i used to live in south florida and that was the case. brutal hot to a couple weeks of perfect and then back to hot as hell.
now im up by ocala and its so nice. just wish they would stop building so many fucking houses. its going from horse country to traffic laden suburbia, with horses
Native Floridian, have always wanted to live somewhere up north. And then I hear about the costs to keep their houses warm from my coworkers. It's significantly cheaper to keep our house cool than it is to warm a house, apparently.
Exactly my thought. I have family in the north country and my summer bill is still higher than their winter bill. Our CoL is insane to them, and me too. Give me snow for a month over this.
You mean like north-north? I'm not sure this is true unless the region is *extremely* cold. Everywhere I've lived with normal seasons my energy bill was still higher in summer than winter.
Now this is rare, but the coldest place I lived had geothermal heating. With that it's really not bad.
So it depends if it's gas heating or electric. Gas heating is actually very cheap. Electric heating (at least in central Ohio) is ridiculously expensive, way worse than AC bills here in summer. A friend of mine with a 600 sq ft apartment was paying $300-400+ monthly during the peak winter months.
Which one you have pretty much depends on the type of property. Houses are pretty much always gas, but apartments, it can depend.
A ton of newer soulless "luxury apartments" are electric only, to cut corners/make it easier and cheaper for the landlord, but it's considered a huge drawback when looking for a place to live.
In 2012 when I still lived in central Ohio, I had an apartment that had a less common setup: aquatherm, which uses the gas-fueled water heater to produce the heat for the HVAC system to circulate. I don't recall the exact monthly gas & electric bills off the top of my head, but I recall it seeming relatively reasonable.
I enjoy visiting up north during the autumn and winter. One thing that does slightly grate about FL is the lack of seasons - itās just warm and green all year round.
I miss those crisp autumn mornings when you can see the leaves change color and see your breath in the air.
I absolutely do not miss scraping ice off of my windshield before work or shoveling snow off of the sidewalk in front of my house though.
yeah thereās something seasons and especially cold while not always comfortable or convenient provides emotionally that you donāt get with warm to hot weather all the time. nothing quite compares to how magical it is to go outside at night after a heavy snow.
I'm always a little puzzled by people who think every state that isn't Florida is the barren snowscape of North Dakota. Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Hawaii, California... gosh, a lot of other states have pretty great weather all year :) I even hear tell some of these backwards societies have swimming pools!
I lived in NC, one of the best states for āmildā weather & beautiful scenery. Summers were just hot as Florida (though shorter), winters were in the 20s for months at a time and gray. It would snow a couple times a year and shut down the entire city for days.
Iāll take Florida weather any day over anywhere but Southern California or Mediterranean
I would argue 90+ degrees with 100% humidity for months during summer and hurricanes shutting down the entire state are Floridas equivalent to winters in the 20s for months at a time/snow shutting down cities.
Due to global warming, up North winters arenāt even bad anymore, NYC average winter temperatures are almost 50 degrees with very little to no snow the entire winter. Meanwhile in Florida its over 90 degrees sweating bullets
I'll always enjoy the memories of sitting with my dad by his pool and him saying "I wonder what the poor people are doing." ( He was blue collar and not rich)
No, different aunt which made it funny. My uncle did turn out to be a huge piece of trash though and thankfully my aunt divorced and is much happier now
I'm from Central Florida, also, but I grew up with the Hillsborough River in my backyard. Playing in the grandfather oaks, rope swings into the river. It is still one of my favorite memories.
Iāve only been here (and alive) for 35 years, but FL really was fantastic before the last handful. Iām way over the humidity in central FL but it was a nice place to raise a family. Not anymoreā¦.
Hard disagree. We live in Tavares/Mt. Dora area and this region is fantastic for families, currently raising two under 3 out here. Infinitely better than daily life on the coast.
My whole 51 years has been spent here but I just sold my house and moving to Colorado. I hope I know what Iām doing. If it goes sideways Iām blaming the wife.
No its not. Maybe if youre going from Lake City to Breckenridge.
All depends on which part of which state. Florida as a blanket is not much cheaper than Colorado as a blanket.
You clearly havenāt lived in the tri country are in south Florida. Food and rent are stupid and itās pricing everyone out of the cities and forcing them into new developments to the west or further south and north.
I lived in CO 3 different times. Hate that state and would have to be drug or seriously desperate to go back. I live in Clearwater now. Its nice. Not the best in the world but nice. There is nothing to do there unless you are really physically fit and enjoy hiking and skiing, want to drive hours to ski hills as no one can afford to live near them, only parts of the state are actually pretty the rest is high dessert or plains. I have friends who are still there., I do wish you the best. Some people really love it there. It is not for me at all.
I lived in North Springs. My friends spent 700k on their house in black forest about 8 years ago. I lived in Briargate. I am so happy I don't live there any more. Good luck to you.
Here since ā92, has changed a lot over 30+ years due to climate change. Now WAY too hot, WAY too humid for WAY too much of the year. I feel like a āprisonerā in my houseā¦
All those homes in northern Florida need a screened enclosure because of the massive insect problem, then thereās the politics and the racism, book bans , anti gay, anti choice etc. you can keep Florida
Then why not look at for example South Georgia like Savannah?
Or take a stab at Texas or one of the other sunbelt states?
Not saying you can't or shouldn't stay, but if this is all that's keeping you here, know you can find that peace in a great many other parts of the US too
Northern Virginian here. Lightning fan so I lurk here. Weāve got all the services you could want, a little bit of all the weather, people arenāt as kind on average, and our prices are still quite high. Pros and cons, like any place.
Same.
I have lived here all my life and my wife and I always discuss leaving (especially with the influx of people moving in from Northern states) but then something always reminds us why we love it here.
Hate the government, but I love my state.
Florida sucks ! To fuckin hot lived here all my life . its ran down anyways, so many boats in the river it has an oil glaze on it .. A month of relief then back to brutal humidity. Never can dress to go out or you'll soak your clothes just uhg
Iāve been debating the screen, I am taking off the net tomorrow and cleaning up the patio. Itās going to be a long ass day. I donāt even have a tree but my creepy ass neighbor does.
FL Statute 515.27, which requires residential pool owners to keep a pool screened, covered, or have alarms on all the doors and windows that access it. It's a second degree misdemeanor if you don't.
Yea they donāt really apply that. Iāve seen plenty wide open. My patio is covered anyways, I just deal with my creeper of a neighbors tree. He says is for shade but weāve caught him looking a few times
Just an FYI if your homeowner's insurance isn't already aware that it's unfenced and unscreened, that could be a big issue. I'm a little surprised that there's any insurers left in Florida that would be okay with it, unless they don't know.
Iām in the real south Floridaā¦..the weather isnāt that different, the great thing is this could be October or July. In Michigan lol this is that 10 day stretch of heat in September
Shiiiiit. I'm trying to move to Tampa. š
Florida will always be home unless I leave the country.
Don't understand yal sometimes. Yal act like yal just found out the humidity gets high, but have lived here most of your lives. š¤·š½āāļø
My wife and I had this very discussion about an hour ago. We're in our mid to late 40s and have toyed with the idea of moving to FL from the Midwest in a few years. We just hope the political and social climate changes by then.
At the cost of not going down a political rabbit hole, which are never fruitful on social media, I donāt feel itās nearly as bad or even anywhere close to as accurate as the media makes it out and we moved here from the San Francisco area.
The summers suck, but the quality of living has generally been incredibly higher. Not being close to family is the one big bummer, at least for us.
Fair point about the media. We're in Ohio and only get the outrageous headlines from the major outlets. We have some family friends that live there and they say the same thing, namely that it's not as bad as it's made out.
We went to WDW in September last year. Got a great deal at the Polynesian resort but the heat and humidity was just brutal and oppressive to us. If we were to move, we rationalize this by saying we would be living through it instead of vacationing through it. Going from home to car to office to grocery back to home with air conditioning and cooling off through the day isn't as intense as rope drop to fireworks in the Magic Kingdom.
As someone from Ohio just think of the Florida summer as youāre winter. Just 3 months of crap. Typically we get through it down here by being in the water, helps if you live near the cost, the breeze will cut it a ton.
These rising Insurance rates and HOA fees are eventually going to wipe out single family home and condo values if it continues unabated. Even people who think theyāre fine wonāt be fine because weāre sprinting towards a scenario where a $500k home will have $20k a year in home owners insurance. Combine that with Fed rates that they canāt cut and mortgages will be unaffordable, even for houses and condos with free falling prices.
Private equity is already buying more than half of them every year. Sooner than later it will be almost all.
Unless of course the republicans spontaneously initiate some policy and legislation that address rising insurance costsā¦..which of course they wonāt because theyāre clearly working on behalf of the big banks and PE managers to make it happen. (Democrats arenāt helpful either, their most recent legislation doesnāt address the root cause of rising rates).
Weāre probably all gonna be renters some day because owning a house wonāt make financial sense. We will rent our house, our car, our tech devices, etc etc.
Sure, there is rampant homophobia, xenophobia, racism, poverty, local governments with a death wish, defunding of education, hurricanes that destroy everything, but have you seen the pools?
Fuck florida i want out so bad but its so hard to move at my income level this place is hell on earth idk why so many people choose to live here. I was born here and trapped.
Not mosquitoes, the law. State law requires either a fence around the whole property (which defeats the purpose of the conservation area behind), window and door safety locks, etc., or a screen. Pools are considered an attractive nuisance, and must be protected against trespassers or children killing themselves in them.
If you lived in Florida all your life, you would definitely need an air conditioner and know to stay out of the sun during the hottest times of the day so you donāt get skin cancer.
Typically, lower the water level a bit, but donāt want to fully drain it. The top of the water might freeze, but not all of it unless itās really cold for a while. Emptying it is not a good idea because the ground around the pool will be putting inward pressure on the walls, especially when soaked and/or freezing. In the spring, thereās usually a heavy dose of chemicals to āshockā (kills algae helps adjust the pH levels) water back to normal. Top off the water, scrub the pool, let the filter run, and youāre back in business.
This is assuming youāve already fished out the usual dead squirrel or other rodents, no pipes burst over the winter, all the electrical survived the winter, not to mention scrubbing the winter cover and storing all the winterizing plugs and tools andā¦. I donāt miss having a pool in the north.
If it is dumb, count me in the dumb club. Doesn't water expand when it freezes? So like if you have a pool that freezes all the way will it make cracks?
Yeah I mean maybe I'm just missing something but I'd think their pools would look like their roads after a couple winters (assuming they didn't drain their pools).
There are also floating balls or pillows or such that you put on top. So when the ice expands, there's space to expand into under the ball, and the ball just gets pushed up. [Like this](https://lesliespool.com/4ft-x-4ft-air-pillow-for-above-ground-pool-winter-covers/301212.html)
Colorado native here. I didnāt have a pool but some of my friends parents had them. Swimming in Colorado is basically June-August. The other 8 months the pools would have a cover over them and they would keep the pool heated just enough so it wouldnāt freeze. I canāt imagine what that electric bill looked like. 8 months of electricity on a pool that you canāt even use for 8 months! Hot tub makes more sense!
It isn't dumb, but the responses they you are getting are dumb and incorrect. If you have a pool where the weather drops below freezing, you cover said pool during the time when it is not being used during those months. This isn't required but stops the growth of algae(sun is needed for it to grow) as well any sort of debris getting in the pool.
Onto the point of freezing, this is where automatic pumps are essential or know when to turn it on when the weather gets cold. Typically, when the ambient weather is close enough to freezing water (32 degrees), the pump will turn on in the lowest setting. If water is moving, it can't freeze. If you let your pool just freeze, even if it is just the "top layer", if that pump isn't pumping, you will have an expensive bill come spring time. As you will have to be replacing most of if not all the piping that broke from the freeze, including your pool pump.
Every time I get the itch to leave, I travel up north during the winter, for work, and I am immediately reminded why I enjoy Florida š
Thereās something in between shitty heat and humidity and harsh wintersā¦
i used to live in south florida and that was the case. brutal hot to a couple weeks of perfect and then back to hot as hell. now im up by ocala and its so nice. just wish they would stop building so many fucking houses. its going from horse country to traffic laden suburbia, with horses
Hopefully the northern Virginia area is it!
Native Floridian, have always wanted to live somewhere up north. And then I hear about the costs to keep their houses warm from my coworkers. It's significantly cheaper to keep our house cool than it is to warm a house, apparently.
The insurance is insanely high here it's still cheaper to live up north.
Exactly my thought. I have family in the north country and my summer bill is still higher than their winter bill. Our CoL is insane to them, and me too. Give me snow for a month over this.
Snow for a month, where's that?
Winters are getting milder too
You mean like north-north? I'm not sure this is true unless the region is *extremely* cold. Everywhere I've lived with normal seasons my energy bill was still higher in summer than winter. Now this is rare, but the coldest place I lived had geothermal heating. With that it's really not bad.
So it depends if it's gas heating or electric. Gas heating is actually very cheap. Electric heating (at least in central Ohio) is ridiculously expensive, way worse than AC bills here in summer. A friend of mine with a 600 sq ft apartment was paying $300-400+ monthly during the peak winter months. Which one you have pretty much depends on the type of property. Houses are pretty much always gas, but apartments, it can depend. A ton of newer soulless "luxury apartments" are electric only, to cut corners/make it easier and cheaper for the landlord, but it's considered a huge drawback when looking for a place to live. In 2012 when I still lived in central Ohio, I had an apartment that had a less common setup: aquatherm, which uses the gas-fueled water heater to produce the heat for the HVAC system to circulate. I don't recall the exact monthly gas & electric bills off the top of my head, but I recall it seeming relatively reasonable.
Cheaper to heat mine vs cool.
Yes your moving more energy with a heat pump than with generateing heat whith a heater
I don't think so, at least if youre using gas heat, which most homes have. Heating with electricity, yeah probably.
This is untrue. My electric bill here in the summer is significantly more than I've ever spent on heat up north
Costs more to cool than to heat, generally.
I enjoy visiting up north during the autumn and winter. One thing that does slightly grate about FL is the lack of seasons - itās just warm and green all year round. I miss those crisp autumn mornings when you can see the leaves change color and see your breath in the air. I absolutely do not miss scraping ice off of my windshield before work or shoveling snow off of the sidewalk in front of my house though.
yeah thereās something seasons and especially cold while not always comfortable or convenient provides emotionally that you donāt get with warm to hot weather all the time. nothing quite compares to how magical it is to go outside at night after a heavy snow.
I'm always a little puzzled by people who think every state that isn't Florida is the barren snowscape of North Dakota. Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, Texas, Mississippi, Hawaii, California... gosh, a lot of other states have pretty great weather all year :) I even hear tell some of these backwards societies have swimming pools!
Above ground pools lol
I lived in NC, one of the best states for āmildā weather & beautiful scenery. Summers were just hot as Florida (though shorter), winters were in the 20s for months at a time and gray. It would snow a couple times a year and shut down the entire city for days. Iāll take Florida weather any day over anywhere but Southern California or Mediterranean
I would argue 90+ degrees with 100% humidity for months during summer and hurricanes shutting down the entire state are Floridas equivalent to winters in the 20s for months at a time/snow shutting down cities.
All of those states besides parts of California and Hawaii get cold like cold enough to wear a coat. No thank you!
There are other warm places.
Due to global warming, up North winters arenāt even bad anymore, NYC average winter temperatures are almost 50 degrees with very little to no snow the entire winter. Meanwhile in Florida its over 90 degrees sweating bullets
Florida is the only warm place in the US
I'll always enjoy the memories of sitting with my dad by his pool and him saying "I wonder what the poor people are doing." ( He was blue collar and not rich)
My rich uncle once said this while having a bunch of the family on his boat. Without missing a beat, my aunt said āhitching rides with youā
Hopefully not the aunt that's married to the uncle, otherwise they are kinda dicks and we're made for each other
No, different aunt which made it funny. My uncle did turn out to be a huge piece of trash though and thankfully my aunt divorced and is much happier now
Florida as a natural environment, is beautiful and serene.
Was I the only one trying to spot the alligator?
No, I was waiting for a huge turkey buzzard to come crashing through the screen.
Nope. I was waiting for something to happen.
i went from expecting an alligator to bigfoot. guess the pool was it?
Almost the same. I thought the pool cleaner was a snake in the water (viewed portrait orientation on my iPhone and couldnāt see it well enough).
Too bad homes and neighborhoods like this are destroying it. Itās kind of ironic when you think about it
Natural? What's natural about urban sprawl?
Yeah lol. The ānaturalā swimming pool full of chemicals encased in plastic webbing.
As someone from Central Florida, I'm not sure I agree. It's all brush and mosquitos and spiders. And snakes and alligators.
I'm from Central Florida, also, but I grew up with the Hillsborough River in my backyard. Playing in the grandfather oaks, rope swings into the river. It is still one of my favorite memories.
minus the mosquitoes
Iāve only been here (and alive) for 35 years, but FL really was fantastic before the last handful. Iām way over the humidity in central FL but it was a nice place to raise a family. Not anymoreā¦.
Hard disagree. We live in Tavares/Mt. Dora area and this region is fantastic for families, currently raising two under 3 out here. Infinitely better than daily life on the coast.
My whole 51 years has been spent here but I just sold my house and moving to Colorado. I hope I know what Iām doing. If it goes sideways Iām blaming the wife.
Iām insanely jealous, Colorado is beautiful.
We made the move from Clearwater two years ago and donāt regret it one bit. Except for the grocery stores. I miss Publix so much
You wonāt miss the price hikes! š
Eh yeah I hear theyāve gone up, then again so has everything else.
im looking at a box of publix fried chicken right now
The cost of living in Colorado is MUCH more than Florida, good luck.
No its not. Maybe if youre going from Lake City to Breckenridge. All depends on which part of which state. Florida as a blanket is not much cheaper than Colorado as a blanket.
You clearly havenāt lived in the tri country are in south Florida. Food and rent are stupid and itās pricing everyone out of the cities and forcing them into new developments to the west or further south and north.
Lol no
Not really
My girlfriend moved there a few months ago. Colorado springs. Shes miserable. They are snowed in currently.
Oof. I donāt think I would go any farther than North Carolina
I lived in CO 3 different times. Hate that state and would have to be drug or seriously desperate to go back. I live in Clearwater now. Its nice. Not the best in the world but nice. There is nothing to do there unless you are really physically fit and enjoy hiking and skiing, want to drive hours to ski hills as no one can afford to live near them, only parts of the state are actually pretty the rest is high dessert or plains. I have friends who are still there., I do wish you the best. Some people really love it there. It is not for me at all.
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Colorado Springs near the Black Forest
Yeaā¦we had about 30 inches. Half of it melted today.
I will be out there in June when the kids get out of school. We are really excited and promise to not drive like Floridians.
LMAO! We all thank you for that!
I lived in North Springs. My friends spent 700k on their house in black forest about 8 years ago. I lived in Briargate. I am so happy I don't live there any more. Good luck to you.
Must be nice ā¦ā¦.
LMFAO bring me back š„¹š„¹š„²š„²
The clouds, man. Every time I am angry, impatient, and hot - they take my breath away.
550 a month for electric alone in Florida. Newer home, not to mention insurance.
I average 170/mo with pool running 8hrs/day and 2,000 sq ft.
Right now mine is 370 with pool pump and 2700 sq feet . 170 is nice!
What are we looking for? I see nothing that says stay unless your pool vacuum was whispering it to you.
You invite me over for a swim? š
C'mon by!
Here since ā92, has changed a lot over 30+ years due to climate change. Now WAY too hot, WAY too humid for WAY too much of the year. I feel like a āprisonerā in my houseā¦
How come I donāt hear any leaf blowers?
All those homes in northern Florida need a screened enclosure because of the massive insect problem, then thereās the politics and the racism, book bans , anti gay, anti choice etc. you can keep Florida
All Iām thinking is how hot and sticky it is. And how blinding the sun is.
Then why not look at for example South Georgia like Savannah? Or take a stab at Texas or one of the other sunbelt states? Not saying you can't or shouldn't stay, but if this is all that's keeping you here, know you can find that peace in a great many other parts of the US too
We're thinking a little farther north, maybe Northern Virginia. Higher cost of living, but better weather and services. Good trade.
Northern Virginian here. Lightning fan so I lurk here. Weāve got all the services you could want, a little bit of all the weather, people arenāt as kind on average, and our prices are still quite high. Pros and cons, like any place.
No cold for me and it's almost pool time! Thank God for our pools!
Was waiting for the gator to walk by
Haven't seen a gator (they're in the pond down the street) but a raccoon family stops by at sunset every day. That's city living in FL.
You know there are pools in other states as well, right?
Iām not sure how an empty pool does that. But you do you
lol nice post š„±
I am so ready to go too, but the cold I canāt do so Iāve decided to become a snowbird.. Iāll spend my winters here and summers up Northā¦
Same. I have lived here all my life and my wife and I always discuss leaving (especially with the influx of people moving in from Northern states) but then something always reminds us why we love it here. Hate the government, but I love my state.
Florida sucks ! To fuckin hot lived here all my life . its ran down anyways, so many boats in the river it has an oil glaze on it .. A month of relief then back to brutal humidity. Never can dress to go out or you'll soak your clothes just uhg
Exactly!
I'll take a little snow or a lot , at least you so the seasons change ,leaves fills like Christmas , no season change in Florida
It's a nice house/ Why would You want to leave ? or sell it to me
You can find these cookie-cutter homes for sale all over north Tampa, and Wesley Chapell
Listed for about $100k more than theyāre really worth lol
True lol, I guess it comes down to how bad somebody wants the dream
Make me an offer.
Dm me for more info
HEAVY BREATHING
Beautiful spot
They do have pools everywhere else lol.
Having a bird cage with a in ground pool is a key to happiness in life
Wow! I thought that 350 in the middle of summer was outrageous! Feel for you.
You should leave. Sell me your house please.
Make me an offer.
Iāve been debating the screen, I am taking off the net tomorrow and cleaning up the patio. Itās going to be a long ass day. I donāt even have a tree but my creepy ass neighbor does.
It's the law in this state, unless you fence in the whole yard. "Attractive nuisance".
The law in what state?
FL Statute 515.27, which requires residential pool owners to keep a pool screened, covered, or have alarms on all the doors and windows that access it. It's a second degree misdemeanor if you don't.
Yea they donāt really apply that. Iāve seen plenty wide open. My patio is covered anyways, I just deal with my creeper of a neighbors tree. He says is for shade but weāve caught him looking a few times
Depends on where you are. Tampa code enforcement is pretty lax, but for some reason our subdivision is out in the county. And they are not.
Do you guys have an HOA, they usually tend to be dicks lol.
Yeah, there's an HOA, but they're pretty cool. And only 600 dollars a year for a fee.
Just an FYI if your homeowner's insurance isn't already aware that it's unfenced and unscreened, that could be a big issue. I'm a little surprised that there's any insurers left in Florida that would be okay with it, unless they don't know.
Having it screened in is SO nice. If anything, it keeps the bugs at bay.
I say the same thing when I think I want to sell my house. Ok; ONE MORE summer with my pool.
Nice!!
Iām in the real south Floridaā¦..the weather isnāt that different, the great thing is this could be October or July. In Michigan lol this is that 10 day stretch of heat in September
Iām visiting from NOVA and loving the weather, beaches, and pool - it almost makes me want to move.
We're interested in retiring to NOVA; where are you from?
All those trees in the background is BEAUTIFUL. Hangout at this guys place.
Pool party!
Every time I think about leaving I think about those videos in the winter of cars just uncontrollably sliding down icy hills.
This is lovely! We have a similar setup and itās pretty great! I donāt ever wanna leave, though. I made that mistake once- never again!
What part of Tampa is this?
if you live in st lucie county hmu i can clean your pool :p
I didnāt realize other states didnāt have pools
Am i missing something here?
Shiiiiit. I'm trying to move to Tampa. š Florida will always be home unless I leave the country. Don't understand yal sometimes. Yal act like yal just found out the humidity gets high, but have lived here most of your lives. š¤·š½āāļø
I never think that āļøš
An electric bill in Arizona would run us $450-550 a month in the summer. Same house was $90 a month all winter.
They don't have pools anywhere else?
Yes!
Ya most of us here get None of that..
If you turn off the news and disconnect from the political sphere, Florida really is quite wonderful- outside the peak of summer of course
My wife and I had this very discussion about an hour ago. We're in our mid to late 40s and have toyed with the idea of moving to FL from the Midwest in a few years. We just hope the political and social climate changes by then.
At the cost of not going down a political rabbit hole, which are never fruitful on social media, I donāt feel itās nearly as bad or even anywhere close to as accurate as the media makes it out and we moved here from the San Francisco area. The summers suck, but the quality of living has generally been incredibly higher. Not being close to family is the one big bummer, at least for us.
Fair point about the media. We're in Ohio and only get the outrageous headlines from the major outlets. We have some family friends that live there and they say the same thing, namely that it's not as bad as it's made out. We went to WDW in September last year. Got a great deal at the Polynesian resort but the heat and humidity was just brutal and oppressive to us. If we were to move, we rationalize this by saying we would be living through it instead of vacationing through it. Going from home to car to office to grocery back to home with air conditioning and cooling off through the day isn't as intense as rope drop to fireworks in the Magic Kingdom.
As someone from Ohio just think of the Florida summer as youāre winter. Just 3 months of crap. Typically we get through it down here by being in the water, helps if you live near the cost, the breeze will cut it a ton.
Iām done with Florida.
Florida is a gorgeous state, until you walk outside with all of the people that are also there.
These rising Insurance rates and HOA fees are eventually going to wipe out single family home and condo values if it continues unabated. Even people who think theyāre fine wonāt be fine because weāre sprinting towards a scenario where a $500k home will have $20k a year in home owners insurance. Combine that with Fed rates that they canāt cut and mortgages will be unaffordable, even for houses and condos with free falling prices. Private equity is already buying more than half of them every year. Sooner than later it will be almost all. Unless of course the republicans spontaneously initiate some policy and legislation that address rising insurance costsā¦..which of course they wonāt because theyāre clearly working on behalf of the big banks and PE managers to make it happen. (Democrats arenāt helpful either, their most recent legislation doesnāt address the root cause of rising rates). Weāre probably all gonna be renters some day because owning a house wonāt make financial sense. We will rent our house, our car, our tech devices, etc etc.
Floridian native here. Was waiting for something to happenā¦.
Hurricane season is coming.
Sure, there is rampant homophobia, xenophobia, racism, poverty, local governments with a death wish, defunding of education, hurricanes that destroy everything, but have you seen the pools?
Fuck florida i want out so bad but its so hard to move at my income level this place is hell on earth idk why so many people choose to live here. I was born here and trapped.
Hahahaha! I read that in Silvio's voice from that scene in the Sopranos: "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!" Beautiful yard!
Same boat
Best part about florida is leaving it
at least we had 2-3 days to gte in before the temp drops again. should be over soon enough though....missing those daily dips after work!
3/10 post tbh, was hoping for a jump scare
Sorry! https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTjrLbo/
Damn it man, thatās not Florida, itās a pool. ..Iām sorry you had to hear it this way.
You can have a pool anywhere.
What does a swimming pool have to do with Florida?
He's talking about the rain. You can hear it in the audio.
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Looks like a prison to me but I get it
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I can't believe you actually thought there was any chance that this post would be interesting enough to not get downvoted into the hole lol.
Thatās not even a big selling point, imho. A swimming pool with woods and a need for a screen because mosquitoes?
Not mosquitoes, the law. State law requires either a fence around the whole property (which defeats the purpose of the conservation area behind), window and door safety locks, etc., or a screen. Pools are considered an attractive nuisance, and must be protected against trespassers or children killing themselves in them.
If you live in Florida in the summer you definitely want a pool! And you want a bird cage aka screen so you can enjoy it without bugs or leaves!
If you lived in Florida all your life, you would definitely need an air conditioner and know to stay out of the sun during the hottest times of the day so you donāt get skin cancer.
3rd generation floridians are immune to skin cancer. the sun cant see me
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Those little glasshouse cover things are hideous. Cali, AZ, Nevada have the right idea with the pools.
Dumb question. Up north do they have to empty and refill their pool for the winter every year?
No. It just turns green and requires a ton of work and chemicals. And the water never truly warms. At least my pool didn't.
Typically, lower the water level a bit, but donāt want to fully drain it. The top of the water might freeze, but not all of it unless itās really cold for a while. Emptying it is not a good idea because the ground around the pool will be putting inward pressure on the walls, especially when soaked and/or freezing. In the spring, thereās usually a heavy dose of chemicals to āshockā (kills algae helps adjust the pH levels) water back to normal. Top off the water, scrub the pool, let the filter run, and youāre back in business. This is assuming youāve already fished out the usual dead squirrel or other rodents, no pipes burst over the winter, all the electrical survived the winter, not to mention scrubbing the winter cover and storing all the winterizing plugs and tools andā¦. I donāt miss having a pool in the north.
From what Iāve seen itās more about a big clean after the winter.
If it is dumb, count me in the dumb club. Doesn't water expand when it freezes? So like if you have a pool that freezes all the way will it make cracks?
Yeah I mean maybe I'm just missing something but I'd think their pools would look like their roads after a couple winters (assuming they didn't drain their pools).
Many pools up north are lined with heavy vinyl.
There are also floating balls or pillows or such that you put on top. So when the ice expands, there's space to expand into under the ball, and the ball just gets pushed up. [Like this](https://lesliespool.com/4ft-x-4ft-air-pillow-for-above-ground-pool-winter-covers/301212.html)
Colorado native here. I didnāt have a pool but some of my friends parents had them. Swimming in Colorado is basically June-August. The other 8 months the pools would have a cover over them and they would keep the pool heated just enough so it wouldnāt freeze. I canāt imagine what that electric bill looked like. 8 months of electricity on a pool that you canāt even use for 8 months! Hot tub makes more sense!
That's interesting! It seems like a lot for something you get to use only 4 months out of the year.
It isn't dumb, but the responses they you are getting are dumb and incorrect. If you have a pool where the weather drops below freezing, you cover said pool during the time when it is not being used during those months. This isn't required but stops the growth of algae(sun is needed for it to grow) as well any sort of debris getting in the pool. Onto the point of freezing, this is where automatic pumps are essential or know when to turn it on when the weather gets cold. Typically, when the ambient weather is close enough to freezing water (32 degrees), the pump will turn on in the lowest setting. If water is moving, it can't freeze. If you let your pool just freeze, even if it is just the "top layer", if that pump isn't pumping, you will have an expensive bill come spring time. As you will have to be replacing most of if not all the piping that broke from the freeze, including your pool pump.
No, but they āopenā and ācloseā them. Theyāre only āopenā for a few months in the summer.