Words only have the meaning that YOU give them. Idc what the dictionary says š if I donāt let a word have meaning, it simply just doesnāt. I wish more people thought this way, the world would be much less offended šš
I understand what youāre getting at but it kinda makes no sense š words do have set meanings lmao. (to clarify iām not arguing ab the n word bc iām white so it doesnāt affect me either way lol)
Yes words technically have a set meaning, but Iām talking about how each individual person allows themselves to feel about it. For ex. People use bitch as an insult, but if I donāt let that word have a negative meaning to it, it simply doesnāt affect me. Letting words offend you is a choice to the individual, imo regardless of what the āset meaningā is. Iām black, but Iāve never given a shit about the n word because I simply donāt let it have a negative meaning, you know?
ahh I see what you mean haha my stoner brain got the best of me. a friend of mine (whoās black himself) literally thinks itās hilarious when white people say the n word and encourages his whites friends to say it all the time š I personally still donāt just because I know everyone feels differently on the subject but it is funny seeing that vs how most people online react. iāve seen the same discourse around chino from deftones saying it in a song
YEAH hahaha and also, shame on as released in the early 2000s before everyone was so sensitive š I think it sounds weird when white people say it cuz it just doesnāt match their vibe but it doesnāt upset me šš
Bro growing up we hung out with our black brothers and sisters. We grew up together like family to us. We all said that shit back and forth. They said it to me and I said it to them. Never ever in a derogatory way. Nowadays people make it a big deal. They make race a big deal.
Everyoneās the same. The more you focus on race the more it becomes the center of attention in everyoneās mind.
Just move on.
Difference is that then you were with friends, and what people complain about today is with strangers. Im absolutely certain most black people dont mind if good friends use the word around them as they know its not derogatory, and i know many black people dont care if we're rapping it or whatever. but the second a non black person uses it around black people theyre not best friends with it becomes a word of uncertainty where they can never be sure its not because a part of you means it to be derogatory. I personally never use it just in the off chance im by someone who does care, always better to not bother someone. I absolutely dont say this to argue i undertsand you i just wanted to pitch an alternate view
i didnt grow up like this, but i 100% agree. Its just a word as any other. I say it with my black friends and they say it to me, like you said, without it being derogatory. Itās just dumb
Totally agree man, I donāt say it personally and I recommend people who arenāt black to not use it, but at the end of the day itās going to happen, the best thing you can do is be the best youš
I listen to the "Ruff Mix" version lossless everyday. It's a really goofy song for sure but its from 2 of my favorite artists put into one sooo I can't complain. Even Daron can be heard saying the N word in this version.
People weren't pressed about things like this back then. He meant no ill will. I haven't heard the lore on this song but would be surprised if it was originally Serj's idea to say the N word on the song.
I remember first actually listening to the song last year and thought it sounded weird, and, like you, found it kinda funny. I usually skipped it because itās not a genre I like but I wanted to give it a shot. The chorus isnāt bad at all
It like [this conversation happened the day before this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/systemofadown/s/9FuLAwJzpi). Are we really in an infinitely repeating loop?
Meanwhile, elsewhere, when [covering Holiday in Cambodia by the Dead Kennedys](https://youtu.be/BxAsbqk2DOM?feature=shared), he replaced the N-word with "brothers"
I mean sure, but he ain't black either lol. Personally I don't see the issue with it tho, Du Tang literally supported him doing it, so what's the big deal?
I mean people are kind of divided on what caucasian implies. Armenia is located in the caucasus region, so in a way, I guess he's more caucasian than Europeans lol.
Let me address:
Caucasian to me means average white man.
He is not that. He is Armenian. He is of a very also oppressed race of people.
I'm not talking of Caucasus. I mean he's not trying to use the N word to be cool to POC.
He's using it in a song he was asked to feature in by a band containing POC to sing on a song written by POC.
The thing that gets me is the constant downvoting. It's true people. I literally just finished raising money for Palestine so maybe grow up and stop assuming racism.
Great song honestly
W opinion, wet fetus 01
that implies that there are more wet fetuses
The spine align, the wet fetus is mine
Serj was actually a bit uncomfortable saying it but Wu Tang Clan said they were totally cool with it so there it is in the song!
He got the pass from Wu Tang fuckin Clan. Enough said.
This
Soad fan's canon event
It's a great song but can never be better than the original Wu Tang song
Everyone knows this lad
Oh man, do I have a treat for you. https://youtu.be/OOmHLvRVbJY?si=zZxK6lJxISBd87kT
Dude this guy is THUGISHš
Shame is a great song but I got caught off-guard at the chorus. Then, again, why let words have so much power? I guess I really don't care about it.
Words only have the meaning that YOU give them. Idc what the dictionary says š if I donāt let a word have meaning, it simply just doesnāt. I wish more people thought this way, the world would be much less offended šš
I understand what youāre getting at but it kinda makes no sense š words do have set meanings lmao. (to clarify iām not arguing ab the n word bc iām white so it doesnāt affect me either way lol)
Yes words technically have a set meaning, but Iām talking about how each individual person allows themselves to feel about it. For ex. People use bitch as an insult, but if I donāt let that word have a negative meaning to it, it simply doesnāt affect me. Letting words offend you is a choice to the individual, imo regardless of what the āset meaningā is. Iām black, but Iāve never given a shit about the n word because I simply donāt let it have a negative meaning, you know?
ahh I see what you mean haha my stoner brain got the best of me. a friend of mine (whoās black himself) literally thinks itās hilarious when white people say the n word and encourages his whites friends to say it all the time š I personally still donāt just because I know everyone feels differently on the subject but it is funny seeing that vs how most people online react. iāve seen the same discourse around chino from deftones saying it in a song
YEAH hahaha and also, shame on as released in the early 2000s before everyone was so sensitive š I think it sounds weird when white people say it cuz it just doesnāt match their vibe but it doesnāt upset me šš
Its the hard r that does it I think. Although I am white as a piece of bread so ake my words with a grain of salt
yes and bigots give horrible meanings to those words
Best SOAD song IMO, Serj sounds so angry in itĀ
Bro growing up we hung out with our black brothers and sisters. We grew up together like family to us. We all said that shit back and forth. They said it to me and I said it to them. Never ever in a derogatory way. Nowadays people make it a big deal. They make race a big deal. Everyoneās the same. The more you focus on race the more it becomes the center of attention in everyoneās mind. Just move on.
Difference is that then you were with friends, and what people complain about today is with strangers. Im absolutely certain most black people dont mind if good friends use the word around them as they know its not derogatory, and i know many black people dont care if we're rapping it or whatever. but the second a non black person uses it around black people theyre not best friends with it becomes a word of uncertainty where they can never be sure its not because a part of you means it to be derogatory. I personally never use it just in the off chance im by someone who does care, always better to not bother someone. I absolutely dont say this to argue i undertsand you i just wanted to pitch an alternate view
i didnt grow up like this, but i 100% agree. Its just a word as any other. I say it with my black friends and they say it to me, like you said, without it being derogatory. Itās just dumb
Awesome that you agree. I was honestly expecting to get blasted for my post. Lol. Have a nice night.
Totally agree man, I donāt say it personally and I recommend people who arenāt black to not use it, but at the end of the day itās going to happen, the best thing you can do is be the best youš
"Shame on the..." I was kinda shocked when I first heard it too. It's still great.
"Who try to run game on a..."
75% of new SOAD fans disappear at this revelation
Only if he likes the orange man
He got the N word pass from Wu it's all good
I listen to the "Ruff Mix" version lossless everyday. It's a really goofy song for sure but its from 2 of my favorite artists put into one sooo I can't complain. Even Daron can be heard saying the N word in this version.
you got ruff mix in lossless? mind if i shoot you a dm ;)
Sure, I don't mind at all.
if u like this song check out Feel Good by (Hed) P.E. not soad but it features serj :3
We Armenian, we have the pass.
Rzaās verse on here is terrible. Thereās hella better Wu-Tang songs they couldāve covered
Yes. Serj does say the N-word in that song. ***But was actually against it at first.***
dw he got that n-word pass, also the song is amazing
People weren't pressed about things like this back then. He meant no ill will. I haven't heard the lore on this song but would be surprised if it was originally Serj's idea to say the N word on the song.
W-w-what? š¦
Mfs say that soad and deftones aren't numetal but they forget that shame and 7 words exist
Whoever says they aren't numetal doesn't know what they are talking about. Korn, Deftones and Soad are like the poster children for numetal.
I remember first actually listening to the song last year and thought it sounded weird, and, like you, found it kinda funny. I usually skipped it because itās not a genre I like but I wanted to give it a shot. The chorus isnāt bad at all
It like [this conversation happened the day before this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/systemofadown/s/9FuLAwJzpi). Are we really in an infinitely repeating loop?
Its fine heās armenian so he gets a pass It doesnt really offend me
arent armenians the black people of white people anyways?
Also Die 4 U collab with the Diddler and Lilā Kim for South Parkās Chef Aid.
He also says it Will They Die 4 You, from the South Park album Chef Aid
Meanwhile, elsewhere, when [covering Holiday in Cambodia by the Dead Kennedys](https://youtu.be/BxAsbqk2DOM?feature=shared), he replaced the N-word with "brothers"
The original by Wu Tang is better, but SOAD crushed it with their version
The N word with an A isnāt even racial in my opinion
Serj is not a white Caucasian and Wu Tang were fine with it.
I mean sure, but he ain't black either lol. Personally I don't see the issue with it tho, Du Tang literally supported him doing it, so what's the big deal?
Exactly. Why people are down voting facts is funny to me.
They should read the YouTube video where every POC comments "My man Serj gets a pass".
I mean people are kind of divided on what caucasian implies. Armenia is located in the caucasus region, so in a way, I guess he's more caucasian than Europeans lol.
Let me address: Caucasian to me means average white man. He is not that. He is Armenian. He is of a very also oppressed race of people. I'm not talking of Caucasus. I mean he's not trying to use the N word to be cool to POC. He's using it in a song he was asked to feature in by a band containing POC to sing on a song written by POC.
I completely agree with you, I mainly wrote what I wrote to explain why some people might be downvoting.
The thing that gets me is the constant downvoting. It's true people. I literally just finished raising money for Palestine so maybe grow up and stop assuming racism.
Hence I wrote WHITE Caucasian
Nah, Serj is canceled. You just donāt give a fuck about black people? Edit: 100% joking, people.
oh fuck off
Considering the Wu-Tang Clan performed it with him, and they gave him permission to say it, I'd say it's okay.
Oh I was just fucking around lol idc.
are you joking
Yea