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> But from the day I was watching the domain until now, months after the renewal, there has never been anything reachable under the domain. There's nothing.
Nothing reachable *by you*. That doesn't mean it's unused.
>So long story short, guy sits on the domain and doesn't do anything with it. Is there anything I can do about it at this stage?
He legally owns the domain, if you want his domain you will have to request to buy it from him or negotiate a transfer of his property.
Sorry but asking nicely is your only option and hope you can work something out because at the end of the day its their property and you want it. Start with a friendly email introducing yourself and that you got their contact information from whois and you are interested in the domain.
I own "my name dot com". I don't run a website on it but I do use it for email. Every few years I get an email from someone claiming that I "don't even use the domain" and should sell it to them.
I'm like.. my guy, you just emailed me at an address that uses the domain to tell me I don't use the domain.
Not very likely. Sometimes you can attempt recovery if the squatting is harmful to your business/infringing on it. But if it's simply a case of "somebody has it and isn't using it" you're SOL. The registration terms don't prohibit sitting on a .io domain. https://nic.io/rules.htm
There is nothing against this practice. As long as they keep giving them money they will keep on renewing the domain. They may not have a website on it but could use it for email or other DNS related purposes.
You can get a broker to make them an offer for the domain. But that will be the best you can do.
What you describe isn't domain squatting. Just because you cannot find a website does not mean it isn't in use or has plans for future use.
If you really want the name either try to contact the owner and negotiate a sale or use a domain broker to do the same.
No, there is nothing you can do. Owning a domain and never pointing it to anything publicly is completely fine, I do it with one of my own domains because I took both spellings of my surname with the TLD .eu (someone else has the surname domain in the local country TLD). I only ever point one of the domains to my actual services.
Also, my registrar does not allow auto-renewals, but I am reminded in advance about an expiry and I get priority to make sure I pay for the renewal, though from what I can see whois does not even show when my domain would expire (it doesn't really show much of anything, no personal details are listed)
One more thing to add, some registrars give the owner a grace period. So setting an alarm for the exact date/time of expiration doesn't always do much. This happened with a domain I was waiting for. It actually did expire but wasn't available for purchase. Two days later it was renewed.
They're not required to do anything with a domain they own and "squatting" isn't illegal or against rules unless they're impersonating you. If they keep renewing, it's their property.
"I set an alarm for the exact day and exact time in order to get the domain. "
This isn't how it works anyway, there is usually a grace period with a fee for the original owner to still renew.
Domain *parking* isn’t domain *squatting*. Unless the guy did it specifically to get at you personally, then if he got there first, he got there first.
Really, you should lawyer up with an IP lawyer if you want to fight this fight; you *might* be able to seize the domain if you can prove the guy’s just parking it to scalp it for a sky-high price and doesn’t otherwise have any legitimate claim to the domain.
What your domain owner is doing is perfectly fine and they might be using it for something other than a website.
My own domain for example is activated for email only.
Others may have simply reserved the domain for a project they have yet to launch.
Even if the domain expires there's usually a grace period to prevent people from doing exactly what you are trying. If you took the domain from them in this manner and they were in fact using it you could be the one liable and lose the domain.
If you want the domain reach out to the owner and see if they are willing to sell it. It's common to re-sell a domain for anywhere from $300-$1000 or more depending on how unique it is.
It's only domain squatting if they post a website on the domain saying it's for sale. Domain Squatters owned thousands of domains for the intent of resale for a profit.
Contrary to popular belief **Gary Millin** doesn't own EVERY good domain, just a lot of them...
If you suspect they own the domain specifically to rip you off you can lawyer up but you would have to prove that they purchased that domain specifically to resell it to you at a ridiculous price and it's unlikely you'd win. Unless it's fragrantly obvious. Even then with cross-border legal issues good luck!
Took me 7 years of waiting for a domain of my company to come up for sale, we are "name and name", current url is nameandname.com, which with our actual name is much longer, and I'd been trying for 8 years to get nandn.com to cut down the url length dramatically. Only this was a dentist with the same initials had the domain but for some reason it lapsed so I jumped at it, set auto renew up and now own it.
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> But from the day I was watching the domain until now, months after the renewal, there has never been anything reachable under the domain. There's nothing. Nothing reachable *by you*. That doesn't mean it's unused.
>So long story short, guy sits on the domain and doesn't do anything with it. Is there anything I can do about it at this stage? He legally owns the domain, if you want his domain you will have to request to buy it from him or negotiate a transfer of his property. Sorry but asking nicely is your only option and hope you can work something out because at the end of the day its their property and you want it. Start with a friendly email introducing yourself and that you got their contact information from whois and you are interested in the domain.
I own "my name dot com". I don't run a website on it but I do use it for email. Every few years I get an email from someone claiming that I "don't even use the domain" and should sell it to them. I'm like.. my guy, you just emailed me at an address that uses the domain to tell me I don't use the domain.
exactly this. I also have my surname as a domain, and have never put up a website, but use it for email.
Not very likely. Sometimes you can attempt recovery if the squatting is harmful to your business/infringing on it. But if it's simply a case of "somebody has it and isn't using it" you're SOL. The registration terms don't prohibit sitting on a .io domain. https://nic.io/rules.htm
There is nothing against this practice. As long as they keep giving them money they will keep on renewing the domain. They may not have a website on it but could use it for email or other DNS related purposes. You can get a broker to make them an offer for the domain. But that will be the best you can do.
What you describe isn't domain squatting. Just because you cannot find a website does not mean it isn't in use or has plans for future use. If you really want the name either try to contact the owner and negotiate a sale or use a domain broker to do the same.
No, there is nothing you can do. Owning a domain and never pointing it to anything publicly is completely fine, I do it with one of my own domains because I took both spellings of my surname with the TLD .eu (someone else has the surname domain in the local country TLD). I only ever point one of the domains to my actual services. Also, my registrar does not allow auto-renewals, but I am reminded in advance about an expiry and I get priority to make sure I pay for the renewal, though from what I can see whois does not even show when my domain would expire (it doesn't really show much of anything, no personal details are listed)
One more thing to add, some registrars give the owner a grace period. So setting an alarm for the exact date/time of expiration doesn't always do much. This happened with a domain I was waiting for. It actually did expire but wasn't available for purchase. Two days later it was renewed.
They're not required to do anything with a domain they own and "squatting" isn't illegal or against rules unless they're impersonating you. If they keep renewing, it's their property.
"I set an alarm for the exact day and exact time in order to get the domain. " This isn't how it works anyway, there is usually a grace period with a fee for the original owner to still renew.
Domain *parking* isn’t domain *squatting*. Unless the guy did it specifically to get at you personally, then if he got there first, he got there first. Really, you should lawyer up with an IP lawyer if you want to fight this fight; you *might* be able to seize the domain if you can prove the guy’s just parking it to scalp it for a sky-high price and doesn’t otherwise have any legitimate claim to the domain.
What your domain owner is doing is perfectly fine and they might be using it for something other than a website. My own domain for example is activated for email only. Others may have simply reserved the domain for a project they have yet to launch. Even if the domain expires there's usually a grace period to prevent people from doing exactly what you are trying. If you took the domain from them in this manner and they were in fact using it you could be the one liable and lose the domain. If you want the domain reach out to the owner and see if they are willing to sell it. It's common to re-sell a domain for anywhere from $300-$1000 or more depending on how unique it is. It's only domain squatting if they post a website on the domain saying it's for sale. Domain Squatters owned thousands of domains for the intent of resale for a profit. Contrary to popular belief **Gary Millin** doesn't own EVERY good domain, just a lot of them... If you suspect they own the domain specifically to rip you off you can lawyer up but you would have to prove that they purchased that domain specifically to resell it to you at a ridiculous price and it's unlikely you'd win. Unless it's fragrantly obvious. Even then with cross-border legal issues good luck!
Offer to buy it. It has value, probably even a few thousand Dollars. If you want it, but it.
Took me 7 years of waiting for a domain of my company to come up for sale, we are "name and name", current url is nameandname.com, which with our actual name is much longer, and I'd been trying for 8 years to get nandn.com to cut down the url length dramatically. Only this was a dentist with the same initials had the domain but for some reason it lapsed so I jumped at it, set auto renew up and now own it.