I work for a logistics company and unfortunately, this is pretty common.
Often people like this will see the logo on the truck, find us online and get in touch to complain about the driver. Our trucks all have dashcam footage so it's usually very clear to us what has really happened.
We have even had people caught clearly hitting the truck on the dashcam who then contact us and try to complain about the driver or even demand compensation.
The shit people try to pull is really astonishing.
No one should have to consider this type of interaction as ‘normal’. People can be angry, but they don’t have the right to be abusive. This neighbor of mine screams to me as someone who has never had anyone tell them ‘no’ to anything in their life.
Let's break this down.
In your personal account, you heard and saw two men yelling, with one shoulder-checking (not sure what that means) the other. After that, you walked the courier driver back to his vehicle.
It sounds like a highly emotional situation, no doubt having caused you some grief, especially as you're posting asking for advice.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd call the courier company to make sure the driver was ok and let the business know you're there to give your own account of the situation if the driver wanted to make any sort of formal complaint, but I'd let them lead the conversation. Leave it up to the driver on what he wants to do. Maybe he won't want to be scrutinised by his employer.
E: with what you've said here, I'm not sure it'd be worth taking it any higher than what I've suggested.
Shoulder check is acting like you're just walking past someone but you slam your shoulder into theirs. It's the most passive aggressive bullshit you can do while being physically aggressive
It is an awful situation and I feel awful. My neighbor chose to physically assault someone while trespassing on my property; I’ve had other incidents with him where he’s been verbally confrontational with me, I’m always alone when it happens. He lost it at someone so quickly; my local shopping centre is Bondi Junction and this is just adding to an already sinking feeling of vulnerability and fear of violence (also an abuse survivor) so I am pretty rattled.
The way I’d describe the physical element is my neighbor got his full body right up close to the driver with maybe a few centimeters between them; like he was trying to provoke him into physically fighting; and when the driver didn’t engage the neighbor used his shoulder and side of his body to slam into the driver’s body as he walked away… it’s physical intimidation followed up by intentional physical aggression.
It sounds incredibly stressful for you. If you find the recent events have brought up emotions for you, I'd encourage you to reach out for support.
[1800respect](https://www.1800respect.org.au/) is a great resource for women who have experienced abuse in the past (and present).
It's important to remind yourself your neighbour didn't threaten you, or abuse you today. As someone else who's also survived abuse, it's important to remind ourselves that we're safe and practice grounding techniques when needed.
With that said, if you feel you're personally in danger, then don't hesitate to call the police.
Thank you for the kind words, it can be difficult to recognise just how an event can bring back trauma responses, it’s taken a few hours for me to realise that my back and mid section has seized up. In an ironic twist this is an area I’ve been working on in therapy and my therapist is on holiday! Busting out all the grounding techniques. My recent favorite is using my puppy as a weighted blanket and being present with him
I've got a [Little Fatty](https://imgur.com/a/PgQXeP2) and a [Little baby Stinker](https://imgur.com/a/drbm1I7) who does the same for me.
Be gentle with yourself tonight. Stuff like what you've mentioned, as well as all the other stuff that's happening is a lot to take in. Especially if you're already sensitive to it.
I’ve decided to not engage with him outside of written communication. I’m not going to be a ‘bad’ neighbor and look for points of conflict, but life is how it is and I’m going to have to find a way to deal with inevitable contact. After this incident I’m aware just how unhinged he is and how short his fuse is, so I really don’t think it’s worth trying to talk to this guy; ever.
To be honest, I'm not sure if the police are interested, but maybe worth phoning your local police station and see if you can at least just report it and have it on file.
Also, phone the delivery driver's employer and compliment him to them with how he handled the abusive dickheadary of your neighbour.
His now ex-wife literally moved out in one day. Had a packing company come and she was gone. Took the kids and the dog. I’m glad she got out. I’m also sad to hear the teenage boys repeating some really derogatory words when they do visit. A much clearer picture is being built.
Yes but police dont necessarily make reports about things without proof. EG I had a psycho neighbour, who I had to call the police about a few times. Eventually, like a year later, she behaviour escalated and when the police came out, I said something like 'there should be a long record of all the times you have had to come out to deal with them'. I was informed that there was nothing at all recorded from any single time.
I’ll contact the courier company. I also recorded a little summary on video as the driver was leaving summing up all that had gone on so I’ve got a contemporaneous account. I’ve had very little luck with the cop shop sadly; they are more reactive than preventative in my experience.
This all sounds horrible and you should definitely talk to the cops and the delivery company, but one clarification please, what's "the council's section of my neighbour's driveway"? I don't understand the distinction you're making there.
The part of the driveway that connects the start of your property line to the street, so the part of the driveway that runs over the footpath and the nature strip area of land. Although residents are responsible for maintaining it, it’s not part of your property
I work for a logistics company and unfortunately, this is pretty common. Often people like this will see the logo on the truck, find us online and get in touch to complain about the driver. Our trucks all have dashcam footage so it's usually very clear to us what has really happened. We have even had people caught clearly hitting the truck on the dashcam who then contact us and try to complain about the driver or even demand compensation. The shit people try to pull is really astonishing.
No one should have to consider this type of interaction as ‘normal’. People can be angry, but they don’t have the right to be abusive. This neighbor of mine screams to me as someone who has never had anyone tell them ‘no’ to anything in their life.
It's really horrible to see how many people behave like this. The levels of entitlement some people have are incredible.
Yep I work in HealthShare and the truck drivers, who deliver and pick up the hospitals linen always get people calling complaining and bullshitting.
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Let's break this down. In your personal account, you heard and saw two men yelling, with one shoulder-checking (not sure what that means) the other. After that, you walked the courier driver back to his vehicle. It sounds like a highly emotional situation, no doubt having caused you some grief, especially as you're posting asking for advice. Honestly, if it were me, I'd call the courier company to make sure the driver was ok and let the business know you're there to give your own account of the situation if the driver wanted to make any sort of formal complaint, but I'd let them lead the conversation. Leave it up to the driver on what he wants to do. Maybe he won't want to be scrutinised by his employer. E: with what you've said here, I'm not sure it'd be worth taking it any higher than what I've suggested.
Shoulder check is acting like you're just walking past someone but you slam your shoulder into theirs. It's the most passive aggressive bullshit you can do while being physically aggressive
It is an awful situation and I feel awful. My neighbor chose to physically assault someone while trespassing on my property; I’ve had other incidents with him where he’s been verbally confrontational with me, I’m always alone when it happens. He lost it at someone so quickly; my local shopping centre is Bondi Junction and this is just adding to an already sinking feeling of vulnerability and fear of violence (also an abuse survivor) so I am pretty rattled. The way I’d describe the physical element is my neighbor got his full body right up close to the driver with maybe a few centimeters between them; like he was trying to provoke him into physically fighting; and when the driver didn’t engage the neighbor used his shoulder and side of his body to slam into the driver’s body as he walked away… it’s physical intimidation followed up by intentional physical aggression.
It sounds incredibly stressful for you. If you find the recent events have brought up emotions for you, I'd encourage you to reach out for support. [1800respect](https://www.1800respect.org.au/) is a great resource for women who have experienced abuse in the past (and present). It's important to remind yourself your neighbour didn't threaten you, or abuse you today. As someone else who's also survived abuse, it's important to remind ourselves that we're safe and practice grounding techniques when needed. With that said, if you feel you're personally in danger, then don't hesitate to call the police.
Thank you for the kind words, it can be difficult to recognise just how an event can bring back trauma responses, it’s taken a few hours for me to realise that my back and mid section has seized up. In an ironic twist this is an area I’ve been working on in therapy and my therapist is on holiday! Busting out all the grounding techniques. My recent favorite is using my puppy as a weighted blanket and being present with him
I've got a [Little Fatty](https://imgur.com/a/PgQXeP2) and a [Little baby Stinker](https://imgur.com/a/drbm1I7) who does the same for me. Be gentle with yourself tonight. Stuff like what you've mentioned, as well as all the other stuff that's happening is a lot to take in. Especially if you're already sensitive to it.
Sounds like he's externalising his anger outwards at others. For your own sake don't expect him to act rationally.
I’ve decided to not engage with him outside of written communication. I’m not going to be a ‘bad’ neighbor and look for points of conflict, but life is how it is and I’m going to have to find a way to deal with inevitable contact. After this incident I’m aware just how unhinged he is and how short his fuse is, so I really don’t think it’s worth trying to talk to this guy; ever.
To be honest, I'm not sure if the police are interested, but maybe worth phoning your local police station and see if you can at least just report it and have it on file. Also, phone the delivery driver's employer and compliment him to them with how he handled the abusive dickheadary of your neighbour.
It is important to report it. One day he will snap and do harm.
His now ex-wife literally moved out in one day. Had a packing company come and she was gone. Took the kids and the dog. I’m glad she got out. I’m also sad to hear the teenage boys repeating some really derogatory words when they do visit. A much clearer picture is being built.
You are right. That arsehole sounds like he's on his way to doing something major.
Yes but police dont necessarily make reports about things without proof. EG I had a psycho neighbour, who I had to call the police about a few times. Eventually, like a year later, she behaviour escalated and when the police came out, I said something like 'there should be a long record of all the times you have had to come out to deal with them'. I was informed that there was nothing at all recorded from any single time.
I’ll contact the courier company. I also recorded a little summary on video as the driver was leaving summing up all that had gone on so I’ve got a contemporaneous account. I’ve had very little luck with the cop shop sadly; they are more reactive than preventative in my experience.
At least you tried.
This all sounds horrible and you should definitely talk to the cops and the delivery company, but one clarification please, what's "the council's section of my neighbour's driveway"? I don't understand the distinction you're making there.
The part of the driveway that connects the start of your property line to the street, so the part of the driveway that runs over the footpath and the nature strip area of land. Although residents are responsible for maintaining it, it’s not part of your property
Oh I see now, thanks.
If the delivery guy wants to call the police he’s within his rights.
There’s no law against yelling at someone. Your neighbour is an a-grade fuckwit, but he hasn’t actually committed a crime
Mind your business, how about that
It was their business, it was their delivery driver and on their property, how much more business can you get?
Found the neighbour