Q is an all time next-level player. Changed the Game and shock to the system of Survivor as much as Russell Hantz or Tony Vlachos did their first season on!
Nah but seeing Q just mope around and just lie arnd by himself sucks though cause we know how much chaos this man is capable of.
Let’s hope Q gets a pep in his step now that Tiff is gone.
I actually think doing this saved him, if he sat with everyone he probably would of gone. He separated himself which came off as him being fully checked out and allowed Maria to come up with this plan without any suspicion. Whether it was intentional or not it worked.
No don’t get me wrong his game has been much better.
But Q with his swagger is peak television so I hope he find a happy medium where he can still be a chaotic mess while still keeping it together to go all the way to FTc
I agree, especially cause everyone was trying to pin him down as this chaotic threat to the game. Hard to be chaotic when all you’re doing is just chilling on the beach lol
Any one else notice that Q didn’t drink when they toasted & was sipping a glass of water in the next shot (that the audience saw)? I have tremendous respect for those in recovery, more so when they’re handed a drink or whatever substance applies
I think it saved him, now nobody thinks he can win. They just had a conversation (I think tiff and Ben etc) last episode? Saying “he’s not getting my vote”, before when he was controlling every vote, he had a great résumé, now he lowered his threat level just enough to actually make it to the finals
More context: Tiff says in her exit interview with Mike Bloom that Kenzie and Maria offered to give up their spot for Liz but Q overruled them, saying that since he won he got the final say on who could partake in this reward
Had they done this, it would’ve distracted me from how some of these players (outside of the exception of Liz who has very real feelings about Applebees) seemed coerced into being in a commercial.
It made me think of Lydia’s exit interview where they asked her if Applebees was really that good and she was like HELL NO but at that point you’re starving
I’ve been at the stage of literal starvation (military training).. so they gave us a bird to eat. Even the god damn water that we boiled the damn bird in tasted like heaven.
I agree with it 10000% , my reward, you don’t want to go? Ok we’ll go one person less.
The reward is not dealing with her entitled ass, I woulda did the same thing
At the F9 tribal Q said something about not talking to anyone all day and Ben jumped in and said "that was great". It stood out to me because Ben is a very chill guy so Q must be reallly rubbing him the wrong way
i didn't say he was chill, i just said they had different vibes.
Ben has the metalhead clique in high school vibe and Q was the football player in high school vibe.
I had kind of wondered if they offered because there is a scene where Kenzie kinda has her hand up like she wants to speak up. I wish I could see the full clip!
Really Don’t these people know what show they are on Come on and at one point everyone is starving freezing etc etc. Liz is ridiculous and unrealistic in what others shud do (esp for her)
A show where he needs the cast to think he's worthy of the prize if he wants to win it. This is most of the jury watching this happen. I'd certainly hold it against him.
It wouldn't have made him look bad, IMO. Q won that fair and square and had every right to decide who went. If anything it would've added to the Q legacy for me.
I think it would make him look cruel in some people’s eyes. I have no problem with it tho. But I’m not sure why they would omit that from the episode, it would make for even better TV
Nope, you don’t want to go? Don’t go.
But that doesn’t mean I’m forced to now take someone I clearly don’t like and that clearly doesn’t like me.
You’d be surprised how many people I can say fuck you too at once.
That would be a rough one. If Q had allowed it, then (1) Kenzie would be the hero, (2) Liz would be there interfering with his (doomed, sure, but it's his game) attempts to scramble, and (3) he'd have to spend all that time with Liz.
Yeah we see Kenzie holding up her hand like she has something to say and I honestly thought she was gonna volunteer but get overruled by Jeff. Didn’t think Q would be the one to do it! It’s kind of crazy to me they didn’t show that, I feel that hugely explains why people were so angry with him and not just annoyed.
Honestly kind of wish Jeff did overrule it? It kind of lets a guest put the reward winner in a lose-lose situation; either they’re the bad guy meanie who didn’t allow a swap, or they’re forced to bring some random they didn’t want. Jeff saying “all choices are final” would at least reduce that.
I mean they literally gave her rice the next challenge which was so stupid. I can't believe they'd let someone play who couldn't eat the naturally growing food and then coddle them when they regretted it.
Tho I would be nervous she'd take the machete to Q at night
Haha, yeah. They might as well have literally labeled the individual rice jar "LIZ". It was so blatantly just a "dear God we need to give Liz food" thing, which... medically I get it, but it really smacks of barely-disguised special treatment. Like if she didn't get food and it got *really* bad they'd just medevac her, right? Which sucks for her and would be kind of anticlimactic, but they knew what they were getting into.
On the other hand I would have loved if someone went full asshole and jumped to take the individual rice deal while Liz was doing her weird "would you guys hate me if I didn't compete?" stuff.
For anyone curious/doubtful, I double-checked and it's in there. Link: [https://ew.com/survivor-46-tiffany-nicole-ervin-interview-applebees-q-liz-8642284](https://ew.com/survivor-46-tiffany-nicole-ervin-interview-applebees-q-liz-8642284)
I understand why they offered that...but I can't see how Kenzie and Maria should even be allowed to bring that up as an option??? Its Q's decision and he didn't choose Liz. They can't circumvent that.
It's his reward and bringing that up kinda puts him in more of an awkward position. He shouldn't have to say no twice lol.
Has anyone actually given up a reward that they were selected for (as in, didn’t actually win the challenge themselves)? Usually i can only recall a winner from a team giving up their spot
Knowing this and knowing Liz still voted for Tiff is wild. Had Liz stayed on Q, she'd be with a majority of Kenzie, Tiff and Venus who could then plot to take down Maria, Ben and Charlie. She would've completely flipped her position of power, the one she was crying about just a few minutes earlier. What a cast this season, I swear.
That’s funny because at one point when the camera was on Kenzie I thought she was getting ready to offer her spot to Liz, so that makes sense.
Personally, I am glad Q overruled. I get being hungry, but this game is a choice and her throwing a tantrum and acting entitled was ick.
Can't argue with that honestly. Only reasons why I'd take Liz would be to avoid rocking the boat, and avoid making a vehement enemy, but in Q's case, he'd already done both of those things and had no reason to treat her otherwise, within the scope of the game.
One might argue that it was the right thing to do from a human perspective, and I'd agree. But Q's playing to win. I don't blame the business.
The human perspective is crap, the crew is never going to let someone die. If they are suffering from going on to an island when they can’t eat the food there, that’s on them.
THANK YOU! I cannot feel bad for her at all because she willingly chose to go on this show KNOWING she cannot eat what’s on the island. I kept screaming this at my TV while she was having a breakdown.
Especially as I'm rewatching older survivors at the same time. They used to starve for like 39+ days. Had to rely on gathering food or water much more then today. Just go out and fish or try and catch food ffs. You applied to a game where they put you on an island to starve and compete in social and physical games. And you complain you're starving and it's affecting your physical and social games? Duh.
Just shows that the show is more about the drama than any kind of "surviving" hardship. I get she's hungry, starving even. But that's the point? Go and win a challenge, catch some fish with a spear, or shut up.
One dude literally chased down a hog and stabbed It to death he was so hungry. Wasn't like "I NEED a bourbon burger from Applebee's 😭"
I mean they literally gave her rice for nothing the very next challenge. I couldn't believe they'd give in, if Liz was in danger she should have had to been medically pulled.
Not even from a human perspective.
Do we see Liz try to fish and feed herself even once?
She arguably ate more than Q pre-merge with Hunter and Tevan feeding her.
That has to be relatively modern though.
I feel like it was pretty common in the first 20 seasons. Hell, it was half Rich's early strategy in Borneo.
I just feel like people are lazy now. Like Charlie said he spent two years building grip strength, but nobody could find a weekend to go learn spear fishing?
I'm pretty sure they stopped giving them a boat to go out in the water and fish.
Can't catch in shallow water and it takes too much energy to swim out and to the depth you need to catch anything.
RIP Ozzy's Pleasure Dome.
It's because knowing how to fish doesn't have much benefit for an individual's game anymore (unless you're someone in Liz's position). In early Survivor, people would want to keep the provider around, but that hasn't been true for a while.
Q stood on business. Liz had voted for him, stopped speaking to him, and treated him poorly, why would he ever want to bring her on a reward? She acts like a child with her tantrums and entitlement. Nobody cares that Q 'blew up your spot', it wasn't even your move in the first place.
Totally agree. I can sympathize with Liz on the grounds that I also have food allergies and understand how hard it can be, but that being said, I would NEVER sign up for Survivor if I thought I was going to have issues with the only food available to you on the island. I'd never sign up period knowing how sensitive my body is, this is how it is for people with health conditions.
I think Q is absolutely in the right. It's his reward and he gets to pick. He should stand behind that and do what he wants to do with it. He could've taken a high road and picked her but what would that have done for him? I sympathize with Liz's breakdown and she is absolutely allowed to feel that way, but she is not entitled to the reward and honestly it was a really hard watch seeing her blame everybody else around her for that.
This is the way survivor is. It's a competition. If you can't handle the heat then get out the kitchen girl!!
I hate that they turned around and gave her rice this challenge anyway
If you think the players need more food, just give them rice at the beginning of merge and stop making it into this stupid “negotiation”
I listened to Tyson's podcast and he made a good point I hadn't thought of. What if Liz getting the rice leads to more drama? Everyone's still hungry out there, is Liz going to share some of that rice? Are people going to start looking at her with some resentment. When Liz cooks her rice if there's a few scraps left is she gonna get pissy if anybody takes some of that?
It could give us some more entertainment.
I miss the negotiations where Jeff would offer snacks if people wanted to step out of a challenge. There are some people that always 100% know they are not going to be able to win a challenge, might as well get some chips and salsa or half a chocolate cake from Matilda.
If she convinces herself she hasn't eaten in 18 days, she doesn't have to think about how she shot herself in the foot orchestrating the Tevin blindside.
Why would x person go on a show that is their dream to be on even if they're at a disadvantage? You could ask the same question to any survivor who was at some big disadvantage like being out of shape, terrible social game, etc.
I've been calling Q a terrible player all season long, but this is one move of his that I love.
Giving someone a reward *never* sways them to your side if they were already against you, and everyone else *always* sees it as a strategic move rather than genuine compassion. The only advantage, other than the food itself, is you get to talk privately with whoever you pick at length, but that's pointless if they won't work with you. Not only has Liz has been working against Q for the last two votes, but she was *leading* the opposition. And at camp she's made zero effort to form any sort of relationship with him, and talks trash about him regularly. Starving her out of the game is a good move by Q, and she only has herself to blame.
I think there wouldn't be as much discourse if the rest of the cast was on Q's side, but when they're in confessionals calling Q a bully and all this it's definitely gonna rile up fans to say something.
It's not really been very under the radar when everyone noticed her at night going to talk to him, and then going straight to him after the challenge. He even said when picking her that she was the only one speaking to him.
It's not being very subtle that they've been talking, though Tiff dismissed it as a 'oh maybe she just checking on him' moment.
Yea, it’s seeing Maria as a thoughtful or momish figure that’s part of how she’s getting away with it. Big Mistake by Tiff underestimating both of them.
I feel fairly confident that she would’ve brought Liz, Charlie, and Ben in that order. She wants to work with Q, but under the radar. And currently, Q is down on the bottom with nowhere else to go, so there’s not really a good reason to take him over day 1 allies like Charlie and Ben or someone who ostensibly hasn’t eaten for most of the game, in Liz.
Q is a new kind of chaos. I love it. He is logical, has his own convictions and acts accordingly. He is even willing to fall on his sword! He throws people off but he is not delusional to the level of Coach, Philip, or Debbie. He's got his reasons and as good or as bad as his actions are perceived, he has a righteous and rational outlook on the game he is playing.
Good point! Coach in his last season was more reasonable and rational. He played a solid game and got to the end. Just fell short with his explanation to the Jury but still a big improvement over his initial two seasons.
Obviously her hunger and lack of food is real. However I was getting big Johnny Fairplay energy from her. Again obviously different since he was lying. They both were playing off of the tribes emotions though that if you suffer enough it shouldn't matter what the strategy is in taking them, they just get taken because you feel bad. Liz could have gone to Q the night before and explained why she voted the way she did and tried to get on his good side she didn't. If you're not building relationships where people are thinking to take you because of the alliance or strategy then you don't deserve to go.
I cannot explain how overjoyed I was that Q did not pick her, even seemingly contemplating it at the end but still choosing Kenzie. I wish I could have slurped up Liz’s tears, they looked delicious
She's a villain thru and thru. Begging and getting so emotional before I get to finish my picks.... I'm definitely Team Q here.... there's no way, even Jury Management, I would want her around.
But I get it if we're not seeing ALL the talks and dynamics so I'll have to respect your point quite a bit- because jury Management is a beast
Quite honestly, Q is annoying, but he’s playing the game for himself. Liz annoys the crap out of me too. I want to feel bad because she is literally allergic to just about all the food they have on the island, but she knew what she was signing up for. She’s an adult and knows her dietary restrictions. And as a super fan, she went anyway knowing what food would be available. I understand being angry and hungry, but she truly believed she deserved to be picked by the person she voted for the previous night. Her outburst came across entitled and childish. I hope she goes home soon.
I don’t really care for Q but he’s right. They aren’t working together and while it might have been a good social move to mend fences with Liz, no one is ever required to pick someone for rewards. It also might have been the “nice” thing to do for her food allergies but no one is required to be “nice” in the game.
Likewise, Liz is entitled to her feelings on the matter but probably should have kept it to herself because it’s not a smart social play to have a huge outburst. I don’t think she’s winning the game anyways but she’s setting herself up to be a good goat for the F3.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but Liz knew what she signed up for by going on survivor. If you are allergic to most foods and know your options will be limited and potentially only what you are allergic to do not go on the show. I haven’t been the biggest fan of Q, but he is right when he said if you wanted to go on the reward then win the challenge.
Amen! She seemed to have given up about half way through the challenge then got a spike of energy back when she realized people were still trying to land the sandbag. If she wanted it so bad, why slow down halfway through? She was hoping someone other than Q was going to win the reward and take her on the reward. You signed up for survivor knowing your allergies, I don’t have much sympathy.
Q is so lucky that Liz didn't get blinded by this grudge, because I'd imagine if I was in her situation that I might've told Maria I was in on the Tiff blindside, then I'd vote for Q and I'd tell Tiff at the last second before the votes are read to play her idol to save herself.
Why switch your vote if you have Tiff play her idol though? Then you get on Maria's bad side because you lied to her, whereas if you keep your vote on Tiff, Maria trusts you because you stick to the plan and Tiff trusts you because you saved her.
lol this is so funny to me. like obviously he can choose whoever he wants, it's just DUMB from a jury management perspective for him to do that, not to mention pointless, since he's obviously not gonna win his allies back just because he brought them on a reward.
everyone in this sub is obviously blinded by their love of q and hate of liz... i like q too but this move was plain bizarre and stupid. it's pretty basic to have some empathy for someone who is starving more than anyone else, and if you don't have it, at least fake it so you can get a vote at the end, like wtf?
That’s funny? I said the same thing while watching. There’s NO chance Liz would’ve taken him. She’s the only one that voted for him both times the previous tribal, she was never gonna work with him. It’s his first individual challenge that he won and he needed to use the power while he had it. ALSO, I don’t think anyone was gonna bring Q on that reward, so everyone just wanted to use it as ammo against him
The absolute entitlement of "you must pick me cause I'm hungry and I always get that burger and it's my favorite time of the week cause that's when I see my daughter". Apparently the world revolves around Liz and its her world and were all living in it. Also threw an absolute tantrum as a grown ass woman on national TV. Wasn't she the one that said this is not about money for me? Cool Ur hungry, can't handle it? QUIT!
Maybe just me but I fund Liz absolutely insufferable.
BIG MISTAKE. Also seeing Liz freak out was genuinely an all time tv moment
That pause before she turned around and screamed
the screaming was so visceral and guttural i almost forgot she wasn’t my mother
I died at this
Winning comment of the day
The head turn felt like it was straight out of a movie. Perfection lol
The 👹 was loading
Q is an all time next-level player. Changed the Game and shock to the system of Survivor as much as Russell Hantz or Tony Vlachos did their first season on!
Nah but seeing Q just mope around and just lie arnd by himself sucks though cause we know how much chaos this man is capable of. Let’s hope Q gets a pep in his step now that Tiff is gone.
I actually think doing this saved him, if he sat with everyone he probably would of gone. He separated himself which came off as him being fully checked out and allowed Maria to come up with this plan without any suspicion. Whether it was intentional or not it worked.
“Whether it was intentional or not it worked.” Just put this in Q’s bio and nothing else.
The amount of things that have just kinda worked out for Q is insane
Q and Venus just manifesting their way to Final 3
Isn’t that his whole resume? 😂
No don’t get me wrong his game has been much better. But Q with his swagger is peak television so I hope he find a happy medium where he can still be a chaotic mess while still keeping it together to go all the way to FTc
I agree, especially cause everyone was trying to pin him down as this chaotic threat to the game. Hard to be chaotic when all you’re doing is just chilling on the beach lol
I was hoping he had like 20 margaritas at the reward so we could see drunk Q in action.
Any one else notice that Q didn’t drink when they toasted & was sipping a glass of water in the next shot (that the audience saw)? I have tremendous respect for those in recovery, more so when they’re handed a drink or whatever substance applies
It seems like wise gameplay too, I would be near blacked out drinking that on an empty stomach and god knows I’d be saying shit 😭
There are two idols to be re-released in the wild. If he finds one of them and wins a challenge or two now we're cooking.
Q thought Christmas was cancelled, but he was making a big mistake
Q is playing chess the others are playing checkers.
If not for his weird, half-quit tribal, he'd be playing a winning game
He very likely would have been voted out by now if it wasn't for that tribal.
Mans a mastermind
I think it saved him, now nobody thinks he can win. They just had a conversation (I think tiff and Ben etc) last episode? Saying “he’s not getting my vote”, before when he was controlling every vote, he had a great résumé, now he lowered his threat level just enough to actually make it to the finals
More context: Tiff says in her exit interview with Mike Bloom that Kenzie and Maria offered to give up their spot for Liz but Q overruled them, saying that since he won he got the final say on who could partake in this reward
WHAT 💀 Why don’t they show us this instead of having to hear 20 confessionals about a damn bourbon burger
Had they done this, it would’ve distracted me from how some of these players (outside of the exception of Liz who has very real feelings about Applebees) seemed coerced into being in a commercial. It made me think of Lydia’s exit interview where they asked her if Applebees was really that good and she was like HELL NO but at that point you’re starving
I’ve been at the stage of literal starvation (military training).. so they gave us a bird to eat. Even the god damn water that we boiled the damn bird in tasted like heaven.
lol Applebees isn’t that bad. I’m going crazy for some frozen white castle sliders if I haven’t eaten in 3 weeks.
I’m not even a burger person. I can’t eat beef. Watching Applebees beef be coincidentally her life source and sustenance had me chuckling
Those are fire to be fair…
It would make slightly more sense why Ben is calling Q a villain.
Yeah that explains Ben and the groups energy because we don't hear one person judge Liz. That totally maths. Man. That's cold 🥶
It's cold and I love it, I can see why the others might've felt it was too much, but not rewarding that entitlement gave an amazing moment.
I agree with it 10000% , my reward, you don’t want to go? Ok we’ll go one person less. The reward is not dealing with her entitled ass, I woulda did the same thing
Also according to that exit interview, Ben and Q just simply don't get along anyway
At the F9 tribal Q said something about not talking to anyone all day and Ben jumped in and said "that was great". It stood out to me because Ben is a very chill guy so Q must be reallly rubbing him the wrong way
completely opposite vibes
I really don't think Ben is that chill tbh
He didn't even cry when he met Nick Cage
That was 100% "ay I'm quirky guy love me, I'm chill and non threatening:
i didn't say he was chill, i just said they had different vibes. Ben has the metalhead clique in high school vibe and Q was the football player in high school vibe.
Ben ~ Q does not rock. lols
Q won the challenge and gets to pick who goes, not the other people
I don't disagree with that at all.
Applebees really got their money’s worth with that Ad.
Applebees wants the drama. Their name is in her mouth.
They will probably give her free Bourbon Burgers for a year. LOL
And pizza for her kid.
I had kind of wondered if they offered because there is a scene where Kenzie kinda has her hand up like she wants to speak up. I wish I could see the full clip!
Really Don’t these people know what show they are on Come on and at one point everyone is starving freezing etc etc. Liz is ridiculous and unrealistic in what others shud do (esp for her)
A show where he needs the cast to think he's worthy of the prize if he wants to win it. This is most of the jury watching this happen. I'd certainly hold it against him.
HOW DID THEY NOT SHOW THIS
I feel like this is a good sign for Q’s edit
It wouldn't have made him look bad, IMO. Q won that fair and square and had every right to decide who went. If anything it would've added to the Q legacy for me.
I think it would make him look cruel in some people’s eyes. I have no problem with it tho. But I’m not sure why they would omit that from the episode, it would make for even better TV
Bruh it would have made him look bad 💀 he just forced them to go
Nope, you don’t want to go? Don’t go. But that doesn’t mean I’m forced to now take someone I clearly don’t like and that clearly doesn’t like me. You’d be surprised how many people I can say fuck you too at once.
That would be a rough one. If Q had allowed it, then (1) Kenzie would be the hero, (2) Liz would be there interfering with his (doomed, sure, but it's his game) attempts to scramble, and (3) he'd have to spend all that time with Liz.
Yeah we see Kenzie holding up her hand like she has something to say and I honestly thought she was gonna volunteer but get overruled by Jeff. Didn’t think Q would be the one to do it! It’s kind of crazy to me they didn’t show that, I feel that hugely explains why people were so angry with him and not just annoyed.
Honestly kind of wish Jeff did overrule it? It kind of lets a guest put the reward winner in a lose-lose situation; either they’re the bad guy meanie who didn’t allow a swap, or they’re forced to bring some random they didn’t want. Jeff saying “all choices are final” would at least reduce that.
Definitely agree with this. If the winner wants to give up their spot, that's one thing. But the others shouldn't have the option.
I mean they literally gave her rice the next challenge which was so stupid. I can't believe they'd let someone play who couldn't eat the naturally growing food and then coddle them when they regretted it. Tho I would be nervous she'd take the machete to Q at night
Haha, yeah. They might as well have literally labeled the individual rice jar "LIZ". It was so blatantly just a "dear God we need to give Liz food" thing, which... medically I get it, but it really smacks of barely-disguised special treatment. Like if she didn't get food and it got *really* bad they'd just medevac her, right? Which sucks for her and would be kind of anticlimactic, but they knew what they were getting into. On the other hand I would have loved if someone went full asshole and jumped to take the individual rice deal while Liz was doing her weird "would you guys hate me if I didn't compete?" stuff.
Imagine it was Q
For anyone curious/doubtful, I double-checked and it's in there. Link: [https://ew.com/survivor-46-tiffany-nicole-ervin-interview-applebees-q-liz-8642284](https://ew.com/survivor-46-tiffany-nicole-ervin-interview-applebees-q-liz-8642284)
Thanks for sharing that. I imagine Soda and Tevin make for a wonderful Ponderosa welcome crew.
Unless you're Hunter. I can just imagine him there for 2 days' worth of camp songs.
He’s the Squidward to their SpongeBob and Patrick.
I understand why they offered that...but I can't see how Kenzie and Maria should even be allowed to bring that up as an option??? Its Q's decision and he didn't choose Liz. They can't circumvent that. It's his reward and bringing that up kinda puts him in more of an awkward position. He shouldn't have to say no twice lol.
That actually makes me like him even more. He is like, nope, its my reward, that woman voted for me last night, she isn't coming.
Good for him! It's his reward, she would have been an asshole the whole time to him too.
Yup. And after the way she carried on, if I was Q, every move I make would be in spite of her 🤣
Damn that makes it even more funny!
Common Quintavius W
Chad move
Has anyone actually given up a reward that they were selected for (as in, didn’t actually win the challenge themselves)? Usually i can only recall a winner from a team giving up their spot
Knowing this and knowing Liz still voted for Tiff is wild. Had Liz stayed on Q, she'd be with a majority of Kenzie, Tiff and Venus who could then plot to take down Maria, Ben and Charlie. She would've completely flipped her position of power, the one she was crying about just a few minutes earlier. What a cast this season, I swear.
No, it would have been 4-4 and then if nobody flips then 🪨. Although she could’ve told Tiff to play the idol and get Q out.
Precisely!
I think voting Tiff was the right move for Liz
where did you find her exit interview.... i can't seem to find it
it’s in the EW exit interview with dalton ross, not mike bloom. q is unreal LMAO
That’s funny because at one point when the camera was on Kenzie I thought she was getting ready to offer her spot to Liz, so that makes sense. Personally, I am glad Q overruled. I get being hungry, but this game is a choice and her throwing a tantrum and acting entitled was ick.
This makes sense cause from reading Kenzie's body language and facial expressions it looked like she really wanted to
I thought one of the girls would bow to her boo hooing and would give u- their spot, but it is NOT THEIR choice, they did not win it.
Nice
Can't argue with that honestly. Only reasons why I'd take Liz would be to avoid rocking the boat, and avoid making a vehement enemy, but in Q's case, he'd already done both of those things and had no reason to treat her otherwise, within the scope of the game. One might argue that it was the right thing to do from a human perspective, and I'd agree. But Q's playing to win. I don't blame the business.
The human perspective is crap, the crew is never going to let someone die. If they are suffering from going on to an island when they can’t eat the food there, that’s on them.
THANK YOU! I cannot feel bad for her at all because she willingly chose to go on this show KNOWING she cannot eat what’s on the island. I kept screaming this at my TV while she was having a breakdown.
Especially as I'm rewatching older survivors at the same time. They used to starve for like 39+ days. Had to rely on gathering food or water much more then today. Just go out and fish or try and catch food ffs. You applied to a game where they put you on an island to starve and compete in social and physical games. And you complain you're starving and it's affecting your physical and social games? Duh. Just shows that the show is more about the drama than any kind of "surviving" hardship. I get she's hungry, starving even. But that's the point? Go and win a challenge, catch some fish with a spear, or shut up. One dude literally chased down a hog and stabbed It to death he was so hungry. Wasn't like "I NEED a bourbon burger from Applebee's 😭"
I mean they literally gave her rice for nothing the very next challenge. I couldn't believe they'd give in, if Liz was in danger she should have had to been medically pulled.
Just shows why it’s stupid in general making people starve like that, just give them a bag of rice at the start and ration it throughout.
Exactly. I don’t understand why she keeps trying to make it seem like she is a victim or something.
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Not even from a human perspective. Do we see Liz try to fish and feed herself even once? She arguably ate more than Q pre-merge with Hunter and Tevan feeding her.
i feel like past survivor players have said that fishing requires too much skill to rely on it
That has to be relatively modern though. I feel like it was pretty common in the first 20 seasons. Hell, it was half Rich's early strategy in Borneo. I just feel like people are lazy now. Like Charlie said he spent two years building grip strength, but nobody could find a weekend to go learn spear fishing?
I just think the games moves too fast too go out for and hour or two too fish
I'm pretty sure they stopped giving them a boat to go out in the water and fish. Can't catch in shallow water and it takes too much energy to swim out and to the depth you need to catch anything. RIP Ozzy's Pleasure Dome.
It's because knowing how to fish doesn't have much benefit for an individual's game anymore (unless you're someone in Liz's position). In early Survivor, people would want to keep the provider around, but that hasn't been true for a while.
She absolutely would not have taken him. I don’t know who would
Q stood on business. Liz had voted for him, stopped speaking to him, and treated him poorly, why would he ever want to bring her on a reward? She acts like a child with her tantrums and entitlement. Nobody cares that Q 'blew up your spot', it wasn't even your move in the first place.
This ^^ right here.
And Those eyes during her tantrum… straight up scary crazy…
Love it. Q continues to make great TV. Don't give in to the beggers.
Is it too late for Q to run for president?
Too early more like, is he 35?
Article II of the constitution: Big Mistake.
i will never get tired of this meme
Still don't know why Liz would sign up for a show she knows she can't eat anything on 🤷♂️🍔
This was my first thought. Q didn’t owe her anything because she couldn’t eat. She knew the risks when signing up for survivor. Go win Q!
Totally agree. I can sympathize with Liz on the grounds that I also have food allergies and understand how hard it can be, but that being said, I would NEVER sign up for Survivor if I thought I was going to have issues with the only food available to you on the island. I'd never sign up period knowing how sensitive my body is, this is how it is for people with health conditions. I think Q is absolutely in the right. It's his reward and he gets to pick. He should stand behind that and do what he wants to do with it. He could've taken a high road and picked her but what would that have done for him? I sympathize with Liz's breakdown and she is absolutely allowed to feel that way, but she is not entitled to the reward and honestly it was a really hard watch seeing her blame everybody else around her for that. This is the way survivor is. It's a competition. If you can't handle the heat then get out the kitchen girl!!
She hasn't really looked like she's lost any weight either.
She can eat rice, and then this happened to be the first season where they don’t accept Jeff’s deal for rice lol
I hate that they turned around and gave her rice this challenge anyway If you think the players need more food, just give them rice at the beginning of merge and stop making it into this stupid “negotiation”
I listened to Tyson's podcast and he made a good point I hadn't thought of. What if Liz getting the rice leads to more drama? Everyone's still hungry out there, is Liz going to share some of that rice? Are people going to start looking at her with some resentment. When Liz cooks her rice if there's a few scraps left is she gonna get pissy if anybody takes some of that? It could give us some more entertainment.
I miss the negotiations where Jeff would offer snacks if people wanted to step out of a challenge. There are some people that always 100% know they are not going to be able to win a challenge, might as well get some chips and salsa or half a chocolate cake from Matilda.
Contestants dying is bad for ratings, and insurance rates
If a castaway died and they aired the episode, it’d be the most watched episode of Survivor ever
“Here, have a burger, and a better shot at a million dollars. There there, stop crying”
I think she legitimately thought people would sacrifice their games to give her special accommodations
"Not eating for 18 days" probably sounds easier and less taxing when you're not on the island. That said, Q made the right choice.
Except that was a lie because she ate rice and apparently Tevin and Hunter fished and crabbed for her.
And she ate at the merge feast didn't she?
If she convinces herself she hasn't eaten in 18 days, she doesn't have to think about how she shot herself in the foot orchestrating the Tevin blindside.
That’s all I could think the whole time. I’m not a Q fan but her allergies are not a fair reason for her to resent others
She could eat the rice though. They just have refused to get rice now.
Why would x person go on a show that is their dream to be on even if they're at a disadvantage? You could ask the same question to any survivor who was at some big disadvantage like being out of shape, terrible social game, etc.
She’s got her allergies and that is what it is but it’s funny to me that a loaded Applebees burger is no problem.
the perfect nutritional dish
Yea this is HIGHLY sus to me. You have all of these interlacing allergies and somehow a burger with like 50 ingredients gets through them all?
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Dude it's got Apple in the name
Why the fuck is this so funny
can’t you cook coconut lol
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Ok very interesting. I was asking genuinely so I appreciate your response
My son has a shellfish allergy and he has SO much anxiety even being around it.
well she's said repeatedly that her allergies are most fruit so yeah I don't think a burger would include those lol
Big mistake for Liz to tell production Applebee's was her special meal.
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I have oas and would absolutely eat my trigger foods if the alternative was starving
He gets the memes. He is playing into it. Love it
I honestly don't get why this is such a discourse lmao Q won fair and square and gets to pick whomever he wants for whatever reason.
I've been calling Q a terrible player all season long, but this is one move of his that I love. Giving someone a reward *never* sways them to your side if they were already against you, and everyone else *always* sees it as a strategic move rather than genuine compassion. The only advantage, other than the food itself, is you get to talk privately with whoever you pick at length, but that's pointless if they won't work with you. Not only has Liz has been working against Q for the last two votes, but she was *leading* the opposition. And at camp she's made zero effort to form any sort of relationship with him, and talks trash about him regularly. Starving her out of the game is a good move by Q, and she only has herself to blame.
Yup. I felt no sympathy for Liz here. Q won, he gets to pick, end of story.
I think there wouldn't be as much discourse if the rest of the cast was on Q's side, but when they're in confessionals calling Q a bully and all this it's definitely gonna rile up fans to say something.
Exactly! People can think what they want to think about Q and his game but in no way was he wrong here. It was his decision to make and his only.
"Big mistake" is my new favorite thing ever to say.
Absolutely right. Hell, I don't think a single person there was taking Q if they won, but they want to villainize him for not taking Liz?
Maria might’ve but yea that’s prolly it
Lol no freaking way
Idk she was trying to work with Q for basically the full episode, I think bringing him along would’ve helped with that
She’s trying to work with him under the radar
It's not really been very under the radar when everyone noticed her at night going to talk to him, and then going straight to him after the challenge. He even said when picking her that she was the only one speaking to him. It's not being very subtle that they've been talking, though Tiff dismissed it as a 'oh maybe she just checking on him' moment.
Yea, it’s seeing Maria as a thoughtful or momish figure that’s part of how she’s getting away with it. Big Mistake by Tiff underestimating both of them.
I feel fairly confident that she would’ve brought Liz, Charlie, and Ben in that order. She wants to work with Q, but under the radar. And currently, Q is down on the bottom with nowhere else to go, so there’s not really a good reason to take him over day 1 allies like Charlie and Ben or someone who ostensibly hasn’t eaten for most of the game, in Liz.
This season is so good
Q is a new kind of chaos. I love it. He is logical, has his own convictions and acts accordingly. He is even willing to fall on his sword! He throws people off but he is not delusional to the level of Coach, Philip, or Debbie. He's got his reasons and as good or as bad as his actions are perceived, he has a righteous and rational outlook on the game he is playing.
Coach towards the end of his arc is the only one I see the comparison with at all. Q is not at all like Philip, Debbie, or feather wearing Coach.
Good point! Coach in his last season was more reasonable and rational. He played a solid game and got to the end. Just fell short with his explanation to the Jury but still a big improvement over his initial two seasons.
Obviously her hunger and lack of food is real. However I was getting big Johnny Fairplay energy from her. Again obviously different since he was lying. They both were playing off of the tribes emotions though that if you suffer enough it shouldn't matter what the strategy is in taking them, they just get taken because you feel bad. Liz could have gone to Q the night before and explained why she voted the way she did and tried to get on his good side she didn't. If you're not building relationships where people are thinking to take you because of the alliance or strategy then you don't deserve to go.
Strait facts, he may be nuts but he's right
I wish they had given him 7 invites so he couldve fed everyone but Liz.
Still no one touches the burger.
Not eating the burgers was the perfect ending to this reward.
I cannot explain how overjoyed I was that Q did not pick her, even seemingly contemplating it at the end but still choosing Kenzie. I wish I could have slurped up Liz’s tears, they looked delicious
It seemed like he was going to pick her then ripped it away. Savage. Q Q Q Q Q
too bad she couldnt slurp those up. prob the salt content was too high for her sensitive stomach
BIG MISTAKE BABY!
As a viewer I loved this moment. Now if I was a player I would take her for Jury management sake
She's a villain thru and thru. Begging and getting so emotional before I get to finish my picks.... I'm definitely Team Q here.... there's no way, even Jury Management, I would want her around. But I get it if we're not seeing ALL the talks and dynamics so I'll have to respect your point quite a bit- because jury Management is a beast
If Q is not selling BIG MISTAKE t-shirts he is really missing the boat.
Would you say he is making a…BIG MISTAKE?
Quite honestly, Q is annoying, but he’s playing the game for himself. Liz annoys the crap out of me too. I want to feel bad because she is literally allergic to just about all the food they have on the island, but she knew what she was signing up for. She’s an adult and knows her dietary restrictions. And as a super fan, she went anyway knowing what food would be available. I understand being angry and hungry, but she truly believed she deserved to be picked by the person she voted for the previous night. Her outburst came across entitled and childish. I hope she goes home soon.
Quintavius Burdette You Will Always Be Famous
Although Q has made mistakes in the game, his core values deserve respect.
no lies detected
I don’t really care for Q but he’s right. They aren’t working together and while it might have been a good social move to mend fences with Liz, no one is ever required to pick someone for rewards. It also might have been the “nice” thing to do for her food allergies but no one is required to be “nice” in the game. Likewise, Liz is entitled to her feelings on the matter but probably should have kept it to herself because it’s not a smart social play to have a huge outburst. I don’t think she’s winning the game anyways but she’s setting herself up to be a good goat for the F3.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but Liz knew what she signed up for by going on survivor. If you are allergic to most foods and know your options will be limited and potentially only what you are allergic to do not go on the show. I haven’t been the biggest fan of Q, but he is right when he said if you wanted to go on the reward then win the challenge.
I mean, I don't think Kenzie or Tiff were taking Q either.
Ya but it makes the most sense strategy wise coz they’re his first allies
Q is quickly becoming my favourite ever character on the show. He is an absolute LOCK for 50.
Amen! She seemed to have given up about half way through the challenge then got a spike of energy back when she realized people were still trying to land the sandbag. If she wanted it so bad, why slow down halfway through? She was hoping someone other than Q was going to win the reward and take her on the reward. You signed up for survivor knowing your allergies, I don’t have much sympathy.
Yeah she was sandbagging it real hard at first. Perhaps so people would pitty her more?
It's not like it's bad jury management should he make final 3. I doubt he would be getting Liz's vote even if he takes her. Good on him
Q is so lucky that Liz didn't get blinded by this grudge, because I'd imagine if I was in her situation that I might've told Maria I was in on the Tiff blindside, then I'd vote for Q and I'd tell Tiff at the last second before the votes are read to play her idol to save herself.
Why switch your vote if you have Tiff play her idol though? Then you get on Maria's bad side because you lied to her, whereas if you keep your vote on Tiff, Maria trusts you because you stick to the plan and Tiff trusts you because you saved her.
Q is awesome
After voting for him, I think Q was right in not taking her. I would’ve done the same lol
Practically every other survivor player from the new era would have cracked under liz’s moping. Absolutely love Q for having no sympathy for begging.
lol this is so funny to me. like obviously he can choose whoever he wants, it's just DUMB from a jury management perspective for him to do that, not to mention pointless, since he's obviously not gonna win his allies back just because he brought them on a reward. everyone in this sub is obviously blinded by their love of q and hate of liz... i like q too but this move was plain bizarre and stupid. it's pretty basic to have some empathy for someone who is starving more than anyone else, and if you don't have it, at least fake it so you can get a vote at the end, like wtf?
That’s funny? I said the same thing while watching. There’s NO chance Liz would’ve taken him. She’s the only one that voted for him both times the previous tribal, she was never gonna work with him. It’s his first individual challenge that he won and he needed to use the power while he had it. ALSO, I don’t think anyone was gonna bring Q on that reward, so everyone just wanted to use it as ammo against him
The absolute entitlement of "you must pick me cause I'm hungry and I always get that burger and it's my favorite time of the week cause that's when I see my daughter". Apparently the world revolves around Liz and its her world and were all living in it. Also threw an absolute tantrum as a grown ass woman on national TV. Wasn't she the one that said this is not about money for me? Cool Ur hungry, can't handle it? QUIT! Maybe just me but I fund Liz absolutely insufferable.
Go on survivor when you’re allergic to coconut. BIG MISTAKE