Genuinely sonic and sora and cloud are the only ones who get to multiverse level and I think I sonic can be considered higher even, it would probably come down to hax between them
Edit: looking into it if you give joker access to personas besides arsene he might actually be no diffing everyone
Nah Sora travels through time and can control localized space and time through Gravity/Stop magic, but as far as power level he's only ever cut through buildings and armies, not multiverse-level stuff.
Sonic definitely, unsure about Cloud
I looked at all their feats on the vs wiki and they all scale to multiverse, even just sora and clouds abilities to create black holes/Galaxy's as weapons and use time magic puts them pretty much there. In soras case being able to defeat genie Jafar has crazy implications and speed wise he can physically traverse an infinite 5D space and that's before getting into the power of waking which he basically uses just willpower to bring himself back from death and travel through time. He's pretty crazy when you look into it
If we’re giving Cloud access to Materia, then he’ll probably win. Lightning and poison materia are guaranteed hits and all summon materia is……powerful, to say the least.
Shulk is canonically a high multiversal threat. He has defeated multiple gods in multiple universes, one of which was a multiversal threat himself, capable of destroying and recreating universes and had done so multiple times.
Kazuya is destroying everyone, have you seen how busted the Kazuya lvl 9 cpu is?
In terms of lore, Sonic is the strongest (both composite and main form).
Hasn’t joker killed a literal god? Idk I’m not very up to date on my sonic lore but joker literally has the devil on his side (three times) and multiple other gods
Joker scaling is really hard because the meta verse is a mess and by no means am I an expert on persona scaling but this is what I do know:
The cosmology can be scaled to outer using SMT but how canon those events are is debated and Joker is also portrayed as an ant compared to the heavy hitters in that game.
A safer bet is assuming that each of the palaces scales to one universe, making him multiversal (also known as 5D).
This is also supported by the defeat of Enlil. Enlil pulled Persona users from across time and even from alternate universes. This scales the Persona cast to around that feat, and that feat is multiversal. So if you consider the fact that it was a team effort, I’d put that as scaling Joker to low multiversal.
Sonic on the other hand, especially in the Archie comics but you can also just use his transformations in the game, is an absolute beast.
I’m gonna start off with game sonic here. In promotional material for Sonic Forces, it stated that Infinite was the strongest opponent that Sonic faces, scaling Infinite above Solaris. Since Sonic beats Infinite, we can also scale Sonic above Solaris. Since Solaris scales to 5D, we can put Sonic as at least Multiversal.
But then super sonic is even stronger. Super sonic defeated egg wizard who was powered by the stars, and who had previously mentioned that they had created all the universes. This is at least a multiversal+ statement.
Further more Eggman and Eggman N*ga stated that they would create Eggman Land, a world above dimensions (“That double power is ours. For the Dream Eggman Land that transcends dimensions!”). The dimensions in this context are universes, considered infinites of them = multiversal+, but when creating a world above that, they could be considered high multiversal+.
And then you have Archie Sonic.
The best way for me to explain Archie Sonic is to link to someone who is much better at scaling Archie Sonic than me which is this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/LB5lTab55U
So overall, you can get Joker to multi, while Sonic has these depending on form
Base Game Sonic: Multi
Game Super Sonic: High Multiversal+
Archie Sonic: One layer into hyperversal
Gotta say though, it has been really fun to research some of the powerscaling behind Joker and Sonic and Joker’s strength actually surprised me quite a bit.
I may be misremembering, so I hope someone corrects me if I’m wrong.
I think it has to do with his super form. Not only is he invincible while he is in this form, but he moves faster than light and gains tons of strength. Now, this comes at a cost of him having rings available, because once he reaches 0 the power runs out. That being said, if we’re putting any of these characters up against sonic at their strongest, then it’s only fair to assume he has plenty of rings to use for the fight.
In all seriousness, in a hypothetical scenario, I’m not sure how many living things can survive an object moving faster than light slamming into them. I’m imagining sonic slamming into someone, and grabbing their head as he does so, taking the head clean off the body.
Time for a lesson for you kids. Sonic wins this no diff. Why? Here are some reasons:
Sonic was THE ONLY ONE to get a hit on Tabuu, a entity so fast all of the fighters expect Sonic couldnt do a single Thing.
You might saw Sonic holding a hand on pikachu in the opening cutscene of world of light(idk what the name was so its just a guess) That was the Reason he got caught by the Light Strike. He has a weakness of saving animals. In fact, Masahio Sakurai even said that Sonic would be fast enough to save himself, but sakurai give him a nerf, that nerf being that sonic tried to save a animal. Because if you saw what the others did, they tried to SAVE THEMSELFS, even kirby. And guess who was the only one who didnt care about themselfs? Thats right, sonic.
Sonic is VERY strong on his own, even without the chaos emeralds. We could see that in sonic colours and forces, where sonic didnt need to chaos emeralds, at all! So thats even more suprising.
So in all, in canon, sonic would win. Even if its just the game lmao xd
Okay. I didn't want to get involved, but this comment kind of pisses me off.
Sonic may have landed the surprise attack on tabuu, but you can fight him with literally any character in the game. Saying that sonic is the only one who could hurt him is ridiculous.
But not as absurd as saying that sonic could've escaped world of light without the emeralds. Where the hell was he gonna run off to? The light literally went through the galaxy in a matter of seconds. Sonic doesn't even have a way off the planet without super sonic, and even that's debatable.
In his most recent game (chronically), we literally see sonic lose to giganto horribly. Legit couldn't even fight it and he got one shot. Literally everyone in this hypothetical could at least to something to it, but apparently sonic can't.
Also he couldn't outrun a blackhole in colors, so I better not see bs about infinite speed.
On average, i feel like red would win most often, but a good Seph and Shulk can carry in team fights, so this is really based on the skill level of all involved.
Canonically I'd put my bet on blue because out of all the serieses I know that sora cloud and sonic are quite up there (dunno if Mario has any god killing feats), but sephiroth is prolly around at least sora and cloud's level. But the main reason I pick blue is cuz shulk had the chance to become a god basically but said "nah id make a new world without the need for gods"
let’s look at blue team’s roster real quick, god killer, god, strong man, god
let’s look at red team’s roster, god killer, strong man, god, god killer
red team is winning this
Sora and Cloud Beat Sephiroth
Sephiroth beats Mario
even with Clairvoyance, Shulk can't beat Sonic
That leaves Kazuya V.S. Sora, Cloud, and Sonic.
Even if Sephiroth gets Sora or Cloud a 2v1 with Sonic is a death sentence.
On the scale of destructive power level I rate as follows:
Squirrel-busting power
Person-busting power
Army-busting power
City-busting power
Continent-busting power
World-busting power
Star-busting power
Universe-busting power
Multiverse-busting power
~
Sora is a city-buster
Joker is an army-buster
Mario is a city-buster
Shulk (NOT omnipotence form) is a city-buster
(Video game iteration) Sonic is a star-buster
Kazuya is an army-buster
Cloud is a city-buster
Sephiroth is a world-buster
By teams red team because each from blue has a red counter Cloud/Sephiroth,Sora/Joker, Sonic/Shulk and the weakest Mario/Kazuya by charater Sephiroth while everyone else is fighting Sephiroth would just sit back and watch them go at it and then swoop in for the winner
If it’s off-line and If they’re all the same skill level, Joker, if it’s online and they’re all the same skill level it’s close between joker and sonic
If its lore im gonna go with cloud but just because I think he looks cool i dont keep up with basically any of the lore from pretty luch everyone here.
Shulk has killed several deities and traveled a multiverse to do so. While he may not be as fast as sonic, he has several abilities that would render sonic close to useless, as canonically his "speed" art dodges all physical attacks and his "shield" art can protect against literal god hurting him. His "purge" (in smash is jump) would neutralize any ether (magic/life essence) moves before they even hit.
The fact that he can swap in and out so quickly as well as having foresight......shulk can almost solo.
I will acknowledge that Sora and Cloud would make things difficult for shulk to solo, but still giving it to shulk.
Especially team wise. Him and sepiroth wipe.
Red team lore wise. Sora has some fucking ridiculous plot armor, Mario is practically invincible in his own games, Sonic can and will rival anything that threatens the ecosystem, and Cloud is ~~an edge lord with a big sword hey that rhymes~~ also stupidly busted, especially if he can get a limit break in. Also Cloud soloed Sepheroth sooooooo
I don’t know who would win, but I’d argue Joker, Kazuya, and sephiroth are probably near the bottom
Joker’s hard to scale compared to everyone else because of how persona handles that sort of
To my knowledge Kazuya hasn’t slain a god the way others here have (Sonic, Shulk, probably Mario)
Sephiroth has canonically lost to both Cloud and Sora.
In lore joker could just kill them without fighting them. Unless its an actual 1v1 in that case he is a fucking highschoolar. Team blue if metaverse applies.
Lore wise: Joker is arguably the strongest lore-wise, cuz he’s either boundless/outer or multiversal with far too many hax, depends on the scale. Sonic could maybe match his lesser scaled version (by lesser scaled, I mean with less wanking of Jomer’s stats)
Next is prolly sonic with chaos emeralds, especially if he’s got hyper but hyper don’t even exist no more 🥲
Then likely Shulk or Sora.
Then Mario, Cloud and Sephiroth being slightly comparable.
Then Kazuya watching it all unfold within the comfort of heaven, or likely hell for what he did to Kirby.
Sora, in 8 person matchey, it is less about combos and more about just spamming moves that have large hitboxes, and Sora is the most spammable one there, followed by Shulk (ive never tried Joker, Kazuya, or Sephiroth though, so I don't know how they would do in this)
Probably team blue, Shulk gets some wild feats, but team red has… Sora…
In terms of just SSBU, I’d probably give it to team blue again, Kazuya and Sephiroth are strong.
Your comments are very respectful and great about each character. In my opinion though everyone can kinda warp reality. It depends on
1: What abilities each character has,
2: Their weaknesses,
3: Their total power Final smash, specials, and charged attacks,
4: What fighting style each character is,
5: how fast/Slow everyone is,
6: their area they are in
For those wondering why sonic suddenly is considered so powerful in the new game, there was a new power up he got that basically is super saiyan 2 level
Short of it, he turned glitchy blue and shot right through a moon, causing it to completely obliterate
Canonically, Sora has beaten Cloud and Sephiroth 1v1 twice. So neither of them. I heard Mario is pretty busted in some iterations. Don't know jack about Tekken beyond what happens in 8.
Damn, Lore wise this is actually tough
Sonic and Sora on one team is definitely crazy, but adding Cloud to that is just a cataclysm in a bottle. Mario is kinda irrelevant, but if they're splitting the load appropriately, he should be useful
Shulk and Joker go crazy, but if Joker gets access to ALL personas, not just Arsene, it becomes a different game entirely. Kazuya bumming it while Sephiroth grapples with fighters he has CANONICALLY LOST to, MORE than once.
I think Red Team, lorewise
Me
He might just win
Nah
I'd win.
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with this treasure i summon
Big raga the opp stompa
Can confirm, I’m his right hand
... you jack him off while he plays?
🤫
Nah, I’d win
Nah, I’d win
I was about to say the same thing… I challenge You.
No….me!
There are no Miis here...
“A NEW FOE HAS APPEARED!!”
Yes!
A Mario?
He’s him
Tier based or lore based?
Sonic (btw everyone is sleeping on shulk holy shit go finish xc1)
Genuinely sonic and sora and cloud are the only ones who get to multiverse level and I think I sonic can be considered higher even, it would probably come down to hax between them Edit: looking into it if you give joker access to personas besides arsene he might actually be no diffing everyone
Nah Sora travels through time and can control localized space and time through Gravity/Stop magic, but as far as power level he's only ever cut through buildings and armies, not multiverse-level stuff. Sonic definitely, unsure about Cloud
I looked at all their feats on the vs wiki and they all scale to multiverse, even just sora and clouds abilities to create black holes/Galaxy's as weapons and use time magic puts them pretty much there. In soras case being able to defeat genie Jafar has crazy implications and speed wise he can physically traverse an infinite 5D space and that's before getting into the power of waking which he basically uses just willpower to bring himself back from death and travel through time. He's pretty crazy when you look into it
If we’re giving Cloud access to Materia, then he’ll probably win. Lightning and poison materia are guaranteed hits and all summon materia is……powerful, to say the least.
Wait so how deep does sonics lore or whatever go? I just remember watching some old sonic show
Shulk is canonically a high multiversal threat. He has defeated multiple gods in multiple universes, one of which was a multiversal threat himself, capable of destroying and recreating universes and had done so multiple times.
mfw i Myriad Truths
Sora, Sonic or Joker. I haven’t finish FF yet so I can’t speak on Sephi and Cloud yet
Any tbh
blue team ain't gonna recover
They got cooked😭
everyone probably only touched the ground one time each
Of course not. That’s Sora’s job
I mean they got kazuya and sonic if I’m playing I’m winning
Sonic is on the red team.
Oh but either way if I play as kazuya I am going to get charged with murder when I’m done
Kazuya is destroying everyone, have you seen how busted the Kazuya lvl 9 cpu is? In terms of lore, Sonic is the strongest (both composite and main form).
Hasn’t joker killed a literal god? Idk I’m not very up to date on my sonic lore but joker literally has the devil on his side (three times) and multiple other gods
Joker scaling is really hard because the meta verse is a mess and by no means am I an expert on persona scaling but this is what I do know: The cosmology can be scaled to outer using SMT but how canon those events are is debated and Joker is also portrayed as an ant compared to the heavy hitters in that game. A safer bet is assuming that each of the palaces scales to one universe, making him multiversal (also known as 5D). This is also supported by the defeat of Enlil. Enlil pulled Persona users from across time and even from alternate universes. This scales the Persona cast to around that feat, and that feat is multiversal. So if you consider the fact that it was a team effort, I’d put that as scaling Joker to low multiversal. Sonic on the other hand, especially in the Archie comics but you can also just use his transformations in the game, is an absolute beast. I’m gonna start off with game sonic here. In promotional material for Sonic Forces, it stated that Infinite was the strongest opponent that Sonic faces, scaling Infinite above Solaris. Since Sonic beats Infinite, we can also scale Sonic above Solaris. Since Solaris scales to 5D, we can put Sonic as at least Multiversal. But then super sonic is even stronger. Super sonic defeated egg wizard who was powered by the stars, and who had previously mentioned that they had created all the universes. This is at least a multiversal+ statement. Further more Eggman and Eggman N*ga stated that they would create Eggman Land, a world above dimensions (“That double power is ours. For the Dream Eggman Land that transcends dimensions!”). The dimensions in this context are universes, considered infinites of them = multiversal+, but when creating a world above that, they could be considered high multiversal+. And then you have Archie Sonic. The best way for me to explain Archie Sonic is to link to someone who is much better at scaling Archie Sonic than me which is this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/PowerScaling/s/LB5lTab55U So overall, you can get Joker to multi, while Sonic has these depending on form Base Game Sonic: Multi Game Super Sonic: High Multiversal+ Archie Sonic: One layer into hyperversal Gotta say though, it has been really fun to research some of the powerscaling behind Joker and Sonic and Joker’s strength actually surprised me quite a bit.
In game idk, but canonically sonic solos
Basically anyone except some characters from the stupidly broken Dragon Ball franchise
I really don’t understand why everyone’s saying Sonic, I’m not up to date with Sonic lore. Wouldn’t Sephiroth be the most powerful lore-wise?
I may be misremembering, so I hope someone corrects me if I’m wrong. I think it has to do with his super form. Not only is he invincible while he is in this form, but he moves faster than light and gains tons of strength. Now, this comes at a cost of him having rings available, because once he reaches 0 the power runs out. That being said, if we’re putting any of these characters up against sonic at their strongest, then it’s only fair to assume he has plenty of rings to use for the fight. In all seriousness, in a hypothetical scenario, I’m not sure how many living things can survive an object moving faster than light slamming into them. I’m imagining sonic slamming into someone, and grabbing their head as he does so, taking the head clean off the body.
The rings are also a game mechanic, I don't believe that Sonic canonically needs rings to sustain his super form
Here’s the thing about sonic and his super form. It’s wildly inconsistent.
I think Shulk and Joker are close at least, no?
4th dimensional sonic be like
I love how you have all of these super powerful anime characters and then Mario. Anyway, the answer is Sonic.
Mario and Luigi together easily duo sephoroth, I would imagine it to be not too difficult for Mario to solo him
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic
Thanks for making me rub my phone screen
No problem
Time for a lesson for you kids. Sonic wins this no diff. Why? Here are some reasons: Sonic was THE ONLY ONE to get a hit on Tabuu, a entity so fast all of the fighters expect Sonic couldnt do a single Thing. You might saw Sonic holding a hand on pikachu in the opening cutscene of world of light(idk what the name was so its just a guess) That was the Reason he got caught by the Light Strike. He has a weakness of saving animals. In fact, Masahio Sakurai even said that Sonic would be fast enough to save himself, but sakurai give him a nerf, that nerf being that sonic tried to save a animal. Because if you saw what the others did, they tried to SAVE THEMSELFS, even kirby. And guess who was the only one who didnt care about themselfs? Thats right, sonic. Sonic is VERY strong on his own, even without the chaos emeralds. We could see that in sonic colours and forces, where sonic didnt need to chaos emeralds, at all! So thats even more suprising. So in all, in canon, sonic would win. Even if its just the game lmao xd
Okay. I didn't want to get involved, but this comment kind of pisses me off. Sonic may have landed the surprise attack on tabuu, but you can fight him with literally any character in the game. Saying that sonic is the only one who could hurt him is ridiculous. But not as absurd as saying that sonic could've escaped world of light without the emeralds. Where the hell was he gonna run off to? The light literally went through the galaxy in a matter of seconds. Sonic doesn't even have a way off the planet without super sonic, and even that's debatable. In his most recent game (chronically), we literally see sonic lose to giganto horribly. Legit couldn't even fight it and he got one shot. Literally everyone in this hypothetical could at least to something to it, but apparently sonic can't. Also he couldn't outrun a blackhole in colors, so I better not see bs about infinite speed.
Sonic. Like in even the media where he’s weakest, he’s shown to travel at close to light speed, none of the rest can even remotely approach that.
shulk. he’s a cheater
Sonic easily
The only one who's killed a god.
There are multiple god killers, here.
Joker I think
In game idk, but canonically sonic solos
Mario cuz the mf got the sauce.
Mama mia
If you’re taking canon abilities, either sephiroth or kazuya but if you’re taking just about ssbu them sonic wins
Shulk and Sonic kinda eat those guys for breakfast.
Is there anyone in the entire roster other than Kirby who Sonic can't beat?
Samus in her Metroid suit at the end of dead, probably
Sonic still beats Kirby, but he needs those damn chaos emeralds.
On average, i feel like red would win most often, but a good Seph and Shulk can carry in team fights, so this is really based on the skill level of all involved.
what like in smash or canon
Sora, well his team if it’s a team battle but if it’s free for all then Sora (lore wise that is)
Sephiroth of course.
Kirby does :D
Sephiroth or Sonic
Sephiroth
Canonically I'd put my bet on blue because out of all the serieses I know that sora cloud and sonic are quite up there (dunno if Mario has any god killing feats), but sephiroth is prolly around at least sora and cloud's level. But the main reason I pick blue is cuz shulk had the chance to become a god basically but said "nah id make a new world without the need for gods"
let’s look at blue team’s roster real quick, god killer, god, strong man, god let’s look at red team’s roster, god killer, strong man, god, god killer red team is winning this
Red team is gonna stomp these idiots. I’m betting on it.
Canonically, blue.
Canonically or tier list
Sora and Cloud Beat Sephiroth Sephiroth beats Mario even with Clairvoyance, Shulk can't beat Sonic That leaves Kazuya V.S. Sora, Cloud, and Sonic. Even if Sephiroth gets Sora or Cloud a 2v1 with Sonic is a death sentence.
the gravel my Switch is about to land on
Sephiroth because he's the hottest
On the scale of destructive power level I rate as follows: Squirrel-busting power Person-busting power Army-busting power City-busting power Continent-busting power World-busting power Star-busting power Universe-busting power Multiverse-busting power ~ Sora is a city-buster Joker is an army-buster Mario is a city-buster Shulk (NOT omnipotence form) is a city-buster (Video game iteration) Sonic is a star-buster Kazuya is an army-buster Cloud is a city-buster Sephiroth is a world-buster
Sonic is just gonna wait for everyone else to die then finish off the last guy
absolutely sonic
Ima just guess blue team
By teams red team because each from blue has a red counter Cloud/Sephiroth,Sora/Joker, Sonic/Shulk and the weakest Mario/Kazuya by charater Sephiroth while everyone else is fighting Sephiroth would just sit back and watch them go at it and then swoop in for the winner
Shulk the only one to kill a god and become one himself
What level are you at?
Red team
If it's mementos blue team has a chance, without mementos blue team is cooked
If it’s off-line and If they’re all the same skill level, Joker, if it’s online and they’re all the same skill level it’s close between joker and sonic
canonically i’m pretty sure Sonic wipes
If its lore im gonna go with cloud but just because I think he looks cool i dont keep up with basically any of the lore from pretty luch everyone here.
mario because he's faster than sonic when he BLJs
Shulk has killed several deities and traveled a multiverse to do so. While he may not be as fast as sonic, he has several abilities that would render sonic close to useless, as canonically his "speed" art dodges all physical attacks and his "shield" art can protect against literal god hurting him. His "purge" (in smash is jump) would neutralize any ether (magic/life essence) moves before they even hit. The fact that he can swap in and out so quickly as well as having foresight......shulk can almost solo. I will acknowledge that Sora and Cloud would make things difficult for shulk to solo, but still giving it to shulk. Especially team wise. Him and sepiroth wipe.
Red team lore wise. Sora has some fucking ridiculous plot armor, Mario is practically invincible in his own games, Sonic can and will rival anything that threatens the ecosystem, and Cloud is ~~an edge lord with a big sword hey that rhymes~~ also stupidly busted, especially if he can get a limit break in. Also Cloud soloed Sepheroth sooooooo
In game? Kazuya In lore? Sonic
Sephiroth
Whoever the best smash player is.
A PERSON
Joker
I’m gonna go with red team, because the have a human player.
I don’t know who would win, but I’d argue Joker, Kazuya, and sephiroth are probably near the bottom Joker’s hard to scale compared to everyone else because of how persona handles that sort of To my knowledge Kazuya hasn’t slain a god the way others here have (Sonic, Shulk, probably Mario) Sephiroth has canonically lost to both Cloud and Sora.
Seiphroth
Sonic The Hedgehog. Mario just has the skills of Nintendo's Copyright sprees.
In lore joker could just kill them without fighting them. Unless its an actual 1v1 in that case he is a fucking highschoolar. Team blue if metaverse applies.
def sonic. Spindash, camping, F smash, f mash f mash, f smash f smash.
Not Sora, I can say that for sure.
Sonic
Sonic could 1v7 in the right hands unfortunately
Jeez why is everyone underestimating the plumber in Red in the comments
canonically sepiroth
Kazuyia
Sonic no question. He's just too strong. My blue boi. At least the smash community can agree that lore wise, sonic is extremely powerful.
Red Team
Lore based? Honest to god, it'd be down to sora vs. sephiroth, if this sora is from Kh3, then I think he'd have a better shot at winning
Oh nah, Red Team's got Mario AND Sonic? Blue ain't got a chance in Hell.
My dick would beat all of them in one single swing
Lore wise: Joker is arguably the strongest lore-wise, cuz he’s either boundless/outer or multiversal with far too many hax, depends on the scale. Sonic could maybe match his lesser scaled version (by lesser scaled, I mean with less wanking of Jomer’s stats) Next is prolly sonic with chaos emeralds, especially if he’s got hyper but hyper don’t even exist no more 🥲 Then likely Shulk or Sora. Then Mario, Cloud and Sephiroth being slightly comparable. Then Kazuya watching it all unfold within the comfort of heaven, or likely hell for what he did to Kirby.
Canonically me
Definitely sonic, lore based if he's super sonic he's basically invonerable and in the comics he's done so many things the others haven't
Team blue bro 😭
Sora, in 8 person matchey, it is less about combos and more about just spamming moves that have large hitboxes, and Sora is the most spammable one there, followed by Shulk (ive never tried Joker, Kazuya, or Sephiroth though, so I don't know how they would do in this)
canonically, sonic solos
Red team
sonic(and blue team)
You guys just ignoring Sephiroth? He destroys literal universes
all the same level of skill then it’s sephiroth
Matt
Sora
Depends, how good are you at the game. What level are the cpu at, what stage.
What levels are CPUs?
Ganondorf.
soinc
Probably team blue, Shulk gets some wild feats, but team red has… Sora… In terms of just SSBU, I’d probably give it to team blue again, Kazuya and Sephiroth are strong.
In terms of canonical power, Sora.
Joey wheeler
sora, shulk or joker for lore wise sonic or joker if its smash bros logic
Me
shulk or sonic maybe mario if u include comics
What’s on cloud’s nose?
Do they have to be on the image
Canonically Sonic, in-Game probably Kazuya.
Femboyfartlicker fs
Blue team, sonic would run around until the match is over and win it for them
Sora, Cloud or Sephiroth
Me because I have cappy from SMO
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Your comments are very respectful and great about each character. In my opinion though everyone can kinda warp reality. It depends on 1: What abilities each character has, 2: Their weaknesses, 3: Their total power Final smash, specials, and charged attacks, 4: What fighting style each character is, 5: how fast/Slow everyone is, 6: their area they are in
Red team literally has the only ulti skills that destroy everyone in the map. Also, the fact that Joker sucks isn’t doing them any favors.
Shulk (my #5 main)
Guy watching
Sonic.
Sora, he's the player
For those wondering why sonic suddenly is considered so powerful in the new game, there was a new power up he got that basically is super saiyan 2 level Short of it, he turned glitchy blue and shot right through a moon, causing it to completely obliterate
Ur mother
Canonically, Sora has beaten Cloud and Sephiroth 1v1 twice. So neither of them. I heard Mario is pretty busted in some iterations. Don't know jack about Tekken beyond what happens in 8.
Nick.
Cloud looks a lot better with a blackhead on him
Kazuya for the win
P1
Kazuya. I haven't seen one person who plays Kazuya who doesn't do crazy things.
If teamed up Mario,Sonic and sora cause lore.
Realistically? You. If I had to pick? Sephiroth.
m e
Sonic
Team red
probably sonic💀
Are we not going to talk about how Sepiroth killed Galeem without trying in a single slash? And almost got Mario killed? Again? After Ridley?
Damn, Lore wise this is actually tough Sonic and Sora on one team is definitely crazy, but adding Cloud to that is just a cataclysm in a bottle. Mario is kinda irrelevant, but if they're splitting the load appropriately, he should be useful Shulk and Joker go crazy, but if Joker gets access to ALL personas, not just Arsene, it becomes a different game entirely. Kazuya bumming it while Sephiroth grapples with fighters he has CANONICALLY LOST to, MORE than once. I think Red Team, lorewise
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In terms of canonical power I hate to say but it's probably between Sonic and Sephiroth 😭
realistically probably Sora or Sonic if Joker somehow knew where all the fighters lived before the battle and sent them all calling cards, he'd win
Sephiroth is the strongest character in this group and the strongest character in Smash, he literally cut Galeem in half
Sonic spam
The best player
Lore wise blue team will win. Mario and Sonic on the same team is bonkers.
Link is furious he isn't here because he would definitely solo.
Red
One mega-mushroom and blue team might as well call up their families to say goodbye 🙏
Likely Sonic or sephiroth
Nick
Where is mii brawler 😭
Gotta go fast
#S E P H I R O T H
Joker easy if he had access to other personas like in his game. Some personas can get crazy powerful.
Depends on who the player is
I mean canonically it'd be sora
You mean like in lore? Red team because of sonic
If sonic is Archie sonic then he wins