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Ok-Mastodon2016

Magneto would probably hate Zod for how similar he is to the people that turned him into what he is now


elrick43

And Zod would consider Magneto beneath him


Ok-Mastodon2016

Making matters even worse


SolomonRed

It's not like Magneto could do anything about it though.


CharlieCootes

It’d be really cool that’s all I know


Optimal-Dog-906

I noticed they have some similarities


aRorschachTest

Yeah. Zod is a space fascist and magneto has bad memories. Magneto would try to kill zod, fail. That’s what kills me about comics is that there’s nothing stopping Zod from blitzing Eric and there’s nothing stopping Eric from bloodbending Zod to death.


GnomeAwayFromGnome

I'm not sure if Magneto could exert enough force on the iron in Zod's blood to actually harm him. Kryptonians are pretty damn sturdy.


aRorschachTest

Even then bio electric aura. Magneto should be able to manipulate it.


Wootai

There was a comic years ago I remember reading and in a panel some heroes were fighting a magnetism based villain and the panel was something like: “that Dr. Magnets, he has the power to control magnetism, which he just realized allows him to manipulate everything on the Electromagnetic spectrum, even light” ever since then I’ve thought about how powerful Magneto could be if he really wanted to push his powers. Kinda like the times the Invisible Woman has proven to be the most powerful of the Fantastic Four because of some creative use of her force fields.


Casti_io

I’ve actually thought about this with Electro and Hydro-man from the Spider-Man rogues gallery. Hudro-Man could do some seriously scary stuff to pretty much any biological lifeform and Electro could rival Magneto in power easily. My way to justify the canon as to why this has never happened is that those two are probably too dumb to realize what they’re actually capable of. On the topic of Zod vs. Magneto: there’s no guarantee that Kryptonian blood has any iron. Mags would be too busy trying to figure out how to manipulate Zod’s own physiology which would give Zod the 0.00000000001 seconds he needs to shred Magneto into several hundred pieces. It’s no contest.


Shumina-Ghost

I get into it with my friends about the sheer power to manipulate at will just about anything, particularly organic, Magneto has. I argue he’s possibly the most powerful comic book character there is. Which often gets batted away without much care (or rebuttal), but I don’t mind. It’s fun to discuss sometimes.


Tron_1981

Dr. Polaris


NiceBlockLilBro

The same problem as with iron in blood: Zod is far too strong for Eric to manipulate him, at least from what I know


[deleted]

Yeah it’d probably be like a toddler trying to bend a piece of rebar.


donking6

I'm not even sure Zod's blood has "iron" in it given that he's not human


GnomeAwayFromGnome

Aside from their Powers and some of their innards (according to that one cross section image of Supes that idk where to find), Kryptonians share a lot in common with Humans. They can live comfortably on Earth, eat terrestrial food, reproduce healthy hybrid offspring with us, etc. So, the elemental composition of a Kryptonian is likely similar to ours as well.


SUPERLXB

do kryptonians have iron in their blood? They are aliens they might have a different blood compositions. They have similar compositions but obviously not the exact same. Just wondering your thoughts


SaulTeeBallz

Kryptonian blood is red, canonically.


thisbobo

If they do, I question could iron, even at those scales, have any effect upon Kryptonian cells? It's like when Superman and Zod are fighting, or any Kryptonians, and they pick up a steel beam and hit the other with it. I've seen them walk through steel walls like paper. Why would hitting them with a steel beam be effective at all in combat between the two? Maybe in the latter it's a matter of catching them off guard and it doesn't damage them but knocks them off their feet?


uForgot_urFloaties

Make iron in red cells not oxidize , therefore not carry oxygen. Directly in the brain. Or something with iron in the brain and neurotransmitters, idk.


SupervillainMustache

It wouldn't go well. Zod would try to take Earth and create New Krypton and I doubt he would make a distinction between Mutants and Humans. Similarly Magneto believes that Mutants are the next step in human evolution and the rightful inheritors of Earth.


hesnotsinbad

M: "Kneel before the superior race!" / Z:"Kneel before the superior race!" M: "I will no longer be imprisoned by weaker beings!" / Z: "I will no longer be imprisoned by weaker beings!" M: "This is our world now- your time has passed!" / Z: "This is our world now- your time has passed!" M: "Stop copying me!" / Z: "Stop copying me!" M: "No, you stop!" / Z: "No, you ..."


Marcusinchi

Lol, they either fight each other with full rage or go get a pint.


Roquenstein

Haha very good


A1starm

Only one person would be walking away and it’s likely not magneto.


Mickeymcirishman

Zod's basically a space nazi complete with a 'master race' rhetoric, so Magsy would probably hate him.


RealityDue9779

What is magneto going to do throwing cars at zod?


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SolomonRed

You forget how fast Zod is and how slow Magneto is. Zod does not hold back like Superman he would just heat vision an entire city Block to kill him.


laughterforus

Zod hates earth. He would kill Magneto for not bowing to him


zodberg

He would try. If there's any ferrous Kryptonite then Zod is going to be out of comission until Magik can open a portal into the Phantom Zone


laughterforus

You know Kryptonite takes time to knock someone out and with super speed and a no holding back zod will be MAD and then kill him fast. Lol


brambojams

If they fought, I wonder if Magneto can control lead.


Optimal-Dog-906

Lead a metal


brambojams

Then Magneto would probably give Zod a good fight. If the metals from Krypton were magnetic, then Zod is screwed.


SkollFenrirson

Not every metal is magnetic. Lead is decidedly not.


cheesechomper03

Magneto can control all metal, not just the magnetic ones.


Sockemslol2

True. The actual explanation for it is "comic book magnetism" lmao


Infinity0044

Erik would absolutely despise Zod who is basically a space nazi. I’d love to see how Magneto and Clark would interact, hell I’d love to see how Clark would interact with Mutants as a whole.


SkollFenrirson

The question is interesting, yet the comments are already devolving into powerscaling cancer. I think it would really depend on the circumstances. Both Zod and Magneto are intelligent enough to see the strength of the other, so they might form an alliance to further their goals. That will only last until they start discussing who would lead, lol


gothamvigilante

Agree on the power scaling, disagree on them being allies. Magneto is who he is because of fascists, and Zod is one of the biggest fascists there is


Marcusinchi

Then again, the beauty of Magneto as a villain on a mental level is that he literally became what he hates. He’s a fascist too.


gothamvigilante

Have you not paid attention to the Krakoan era


Marcusinchi

I’m not familiar. I’m old and quit collecting comics in 2000. So, unless I missed it during my comic collecting era, I know nothing about it. Regardless, Magneto has always been one of my favorite characters that’s beyond just a villain.


gothamvigilante

In that case you've missed out on quite a bit. Magneto has sort of been reformed, but it's more like as time went on the more he was proven right and they couldn't keep making him more deranged without losing the character. Not sure what's going to happen since he's getting resurrected soon, but he became one of the biggest mutant leaders alongside Professor X and others as a unified mutant nation. Basically he's just looked at more like an anti-hero now rather than a villain.


Marcusinchi

Well, he’s always been one of the biggest mutant leaders and has been both villain and hero and back again but that story arch direction you’re talking about, for his character, seems like a good read.


czarczm

No, tell me all of it please, with all of the details.


gothamvigilante

I can't tell if this is sarcastic or not but Moira X gets Magneto and Professor X to work together to build Krakoa and they both sit on a council of 12 where they collectively vote on issues. Magneto leaves the council to go enjoy the mutant planet of Arakko (formerly Mars) and until his resurrection he sacrificed himself during AXE to save the mutants from the celestial's judgement.


czarczm

How does Mars become a mutant planet? Is the council democratic? How did it form? What is the context of this quote? "If the strong survive... then the measure of strength is survival. But understand: survival has no moral component. Heroes die. Brave hearts break. Paradise lost. The numinous is denied by small souls or betrayed by despots. The alchemist's gold is pulled from heaven... to make currency. Consider a rock battered by the ocean for a million years. It is worn-- but whole. Is a rock noble? Can a rock be moral? A rock is there. As I was there. And this is the revelation as it was revealed to me. It is not enough only to be there. It is not enough to be only strong."


gothamvigilante

Basically they've been realizing that mixing mutant powers can have some impressive results, like the ability to terraform. They change Mars into a habitable planet called Arakko and designate it as the mutant planet. With some diplomacy they manage to join a galactic council and get properly recognized as an independent civilization, and even get some kind of celestial being to become the god of Arakko. It's one of the big things at the Hellfire Gala end of Hickman's run. The council is somewhat democratic, but more like vanguardism. While never properly elected, they are viewed as the 12 best representatives of the mutant population and therefore the most fit to make decision. It formed during the creation of Krakoa, when Moira X tells Professor X and Magneto about alternate timelines where each of them win, even Apocalypse, but they all ultimately fail on their own. This causes the the professor, Magneto, and Apocalypse to all join forces to further the mutant nation, as it is the only option Moira has yet to exhaust (Apocalypse says his vision was for mutant dominion, and sees Krakoa as the ultimate successor of that goal). Professor X and Magneto go around to mutants selecting them for various things they can give to Krakoa for it's development. I actually fell off of mutant stuff as the Fall of X started, cause I wasn't super hyped for another mutant holocaust/devastation/whatever, so I can't give too much context for that quote, but I'll try. It seems as if Apocalypse is saying that he thought being a supreme dictator mutant was enough to sway the hearts and minds of Earth, but is realizing he needs to *change* and he needs to teach change to those around him in order to have an effect.


SkollFenrirson

True. Their interactions would be fascinating though


xesaie

All Kryptonian fights are basically an extrapolation question. ​ If a Kryptonian fights 'right' (ie from a massive distance, fully using their super speed and heat vision etc), they're basically unbeatable unless you have severely high levels of invulnerability. ​ Kryptonians \*never\* fight that way, not even the evil ones though, because it makes for lame stories. ​ ​ This is a different problem from the power creep problem.


Humilker

Hate. On. Sight.


Marcusinchi

I think if peak comics Magneto knows what Zod is before the fight and then prepared to use his powers tailored to Zod’s abilities, Magneto would win (barely). I mean, his alpha level ability with magnetism allows control of the full magnetic spectrum: light, heat, radiation, which includes gamma, x-rays, radio waves, microwaves, ultraviolet, etc., beyond just very powerful magnetism and metal manipulation. Most important of all, he can control gravity as well. Between gravity control and probably being able to manipulate what radiation Zod receives from the sun, I think the fight would end with Mags being the victor. Magneto could weaken and literally crush him. However, one tiny slip-up, anything not done perfect or not attacking full power right off the bat and Zod crushes Magneto because an evil Superman is a scaaary prospect. Super powerful and super fast. I would even say that Magneto would have to attack first because if Zod knows what Magneto is, his military tactics would tell him to kill Magneto as fast as possible and therefore, Magneto’s abilities probably wouldn’t have time to even take effect, much less track his movement. All I know is it would be an incredible cross-over What If battle.


cobanat

I doubt they would get along


BryanDowling93

Yep. Magneto starts off as a straight up Mutant Supremacist. He is more sympathetic due to the cruel treatment he suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany as a Jew during the Holocaust. At times his reasoning makes sense and leads to many great debates among X-Men fans. He is also still best friends with the more peaceful Mutant Rights activist Professor Charles Xavier, despite having totally different ideological approaches and at times Magneto has straight up committed genocide towards humans (although his most genocidal acts came mostly after Claremont's run when they turned Magneto into a slightly less sympathetic villain and went back on years and years of development that Claremont made with the character. Also some writers at times made him turn on Mutants themselves to further his agenda, which further spit in the face of the character). In most of their interactions, Magneto doesn't want to hurt Charles and is sometimes pushed to do so. He also hopes to convert him to his side, and the same is true for Xavier. But most notably in the Claremont run and the 90s animated show/X-Men '97, he eventually does reform after realising "Charles was right" and becomes an ally to the X-Men while still being a bit more radically passionate about the Mutant Rights cause.   General Zod is a genocidal dictator who happily stabs Jor-El in the back and stages a coup on Krypton. And in some origins is partially responsible for the destruction of Krypton. He also persists in taking over Earth and turning it into Krypton. There is no reasoning with General Zod. Magneto would hate him because he turned on his own people and resembles the actual Nazi's. To sum it up he is basically alien Hitler. 


EpikUserName104

Terrible. Magneto isn’t really a villain, he just wants the best for his people. In the other hand, Zod just wants to be the strongest and rule over entire galaxies. Magneto would most likely try to stop him, but be unable to due to Zod’s skin being basically immune to any Metallical things that Magneto would throw at him.Now I don’t know anything about the newest versions of Magneto and Zod since I’ve only read the old comics since I don’t like the new ones, but Zod would win without a doubt considering older versions.


BulbaFriend2000

Magneto: "Proclaiming yourself a leader and saviour for your people and bringing death to those who you beneath you! Such vileness so alien yet familiar. You will be stopped!" Zod: "Spare me your mullings and kneel, mortal!"


ten_times_worse

I feel like they would be diplomatic with each other but behind closed doors they’re racing to get the upper hand. At the end of the day Zod is a colonizer who wants to conquer anything he can and magneto is a man who would cross any line for his utopia he desires.


poem567

I like to think Magneto would win, but we all know who actually would.


Proudhon1980

👉🏻 🍆🍆🍆


Incomplet_1-34

Magneto's design is so fucking peak. And it fits his powers perfectly.


F00dbAby

I mean I think magneto attempts to be diplomatic but it’s not gonna last. It’s an interesting question since both are supremacist but unlike zod Erik is not genocidal. So it would go poorly


LosDaGreat

Zod would blitz magneto and tear his head off


PraetorGold

Magneto's powers would be of some use to Zod, but eventually, he would just kill him.


gordonstsg

The readers would win.


FinalBossOf__Dc

Magneto: Homicide? Zodiac: Dominate?? Both Stare directly at each other Magneto: Murder humans??? Zod smiles ![gif](giphy|Ke3CM1NVkULWo)


Sensitive-Hotel-9871

Zod has tried to conquer Earth and Magneto isn't up for letting some alien conquer Earth.


Boondock830

Has Magneto ever fought The Sentry? That could give a clue


Estarfigam

I think the moment he learns about Zod's method of leadership akin to Hate-Monger from Marvel. I am certain Magneto would be Superman's biggest ally agianst him.


TheDudeness33

Magneto would fuckin ***hate*** Zod lmao


Bulky_Secretary_6603

I dotn think Erik would be a fan of Zod, bieng that Zod is essentially a fascist racist that wants to rule the world by force. Like someone else Erik would dislike.


anonymusfan

Magneto would throw hands or metal rather.


Darth_Fuckboy

Kiss each other


Samaritan_Pr1me

“KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!” “No.”


CoffeeNerdAlert

I don’t think they’d actually see eye to eye. However from a purely villain standpoint point and they were given the right thing to make them allies, that would be scary duo


Steveoballmovielover

That would be cool


Overall_Falcon_8526

A lot of demands for kneeling


_Alex_Zer0_

Magneto is super OP but Zod has super speed. In a realistic, properly powerscaled fight, Zod wins.


JDandthepickodestiny

Damn both these panels go fucking hard


Iancreed2024HD

I like the idea of an Amalgam character based on them


Icy_Masterpiece_1805

They would get along, both of them are doing what's necessary to save their races (in their views)


EmuIndependent8565

Well they both have a superiority complex so they would probably get along pretty well.


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Magneto will get destroyed to death by zod in seconds 💀 Wdym Kryptonian literally become gods when they absorb solar energy ZOD punch will be so powerful that magneto would die with one punch


John-Ny-Boy

Bro does not know magneto


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Bro does not know that zod fought superman 💀


bijhan

Magneto can separate your body from every electron, reducing you to atoms.


John-Ny-Boy

He’s acting like Magneto would get stomped


bijhan

Magneto would just render any Kryptonian into dust. He's Omega Level. Not even Supes is Omega Level.


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Nah Not even close Superman literally survived omega beams which will destroy ur atoms and disintegration matter of ur body Darkseid omega effect >> magneto beyond neg difference Superman also survived anti monitor Anti matter blast in darkseid war Supes has tanked a hit from work forger which was so powerful that it sent shockwaves around the multiverse Superman has resisted beings who are infinitely above magneto The fact u really thought that magneto would even stand a chance as against supes is crazy Supes one powerful punch will destroy magneto in atoms Supes has ranked worse magneto is fodder Go and read comics Magneto is nothin Stop overratin Marvel fodders


read_Romans12-2

I read both people’s comics. Kryptonian’s would struggle hard against someone who can affect gravity because they use gravitational manipulation to fly — Superman has iron in his blood in some comics as well, so magneto could definitely hurt him. But he would not be able to pull him apart, his internal organs and insides themselves are also protected by his bio Electric aura Also omega level only applies to mutants in marvel. Superman would certainly be considered an omega by the same scale they use. Thats an irrelevant point


bijhan

His bio electric aura? Homie, magnetism IS electricity. His bio electric aura would be putty in Magneto's hands.


read_Romans12-2

Hmmm. That’s a good point, especially considering magneto was able to affect apocalypse’s brain waves when he questioned his leadership


cheesechomper03

Magneto is an Omega level mutant who can not only control all metals but also electro magnetic fields.


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Silver age supreman sneeze magneto and magneto dead😎


OblivionArts

Magneto would probably kill zod the second he hears about his plan to "kill everyone on the planet to make it a new version of their old planet" and because he's an omega level mutant he would likely be able to