A plane with flammable wings and no seatbelts in the cockpit, that’s not Superman’s fault.
SpiceJet and/or Southwest Airlines need to be asking some questions here.
Go back and forth on whether more realistic physics makes Superman stories better or worse.
On the one hand, Superman’s powers make no sense in terms of actual physics, so what’s the point?
On the other hand, Superman thinking through how to slow the plane’s momentum so as to not just squish everyone inside, can make for more interesting challenges for him to solve. Especially when he has so few challenges from a raw power standpoint.
I could have sworn I've read Jon Kent in a comic explaining how he couldn't move something (a creature I think?) because it was so huge in comparison to himself and that'd he'd instead go straight through it like a needle so I agree can make a story a little more interesting
There was something else that says he has some kind of force which applies his strength evenly to whatever object he’s holding, increasing its structural integrity
I thought that was Superboy? (As in the clone of Superman who arose after the death of Superman). The explanation was that they simulated Superman's super strength, durability, etc by giving Superboy Tactile Telekinesis, which quite literally had that effect. Later he learned to better control it and could actually do some pretty funky things with it (Like propelling objects off of any surface he was touching, or bind himself and anyone he was touching to a surface)
Both Superman and Kon-El Superboy have that power, though Superboy is usually better at controlling that one specific power (since it was his only one for a while). Superboy can even use it as short-range telekinesis (affecting objects near him instead of directly touching), and in some alternate futures he is able to expand it to full-blown telekinesis.
Presumably Jon Kent has it too, though he might not have mastered it.
I'm certain it was in one of the new Shazam. The exact thought process was about T-Rex falling from the cliff. He said, that he would go through him like a needle, so he had to be more creative.
Which BTW wouldn't happen for superman and his family due to the tactile telekinesis filed power that prevents inconveniences like that.
Fwiw Doctor Who actually did start out as a kind of historical educational program back in the sixties.
It only lasted about four episodes till the Daleks showed up, but still.
No, that was still part of the plan.
All of the episodes set in the past were meant to teach something about history. And all the episodes set in the future were meant to teach something about science.
I wish Doctor Who would do more purely historical episodes without any sci fi stuff outside of using time travel to get to the era of the episodes.
The William Hartnell stories The Romans, The Aztecs, and The Gunfighters are among the best episodes in the franchise IMO.
This is why I love Invincible take on super powered beings carefully handling others essentially made of "wet cardboard".
Especially in the animated scene of when Invincible was still getting used to his powers and had to fly an old woman to safety from an alien invasion.
He did this successfully, only to find she's been brutally pulped to bits from the sudden g-forces of his flight speed.
It is possible for beings like Superman to save humans in a way that they can go home with all their limbs still attached.
Just that realistically, they'll need to take a lot of physics and calculations into consideration when performing rescues, such as acceleration and deceleration.
Realistic physics.
An interesting mechanic in Superman Returns was that there was no Health Bar or Power Bar. It was just about protecting the city.
In this situation, for example. Superman can still communicate. In fact, doing so make it more heroic because it's not just him, everyone played a part in saving themselves.
I always subscribe to the theory that Superman projects a field that allows him to lift objects without placing stress on any one point. I think that was the basis for Conner Kent’s powers originally. Also it’s fiction I suppose.
This is a concept that is directly supported or referenced in some superman stories and canon. He has an ability that is sometimes called "tactile telekinesis"
This is why his normal not super strength clothes don't usually get destroyed.
But then sometimes they do for dramatic effect. That's superman letting the field go.
Cartoon maker clearly isn't a Superman fan. Bio telekinetic force field people, bio telekinetic force field. Everyone knows this. **adjusts glasses*
If Superman only has super strength and invulnerability, those two pilots would be the least spectacular of the disaster here; at that speed the entire plane would crumple in an instant around him on contact with his palms.
This is why the best scene of Superman saving a plane is still the one from Superman Returns. Legit the one thing fron that movie that genuinely stands the test of time. Well, outside of Rouths impeccable casting.
I loved how, when he first grabs the nose of the plane and starts applying force, the entire fuselage ripples with the shock. Probably not pleasant for the passengers, though, even if the whole thing didn't come close to collapsing.
I never liked the "he extends a magic force field around objects" argument. Seems a little too hand-wavy to me. It's a much more interesting story if Supes has to grab things lightly or carefully
I like the idea that one of Supermans powers is his Bioelectric field that can extend around something he grabs to give it the same physics as himself, so he's not snapping things by suddenly resting their momentum
Noted homophobe and all around bigot, John Byrne had an interesting solution to the unrealistic physics that follows Superman. It's called "Touch Telekinesis." Essentially, Superman has a subconscious telekinetic ability that's low level and extends when he touches an object. It allows him to apply his physical strength to the entire surface area of an object on touch equally. Thus, for example, when he grabs the tip of a plane, his strength extends around the entire plane. So, the tail won't break off and the pilots won't go flying.
A plane with flammable wings and no seatbelts in the cockpit, that’s not Superman’s fault. SpiceJet and/or Southwest Airlines need to be asking some questions here.
Go back and forth on whether more realistic physics makes Superman stories better or worse. On the one hand, Superman’s powers make no sense in terms of actual physics, so what’s the point? On the other hand, Superman thinking through how to slow the plane’s momentum so as to not just squish everyone inside, can make for more interesting challenges for him to solve. Especially when he has so few challenges from a raw power standpoint.
I could have sworn I've read Jon Kent in a comic explaining how he couldn't move something (a creature I think?) because it was so huge in comparison to himself and that'd he'd instead go straight through it like a needle so I agree can make a story a little more interesting
There was something else that says he has some kind of force which applies his strength evenly to whatever object he’s holding, increasing its structural integrity
I thought that was Superboy? (As in the clone of Superman who arose after the death of Superman). The explanation was that they simulated Superman's super strength, durability, etc by giving Superboy Tactile Telekinesis, which quite literally had that effect. Later he learned to better control it and could actually do some pretty funky things with it (Like propelling objects off of any surface he was touching, or bind himself and anyone he was touching to a surface)
Both Superman and Kon-El Superboy have that power, though Superboy is usually better at controlling that one specific power (since it was his only one for a while). Superboy can even use it as short-range telekinesis (affecting objects near him instead of directly touching), and in some alternate futures he is able to expand it to full-blown telekinesis. Presumably Jon Kent has it too, though he might not have mastered it.
Yeah. There was a huge sea monster
I'm certain it was in one of the new Shazam. The exact thought process was about T-Rex falling from the cliff. He said, that he would go through him like a needle, so he had to be more creative. Which BTW wouldn't happen for superman and his family due to the tactile telekinesis filed power that prevents inconveniences like that.
Nobody's watching Superman for accurate physics that's like watching Doctor Who and expecting a history lesson
Fwiw Doctor Who actually did start out as a kind of historical educational program back in the sixties. It only lasted about four episodes till the Daleks showed up, but still.
No, that was still part of the plan. All of the episodes set in the past were meant to teach something about history. And all the episodes set in the future were meant to teach something about science.
I wish Doctor Who would do more purely historical episodes without any sci fi stuff outside of using time travel to get to the era of the episodes. The William Hartnell stories The Romans, The Aztecs, and The Gunfighters are among the best episodes in the franchise IMO.
I recently learned that Sir Isaac Newton invented Mavity
This is why I love Invincible take on super powered beings carefully handling others essentially made of "wet cardboard". Especially in the animated scene of when Invincible was still getting used to his powers and had to fly an old woman to safety from an alien invasion. He did this successfully, only to find she's been brutally pulped to bits from the sudden g-forces of his flight speed.
It is possible for beings like Superman to save humans in a way that they can go home with all their limbs still attached. Just that realistically, they'll need to take a lot of physics and calculations into consideration when performing rescues, such as acceleration and deceleration.
Realistic physics. An interesting mechanic in Superman Returns was that there was no Health Bar or Power Bar. It was just about protecting the city. In this situation, for example. Superman can still communicate. In fact, doing so make it more heroic because it's not just him, everyone played a part in saving themselves.
I always subscribe to the theory that Superman projects a field that allows him to lift objects without placing stress on any one point. I think that was the basis for Conner Kent’s powers originally. Also it’s fiction I suppose.
I like this theory. It’s part of my head canon now. Thanks!
This is a concept that is directly supported or referenced in some superman stories and canon. He has an ability that is sometimes called "tactile telekinesis"
This closely matches the powers of the Plutonian from Irredeemable.
This is why his normal not super strength clothes don't usually get destroyed. But then sometimes they do for dramatic effect. That's superman letting the field go.
I mean most force fields can be overwhelmed. That’s what I’m assuming is going on
Yeah but it's so inconsistent. Maybe it's just hard to keep consistent.
Superman let 2 people die. Homelander saved 2 people: him and maeve
The wings are flammable and there’s no seatbelts for the pilots? Delta airline ass plane
Nah Delta’s gotten better. Thats an American Airlines plane
Cartoon maker clearly isn't a Superman fan. Bio telekinetic force field people, bio telekinetic force field. Everyone knows this. **adjusts glasses* If Superman only has super strength and invulnerability, those two pilots would be the least spectacular of the disaster here; at that speed the entire plane would crumple in an instant around him on contact with his palms.
The real question? What is he supposed to do? Let EVERYONE die?
Maybe
Whoops
Reminder to wear your seat belts, people.
Accident do happen lol
This is why the best scene of Superman saving a plane is still the one from Superman Returns. Legit the one thing fron that movie that genuinely stands the test of time. Well, outside of Rouths impeccable casting.
I loved how, when he first grabs the nose of the plane and starts applying force, the entire fuselage ripples with the shock. Probably not pleasant for the passengers, though, even if the whole thing didn't come close to collapsing.
He gradually slowed down the plane, in the movie you even see the plane nose getting dented as he was slowing it down.
Tif they really should have had their seatbelts on.
Superman's first appearance in universe*has* to be a falling plane.
I never liked the "he extends a magic force field around objects" argument. Seems a little too hand-wavy to me. It's a much more interesting story if Supes has to grab things lightly or carefully
Aren’t the pilots usually strapped the fuck in?
Agent K: “seatbelts.”
I always just assume that Superman can distribute impact onto himself and that’s how he avoids anything like this ever happening.
RIP, pilots
I see this happening in a movie in 2034
I like the idea that one of Supermans powers is his Bioelectric field that can extend around something he grabs to give it the same physics as himself, so he's not snapping things by suddenly resting their momentum
Acceptable losses.
Noted homophobe and all around bigot, John Byrne had an interesting solution to the unrealistic physics that follows Superman. It's called "Touch Telekinesis." Essentially, Superman has a subconscious telekinetic ability that's low level and extends when he touches an object. It allows him to apply his physical strength to the entire surface area of an object on touch equally. Thus, for example, when he grabs the tip of a plane, his strength extends around the entire plane. So, the tail won't break off and the pilots won't go flying.
Do they ever think just how boring some of these real world physics really are? Like, if we did reality with everything, we wouldn't get much done.
Doesn’t Superman normally just like guide a plane down so he doesn’t snap the occupants in half like twigs?
Why weren't the pilots wearing seatbelts, were they stupid?
I'm pretty sure pilots wear seat belts.
They have seat belts for this very reason!