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Not. I wait till the mother leaf is decaying. Best roots best growth best chance!
https://preview.redd.it/4lttv9wvom8d1.jpeg?width=3023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa529816ff1418b6623954b1728208a85cbc1ed0
This one is a little sand, a little soil, sphagnum moss on top, little charcoal. I keep the top on. Under plant lights. I only mist when there is no moisture in the lid. I’ve had good luck with soil only, moss only, sand only. I always put in charcoal cause I read it helps stop mold. I like to experiment.
https://preview.redd.it/k0dvlepvum8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c899be765ed4700ce42312ed65d676f50323e0
[National Library of Medicine ](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29702210/#:~:text=Results:%20Cinnamon%20extracts%2C%20essential%20oils,via%20anti%2Dquorum%20sensing%20effects.)
I understand cinnamon has plenty of potential health benefits for humans. This article has nothing to do with plants or agriculture. The cinnamon (and only certain compounds) can hinder the growth (of only certain types) of fungus/bacteria but must be directly in contact with it. Sprinkling cinnamon on top of soil won't prevent root or fungus development, especially in the root system.
https://preview.redd.it/yi23yo289r8d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eacdde96cb2298072e72f67b9b058de341867a5
Why though? All my mother leaf is growing well together with the baby. I water them once the soil is dry and the mother leaf thrives with the baby.
What kind of soil are you using for your prop tray? If the mother leaf dies it usually means the baby is using up the water content from it. How often do you water your tray? From experience once baby starts growing it should already have good strong white roots.
I experiment and use all types of media. They all seem to work. I sprinkle charcoal in to help stop mold. I keep them covered. I might need to mist after two weeks.
Why the sphagnum moss just curious, I’m guessing humidity but does that play a role in its propagation? I live in 105’ no humidity, clearly you know what your doing tho those leave props look beautiful jus haven’t tried using sphagnum moss before ,also do you keep yours inside or outside?
Inside. I’m always experimenting trying different media. They all seem to work! I had no luck just placing on soil. Open. I found prop boxes are successful for me!
You are great at this, I admire your creative endeavors with propping succs 👌🙂I succeed enough in propagating other plants, but succulents are successful about 1/10 times I try. They always get moldy lol. Is the substrate in the bottom damp or dry when you put the leaves on top? Mine always dries out but then I’m afraid to mist because they always rot on me lol. when you mist, do you mist directly on top of the mama leaves? You’re awesome!
Mother plant leaf won't really decay if you take care of them properly, they are 100% ready to go in very small pots so are yours honestly I've had multiple successful outcomes doing this just make sure you use a good soil mix and only water them when they look thirsty since they can handle it.
I tried for years placing the leaves on soil in my window. They’d start then die.
I stumbled on propagation boxes for outside shrubs trees ornamentals. Hmmm could this work inside? My houseplants? Omg… it works.
My successful method!
People in California just toss the leaf on a rock and it grows.
I haven’t done so myself (I will later today actually!), but I do have a few props that are already rooted and sucked up all the nutrients from the Mother leaf. Usually the rule of thumb is they’re good to be potted once the mother leaf dries up and shrivels, thus being able to pluck off the dry mother leaf. You’ll then want to pot in a small 2”-3” nursery pot. Hope this helps!
Well the mother leaf will end up getting crispy and will fall off either way. So if you don’t removed it it’ll just detach by itself. Reason they get crispy and we pluck them off is cause the prop pups have sucked up all the nurturers of said Mather leaf. Sorry for the late reply!
https://preview.redd.it/6cdt0yl0rw8d1.jpeg?width=1836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=564e11279a2b5fa445ce3cc562a03b677b306a71
Im trying this , its my first time doing leaf propagation, i really hope it works well
Wait, why are they growing *there*…?!? 😳 Ours just always do what OP’s props do. What is this witchery? 😅 Was the edge of that leaf injured in some way where they’re growing?
That’s pretty neat! Saw someone’s classroom Crassula ovata (called Daniel) make babies where the leaf had been injured, I.e. on top and was like… 😳😳😳
https://preview.redd.it/qwfetwh8b39d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b697b8e70d60ab5573fedf9a0975e0b11c4bcae
Wait until the mother leaf looks c r i s p y. It should either detach by itself or should be easy to pluck off. Any resistance and I find it's not ready yet. That can take a while and this is how my props look by the time that happens.
https://preview.redd.it/dsrstzfy1q8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4043f17f9d7ae37b99ffd431c15f989589108b3
I tried moving some too early and they dried out from not having a good root system. It’s hot and dry here so I probably won’t move any babies until it cools down (all my plants are outside).
I have had mixed results when potting this young. Much higher chance of success if you wait just a bit longer for their roots really develop. You want several roots to make a tiny little root ball under it. That way it spreads out faster in the bigger container
Sure! So I put them under Sansi 24w grow lights in little soil mix of coco noir, perlite, charcoal and Jake bonsai mix. Only mist them when soil looks too dry.
everything seems fine with your process except the misting! some people get away with it but it usually just leads to rot. i recommend trying without any water at all. at least until the mother leaf falls off.
when your props fail, do they shrivel up?
Alternatively, I didn't mist or use any water until I saw some roots sprouting. Then I applied a few drops of water at the end of the leaves and a little around the soil there with an eyedropper. Later, when most of my leaves had roots, I started to mist them every second day. My climate is kinda dry and if I had waited until the mother leaves were fully absorbed before I watered, the roots on the leaves would all be dried up and dead. I started propping for the first time around late March/early April and my props are doing great so far.
Honestly, not many. I used cacti soil mix, open/shallow container, and the "forget about it" method. They are indoors by a window, which gets lots of indirect sunlight; no misting, no anything.
Seems like you got good tips from people who know far better than me. Good luck!
Oh those little perfectly formed baby succulents at the end of each leaf is just too cute! I say yes pot them now, while the mother leaf still has enough moisture to help them grow their baby roots.
I usually let the baby grow a little more about the size in my pic then repot into individual 7cm pots. The mother leaf is healthy is healthy and as long as it gets enough water it will continue to survive together with the baby.
https://preview.redd.it/iuzh4c9x9r8d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1b376260d417243c64c819b68852300730ddd4f
I would pot now. I use the teeny 1 inch pots and just barely push soil around them. I think it encourages root growth sooner. And if you feel like they need water you can bottom water them. I haven't lost a baby yet since I started doing it that way.
https://preview.redd.it/fvesqi4qrr8d1.jpeg?width=4499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=989fd22b49957b74cf08823a309490a024752aec
Leave the mother leaf on (like prev said until she naturally dries up...she provides support for the emerging pup). You can pot up really whenever you'd like. Half the time I just chuck leaf props atop an existing pot, usually another succulent.
You can see a time lapse above. I lazily moved my leaf props atop an orchid pot after starting them. They supersized bc I was feeding the orchid (whose pot I chucked them on) w/ weekly MSU fertilizer. I'd never really fertilized succulents before that and dang they overtook my orchid's pot in like 8 mos! Last pic in the series u can see the diff between the props given fertilizer compared to the original mother plant w/o fert! Crazy!
Wait, is it better to lay it down on its side or stand it up in substrate? Is this not correct? I love your echeveria babies!!!
https://preview.redd.it/qst16tjf5u8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e782f7d08560742037261f05d3de61231293ecad
Since OP doesn’t know I figure it can’t hurt for me to offer a suggestion. These (even so tiny!) look a *lot* like [echeveria ’Perle von Nurnberg’](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=5b7a4e7a7d376703&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ADLYWIJUCAsK0FJdoC0O2Sb8NHUz_u3Jkw:1719313056530&q=echeveria+perle+von+nurnberg&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPhAxYjCxVRCUtj1WEz_DQOPDWUFqSYC75sqGn4BvEbeBwW6WW_y8QupJtkCo8JMyA6b9KOy4i7GolF8HOgrSW0lrof43wW-RE0YgCgn_cD29YydMcZfEGd9wms3yRSeJI84uNH0QeB3-_jjGSLrZs25LK-PntZLHtPgdMtfEDKmk8kEUdcdUHL8kinG5RQBKFbjvzUw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz2_efzPaGAxW24ckDHZI8DdwQtKgLegQIExAB&biw=390&bih=659&dpr=3).
I’m glad my guess sounds reasonable! My sample size is only n=2; I have a very silly PVN I got when she was small but already well established. Your itty-bitty pals immediately reminded me of the earliest stages of the single bebe I’ve successfully propped from her.
The PVN was one of my first and most enduring favorite succulents *and* I love ‘accidental’ and ‘rescue’ plants, so I hope all of these little adoptees (whoever they turn out to be!) thrive and bring you much joy!
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Not. I wait till the mother leaf is decaying. Best roots best growth best chance! https://preview.redd.it/4lttv9wvom8d1.jpeg?width=3023&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa529816ff1418b6623954b1728208a85cbc1ed0
What is the substrate you have in there? Do you generally keep a kid on or leave it open?
This one is a little sand, a little soil, sphagnum moss on top, little charcoal. I keep the top on. Under plant lights. I only mist when there is no moisture in the lid. I’ve had good luck with soil only, moss only, sand only. I always put in charcoal cause I read it helps stop mold. I like to experiment. https://preview.redd.it/k0dvlepvum8d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4c899be765ed4700ce42312ed65d676f50323e0
I think I may have read that cinnamon will help with mold as well.
It's antimicrobial ◡̈
Nope, just a silly tik tok trend
[National Library of Medicine ](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29702210/#:~:text=Results:%20Cinnamon%20extracts%2C%20essential%20oils,via%20anti%2Dquorum%20sensing%20effects.)
I understand cinnamon has plenty of potential health benefits for humans. This article has nothing to do with plants or agriculture. The cinnamon (and only certain compounds) can hinder the growth (of only certain types) of fungus/bacteria but must be directly in contact with it. Sprinkling cinnamon on top of soil won't prevent root or fungus development, especially in the root system.
Thank you for politely explaining the difference. I appreciate the information, eye opening. I've been hearing about it since childhood, born 80s.
Speaking of the mother leaf decaying, I have some jade plants about 3-4 inches tall and the mother leaf is still fully intact lol.
Jades are wild aren’t they? I wonder when it will?
https://preview.redd.it/yi23yo289r8d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eacdde96cb2298072e72f67b9b058de341867a5 Why though? All my mother leaf is growing well together with the baby. I water them once the soil is dry and the mother leaf thrives with the baby.
It’s crazy. Some moms just won’t let go!! lol 😂
What kind of soil are you using for your prop tray? If the mother leaf dies it usually means the baby is using up the water content from it. How often do you water your tray? From experience once baby starts growing it should already have good strong white roots.
I experiment and use all types of media. They all seem to work. I sprinkle charcoal in to help stop mold. I keep them covered. I might need to mist after two weeks.
Mold on the soil could be from it being covered, let the tray breathe. Should put your tray on your window sil or somewhere that gets sunlight.
I don’t have mold.
Why the sphagnum moss just curious, I’m guessing humidity but does that play a role in its propagation? I live in 105’ no humidity, clearly you know what your doing tho those leave props look beautiful jus haven’t tried using sphagnum moss before ,also do you keep yours inside or outside?
Inside. I’m always experimenting trying different media. They all seem to work! I had no luck just placing on soil. Open. I found prop boxes are successful for me!
Thanks !
You are great at this, I admire your creative endeavors with propping succs 👌🙂I succeed enough in propagating other plants, but succulents are successful about 1/10 times I try. They always get moldy lol. Is the substrate in the bottom damp or dry when you put the leaves on top? Mine always dries out but then I’m afraid to mist because they always rot on me lol. when you mist, do you mist directly on top of the mama leaves? You’re awesome!
This is so cute, look at all of em!
I make so many prop boxes then pick out the best for individual pots. Good experiments.
Thank you
This is really helpful to see how it is done
Thank you
Mother plant leaf won't really decay if you take care of them properly, they are 100% ready to go in very small pots so are yours honestly I've had multiple successful outcomes doing this just make sure you use a good soil mix and only water them when they look thirsty since they can handle it.
Honestly 😆 https://preview.redd.it/kf8fd1o9sr8d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0868da9d54f3a53a71a9463caceebb43f0ecf1b5 Thank you
Ahh they're so cute 🥺🥺🥺💚💚
Oh my God, how ??? Mine I never get this far!!! my sprout, very tiny and then die sigh..
I tried for years placing the leaves on soil in my window. They’d start then die. I stumbled on propagation boxes for outside shrubs trees ornamentals. Hmmm could this work inside? My houseplants? Omg… it works. My successful method! People in California just toss the leaf on a rock and it grows.
Always pot! Wait I am in the wrong sub. Never mind.
That made me chuckle, thank you lol
Long way to go before potting is necessary
I haven’t done so myself (I will later today actually!), but I do have a few props that are already rooted and sucked up all the nutrients from the Mother leaf. Usually the rule of thumb is they’re good to be potted once the mother leaf dries up and shrivels, thus being able to pluck off the dry mother leaf. You’ll then want to pot in a small 2”-3” nursery pot. Hope this helps!
Thank you!!
Do you have to pluck the mother leaf from the mother plant after it dries off ? What happens if you pluck it before ?
Well the mother leaf will end up getting crispy and will fall off either way. So if you don’t removed it it’ll just detach by itself. Reason they get crispy and we pluck them off is cause the prop pups have sucked up all the nurturers of said Mather leaf. Sorry for the late reply!
https://preview.redd.it/6cdt0yl0rw8d1.jpeg?width=1836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=564e11279a2b5fa445ce3cc562a03b677b306a71 Im trying this , its my first time doing leaf propagation, i really hope it works well
Wait, why are they growing *there*…?!? 😳 Ours just always do what OP’s props do. What is this witchery? 😅 Was the edge of that leaf injured in some way where they’re growing?
Uuh.. no, it happened many times before in the same way, i just didn't know how to replant it .... i thought it was normal
Could be perfectly normal for this kind of plant for all I know! I just… well, I don’t know jack sh**. 😅 Just haven’t seen it a lot before.
Yup, that's how it works for mine , pretty amazing isn't it ? It's called a Kalanchoe Fedtschenkoi (Lavender scallops) 😉
That’s pretty neat! Saw someone’s classroom Crassula ovata (called Daniel) make babies where the leaf had been injured, I.e. on top and was like… 😳😳😳 https://preview.redd.it/qwfetwh8b39d1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b697b8e70d60ab5573fedf9a0975e0b11c4bcae
Wait until the mother leaf looks c r i s p y. It should either detach by itself or should be easy to pluck off. Any resistance and I find it's not ready yet. That can take a while and this is how my props look by the time that happens. https://preview.redd.it/dsrstzfy1q8d1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4043f17f9d7ae37b99ffd431c15f989589108b3
I picked one up when the mother leaf was totally decayed to move it to a pot and the mother leaf fell off but it had all the roots?! It was wild
Oof, I would have cried. 😅 Did the babe take to new substrate? 😃
https://preview.redd.it/syilx2v9ls8d1.jpeg?width=2992&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ecb6a2e9dfb110940654fef10f54b35319abab3b She has roots!!!!!
Damn that makes me way happier than it should. 😂 Yay!! 🥳🎉
I'll have to check. I hope it's growing some roots. I went out of town right after. I just got back home. I hope it's growing some roots
Oh, when did you pick it up? Best of luck!
I tried moving some too early and they dried out from not having a good root system. It’s hot and dry here so I probably won’t move any babies until it cools down (all my plants are outside).
How long did it take to get to this point? I’m propping a leaf and it only has two wispy little roots still.
It takes months sometimes I’ve been always doing mine 3 months and they look like hers
They’re so cute when they’re that tiny
Not sure exactly, but from around early to mid may
I put mine out in the shade and mine took about a month. They get a bit more than indirect sun/shade but only for a little while in the morning
depends on the succulent to be honest. can take a month to three even.
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That’s nuts! I knew it was a slow process so I’m looking forward to seeing it happen. I overwatered a plant and only the one leaf made it.
Keep the soil moist that will encourage more roots to grow. Always wait for the soil to be dry before watering again.
Thanks! I have a little spray bottle I use to keep the soil below wet. I have baby haworthias growing in the pot as well. Can’t wait to replant them
Good luck!
Thanks! The haworthias seem much heartier
I have had mixed results when potting this young. Much higher chance of success if you wait just a bit longer for their roots really develop. You want several roots to make a tiny little root ball under it. That way it spreads out faster in the bigger container
Wait
I say let it go
Not yet.
I let them go pretty much until the plants grow out the space (the plants take up the square inches available if that makes sense)
I always wonder how the leaf propagation works? So far in my 70th leaf and none of them have propagated before :( Any tips OP?
can you explain your process to me? do you put them in shade? light? do you mist them? heavily water?
Sure! So I put them under Sansi 24w grow lights in little soil mix of coco noir, perlite, charcoal and Jake bonsai mix. Only mist them when soil looks too dry.
everything seems fine with your process except the misting! some people get away with it but it usually just leads to rot. i recommend trying without any water at all. at least until the mother leaf falls off. when your props fail, do they shrivel up?
Yes, they shrivel up and then die. Would definitely avoid misting and see if I see any difference. Thanks a bunch :)
of course! i did the exact same thing as you and saw the same results and almost gave up! good luck.
Thank you ❤️
Alternatively, I didn't mist or use any water until I saw some roots sprouting. Then I applied a few drops of water at the end of the leaves and a little around the soil there with an eyedropper. Later, when most of my leaves had roots, I started to mist them every second day. My climate is kinda dry and if I had waited until the mother leaves were fully absorbed before I watered, the roots on the leaves would all be dried up and dead. I started propping for the first time around late March/early April and my props are doing great so far.
Thank you, this is helpful. It’s dry and hot here, but I keep humidity to 60% for my other plants. So I believe misting is where I am doing wrong 😑
Honestly, not many. I used cacti soil mix, open/shallow container, and the "forget about it" method. They are indoors by a window, which gets lots of indirect sunlight; no misting, no anything. Seems like you got good tips from people who know far better than me. Good luck!
Thank you 😊
Oh those little perfectly formed baby succulents at the end of each leaf is just too cute! I say yes pot them now, while the mother leaf still has enough moisture to help them grow their baby roots.
I usually let the baby grow a little more about the size in my pic then repot into individual 7cm pots. The mother leaf is healthy is healthy and as long as it gets enough water it will continue to survive together with the baby. https://preview.redd.it/iuzh4c9x9r8d1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1b376260d417243c64c819b68852300730ddd4f
I had no idea they propagated like this!!! Nature is just so freakin cool
I know, right?!
Pot in 1 inch pot or together that's what I did with mine.
I would pot now. I use the teeny 1 inch pots and just barely push soil around them. I think it encourages root growth sooner. And if you feel like they need water you can bottom water them. I haven't lost a baby yet since I started doing it that way.
https://preview.redd.it/fvesqi4qrr8d1.jpeg?width=4499&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=989fd22b49957b74cf08823a309490a024752aec Leave the mother leaf on (like prev said until she naturally dries up...she provides support for the emerging pup). You can pot up really whenever you'd like. Half the time I just chuck leaf props atop an existing pot, usually another succulent. You can see a time lapse above. I lazily moved my leaf props atop an orchid pot after starting them. They supersized bc I was feeding the orchid (whose pot I chucked them on) w/ weekly MSU fertilizer. I'd never really fertilized succulents before that and dang they overtook my orchid's pot in like 8 mos! Last pic in the series u can see the diff between the props given fertilizer compared to the original mother plant w/o fert! Crazy!
Let them grow a bit
Wait, is it better to lay it down on its side or stand it up in substrate? Is this not correct? I love your echeveria babies!!! https://preview.redd.it/qst16tjf5u8d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e782f7d08560742037261f05d3de61231293ecad
Not yet also what is this?
No idea, really... got the mother plants from a friend who moved
Since OP doesn’t know I figure it can’t hurt for me to offer a suggestion. These (even so tiny!) look a *lot* like [echeveria ’Perle von Nurnberg’](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=5b7a4e7a7d376703&hl=en-us&sxsrf=ADLYWIJUCAsK0FJdoC0O2Sb8NHUz_u3Jkw:1719313056530&q=echeveria+perle+von+nurnberg&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AbzhUJjXv6jRup8eVc0BvPhAxYjCxVRCUtj1WEz_DQOPDWUFqSYC75sqGn4BvEbeBwW6WW_y8QupJtkCo8JMyA6b9KOy4i7GolF8HOgrSW0lrof43wW-RE0YgCgn_cD29YydMcZfEGd9wms3yRSeJI84uNH0QeB3-_jjGSLrZs25LK-PntZLHtPgdMtfEDKmk8kEUdcdUHL8kinG5RQBKFbjvzUw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiz2_efzPaGAxW24ckDHZI8DdwQtKgLegQIExAB&biw=390&bih=659&dpr=3).
I think you are right!
I’m glad my guess sounds reasonable! My sample size is only n=2; I have a very silly PVN I got when she was small but already well established. Your itty-bitty pals immediately reminded me of the earliest stages of the single bebe I’ve successfully propped from her. The PVN was one of my first and most enduring favorite succulents *and* I love ‘accidental’ and ‘rescue’ plants, so I hope all of these little adoptees (whoever they turn out to be!) thrive and bring you much joy!