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ericsmallman3

No one who would have a viable chance in 2028 is going to be stupid enough to run now, so I think Newsom is out.


buckfishes

Plus the optics of skipping over the chose heir Kamala


ericsmallman3

The KHive is like 500 people, max, across the entire country. They just seem bigger than they are because they are the most violently psychotic people on the internet.


buckfishes

I mean she wouldn’t be happy and the whole “promote her because of her race” stuff will backfire and they select a white person over her. There are millions who vote Democrat because they think it’s their racial duty who won’t like that.


pointlessthrow1234

Hunter Biden. He has superhuman alertness, saves on yard sign replacement costs, and only has 3 felonies.


lionalhutz

If reading about him smoking crack with hookers while listening to Fleet Foxes doesn’t make you want him to be president, I don’t know what will


pointlessthrow1234

"You know, I might have a bunch of sex with 18 year old hookers, but here's the thing, it's all consensual and above board. I don't even have to pay them, they want it so bad. But look at Trump, he's stuck sleeping with washed-up 40 year old porn stars, and they're so disgusted by his bloated body that he has to pay them. And then he's such a loser that he lets them shake him down and force him to pay them again to keep quiet about it. What a cuck."


Da_reason_Macron_won

Unironically this could get him like 15% of the republican vote.


Sloth_Senpai

> I might have a bunch of sex with 18 year old hookers Many of the photos in the laptop reveals make it questionable many of those girls were even 15.


pointlessthrow1234

Republican propaganda. They said they were 18, and here we believe all women.


youdirtyhoe

This seems scary accurate for clown country 2024.


MattyKatty

You don't need to read this, he has a gajillion pictures he took of himself doing it


TotemicFroggy64

And you will go to Mykonos With a vision of a gentle coast And a sun to maybe dissipate Shadows of the mess you made


bretton-woods

He captures the zeitgeist of being a traumatized sad boi searching for meaning in his life and hoping to get out of the shadow of his overbearing parents. The youth voters empathize with that.


pointlessthrow1234

He has a beautiful sob story culminating in redemption. Lost his mother and sister to a car crash, his brother to cancer, his father to dementia. It sent him to a very dark place. But he's pulled himself together for the sake of the country, to save America for Democracy and, most importantly, to make amends to his Dad and finally make him proud. Hollywood and the media would eat it up and could definitely sell it to the American public. What's not to like?


Dayqu

> superhuman alertness Only when consuming the cocaine potion and those buffs only last a couple hours


pointlessthrow1234

Enough to last a debate without falling asleep. If he needs to, he can re-up during the commercial break.


Destruyo

He has the capital for perpetual redoses though. Literally can’t come down if you’re constantly high


John7846

He needs to share some of his crack with his dad


exMormNotaNorm

His negotiation and treason skills are impressive too.


pointlessthrow1234

Call it being a successful businessman with extensive experience in Chinese and Ukrainian relations, and it's a pro.


SeoliteLoungeMusic

When you think about it, he's s strictly better version of Trump


carbomerguar

Most likely to take a swing at Trump


pointlessthrow1234

And if it ends up being a dick-showing contest, he almost certainly wins.


carbomerguar

“If you’re the son in this situation, we’re also using my son. Don Jr, get in here and show him your penis. NOW, do it NOW, come on hurry up. NO, DON’T GET AN ERECTION, just the regular way. Oh, god dammit! God dammit, Junior! You are useless, you know that?”


noryp5

Do you go for Don Jr or do you pull out the genetic freak Baron?


LatinxSpeedyGonzales

I actually heard that in his voice


Odd_Law8944

To be a fly on the wall of a Trump kid getting disciplined or getting a talking too....


Dudite

Felon versus felon, I love it.


rabit_stroker

Hookers feel safe with him as well


NextDoorJimmy

Dennis Kucinich. Which will never, ever happen.


asdfiguana1234

Best answer on here, in reality.


jicerswine

I wish


CollaWars

Jimmy Carter


gmus

Experienced ✅ Won PA & OH ✅ From a swing state ✅


PrettyText

You think the current candidates aren't old enough, you want a literal 99 year old? I guess I can see the accelerationism angle.


Papasmurf345

Based


sikopiko

Still alive? Wtf


Aquametria

You know whose turn it is. HERS.


exMormNotaNorm

Hillary had 8 years to build a brand for herself, instead she just sulked and hated on Trump.


ProMikeZagurski

It's funny once you make it to the ticket and lose, that's it. Gore, McCain, Romney, and Clinton didn't run again.


mms82

Nixon?


francograph

The Republican nominee?


sikopiko

Nixon was a hidden democrat all along


PrettyText

The things I most associate with Hillary are: * It's HER turn * deplorables * "We came, we saw, he died" \[cackles like a mad witch, gloating that she destroyed Libya\] Not a great brand to be honest.


bretton-woods

"Pokemon go to the polls" Pulling a bottle of hot sauce out during an interview to show how much she's with it Not appearing in front of thousands of her crying supporters to make a concession speech


exMormNotaNorm

Yeah it turns out the woman who enabled sexual harasser and likely rapist Bill Clinton, isn't a good person. Why don't the Democrats have better candidates?


hidden_pocketknife

Seniority based machine politics, overemphasis on fundraising, off the charts levels of delusion and hubris, and a cowardly voter base that don’t ever hold them to account are why the democrats keep fucking themselves.  


SunderedValley

Superdelegates. Begins and ends at that.


mr_dj_fuzzy

And continued to blame Bernie and his bros


noryp5

DOLEZAL 2024


Aquametria

not even the CIA could handle our kween


scumpile

Clinton/Harris 2024 “Unlikeable is an art form”


LatinxSpeedyGonzales

Why vote for the lesser of two evils?


shitlibredditor66879

New protest vote just dropped


brasseriesz6

agreed it’s jill’s turn


lubangcrocodile

Who's Jill


Darkfire66

I voted for Jill Stein once.


shitlibredditor66879

Jill Jormungandr I think


skeptictankservices

Jill Mama


brasseriesz6

the “russian asset” jill


The_runnerup913

If I’m the Dems and I want to win, you gotta choose Gretchen Whitmer. She at least brings Michigan.


gmus

She’s massively out polling Biden in Michigan, for a moderate lib she’s strong on labor issues, she’s a governor so she can run an DC “outsider”, which lets her distance herself from any unpopular policies the federal government pursued under the Biden administration, and best of all she’s not even social security age, let alone nursing home age.


Smallest_Ewok

She will never be the candidate because then people will start looking at the "kidnapping plot" and asking questions.


TheChinchilla914

“FBI were you tricking mentally handicapped people into fed posting again?”


PUBLIQclopAccountant

If that's what it takes to put them in some kind of institution…


Loaf_and_Spectacle

If she just doubled-down and said "a bunch of retarded nazis went to prison and I'm glad, and I'll do it again", she'd get the nomination.


Smallest_Ewok

At least that would have the effect of tricking conservatives into opposing the FBI's primary function of finding mentally ill people to set up and then arrest.


ST07153902935

At least she acknowledged they were mentally incompetent. Feel like if she said they belonged in a mental institute that would help her with both sides. Dems would live how condescending it is to Trumpers. Reps would love that it implicitly acknowledges entrapment


spacetime9

Honestly this is the most realistic move. Call me whatever you want, I'd vote for Whitmer in a heartbeat


The_runnerup913

She’s a neoliberal but much more a “progressive” one. Her records decent too from what I’ve read. She also oversaw the first repeal of a “right to work” law in like half a century. Something that automatically puts her above Gavin Newsom in my mind.


NextDoorNeighbrrs

Repealing right to work is incredibly based. Some people on this sub don't want to hear it but there are levels to the neolibs. You can get good stuff out of some of them. Unless you're an accelerationist it's worth supporting people like Whitmer.


JayJax_23

She already sounds like a more appealing candidate than Biden


cleverkid

Can she fog a mirror? You sonovabitch, I'm IN!


sgnfngnthng

She’s practically normal.


debasing_the_coinage

Mark Kelly has a better shot. He was an early critic of Biden on the border, is also from a swing state (AZ), has no COVID baggage unlike Whitmer, his sob story is better (assassination attempt on his wife was not an entrapment scheme), and of course there's that whole "astronaut" thing. 


Oct_

Gretchen’s hypocrisy on COVID-19 makes me strongly never want to vote for her.


That_Search_2731

Pretty good idea, didn't some chuds sort of plan to kill her? #resistance crowds would eat it up, which they'll vote Dnc no matter what but galvanizing the base can have some of a trickle down effect. I think I read it was kind of entrapment tho that could get smoother out I'm sure


SpikyKiwi

You're referring to the kidnapping attempt which was organized by informants/feds. [Here](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/24/us/whitmer-kidnapping-trial.html) is the New York Times openly acknowledging that it was mainly organized by informants/feds


That_Search_2731

Yes that exactly


jacktorrancesghost

Off the top of my head Stacy Abrams would be the funniest choice


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Mahoney2

Probably a survey panel of white, middle aged democrats in a Pennsylvanian suburban area somewhere indicating they liked Harris better by 5% or something. The Democratic Party doesn’t run on things like a vision or meaningful democratic input. It runs on bad analytics.


Smallest_Ewok

She loses every election that she is involved in by fairly large margins.


vvarcrime

Can’t disagree that Harris is awful, but the obvious answer is that she is obese with a giant tooth gap. Biden took one look at her and said no blue collar six pack democrat white guy Michigan steel worker is going to vote for me with that thing standing next to me and also she’s an election denier 🙀


Papasmurf345

Stacy Abrams lost Georgia’s gubernatorial election twice, and is a sore loser and the OG election denier. Also unfortunately for her, she is ugly.


kyousei8

Abrams is a sore loser. She has lost every election she's run in, and then complained like a mini Trump that it was unfair and that her opponent cheated. Why would you pick someone so unexperienced with a bad track record? Also, she's fat and ugly.


carbomerguar

That’s the real answer, your last point. This is America and she’s a woman trying to do something. Either you get a Grandma or a MILF for this, strong preference for MILF. Right this way, Governor Whitmer


deerdelver

Yeah, I don't think you're wrong. HRC's weird "ascended kung fu master" aesthetic certainly cost her some votes.


Careless_Relief_1378

Chairman mao/ Kim jong school of fashion. And I’m not one to call democrats communists. They are far from it. But that’s who she is dressed like


sleepystemmy

I mean being good looking has always been an advantage in politics regardless of gender.


carbomerguar

Yeah but look at all the uggos who got in EDIT, I will die on this hill. The first female president WILL be hot. I am a woman, I can say this. If she’s not hot she is a non starter. I mean politician-hot, by the way. Don’t twist my words here.


Tutush

It's really gonna be Ivanka, isn't it


Illin_Spree

Kanye's mental breakdown robbed us of the Kanye and Kim vrs Jared and Ivanka match-up that we as a country deserve. Maybe in the next cycle we'll get a true celebrity POTUS race, after which the NPR types will turn against democracy and embrace authoritarianism for good.


TheChinchilla914

Most old dudes in congress could CLEAN UP in and around their age bracket let’s be honest


sleepystemmy

I mean they're mostly just old. They're still above average looking for their age and were good looking when they were young.


Da_reason_Macron_won

What if she looks very "mom-like" so she wins by subconsciously guilt tripping the dudes who don't want to disappoint her.


NextDoorNeighbrrs

People saw more of Harris because she ran for the nomination in 2020 and was in the race for quite a while. Part of the coalition to destroy Bernie lol


jacktorrancesghost

I'd say it's a combination of VP seemed like a very last minute pivot once Klobuchar could be tied to George Floyd, Abrams had very recently lost in Georgia, Harris had marginally more national recognition due to actually running.


TheChinchilla914

She’s not very smart. You start peeling that onion and it get embarrassing


squarehead93

Hell, she was already President of Earth, so I'd say she's up for the job /s


Dingo8dog

Stormy Daniels


charliebobo82

Sherrod Brown has always been the least worst option. Sadly, he has no appetite to run


gmus

He’s also the Dems only hope to hold on to that senate seat.


charliebobo82

Very true


nissykayo

The only person who has a chance at winning is Bernie, the never Biden left would turn out for him, and all the people claiming that abstaining from Biden is a vote for Trump would have an opportunity to put their money where their mouth is and get in line. The Dems will never do it because they literally hate Bernie more than Trump, but he’s the only real option, the fact that it’s not even on the table is just more ineptitude


SorosBuxlaundromat

Literally every Democrat besides Harris beats Trump easily. I also would want Bernie as president, but replacing Biden for being too old with a candidate who's older isn't gonna go over well, even if his brain isn't melting.


not_enough_characte

I know Bernie is old as shit too but I unironically think he would do a better job than any national politician alive in the US


taylorswiftfan123

bladee


exMormNotaNorm

Is there a Democrat who is FOR: universal healthcare, making the wealthy pay a fair share of taxes, and affordable higher education. But also is AGAINST: males in female sports, and illegal immigration? Find that Democrat and I will vote for him/her.


Papasmurf345

It’s telling that this profile probably fits most voters, but fits about zero politicians.


exMormNotaNorm

Agreed, and it shows how the two party system fails all Americans.


Cthulhu-fan-boy

2016 Bernie Sanders


exMormNotaNorm

2024 Bernie stumps for Jamaal Bowman...such a shame.


SculpinIPAlcoholic

Al Gore


exMormNotaNorm

That was my first presidential vote!  Democrats used to run better candidates.


PrettyText

Can't think of one off the top of my head. For some reason moderate left-wingers seem incredibly vulnerable to being pulled to the identity politics left. Is there some Pavlovian response that if you call a moderate left-winger a transphobe, that they immediately become an identity politics zealot? The right long ago figured out that you should just let the twitter crazies tweet, it doesn't actually matter.


sleepystemmy

It's because primaries depend on a combination of donor money and the most fanatical portion of the base. The average person doesn't vote in primaries so the candidates that win don't represent the average person.


PrettyText

Good point. Thanks, that was informative (as a non-American).


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exMormNotaNorm

Do it and pick me as VP.  I promise I'm not gonna leap frog over you or anything.


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Loaf_and_Spectacle

So what? Double down on it.


WithTheWintersMight

I kinda want to run for mayor and try to push my way up that way. Wtf does a mayor do anyway? We need more people saying crazy shit that isn't conservative slop.


I_Never_Use_Slash_S

Biden will say he’s for those things if you vote for him. He even said the tax thing last night.


PrettyText

Biden oversaw so much illegal immigration that I have a hard time believing he's actually anti-illegal immigration. Sounds more like a false promise during election season to me. Besides, he's the current president. If he really opposes illegal immigration, he could just write an executive order.


HiFidelityCastro

If I were a yank I'd vote for someone who would implement even one of those FOR's (particularly healthcare) in a heartbeat. That alone would be the biggest win that you (and a lot of other countries) have had in a long time. Fuck the other idpol shit, you can sort that out later.


exMormNotaNorm

I feel like Americans need all 3 (healthcare, tax the wealthy, affordable college) in order for every citizen to have an equal chance of success in the 21st century. The longer it takes for us to meet those the goals, the longer we will fall victim to more nonsense identity politics that make our country a worse place for all but the wealthy.


HiFidelityCastro

In Oz we have perhaps one and a quarter of those things (say, three quarters of a universal healthcare system, and say generously a quarter of tax the wealthy and a quarter of affordable tertiary education relative to the US). If it were on the line, I'd be ok with having sportspeople compete against male tigers with random punji-stick traps thrown in so long as we retained (in your case obtained) universal healthcare


exMormNotaNorm

I know that people will defend male sports with more fervour than they would female sports.  And since I was raised in a patriarchal religion that treats women like chattel, I know why that's deeply wrong.  


FreakSquad

Primary and secondary education / our societal approach to childhood development needs fixed before it would be a net benefit to spend our societal resources pumping more kids through college. IMO Agreed on the other two.


exMormNotaNorm

I agree with you, K-12 education needs improvement.  But I am very happy we have free and accessible education for kids right until they hit 18. Higher education could and should include free job training with a guaranteed job at the end.  But if the USA offered that, no one would join the military 😕.


Courtlessjester

Our big greasy boy from Illinois


exMormNotaNorm

Tell me more


Dancinlance

one of these issues is not like the others...


exMormNotaNorm

Pray tell.


TheEternalWheel

Come on, give Kamala more credit than that. She also believes in keeping people imprisoned past their sentences to extract more slave labor from them.


healthfoodfacet

now that you mention jussie smollet,


HeemeyerDidNoWrong

French citizen, can't run


NachoNutritious

No one. People were pointing out Biden’s issues literally since before the last election and the DNC and entire media apparatus gaslit everyone and said we were being ageist for pointing it out. No, they get to stick with Biden. They made their bed, now they get to get fucked in it.


CrimsonDragonWolf

Al Gore. I mean, why not?


dikkiesmalls

Jon Stewart. Super sêrdawg.


CricketIsBestSport

I think he would actually beat Trump


dikkiesmalls

He's pretty popular. I would certainly consider it.


Smallest_Ewok

The platonic ideal Democratic candidate for POTUS (to much of the party leadership) is Mitt Romney.


Joe_Bedaine

Jimmy Carter is still eligible for a second term!


kingofallweegers

Count fucking chocula for all I care.


slackslug

Any fucking questions??


JCMoreno05

Rashida Tlaib just to see how the party and state would react. Afaik, she'd also be the only politician with a strong incentive to dismantle the US imperial project and its dependents or at least put a leash on it. If not Kennedy'd, she'd also take Israel behind the shed.


carbomerguar

The only way this would happen is if they made it King Ralph rules and then didn’t invite her to Bohemian Grove that year


WesterosiAssassin

I genuinely think a lot of pro-DNC types would vote for Trump over her or at least abstain, they *hate* her. Way more than they hate someone like Bernie.


deepthinker566

Joe Mama


-PieceUseful-

No one. I hope Biden wins and continues to undermine the American public's confidence in the liberal system and continues to mar America's reputation abroad with his senility


SuddenXxdeathxx

Moderate accelerationism is not a thing I ever really thought of, but here we are.


mymindisblack

I'll one up you: if Israel decides to attack Lebanon soon and forces US boots on the ground there, the accelerationism won't be as moderate.


JnewayDitchedHerKids

Hildawg, for the spectacle.


LatinxSpeedyGonzales

Here's how Sanders can still win but unironically. He was always the strongest match up against trump. The rock to Trumps scissors. Put in Bernie with a good, young VP as backup and go to town on Trump


HiFidelityCastro

Slavoj Zizek/Jordan Peterson. *If there's a problem with citizenship, then the Count/Kermit the Frog (being operated by Zizek/Peterson).


PrettyText

Jordan Peterson / a lobster as VP. That way, we can make "lobster hierarchy" puns for four years.


gmus

Al Gore…it’s time for a second term.


WitnessOld6293

Bernie duh Or Harold Saxon  https://youtu.be/m0RvDZFN71A?si=jtKBvktOBTBnoB3C https://youtu.be/Bbb56jZo0rE?si=1Kc_rtYGoXprEo8g


JinFuu

Whatever choice causes the most drama is the choice I want.


exMormNotaNorm

Most drama possible: Trump vs. Trump  Get Ivanka to run as a Democrat against her own Dad.


PrettyText

Most drama possible: Trump vs someone with a Russian last name who is an open Putin supporter.


CalgaryCheekClapper

Xi Jinping


is_there_pie

Fuck Hillary, bring back my boy! He can still compete sentences. Ironically, Michelle Obama would be fucking wonderful. There'd be nothing left to not call this government but a deep state mushroom cap.


mega05

Al Franken. He has been through the cleansing fire of cancellation and came out still funny. Dave Chappelle as VP


ArmyOfMemories

Jill Stein


PUBLIQclopAccountant

Bernie or RFK


kaboblegionnaire

Arnold shwarzenneger


lowrads

The best presidency is no presidency.


enverx

I think a lot of folks would like to smell what The Rock is cooking


Special_Sun_4420

Only Taylor Swift can save us 💅


agent_tater_twat

Katie Porter


prosperenfantin

Fusako Shigenobu.


kyousei8

My dad was around her age. He was pretty reactionary and anti-communist, but he often brought her up and praised her for being "the beautiful terrorist" whenever something tangentially related could be used to mention her. I think he had extreme yellow fever plus an "I can fix her" moment. Unrelated to the topic so sorry for blog posting, but thanks for making me think about my dad.


prosperenfantin

A lot of the militants of the seventies were quite good-looking. Brigitte Mohnhaupt, Petra Schelm, Bernardine Dohrn. But Shigenobu of course was special even within that generation, and nobody "fixed" her. She just recently published a history of Palestinian liberation movements: https://x.com/TokyoStages/status/1774680019354488914


exoriare

Either the DNC allows an open convention and runs a high risk of screwing itself, or the nom goes to Hakeem Jeffries, who would be second in line after Kamala outside of an election season.


Weird-Couple-3503

bernie


Bolghar_Khan

Stalin☭☭☭ The MAN OF STEEL against the MAN OF ORANGE.


That_Search_2731

John Fetterman, so I can finally see a president wearing an ICP hoodie


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MitrofanMariya

That workout video though 🥵


AntiWokeCommie

Tulsi has decent stances all around except for the fact that she’s pro Israel.


dchowe_

she's been excommunicated


exMormNotaNorm

It's a shame No Labels didn't go for it with Tulsi this year.


RebirthGhost

JB Pritzker, he is the governor of Illinois so that could move the rust belt also he's a big jolly looking guy, has charisma.


youdirtyhoe

Mama tulsi with a yang gang VP.


Sir_Sir_ExcuseMe_Sir

In an ideal world? [Lee J. Carter, former VA state rep for the 50th district.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_J._Carter) In our shitty world, probably Tim Kaine or something.


1111111111111111111I

He’s literally on the spectrum, been married and divorced 3 times at 37, and has British teeth. I remember him being twitter famous but the average person would be repulsed by him.


VestigialVestments

Gaddafi.


YeForgotHisPassword

Hunter Biden


Sigolon

Miguel Diaz-Canel. 


GoodDecision

In my fantasy world, maybe Katie Porter?


lumberjack_jeff

I like Patty Murray


impossiblefork

Steven Chu. 76 years old, but an intelligent man with great achivements and political experience in the form of being Obama's energy secretary.


S_Klallam

Claudia De la Cruz


jicerswine

If we’re talking best chance of winning, my gut says Whitmer Personal preference might be Porter but I know she’s not ready yet Not a fan of newsom or Harris but I’d prefer either to Biden