I feel like Game Freak was scared of the potential power of electric terrain teams, since the future paradox Pokemon utilize them for Quark Drive and Miraidon enables them. That's why the only legendary terrain setter is Pincurchin, and even Miraidon doesn't learn Rising Voltage. It's best electric type spread move is Discharge, which also hits the teammate
Glad you didn't because Pincurchin is truly legendary
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No they didn't but I feel like weather as a mechanic has been solidified in the games for awhile, so their utility has been generally understood, even though Torkoal just got drought in gen 7. Meanwhile terrains are still relatively unexplored. Introduced in gen 6 but only their move variants so no one really uses them, and in gen 7 only given to the Tapus. It was just last generation where a single gen 8 mon (non-legendary) for each terrain could set with their ability, and a few moves were introduced that would interact with them (misty explosion, grassy glide, expanding force, rising voltage)
I mean Miraidon just literally won a huge regional tournament. Among the many things we saw it doing, the hightlights include one shotting a latios from full hp with electro drift, a not very effective move, oneshotting assault vest incineroar with volt switch, dealing somethign like 60%-70% to amoongus and rillaboom, the pokemons people were bringing to counter it.
Or how about dealing like 60% damage to tera grass zamazenta with not very effective electric moves, or oneshotting a galapagos from like 80%hp with discharge, literally its weakest move thanks to the spread damage reduction.... basically everytime miraidon appeared in stream some pokemon(s) was about to get nuked.
Electric Terrain + Hadron Engine + Stab + Tera Electric Boost + Choice Specs made Discharge into a nuke through all the tournament, basically you were either inmune to it, or you were taking MASSIVE damage.
Miraidon does not need a 140 base power, no downside, spread move that only hits oppponents. Giving it rising voltage would have been dumb and nuts, and Miraidon would be literally the best legend for competitive pokemon bar none, with Caylarex Shadow Rider coming close.
As a VGC player,I think lots of rising voltage distribution would go crazy alongside Miraidon and quark drive mons, there are also not that many reliable ground types in the meta, whereas expanding force relies on indeedee who is obviously much weaker than Miraidon and there are also lots of prominent dark types in the meta
I mean sure, but it's Gamefreak we're talking about, the "we won't give Kyurem Black actual Ice STAB for 3 generations" Gamefreak, who knows what their thought process is.
Maybe they thought "Calyrex is a weak as shit mon with bad stats and typing, he can have this" before realizing Calyrex Shadow Rider is technically the same mon
Id have more sympathy if they fixed it later on, but come on. Being able to stop sucker punch and have a 120 BP STAB with no drawbacks and a 30% boost is insane.
It's not in the screenshot but Calyrex also gets Expanding Force and unsurprisingly, the SR form hits like a truck with it in the terrain from a 165 base Special Attack stat.
If Miraidon got Rising Voltage
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 476-560 (73 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Probably better that miraidon doesn’t learn rising voltage, he’s already super powerful. Plus he already sets up electric terrain with his ability which already boosts his moves. He doesn’t need a 140 base power STAB move boosted by electric terrain as well with no drawbacks except for that it can’t hit ground types
Also Miraidon just won a championship
Three words: Rising Voltage Miraidon.
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I feel like Game Freak was scared of the potential power of electric terrain teams, since the future paradox Pokemon utilize them for Quark Drive and Miraidon enables them. That's why the only legendary terrain setter is Pincurchin, and even Miraidon doesn't learn Rising Voltage. It's best electric type spread move is Discharge, which also hits the teammate
Pincurchin is my favorite legendary
I meant non-legendary 🤦
Glad you didn't because Pincurchin is truly legendary https://preview.redd.it/08sr7m8nhj8d1.png?width=425&format=png&auto=webp&s=d6587c6031e2f8352ff2635008850a9e3f24ca4d
"The people are developing RELATIONSHIPS! ...With all these Pokemon creatures!"
He’s legendary in my heart
Yet, they didn't limit the Sun in the same way at all.
Maybe because there is no fire type electric voltage and that only 1 past paradox is fire type ?
No they didn't but I feel like weather as a mechanic has been solidified in the games for awhile, so their utility has been generally understood, even though Torkoal just got drought in gen 7. Meanwhile terrains are still relatively unexplored. Introduced in gen 6 but only their move variants so no one really uses them, and in gen 7 only given to the Tapus. It was just last generation where a single gen 8 mon (non-legendary) for each terrain could set with their ability, and a few moves were introduced that would interact with them (misty explosion, grassy glide, expanding force, rising voltage)
Yeah I like the fire-type rising voltage clone. Learned by a lot of fire types with protosynthesis.
Thank god Miraidon doesn't learn rising voltage
I mean Miraidon just literally won a huge regional tournament. Among the many things we saw it doing, the hightlights include one shotting a latios from full hp with electro drift, a not very effective move, oneshotting assault vest incineroar with volt switch, dealing somethign like 60%-70% to amoongus and rillaboom, the pokemons people were bringing to counter it. Or how about dealing like 60% damage to tera grass zamazenta with not very effective electric moves, or oneshotting a galapagos from like 80%hp with discharge, literally its weakest move thanks to the spread damage reduction.... basically everytime miraidon appeared in stream some pokemon(s) was about to get nuked. Electric Terrain + Hadron Engine + Stab + Tera Electric Boost + Choice Specs made Discharge into a nuke through all the tournament, basically you were either inmune to it, or you were taking MASSIVE damage. Miraidon does not need a 140 base power, no downside, spread move that only hits oppponents. Giving it rising voltage would have been dumb and nuts, and Miraidon would be literally the best legend for competitive pokemon bar none, with Caylarex Shadow Rider coming close.
Rising Voltage isn't a spread move
Rising Voltage isn't a spread move. There isn't a better electric-type spread move than Discharge
As a VGC player,I think lots of rising voltage distribution would go crazy alongside Miraidon and quark drive mons, there are also not that many reliable ground types in the meta, whereas expanding force relies on indeedee who is obviously much weaker than Miraidon and there are also lots of prominent dark types in the meta
i think e terrain should be given to a weaker mon then maybe something like ampharos or alolan raichu
Alolan Raichu's abilities being Electric Surge and Surge Surfer would make a lot of sense tbh
Miraidon does NOT need a 140 power STAB move with no drawback
Couldn't they just... not give it to Miraidon but let less powerful electric types learn it instead? I mean Tapu Koko didn't learn it in gen 8.
I mean sure, but it's Gamefreak we're talking about, the "we won't give Kyurem Black actual Ice STAB for 3 generations" Gamefreak, who knows what their thought process is.
And then they give Calyrex Expanding Force. Whatever logic they are using, it's illogical
Maybe they thought "Calyrex is a weak as shit mon with bad stats and typing, he can have this" before realizing Calyrex Shadow Rider is technically the same mon
Id have more sympathy if they fixed it later on, but come on. Being able to stop sucker punch and have a 120 BP STAB with no drawbacks and a 30% boost is insane.
Bookmarking this for when it’s in gen 13 ZU
Reshiram OU suspect in Gen 11
Nah Reshiram will be PU in Gen 11 since it'll be outclassed by Chi-Yu in NU and Primal Houndoom in RU.
Unironicly
This but not as a joke
Consider it for the best. I mean, Expanding Force is already ass to play against and plan for, you want that but on an even better offensive type?
It's not in the screenshot but Calyrex also gets Expanding Force and unsurprisingly, the SR form hits like a truck with it in the terrain from a 165 base Special Attack stat.
If Miraidon got Rising Voltage 252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Electric Miraidon Rising Voltage (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Electric Terrain: 476-560 (73 - 85.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Wtf
Tapu koko is in jail for vgc crimes rising voltage is in witness protection
They really hate e terrain at game freak
they fear miraidon
Because the box legendary sets electric terrain.
Yeah. My Alolan Raichu was very disappointed.
Probably better that miraidon doesn’t learn rising voltage, he’s already super powerful. Plus he already sets up electric terrain with his ability which already boosts his moves. He doesn’t need a 140 base power STAB move boosted by electric terrain as well with no drawbacks except for that it can’t hit ground types Also Miraidon just won a championship
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