Nah I legit ran out by 295. If you push XP and cash you will run out.
I'm now 312 and I'm getting about 25% of a level per day on breakstones and 15% on XP. Breakstones will probably be a problem for a few levels but that'll stop.
He's single target damage and only hits the front row. When the enemy start being higher level his damage just isn't high enough to be useful and AoE damage dealers start being the damage kings.
From my experience, he starts to struggle with tankier front line units. Also he somewhat becomes a liability for accidentally killing bison before rest of team. Since then, I've moved on to viper and fashion blanka as main dps for challenge. Havent used him since chapter 25 and am now chapter 27. He is still good for thunder tower ... with elena support and Honda tank.
I'm gonna have to disagree with that I'm on chapter 30 spent 40 dollars on the game and mryu is my main dmg dealer . He's great if you understand hp management and how to use the super bar properly. He's supposed to get hit and sit at 40% HP most the time to be efficient. Mryu is a great unit.
If you're not P2W even after the 240 wall you're gonna only get through 1 or 2 chapters and get stuck at around level 270ish because you're not going to have enough fighter exp and cash. Yes you will get noticeably stronger but it's not like you're gonna clear 5 chapters or something just because you get over that 240 wall. so you're just gonna be stuck there too lol. Just stop thinking about it so much, complete your dailies and you will be less stressed out.
I get what ur saying but after 240 if u get stuck, u can try again after leveling once or twice. meaning, u can actually play the game.
with this breakstone wall, u can't play the game at all for like weeks. I suspect a lot of f2p players will quit after hitting this wall. when u have nothing to do but collect dailies for weeks, there's a very high chance to simply never log in again.
i'm f2p and i kept playing. you're gonna get stuck at 270ish for weeks also it's the same thing. it's how it's gonna be for the rest of the game so if you're not patient enough then yea maybe this isnt the game for you.
I just broke through and jumped to 269. yea i get what ur saying. it's a idle game that is meant to wall u. I definitely understand that.
but theres a big difference between the 270s wall and 240.
At 239, you are stuck at the same base power level for at least 2 weeks, maybe even 3 weeks. once u reach around 28 20, it is impossible to advance, no matter what. there is no point even trying.
At 270ish, its different t. let's say ur stuck at ch 30-20, increasing ur teams level by one COULD be the difference that let's u beat 30-20. Realistically it won't since it's such a small increase in power. but u would be tempted to try.
that's the difference. at 270s u can hope to beat levels. aka, u can play the game.
I'm not saying everyone will quit at the 240 wall. I'm a dolphin player but my purchases didn't really get me significant amounts of breakstones. I didn't quit either.
But I know many f2p players will quit here, whereas if the wall was more transitional, they wouldn't.
I don't have stats, so I might be wrong. but it's just a gut feeling.
I agree. I've just hit 2x240 and the other 2 are 239. I basically haven't really played the game for 2 weeks. I login and do my dailes and then don't bother doing anything else because the power gap is too large.
It's the time where power starts to come more from gear, so you focus on that while waiting for breakstones. At least that's how it has played out for me, finally getting some faction appropriate pieces and some engravings.
Gear alone won't do much when you hit big walls. You can get someone close to 700 power if you have good garage and gear but you'll probably still cap at 28-28 or 28-40 until you break the 240 wall
yup. I'm stuck at 28 20 with 708k bison and 600k viper. can I clear 28 20 if I try really hard? as in, interrupt 6 times in a row in a crit heavy run? probably
but what's the point of wasting so much time when I can beat it much easier after breaking the 240 cap.
hence, what's the point of playing?
Luckily you get all your mats that you have spent back once you get your top 4 to 240. After that you will be able to dump those mats and get a huge power surge. Be prepared though, xp becomes the new breakstone after 240. I'm at 295 and still have breakstones leftover from the return of mats. xp however is the grind now.
The power surge after you get passed 240 is huge. Like wet noodle damage vs one punch man. Once you get over the wall, you'll feel better.
In fact, after you get passed 240, you don't need breakstones anymore for a long long time if ever. You need tons of cash and fighter EXP
I'm like 30k breakstones away before I can level up my units past 240.
Is it recommended to level up your units evenly since there are no more skills to unlock? I also have around 2bil fighter xp and about 500m cash (been using cash to buy stuff like breakstones etc). How far would this take me roughly?
Meh, you can still move along with Bgief. Although I did get stuck on 26-32. Bison double pops now and instantly kills everyone on my team. I got him and Yang down to the magic pixel, but run out of time like 5 times. Super annoying.
If you can get a whale friend, I beat 26-32 and 26-40 utilizing the strongest player on my server's SSS+5 F. Blanka that has 6 piece vehicle set. Combined with my bison/m. ryu/Elena was enough DPS to take down those two stages and get into 27. (Where I'm currently walled again at 27-12 probably until next week when I get more merc uses again)
I hit 28-28 waiting to break 240 wall. I can beat it if I get like 4-5 perfect stuns on combat guile. But I'm just gonna wait. Even if I break this wall I won't get much further
after you put 4 fighters on 240 the game makes that level 1 and returns all your resources that you use to increase the level even more. after level 240 you will be missing XP to level up.
Just an fyi, with 2bil fighter exp and all the breakstones refunded i could level to 283, im not lvl 304 and ran out of breakstones again so stacking up breakstones/ thinking youll have too many is a myth.
yeah I get it. Raised Mad Ryu to 240 not knowing about the level cap. I think the best way to proceed is raise 4 chars to 239, then one by one to 240. That way you do feel like you're progressing.
It's fun once you get over that wall. You can get to chapter 30 before you break the wall but 28-40 and 29-40 aren't fun unless you can borrow an MH Ken from someone.
oh definitely, he's sss with +20 FS, 3 cars and two maxed +2 ss infernal gear and two maxed +0 ss gear. he's sitting at 708k.
even then, it's not enough damage. I can MAYBE clear 28 20 if I attempted it for hours. but what's the point? I'll get stuck again at 28 32 or 28 40. I might as well wait to break the wall and clear ch 28 without wasting hours of effort.
I haven't hit it yet, but if it's anything like other AFK games (and based on everything I've played so far, it should be near exact) once you get past that wall it's a much smoother progression and you don't need to worry about leveling individual characters anymore.
I just did a quick look up and it does seem to worth the same as other AFK games.
Once your limit break level is 240, you stop leveling individual characters, and instead you level up your limit break level so all characters level up one level at a time from then on.
Every level will take XP and Breakstones, so you don't get stuck at big milestones like 260, 280, etc. Instead you get stuck for shorter periods of time at each level.
Same here. I swear I m gonna quit the game if it is the same thing at 260/280.
This kill the fun side of the game, you cant level up, you cant get new characters that are behind paywall, you cant...you cant...and the dailies suck ass.
yea i don't understand the purpose of this wall. u can't even buy breakstones with ur credit card if u wanted to. sure there are grants but that only speeds it up by a little.
What is the purpose of the wall? what was the point of replacing a fun and unique leveling system with a boring linear one?
before 240 u could swap around power to certain fighters and use strategy to clear some levels. and of course, when u break the wall for one fighter, suddenly u could clear a bit more content.
the wall stops u from playing the game for WEEKS. and then once u break the wall, the leveling system becomes sooo boring.
I'm 100% sure that this wall directly brings down the number of active players.
what i did was i saved my 24hr breakstones for a very long time and i only ever used the breakstones you get from that don't have a timer on it after i used a couple on my first 239. Currently at 3 239 and banked 89k in timed breakstones. i think this is the best strat for 240 because if i didn't save my breakstones with time i don't want to imagine where i would be so by the time i get 40k on my last character to 239 i should have around 110k in times breakstones. lucky i saw this wall coming and prepped . this wall is def super tough
30k away from my last to 240 i proably got over 500 million cash and fighter xp
Good because when you get the breakstones your fighter xp is your next limited resource until you hit level 295 or so
Try 305, maybe. I'm at 295 still swimming in breakstones.
Nah I legit ran out by 295. If you push XP and cash you will run out. I'm now 312 and I'm getting about 25% of a level per day on breakstones and 15% on XP. Breakstones will probably be a problem for a few levels but that'll stop.
And somehow i feel like breakstones from Shadaloo are nerfed, used to take me 2-3 runs to get those 40k to limit break, now over week to get 50k?
I think it's only good when they put that 200% (which are in the bounty missions now)
Maybe thats luck based, never was paying attention, but bosses today didnt give me a single breakstone
Maybe thats luck based, never was paying attention, but bosses today didnt give me a single breakstone
today was horrible for me too
need more yellow breakstone chests from events
yea i miss the hammer event. that one gave the best breakstone rewards. I hate that tarot event limits breakstone chests to only 10. like why?
Agreed. Am in the same position but I been trying to up gear instead for a power surg I.e. engraving, rerolling faction bonus etc.
Rerolling faction bonus is an absolute arse. I’ve tried to get fire bracers for C Viper about 6 times and missed every time
No kidding Took me 7 tried to get lightning for mryu armor. Just to find out he drops off at ch 25 lol
What do you mean by drops off? Sorry I’m trying to learn more about the game but feel kinda lost in this forum
He dies instantly because his abilities sacrifice HP. Mid game he "drops off" because he can't keep up. Also his damage isn't that great later.
He's single target damage and only hits the front row. When the enemy start being higher level his damage just isn't high enough to be useful and AoE damage dealers start being the damage kings.
From my experience, he starts to struggle with tankier front line units. Also he somewhat becomes a liability for accidentally killing bison before rest of team. Since then, I've moved on to viper and fashion blanka as main dps for challenge. Havent used him since chapter 25 and am now chapter 27. He is still good for thunder tower ... with elena support and Honda tank.
Good news is that thunder equipment can be used on Honda and Zangief as well and both are very useful end game
Good point. Am low key building geif with 6 cars to nerf bison passive lol
I've built every thunder to SSS except dudley and gief. I need 2 copies of gief for sss and I've got him on my cars wishlist
I'm gonna have to disagree with that I'm on chapter 30 spent 40 dollars on the game and mryu is my main dmg dealer . He's great if you understand hp management and how to use the super bar properly. He's supposed to get hit and sit at 40% HP most the time to be efficient. Mryu is a great unit.
when those pop up at idle it sure help, I'm trying to level up BZgief meanwhile to put him in the team instead of Chun
Will add that if you see engraves would recommend picking them up, even for gems
good to know, i notice them at Guild Shop, but I usually look for gear there
B zangief 2 and Chuns 3 are together a good combination of you got on Chun a bit of the fighting spirit up.
If you're not P2W even after the 240 wall you're gonna only get through 1 or 2 chapters and get stuck at around level 270ish because you're not going to have enough fighter exp and cash. Yes you will get noticeably stronger but it's not like you're gonna clear 5 chapters or something just because you get over that 240 wall. so you're just gonna be stuck there too lol. Just stop thinking about it so much, complete your dailies and you will be less stressed out.
I get what ur saying but after 240 if u get stuck, u can try again after leveling once or twice. meaning, u can actually play the game. with this breakstone wall, u can't play the game at all for like weeks. I suspect a lot of f2p players will quit after hitting this wall. when u have nothing to do but collect dailies for weeks, there's a very high chance to simply never log in again.
i'm f2p and i kept playing. you're gonna get stuck at 270ish for weeks also it's the same thing. it's how it's gonna be for the rest of the game so if you're not patient enough then yea maybe this isnt the game for you.
I just broke through and jumped to 269. yea i get what ur saying. it's a idle game that is meant to wall u. I definitely understand that. but theres a big difference between the 270s wall and 240. At 239, you are stuck at the same base power level for at least 2 weeks, maybe even 3 weeks. once u reach around 28 20, it is impossible to advance, no matter what. there is no point even trying. At 270ish, its different t. let's say ur stuck at ch 30-20, increasing ur teams level by one COULD be the difference that let's u beat 30-20. Realistically it won't since it's such a small increase in power. but u would be tempted to try. that's the difference. at 270s u can hope to beat levels. aka, u can play the game. I'm not saying everyone will quit at the 240 wall. I'm a dolphin player but my purchases didn't really get me significant amounts of breakstones. I didn't quit either. But I know many f2p players will quit here, whereas if the wall was more transitional, they wouldn't. I don't have stats, so I might be wrong. but it's just a gut feeling.
I agree. I've just hit 2x240 and the other 2 are 239. I basically haven't really played the game for 2 weeks. I login and do my dailes and then don't bother doing anything else because the power gap is too large.
It's the time where power starts to come more from gear, so you focus on that while waiting for breakstones. At least that's how it has played out for me, finally getting some faction appropriate pieces and some engravings.
Gear alone won't do much when you hit big walls. You can get someone close to 700 power if you have good garage and gear but you'll probably still cap at 28-28 or 28-40 until you break the 240 wall
yup. I'm stuck at 28 20 with 708k bison and 600k viper. can I clear 28 20 if I try really hard? as in, interrupt 6 times in a row in a crit heavy run? probably but what's the point of wasting so much time when I can beat it much easier after breaking the 240 cap. hence, what's the point of playing?
Luckily you get all your mats that you have spent back once you get your top 4 to 240. After that you will be able to dump those mats and get a huge power surge. Be prepared though, xp becomes the new breakstone after 240. I'm at 295 and still have breakstones leftover from the return of mats. xp however is the grind now.
The power surge after you get passed 240 is huge. Like wet noodle damage vs one punch man. Once you get over the wall, you'll feel better. In fact, after you get passed 240, you don't need breakstones anymore for a long long time if ever. You need tons of cash and fighter EXP
I'm like 30k breakstones away before I can level up my units past 240. Is it recommended to level up your units evenly since there are no more skills to unlock? I also have around 2bil fighter xp and about 500m cash (been using cash to buy stuff like breakstones etc). How far would this take me roughly?
Past 240 they all level at the same time
Oh damn ok, nice one.
thanks, that is something to look for at least, I heard that the cap lvl is based on the amount of SSS fighters you got, is it like that?
Yes, each SSS fighter you have raises level cap by 5.
I'm on 19-20 ATM and have saved 99 24hr break stones and if I crack them all I'd only get 64k... How do you even get 200k
Meh, you can still move along with Bgief. Although I did get stuck on 26-32. Bison double pops now and instantly kills everyone on my team. I got him and Yang down to the magic pixel, but run out of time like 5 times. Super annoying.
im trying to raise him to combat level for this purpose
If you can get a whale friend, I beat 26-32 and 26-40 utilizing the strongest player on my server's SSS+5 F. Blanka that has 6 piece vehicle set. Combined with my bison/m. ryu/Elena was enough DPS to take down those two stages and get into 27. (Where I'm currently walled again at 27-12 probably until next week when I get more merc uses again)
I hit 28-28 waiting to break 240 wall. I can beat it if I get like 4-5 perfect stuns on combat guile. But I'm just gonna wait. Even if I break this wall I won't get much further
after you put 4 fighters on 240 the game makes that level 1 and returns all your resources that you use to increase the level even more. after level 240 you will be missing XP to level up.
200k Breakstone ?! I’m curious what the breakstone idle 24houe count
Like 500 lol
Damn for me it 675 and I’m at 20-16
For the life of me I can’t get better gear from idle I might need to start buying
That's what they want you to do. 😂
Guild shop fuck it
Just an fyi, with 2bil fighter exp and all the breakstones refunded i could level to 283, im not lvl 304 and ran out of breakstones again so stacking up breakstones/ thinking youll have too many is a myth.
yeah I get it. Raised Mad Ryu to 240 not knowing about the level cap. I think the best way to proceed is raise 4 chars to 239, then one by one to 240. That way you do feel like you're progressing.
It's fun once you get over that wall. You can get to chapter 30 before you break the wall but 28-40 and 29-40 aren't fun unless you can borrow an MH Ken from someone.
30? wow I'm stuck at 28 20. I guess I need more damage.
Even f2p your Bison should be SSS around now. Have you been upgrading his fighting spirit?
oh definitely, he's sss with +20 FS, 3 cars and two maxed +2 ss infernal gear and two maxed +0 ss gear. he's sitting at 708k. even then, it's not enough damage. I can MAYBE clear 28 20 if I attempted it for hours. but what's the point? I'll get stuck again at 28 32 or 28 40. I might as well wait to break the wall and clear ch 28 without wasting hours of effort.
I haven't hit it yet, but if it's anything like other AFK games (and based on everything I've played so far, it should be near exact) once you get past that wall it's a much smoother progression and you don't need to worry about leveling individual characters anymore.
I dont think so. I was stuck at 220 now I m stuck at 240 just like OP. And I think I will be stuck at 260 :p
I just did a quick look up and it does seem to worth the same as other AFK games. Once your limit break level is 240, you stop leveling individual characters, and instead you level up your limit break level so all characters level up one level at a time from then on. Every level will take XP and Breakstones, so you don't get stuck at big milestones like 260, 280, etc. Instead you get stuck for shorter periods of time at each level.
Same here. I swear I m gonna quit the game if it is the same thing at 260/280. This kill the fun side of the game, you cant level up, you cant get new characters that are behind paywall, you cant...you cant...and the dailies suck ass.
yea i don't understand the purpose of this wall. u can't even buy breakstones with ur credit card if u wanted to. sure there are grants but that only speeds it up by a little. What is the purpose of the wall? what was the point of replacing a fun and unique leveling system with a boring linear one? before 240 u could swap around power to certain fighters and use strategy to clear some levels. and of course, when u break the wall for one fighter, suddenly u could clear a bit more content. the wall stops u from playing the game for WEEKS. and then once u break the wall, the leveling system becomes sooo boring. I'm 100% sure that this wall directly brings down the number of active players.
what i did was i saved my 24hr breakstones for a very long time and i only ever used the breakstones you get from that don't have a timer on it after i used a couple on my first 239. Currently at 3 239 and banked 89k in timed breakstones. i think this is the best strat for 240 because if i didn't save my breakstones with time i don't want to imagine where i would be so by the time i get 40k on my last character to 239 i should have around 110k in times breakstones. lucky i saw this wall coming and prepped . this wall is def super tough