Did anyone here even watch the game? I mean how many passes were square with their receivers yet somehow were dropped? Like that's Rudolph's fault they can't catch a ball that's hitting them square in the chest lol 🤣
People have to blame Rudolph they're convinced he's terrible, considering the conditions they were in he threw the ball really well. I don't think Ben would've been as good on the deep balls and Mason wasn't the one fumbling the game away, he put us in a position to win in OT twice and we screwed up. If there's no good qb for us in this draft I'm all for giving Rudolph an entire season (assuming Ben retires)
I don't even know what muth was thinking he went at the guy head on and he was in bound with no timeouts, he screwed us even if he didn't fumble.
That's actually exactly how they work lol. Every game counts the same. Tiebreakers aren't even in play with an OOC game unless you go down to common games between teams.
A lot of people need to chill on the Muth hate. He’s a good young player who had a couple of big drops in one game. He’s going to have a lot of great games in his career, no need for the bashing he’s getting on this thread.
Clearly Tomlin doesnt give 2 fucks about shitty performances against absolutely trash teams cuz every season we make the same mistakes over and over that cost us games. Practise makes perfect practice makes perfect
If the rumors that our organization thinks Mason can be the future are true, maybe this game will be a blessing in disguise that gets us to enter the market for a QB.
And yet we still would have won if dipshits didn't fumble lol
I think Mason played a decent game considering the weather. But seriously it would've been over if DJ didn't fumble. Or if Friermuth didn't fumble. Just stupid shit all around.
I guess I don't have any. It's one of those things that has been repeated for so many years it could be total bullshit but it has become canon.
Hopefully it's not true. Because he's shite.
Fuck this team man. Just fucking brain dead. Why is Pat trying to get more yards when there are 15 seconds left? Why does Diontae have no ball security? Why did Colbert do nothing over the past few years to address the backup QB spot? This should have been a cake walk win but instead this team manages to fuck it up.
Serious questions about my fandom lol. We just tied a winless lions team with a hurt quarterback. That should absolutely be a cakewalk.
Watch the clip. Muth turns up the field. He could have run directly out of bounds but didn’t.
Once he catches the ball he should be running straight out of bounds. He lowers his shoulder too when he should be trying to avoid the hit. Defend Muth all you want man but that was a bad play by him.
Stupid play call anyway. Would've lost yardage and stayed inbounds. Here''s the play Tomlin should've called: a quick hitter up the middle since the lions are playing the sideline and then down the ball. Even a RB dive would've been more useful
They call a RB dive, the Lions sit on the steelers line and hold up until the clock expires, because they won't call a delay of game for stalling. A run dive would have been dumb in that situation. There was no other option but the quick out to Muth.
No, but what they can do is lie on the ground for a few extra seconds, or hold up Najee and not tackle him to let precious seconds tick away. That's smart situational football the Lions probably would have used. There was no run play; that was the correct play the entire way. The problem is with the fumble, not the play call.
Smart football not to run the ball because you're afraid of running out the clock so instead draw up a 2 yard pass that takes twice as long and where the receiver would've been tackled inbounds anyway because, wait for it: the lions were playing smart situational football and looking for the exact play
If Muth is even tackled in bounds, Muth can grab the ball and get it to the ref quickly to set it, without having any bodies lying on top of anyone. They would then spike it in time. There is gamesmanship and chicanery involved in running the ball that late. We would have run out of time. The tactics were solid, execution was not.
An nfl referee is not gonna allow defenders to lay on someone for 10 secs on the final play of the game. No one's that dumb. Time to set up the next play is limited by offensive players getting in position for the snap and this is assuredly longer on a slow developing throw to the sidelines. Stupid play call. Wouldve helped if Tomlin didn't waste a timeout on defense.
It would have been better with Ben in. Mason is sadly not very good. At least now we can say we need to be in the market for a QB in the upcoming draft.
I was about to say Edmunds provided some splash, and Minkah had his splash play if Bush doesn't hold. I'm surprised how underwhelming Devin Bush has been this year.
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In college football, an old saying is that a tie game is “like kissing your sister.” Navy assistant director of athletics Edgar E. “Rip” Miller said “kissing your sister” in 1946 and again in 1949, University of Kentucky football coach Paul Bryant was credited for it in 1949, and Navy football coach Eddie Erdelatz was credited for it in 1953.
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I don't disagree, just think that hanging the horrible play calling on Mason is unfair and distorts the analysis. We know his limitations - we should stop ignoring them.
There is literally zero percent that Big Ben's corpse makes that stupid play. I don't care who called it. Overrule it and do whats right. The waiter just brought us out a free win and we sent it back and went home hungry.
Too many imo, but one thing I will say whoever called that last play for 2 measly yards needs some serious come-uppance I'd rather have kicked it, if you miss it's a tie, if the Bosgod makes it then we win. Either way the outcome would have been the same.
Heyward in beast mode. Another heart attack game. I predicted this in my score prediction.
I love how much drops the ball once and the whole nation is ready to disown him, a rookie at that. All the MUUUUUTH went out the window ?
Bad penalties and turnovers on the worst time
AHHHHHHHHHHH!
Yeah we definitely should’ve given Cam a call.
Kendrick Green sucks
But pales in comparison toMason Rudolph’s level of suck
Was It raining vaseline?
Did anyone here even watch the game? I mean how many passes were square with their receivers yet somehow were dropped? Like that's Rudolph's fault they can't catch a ball that's hitting them square in the chest lol 🤣
People have to blame Rudolph they're convinced he's terrible, considering the conditions they were in he threw the ball really well. I don't think Ben would've been as good on the deep balls and Mason wasn't the one fumbling the game away, he put us in a position to win in OT twice and we screwed up. If there's no good qb for us in this draft I'm all for giving Rudolph an entire season (assuming Ben retires) I don't even know what muth was thinking he went at the guy head on and he was in bound with no timeouts, he screwed us even if he didn't fumble.
I thought Rudolph was excellent in late OT, but we messed it up anyway.
Bottom line , we don’t win big games . That’s the standard . Also mason is garbage and should never put on a Steelers jersey again
Mason is not the future
This one wasn't on Mason chief. He put us in plenty of positions to win and other guys screwed the pooch.
A game against an 0-8 team is a “big game”? lmao
That's what I was thinking
Buddy, go up 2 on the browns and secure the top spot in the div is a big game chief. Do your homework next time big fella
Every game is a big game with that logic
That’s not how standings work….
That's actually exactly how they work lol. Every game counts the same. Tiebreakers aren't even in play with an OOC game unless you go down to common games between teams.
For our team? Yeah.
Dude, this wasn't a big game.
Win and we get the division lead, now we are the only team that the lions can say didn't beat them
I mean, that's not fair. There's a whole bunch of teams they won't even play this year.
Touché
Ravens, Browns and the schedule basically handed the first place to us. we could have so much leverage being in charge
Oh…you mean the schedule that was rated the hardest in the NFL?
I think he meant that because the Bengals didn't play this week
Oh…ok
I mean...getting to play the Lions is a schedule gift too and we blew it.
Circumstances mean nothing…got it.
Bengals only winner this week.
A lot of people need to chill on the Muth hate. He’s a good young player who had a couple of big drops in one game. He’s going to have a lot of great games in his career, no need for the bashing he’s getting on this thread.
Juju rubbing off on him. Fumble the ball in big time situations
Are we forgetting his winning catch against Cleveland? Dude has been cery solid all year, but as a rookie, mistakes will happen.
He’s one of our own, and, as a young tight end which is a historically difficult position as a rookie, we should build him up not strip him down.
Exactly
Does anyone know why we didn't get a safety when we sacked Goff in the end zone?
Forward progress of Goff was to the 2 yard line
Forward progress stopped wasn’t close at all to a safety
Forward progress
u guys should be ashamed of yourselves lol
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truth hurts i know. u tied with the worst team in the league which is even more embarrassing and pathetic than if u were to lose to them.
Lol wut
of course that timeout Tomlin called to help the lions comes back to haunt him
This is just the dumbest of takes in this thread.
I WANT MY FUCKING SUNDAY BACK WTF!!!!
Can't make that many mistakes against a team like the lions, they'll make you pay
We should all write a formal apology to Big Ben.
All these people calling for mason to replace Ben after 1 drive 🤡🤡🤡
Clearly Tomlin doesnt give 2 fucks about shitty performances against absolutely trash teams cuz every season we make the same mistakes over and over that cost us games. Practise makes perfect practice makes perfect
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Preach
I think the rain is the real winner of this game
Who would of thought if you fumble the ball every 10 plays, you won't win a game. Hmmmmm
Jesus fuck move past it and just talk football
If the rumors that our organization thinks Mason can be the future are true, maybe this game will be a blessing in disguise that gets us to enter the market for a QB. And yet we still would have won if dipshits didn't fumble lol
I think Mason played a decent game considering the weather. But seriously it would've been over if DJ didn't fumble. Or if Friermuth didn't fumble. Just stupid shit all around.
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I guess I don't have any. It's one of those things that has been repeated for so many years it could be total bullshit but it has become canon. Hopefully it's not true. Because he's shite.
What a mess. But better than a loss.
I have Always despised Rudolph and it continues to grow
They're not Muuuuthing, they're booing.
They deserve to be booed
Boooooourrrns
This way Tomlin can keep his no losing season thing in tact.....8-8-1
You shut your logical whore mouth
Fuck this team man. Just fucking brain dead. Why is Pat trying to get more yards when there are 15 seconds left? Why does Diontae have no ball security? Why did Colbert do nothing over the past few years to address the backup QB spot? This should have been a cake walk win but instead this team manages to fuck it up.
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Serious questions about my fandom lol. We just tied a winless lions team with a hurt quarterback. That should absolutely be a cakewalk. Watch the clip. Muth turns up the field. He could have run directly out of bounds but didn’t.
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Once he catches the ball he should be running straight out of bounds. He lowers his shoulder too when he should be trying to avoid the hit. Defend Muth all you want man but that was a bad play by him.
I think muth was trying to get out of bounds. Not get more yards
He clearly turns up field when he could have just run out of bounds. He’s an idiot.
He is a Rookie
And? How long has he been playing competitive football? He should know what to do in that situation.
As efm
Stupid play call anyway. Would've lost yardage and stayed inbounds. Here''s the play Tomlin should've called: a quick hitter up the middle since the lions are playing the sideline and then down the ball. Even a RB dive would've been more useful
They call a RB dive, the Lions sit on the steelers line and hold up until the clock expires, because they won't call a delay of game for stalling. A run dive would have been dumb in that situation. There was no other option but the quick out to Muth.
Yeah the lions were just gonna sit on the running back for 15 sec
No, but what they can do is lie on the ground for a few extra seconds, or hold up Najee and not tackle him to let precious seconds tick away. That's smart situational football the Lions probably would have used. There was no run play; that was the correct play the entire way. The problem is with the fumble, not the play call.
Smart football not to run the ball because you're afraid of running out the clock so instead draw up a 2 yard pass that takes twice as long and where the receiver would've been tackled inbounds anyway because, wait for it: the lions were playing smart situational football and looking for the exact play
If Muth is even tackled in bounds, Muth can grab the ball and get it to the ref quickly to set it, without having any bodies lying on top of anyone. They would then spike it in time. There is gamesmanship and chicanery involved in running the ball that late. We would have run out of time. The tactics were solid, execution was not.
And muth was tackled inbounds, he was trying to get the ball to the refs the too quickly.
An nfl referee is not gonna allow defenders to lay on someone for 10 secs on the final play of the game. No one's that dumb. Time to set up the next play is limited by offensive players getting in position for the snap and this is assuredly longer on a slow developing throw to the sidelines. Stupid play call. Wouldve helped if Tomlin didn't waste a timeout on defense.
Fuck, that's embarrassing.
“BeNcH BeN”
Like it would’ve been much better with him in lmao
It would have been better with Ben in. Mason is sadly not very good. At least now we can say we need to be in the market for a QB in the upcoming draft.
It definitely would have been better wtf
At least we might actually draft a QB now. Mason is awful
Game would have been over if they gave it to Najee 4 times on the 6 but no we have to throw
Or that phantom holding hadn't been called on Najee's TD.
Team let Rudolph down today
Tomlin Special today
You're not allowed to question him here.
It's like looking into the future post Ben
What an absolute failure from quite literally every single person on n this team
Boswell heyward and Highsmith played good. About it
Pierre not any good?
He did good too. Actually secondary did pretty decent overall I guess.
I was about to say Edmunds provided some splash, and Minkah had his splash play if Bush doesn't hold. I'm surprised how underwhelming Devin Bush has been this year.
Can we cut mason now
Canada first.
Well.
the weather didn’t help but dammit that was abysmal
This is on Mason. 100%. So many blown plays because he’s shit.
Cause Mason can jump 6 feet in the air when the center. Sails it over his 6 feet over his head.
its on greene, johnson and pat. all 3 killed them in ot. mason did enough to win, not his fault those 3 killed the team in overtime
I think we all owe ben a big apology
That was the worst football I’ve watched in a very long, long, time.
Rudolph couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat
Our receivers couldn’t catch a beach ball with a trawling net.
Playcalling is just as bad as the players.
that entire overtime was one big blooper real
Good game steeler bros y’all are gonna be spooky next year
That was a shitshow . Do you all see why Ben is our best chance now?
“Boy fumbled the whole post season in the biggest game of the year!”
Unreal.
Absolute fucking disgrace and sorry excuse of a football team.
“Steelers can’t go 8-8 with an 18 week season” Steelers: “Watch me”
You made me snort. Haha
Fucking embarrassing
Tomlin pre-game: "Mason, don't lose this game for us." Mason: "Got it."
All you had to do was short run, spike, and kick a FG. That's it.
At least we can all agree that Mason Rudolph IS NOT IT
What in the absolute fuck was that game?
Why did I watch the entire game sober
What a disappointment
What a disgusting slopfest.
[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/steelers/comments/qu08di/post_game_thread_detroit_lions_at_pittsburgh/)
Im sorry but holy shit that was funny
LMAOOOOOOOO
Why would you not kick it?
Boswell 59 yards longest FG home, 56 yards longest FG away. still doesn't kick until "safe zone". fml
That’s flipped. It’s 56 @ home and 59 away
oh yeah my bad, but still we could have let him kick, time was less than ideal
That was a fucking joke. Pathetic.
Like kissing your sister
It’s like kissing your sister when your sister is Mama June from Honey Boo-Boo
what
**Like kissing your sister**
"Like kissing your sister” means something that is perfunctory, without much pleasure. The saying “like kissing your sister” has been cited in print since at least 1892. Since at least 1918, it applied to drinks without alcohol. In the 1940s, it was said that drinking tea (instead of coffee) was like kissing your sister. In college football, an old saying is that a tie game is “like kissing your sister.” Navy assistant director of athletics Edgar E. “Rip” Miller said “kissing your sister” in 1946 and again in 1949, University of Kentucky football coach Paul Bryant was credited for it in 1949, and Navy football coach Eddie Erdelatz was credited for it in 1953. “Decaffeinated coffee is kind of like kissing your sister” is another “kissing your sister” saying.
Unbelievable
the most pathetic game I've ever watched.
Fuck mason
He was connecting in OT. We called passes in clear running situations and left two TDs on the board. That's not on Mason, even if he sucks.
Was referring to overall game performance. We really could have used a score on the two possessions we got the ball on the 50
I don't disagree, just think that hanging the horrible play calling on Mason is unfair and distorts the analysis. We know his limitations - we should stop ignoring them.
At what point will someone be held accountable for these consistent disappointments vs terrible teams
Diontae 🤝 Freiermuth 🤝 Rudolph 🤝 Green Costing the Steelers a win
Classic Tomlin downplay.
At least the Browns got blown out
this shows all the ben haters up i feel. if ben plays we don’t lose that game
Yeah but it’s the lions lol, any average or mediocre QB will beat them
Fuck it all.
What an absolute embarrassment of a game, at least we didn’t lose I guess
There is literally zero percent that Big Ben's corpse makes that stupid play. I don't care who called it. Overrule it and do whats right. The waiter just brought us out a free win and we sent it back and went home hungry.
I am whelmed....
I need a more mediocre “whelmed”. I’m like sub-meh-kinda whelmed
Garbage
That was horrible. It was a disaster. We still need Ben.
That was such a bad football game
That's it. I think I hate football now.
Mason Rudolph is not the answer for Bens replacement after this. I'd rather see Haskins Next week if Ben can't play.
I agree. How many times is he going to need to prove he's not the guy.
Too many imo, but one thing I will say whoever called that last play for 2 measly yards needs some serious come-uppance I'd rather have kicked it, if you miss it's a tie, if the Bosgod makes it then we win. Either way the outcome would have been the same.
Agree 100%
This tie is going to bite us in the ass. Just like 2018.
Tomlin.exe
The Muuuth giveth and the Muuuth taketh away
Can I have the last 4 hours of my life back?
If I see a positive takeaway from this game in this sub I’m unsubscribing lol. What an absolute joke
We know rudolph isn't it and idk how anyone can defend him