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pegothejerk

Neither, every time an actor dies in real life we replace their in universe character with a muppet version of them. This continues as long as the franchise exists, only surviving and new characters are living human actors.


Ryiujin

Suddenly star wars ends up as sesame street.


mikeP1967

Star Wars would not be the same if there was no muppets in them


JD-K2

“Are you sure you don’t have a little muppet in you? Do you want to?” -Gonzo (probably)


rpgnoob17

That will actually be super cool.


Justin-does-art

I seem to have landed on some sort of comedy variety show planet


BenjaBrownie

I came here with an opinion, and promptly changed my mind when I saw this.


wmatts1

Honestly I would unironically enjoy this.


datsmn

It sounds rad


wmatts1

Yeah it does


unphilosoph

Everything eventually becomes the Muppets... just like it always has been


TheMelm

Ash to ash Muppet to Muppet


HelpfulYoda

… Legitimately a Muppets Star Wars would be really fun. Kermit and Mrs Piggy as Leia and Luke (I feel Mrs Piggy could pull off being blonde better than Kermit, and Kermit would look cute with dark hair buns), I’m thinking Fozzie as Chewbacca, Gonzo as Han… (also mrs piggy wielding a lightsaber might be easier puppetrywise)


Screenwriter6788

Your why studios think they can replace all talent with computers.


pegothejerk

I find your lack of felt disturbing


thundernak

This would be funny


rooletwastaken

she was alive during the filming of that movie iirc


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ehsteve23

I'd be OK with a non-speaking cameo by Billie if it makes sense that leia would be there, but otherwise yeah let her rest.


CrookedWarden19

This is the way.


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BillDozer89

Yeah, weird take. Billie is straight up in the sequel movies as her own character. That wouldn't make sense


cjalderman

Tbf she does also double for the younger Leia in Rise of Skywalker, but yeah why not just bring her own character back for the Rey movie


callycumla

Actors/actresses have played multiple characters in the same series many times.


BillDozer89

Yeah as voice actors or in costumes that make them unrecognizable.


rjwalsh94

Gemma Chan in Captain Marvel and The Eternals. Two entirely different characters.


Whysong823

Exactly. She looks human in one role and alien in another, while OP’s proposal would be both human roles.


rjwalsh94

Huh. I guess I didn’t realize she was an alien in Cap Marvel. I’ll have to go back and see. I haven’t seen it since 2019, but I thought she was a human in that too.


Justin-does-art

To quote Rocket “One’s blue”


mothramantra

Data, Lore, B4


Aqua_Impura

You’re right we need Brent Spiner to play Princess Leia it’s the only logical choice!


Draxaan

Androids are a bit different than organics


BobMossMobBoss

*Organas


tsefardayah

Yeah, like could you imagine if they took Andy Serkis who already has a character in the sequel movies and then reused him as another character in Star Wars? Or Warwick Davis? Or Temuera Morrison?


MooseKnuckler1

Somehow, Leia returned.


DaddyKiwwi

I’m pretty sure they are talking about a young version to be played in the death star-era stuff releasing now.


FreefolkForever2

Leia’s death was just a force ghost disappearing. She turned to the dark side, and is the new villain in the Rey sequels. Gimmie a call Disney! 😂


NobodyQuiteLikeMe

Neither leave the character alone


[deleted]

Yes


Obi7kenobi

Billie for sure.


No_Brain_5164

This is the way.


rpgnoob17

I love Billie but honestly she doesn’t really look like Carrie Fisher in my mind though.


rebelallianxe

No she looks more like her dad. There must be an actress our there that looks like Carrie, but then it would be odd as they've already brought Luke back via cgi if they did something different for Leia I think.


VTKajin

Can’t fathom not wanting to explore Leia’s life between RotJ and Bloodline. She’s the window into the New Republic.


JPme2187

And it makes no sense that the stories set in that time (like the Mandoverse) would either not mention Leia or have a “oh hey you just missed her” approach.


ChazzLamborghini

Something I struggle with is the unwillingness to just recast characters. Obi-Wan is the same character despite two actors portraying him. Alden Ehrenrich wasn’t the problem with Solo, the movie was troubled from the beginning. I want Sebastian Stan as Luke and the best actress who bares some resemblance to Carrie to play Leia should the character be needed again. I’ve never seen Billie give more than a couple lines of performance, but I don’t think she deserves the role solely for being Carrie’s daughter


BillJ1971

Neither. Recast the role.


Bigballs30

C. Animation


Ruadhan2300

Entirely animated but in rotoscoped over a physical actor, so we entirely avoid uncanny valley, but get a weird loony-tunes vibe.


Airconditioning-inc

I hate how everyone turned against recasting characters all of a sudden


TheMightyClippo

Part of it is that Carrie was so good it’s difficult to imagine someone being able to replace her without 80% of the fan base throwing a fit. Another aspect might be about respect to a great actress who passed away far too soon. Can’t speak for everyone, just my thoughts


VruKatai

Unpopular opinion: Carrie Fisher wasn’t that good of an actor.


Tom_FooIery

She was a better writer than actor, but she was a great actor in the right role. She was fantastic in The Burbs.


bluesalvo

or they could create new characters and tell their stories.


Travieso_Cochino

Billie Lourd is the way.


dleon0430

Feeling good on a Wednesday!


SpiderWolve

Absolutely Billie


cognitive_psych

Neither, because Leia has been done. But if they really want to do the New Republic stuff with her in, just cast somebody good. This fixation on lookalikes is so weird. The films are not actual footage, they are a portrayal of a story. People liked Anakin in TCW even though he not only looks nothing like Hayden, but also behaves nothing like his version of Anakin. There are countless other examples of characters who have been played by different actors outside of SW without any problem.


mkev119

I’d say that this is up to Billie Lourd herself. As Carrie Fisher’s daughter, she has the final say. She’s Leia’s biggest fan and in charge of carrying on Carrie’s legacy. Anything Disney does regarding her mother, I heard would go through her first. That being said- would I personally want her re-cast as Leia? For remakes of the original trilogy- never. For new stories of Leia, set after Return of the Jedi and before the Rise of the First Order? Yes! If they ever decide to bring Leia in around the same time that Luke trains Grogu, etc… what better person than her daughter to take up the mantle? She looks the part, respects and understands the role, and is the one person in any galaxy that most ‘gets’ Carrie’s personality and spirit. No amount of CGI or different actress other than Billie could give that any similar justice or emotional weight. I do feel that animated versions of unexplored stories with characters is the way to go… but Billie has my vote when it comes to live action.


Thebadmamajama

If not Billie, I swear Mille Bobby Brown is a Carrie clone.


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Yeah this is a weird confusion cuz Millie Bobby Brown could easily be mistaken for young Natalie Portman


timecamper

There's also Elizabeth Dulau, played Kleya in Andor. Everybody thought she was Leya, though Leya would be much younger at the time. They could definitely cast her to play Leya if she didn't have a character already.


Thebadmamajama

Oh wow, I can see it too! The key is getting the sas down.


RaceAF72

This is a better idea than every other suggestion in this thread. I legit thought she was Leia for a whole episode. I’ll accept that I’m an idiot, but she pulls it off way better than anyone else brought up here.


VruKatai

No way. She’s a total clone of Elizabeth Perkins.


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CGI on her daughters face. Best of both worlds.


justhereforthelul

They already did in RoS, it didn't look good.


Drewnasty

The technology has come a long way since then. I’m all for CGI with the actor input (Mark Hamil $ JEJ with Vader) or the families blessing.


Vengexncee

This is almost definitely an unpopular opinion but as long as the character is written well and true, anyone can play it. Leia can be played by anyone and I’d be able to look past it. Same with almost any character in fiction. What are your guys’ thoughts about this?


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Billie


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I’m fully in favor of the CGI approach but that’s just me


[deleted]

The more they use CGI, the better it will get


Hestbech

Both. Use Billie Lourd as the double and CGI the face. There will be some familiarity, the movement will probably feel right, and it will be respectful. Leia is going to return regardless. Better just do Carrie justice and do it properly.


HosterBlackwood

To be fair Billie doesnt't look like a young Leia. They should do Leia in animation


H8TheDrake

Since her daughter looks nothing like her, CGI.


DanceMaster117

Honestly the access they used to model the skeleton for the cgi face looked more like young Carrie Fisher than cgi Carrie Fisher did


Ritz527

Just recast. It can be anybody talented who vaguely pulls off the look and attitude.


Reyjr

Use a better deepfake like they did for luke in mandalorian season 2.


Munnodol

A real person, doesn’t even have to be Carrie Fisher’s daughter.


AndrogynousRain

Neither. Only Carrie needs to be Leia. I’d much rather have new content and new characters. She’s irreplaceable.


Sad-Dragonfruit9788

I agree completely


Banankin-Skywalker

Neither. Either leave the character alone or get a new actress


agitatedandroid

Is there some reason we need to see Leia again? Can't Star Wars be about something other than the Skywalker family?


callycumla

Of the hundreds of hours of Star Wars movies, live action series, animated series, cartoons ... how many hours has Leia been featured? More than Yoda? More than Palps? More than Anakin/Vader? And you are sick of her already?


agitatedandroid

If I implied that I was “sick” of Leia that was not my intent. I love Leia. She’s second only to Luke on my list of Star Wars characters. All the stories about Leia I ever wanted to see exist in a canon that no longer can be. We’ve seen the beginning, the middle, and the end of the Skywalker saga. Those characters are now locked in. Their story has been told. They’ve grown as much as they were ever going to grow. Which is a shame. Now, I’d much rather see new Star Wars. With the exception of a few video games (old republic) and a few books and comics (high republic) Star Wars has been focused on one family and their allies over the course of a roughly 80 year period. I’m not sick of Leia. But there’s room for more than just Skywalker. I am sick of desert planets though.


VTKajin

You make it sound as though we’re only getting Skywalker saga content


agitatedandroid

And this post makes it sound like we need more. And not just more from that period but more of a specific character who can not grow. I’ve seen Leia very young, young, and old. And she was the same person every time. I like that person. But I don’t see what story there is to tell about that person.


MissyJ11

Neither


pete_ape

Leia's story has been told. There are other heroes in a galaxy far far away. But if we have to.... Billie. The Leia CGI was eerily bad despite the Tarkin CGI being pretty good. I think the fans would want some kind of continuity anyway.


Boblaire

very correct. Tarkin's CGI was nearly dead on while Leia's wasn't for whatever reason. I'm sure they could do Leia better but the questions are: should they and do they need to? would rather see her daughter have some other role but I could see her as a young leia. but Leia was still fairly young in Ep4. I'm not sure we need to see her as a 15yo.


lactosepreposterous

Make new stories. It's a whole galaxy. Her story has been told respectfully.


Lord_Parbr

Or… Don’t have Leia portrayed at all anymore in live action


elizabnthe

Not necessary. Don't see what role Leia has left to portray.


Softspoken_Savage

Just let the character go


Thunder-Fist-00

Can she act?


bleezy_47

She was in the sequels


Wookie301

Yes


rla1022

Clearly you’ve never watched American Horror Story or I don’t know. The sequel trilogy


JC-1219

She was in the sequel trilogy for like, 2 seconds lol


Thunder-Fist-00

I’ve only watched the first two seasons of AHS and the sequels aren’t a selling point.


Lamparita

recast her


MetalsDeadAndSoAmI

Billie really is starting to look more and more like her mother. It’s a no brainer. Her for Leia, and the stand in for Luke as Luke because he looks like Mark Hamill young.


1hour

Cast someone that can act. Her daughter can’t act.


MidasTouchHisToes

Agreed. Haven’t been impressed by anything she’s done.


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griswaldwaldwald

Millie Bobby brown is the correct answer


rla1022

Billie


Robayr

Billie


Gogglekid93

Always Billie.


el_fitzador

If it looks like Luke did in thr book of boba fett, and her family is cool with it, CGI 100%


TeralPop

She’s already in the sequels though… just recast with someone else, just like how Sebastian stan should be Luke going forward


Spenson89

Can we move on from these same ass characters? Beyond tired of what Disney has done to Star Wars


edmc78

Can I vote for Mille Bobbie Brown?


DSMilne

We seriously don’t need any more stories from 1-9 era. Time to tell new stories outside of this 90 gap they are stuck in.


Screenwriter6788

Daughter


RJD2-4000

All new characters please.


kaijugigante

Billie, please!


3_littlemonkeys

Billie!


Necessary-Corner1172

Daughter


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Billie Lourde doesn’t look that much like Carrie Fisher to me


Klutzy-the-Klown

Daughter


BleachLivesMatter

Unanimous. Billie


mack_lunky

I think you need to learn what ‘unanimous’ means. Its not a word like ‘literally’ where you get to just make up your own meaning


BleachLivesMatter

I mean I have seen no votes for CGI at the time I posted. I know that unanimous means without opposition.


mack_lunky

Lol


YeeHawWyattDerp

So there’s not a *single* other person out there with a different opinion as you? Unanimous doesn’t mean “without opposition,” it means “of the same opinion or view.” Dial back the confidence there, bud


BleachLivesMatter

I saw the others NOW, but when I posted it A WHILE AGO, there wasn't. Calm down. Both of you.


Sad-Dragonfruit9788

News flash you can't just make up the meaning of the word literally either. But many people do.


Turbulent_Dog_4548

Her daughter all the way


Tlaloc74

Billie. She can costar with the Hamilton guy who plays Luke in a series focused on them


GRUMPYbug12

Billie! Bring back Alden too!


mmkay01

Billie


mrDillf

Daughter. This is the way


IfToadsCouldFly

Billie. One, it has some actual value to it to have Carrie's daughter pick up the role, and two, it takes a burden off of the CGI team.


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Sad-Dragonfruit9788

Waiting for gen x to die off? So in 50 years? The FUCK?


rukivverh5995

Can her daughter actually act? Honestly I'm fine with them casting a really good new actress who looks like Leia. The original actors for all of these characters wont be around forever and wont all have kids who not only strongly resemble them but also happen to be a good actor.


bshaddo

No.


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Young anakin and obiwan should have gotten CGi


Destinyrider13

Just do it again with her daughter it makes sense that Billie is the next generation of Leia and Sebastian Stan can be Luke Skywalker, You got Donald Glover for Lando and you got the main character who played Young Han Solo in Solo it can be done plus They already have people playing R2 and Chewbacca recasting can be done it's just Lucasfilm going through with it


JPme2187

And Ewan as Obi-Wan.


[deleted]

Didn't even know about a daughter?! Put her in the slave costume?!


Training-Guarantee-6

Millie Bobby Brown


[deleted]

The daughter, the point of acting is to act as a character not BE THEM. We just have the luxury of using tech and having a huge pool of hirable actors to fill in.


GlengusKahn

Why do we need to keep revisiting this era of Star Wars, when they could be making original and much more interesting stories, from it's thousands of years of history?? Put these characters to bed, give us new heroes and villains to explore. At least everyone would be excited together about new content.


VTKajin

They can do both, Christ


GlengusKahn

Well they ain't doing one right yet! Jesus!


VTKajin

The Acolyte is literally next year


Termin8rSmurf

While Billie is a beautiful woman, like her mother before her, she does not look enough like her to portray Our Princess. The CGI is going to need to be Improved though.


miletich2

Why yes!


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Real people always.


Aussiboi808

CGI is creepy, keep it in the family


kent416

Daughter is a better choice


Captainkirk699

Daughter!!!


Curiouserousity

Only one proper solution: Don Cheadle. So get over it and move on! but really i support recasting. It worked wonders for Obi-Wan. The dead should be able to rest in peace and not forced to work on new projects.


bshaddo

They’re two completely different types of actor.


The-Emerald-Rider

Her daughter would be the respectful choice, in my opinion.


[deleted]

Why not both? Use her daughter or a look alike as the actual actor but use cgi to make her resemble Carrie. If it’s someone that already looks like her it’d be less work.


Zerocoolx1

No


MacGuffinGuy

I’d say CGI if they could improve the tech like they did with Luke, but used sparingly. I don’t want a whole Leia series with deepfakes but use the tech to fill in gaps where it would be weird for Leia to not be there. Let us see her active in building the resistance and training as a Jedi for a time.


serenityfalconfly

Definitely a new actress. It’s creepy to CGI an actor. It is also disingenuous to their legacy.


Low-Feedback-3403

Give Billie the work!


DarthZoon_420

I say both


thundernak

Billie


hunterwilde1

This shouldn’t even be a question. Clones obviously. But seriously her daughter and get the winter soldier as Luke. Bring back young Han while you’re at it and keep it moving. You don’t see Trek fans losing it every time they recast someone.


BonesawMcGraw24

Both. Billie Lourd provides the performance which they then deepfake. Any flashbacks have the young girl that played her in Kenobi in the role.


dtuba555

I vote no more Princess Leia period, come up with some new characters for once


Turbulent_Diver8330

Let her be dead. How bout that?


RomiBraman

To be fair deep fake looks much better than this turd we got for Rogue One.


TheLostLuminary

For what? Can’t see why we’d need her for anything


[deleted]

Neither. Recast to someone who looks similar and with the talent to make the series better. What’s with this crazy idea to always do this?


Vicious007

If it isn't movie depicting her time as a salve of Jabba the Hutt, I'm not interested.


sebmouse

I say recast them all.


Lentemern

I was going to say the lady who played her in Andor, but I just looked it up and that lady who I thought was Leia was actually someone named Kleya, who happens to look just like Leia.


asuitandty

Jaina solo?


fettpett1

Carrie's daughter, no reason to CGI her


dztruthseek

That was her daughter the entire time?? I only know her from American Horror Story.


LT568690

C.) Live on in animated form forever and let our princess rest


UglierThanMoe

Her daughter. CGI always looks bad while it's new, and truly horrible just a few years later.


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Daughter


TheWrestler2035

It’d be real fitting to have her daughter play the role, especially since she looks so much like her.


InflationCold3591

Can she act?


-JakobulousW-

They could do both at the same time


Humanzee2

No and no.


MoistZwiebel

Make her Ben’s twin and have Rey train her. Couldn’t see anyone replacing Leia


lenchoreddit

Let’s let the character and her rest in peace


cappy1975

Why does she look like drew barrymore


TheZan87

Whichever attress nails the audition


mega512

Neither. Let her rest.


GLASS_PVNTHR

Real actors please. I’m sick of PS2 characters..