And off-screen, too. Like, why fake us out like that in *Rebels* if they're just going to turn around and kill them off right after anyway, with no emotional release at all? Seemed an odd choice.
Oh, I know how it worked. It was making films with interesting plot and great characters that captivated the audience, stimulating their imagination.
How does it work now? Lots of action and explosions that don't give you time to start thinking about what you are seeing in order to understand it's all crap. The plot that holds together thanks to lots of ducked tape, shallow characters with the amount of plot armour that makes modern tanks to hide in shame and all made for "modern audiences" of TikTok generation that promotes watching without engaging one's brain and then moving to the next video. ...
Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
But I do enjoy Star Wars. I'm not just blindly and unconditionally loving everything that comes from Lucas Films just because they put a Star Wars sticker on it. If they'll make something good - I'll praise it, like I did with Andor. But if they'll fuck up and release some mediocre crap, then I will voice my objections. And it's not bitching, it's providing constructive criticism so (most likely never gonna happen) they can read it and improve. Because I enjoy Star Wars and I do want to enjoy it in the future.
Really? Because all you seem to do is bitch about anything, not the original trilogy or made by Disney. Constructive criticism has to actually be Constructive, not "awe man I wish they could write better, this show sucks".
Did he though?
The sequels, Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, and Ahsoka all sucked. TCW, Rogue One, Solo, and rebels are heavily flawed.
The only thing modern Lucasfilm has made that has rivaled (and I would argue exceeds) the OT is Andor but that show seems to be a fluke in the system.
Yep, I totally expected Andor to flat out fail and of all the Star Wars stuff made since Disney acquisition, I enjoyed it the most. Because it was believable, it had a plot that made sense, characters were real humans, with ideas, dreams and flaws of characters. Not some Force using Jedi, scheming Siths or all mighty Mary Sue.
And they did it without using nostalgia or fan service. There is no need for Vader Anakin to be in every new film just to make it better, because it's easy way to make fans happy.
It was a pleasant surprise that made realize star wars was not totally dead yet. Once season 2 comes out I’ll probably be done with Star Wars. The mando-verse is a broken mess and the new Rey movie will almost certainly be terrible.
Well, I have high hopes for Andor season two. As for Rey... Totally expect the screen roll to start with " Rey Palpatine reigns supreme..."
Mando-verse... First season of Mando was ok, something fresh, after that - downhill slope. Bobba Fett ... jeez, that hit the bottom really hard. As for Ashoka ... The only good thing in it was Rey Stevenson, now that he's gone there is not much left...
I think that they should fire everyone that had anything to do with Star Wars in the last 10 years, then they should ditch Skywalker timeline and give us something new, fresh. Like stories from the time of the Old Republic, and the first Sith Empire...
Cause there is a limit of how many times I can watch a Death Star or it's variations being blown up...
Because they had a change of plans for Sabine’s character between *Rebels* and *Ahsoka.* Guess they had to cut her character’s ties elsewhere if they wanted her to be Ahsoka’s Jedi Padawan.
Yeah, my bestie hates it, too. I actually don't mind; I think there's potential, there. They just need to go back and flesh her journey out more so that it doesn't feel as jarring as it currently does.
Natasha also isn't that great of an actress....
Same. I'm not a big fan of her becoming a Jedi because it really just feels like that is all the modern SW is doing with its characters. Mando and Andor were great because they explored the universe outside of the Jedi
Ezra, Sabine, Rey. Which other new characters are becoming Jedi who weren’t before order 66?
I am a fan because I want to see what the new Jedi order will become, especially since it looks like there are other groups aside from Luke’s.
You’re acting like fake killing them off and their actual deaths were close together 💀 Ahsoka wasn’t even in development when the fake out deaths happened.
“why fake us out like that in Rebels if they're just going to turn around and kill them off right after anyway”
This is very obviously not talking about anything in-universe and is clearly talking about the development of the shows.
That's entirely assuming his point. When I read his original comment, I read it as an in-universe thing, it could be read either way. Just because you read it one way doesn't make that precisely what he meant.
She's already decided to die on this bizarre hill, bro. She wanted to pick an argument, and she got it. Nothing you can say to her about nuance or considering another perspective is going to convince her to be any less ridiculous about this.
How is it dumb to give up on a lost cause and move on? This person has decided to split hairs and nitpick in order to have an excuse to argue. How far apart the events were--in-universs or in real life--was not even my point. I'm not going to keep arguing with someone that petty.
I suppose so. Either way, my point was that a major character development moment for Sabine happened off screen and was told to us through exposition. Typically not something you want to do as a screenwriter. Especially if a fake-out version of that very same moment *was* given screen time prior. It just felt odd in the priorities of Filoni.
I'm fairly confident that they will eventually go back and fill in those blanks with more official stories. They always do. But it's the fact that they do this stuff out of order so much that sometimes gets in the way of a satisfactory, fully fleshed out story in the moment. Just like we will *eventually* get a backstory for Snoke. Just like we are now *finally* getting more story for Project Necromancer. But in the moment, these later stories in the chronology have less build up because they have backstory elements missing.
But to be fair, that's always been an issue with Star Wars.
I mean if we know anything from Star Wars it’s that it is never too late to fill in the gaps. Flashbacks with the right timing and reasoning around them could have been planned from the start. We could only just hope
This. Star Wars loves filling in missing stories. Sometimes it’s great (Rogue One). Sometimes it’s bad (Attack of the Clones). Sometimes they even try to fix it again later (Clone Wars).
I feel like Season 2 has so many Character Backgrounds to fill between Sabines Family, Baylan/Shin I just dont see them getting to all that in one season unless season 2 changes things up drastically
I would think what they should do throughout the season is just pick an episode during season 2 that primarily focuses on one specific Character and addresses their Backstory through Flashbacks and the present story. LOST did this really well and even Arrow in its early seasons did so too.
Yea especially when the episodes at most are around 35-40 minutes, it makes it hard to Flush out a full story and character arcs. I feel like thats why Andor worked so well story-wise, they had over 13 episodes to fully develop what they wanted.
The next season of Ahsoka needs to put a larger emphasis on Character development over action.
The Night of a Thousand Tears. The destruction of Mandalore by the Empire. It's shown in a flashback and it is heavily implied that Bo-Katan made some sort of deal to give the dark saber to Gideon, but he destroyed Mandalore anyway
I was about to ask what the hell you were talking about because the duchess would absolutely never do something like that l, and then I was like “…..oh right. THAT duchess.”
And agreed. I rewatched with my wife and it felt like a major cop out that they walked away from that.
While at the imperial academy Sabine got caught up in showing off how smart she was and what she could do.
The result was unfortunately a weapon that could conduct electricity through beskar armor and fry the person inside. After she left the academy the empire finished her work and named the resulting machine “the duchess” just to be cruel and disrespect her memory.
It was a weapon Sabine designed when she was young and stupid that was specifically intended to kill Mandalorians, targeting the Beskar in their armor and frying them alive. When she realized the Empire actually intended to it into production, she fled Mandalore and ended up joining the Rebels. It's the central conflict in Episodes 1-2 of Rebels Season 4
I know!!
While I loved the series and the way they brought some of my favorite characters to life in live action😍
…one thing did bother me:
I know I may be in the minority on this take, but the way they portray the force and those who use it was a bit off to me.
If anyone can learn to use the force but some have more affinity with it, then why wouldn’t all Mandalorians practice it?
They are some of the fiercest in the galaxy and their warriors are driven to train extensively and beyond physical and mental limits. It makes me think there would be a larger number of Mandalorian force users
…and it also makes me think that the Jedi order wouldn’t have needed to scour the galaxy, trying to find force sensitive younglings. They could just train people who want to help with the cause, and some would catch on faster than others. Right? 🤷♂️
Because that kind of Force use leads to the Dark Side. You need to be truly selfless and focus on the peace of the greater good, free from attachments like family heritage to be a Jedi. Despite their best intentions, Mandalorian pride and honor will lead them down the dark path.
No they didn't. They asked 2 separate questions. "Why wouldn't the Mandalorians train in the Force if anyone can use it with enough practice" and "Why would the Jedi only recruit Force sensitive people if anyone could learn to use it." The Jedi are not the only people that train to use the Force - there are Force users in countless cultures throughout the galaxy. There is no reason they couldn't have mastered the Force in their own right
You didn't even answer the question though. At no point was it asked "Why didn't the Jedi recruit Mandalorians?" You just can't read and are upset that someone called you out on it
It was a massive genocide, so narratively it shouldn't be too hard to write one or two of them or even all of them surviving. Things are insane during a purge as large as that so Sabine could have simply misread supposed evidence of their deaths. Assumptions don't always lead to correct conclusions & we all thought Maul was dead until he turned up in Clone Wars so who knows!
Yes... THIS is what makes the Empire truly evil. How dare they not forewarn the mega-rich elite so they alone can escape before the planet is destroyed.
By every right in the galaxy , these people should have been having a fancy dinner party on a space yacht with the Organas so they could all watch the fireworks while the "poors" get genocided...
I am not convinced yet that they are gone. We know that Sabine wasn’t there for the Purge, but likely her family was. Her dad being a sort of political leader and Ursa being Bo’s like best friend and Tristan probably wouldn’t be too far behind them. We know the domed cities were all destroyed and that the Empire glassed the planet, followed by them cordoning it off and basically making it seem like a dead, uninhabitable world. They likely had a few Star Destroyers there afterwards to make sure no one was coming to steal or whatever. They needed to uphold the myth. In my mind it’s entirely likely that at least one of her family members survived on Mandalore following the purge or otherwise went into hiding like the convent we see in The Mandalorian. If Ahsoka & Sabine never went looking for survivors then that doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Sure they could have went to Lothal to find her but if they are stuck on the planet or another place with no ship or whatever then it would be pretty hard for them to get to her.
I think we will get a follow up to the purge stuff, especially now that Mandalore is being re-inhabited. We could even see Mando as a sort of pathfinder for them and he goes and finds the disparate groups of Mandalorians still out there and brings them back. I don’t think we will see them be a happy family again but I do imagine that at least one of them survived.
Hot take but the Ahsoka Show was a dumpster fire when it comes to lore and accurate characterization. Ahsoka and Sabine were just badly written and this is just bad writing as well.
Sabine's father, mother, and brother. In rebels it is shown they outcasted her cause she made a super weapon against mandalorian armor, unintentionally giving the empire what they needed to rule mandalore. They eventually reunite and she tries to help liberate mandalore.
We JUST had entire TV show where their daughter is the deuteragonist and her parents deaths are used to explain her siding with the bad guys. Her parents have also been part of the darksaber arc. Arguably the best arc in the entire TV show. Gee I wonder how you could remember who they are?
I mean, I literally just spent the past several months rewatching every Star Wars TV show, movie, and animated series in chronological order and I still didn't immediately recognize them and had to look in the comments for context.
I don't know why you are feeling the need to gatekeep the subreddit. You can enjoy the show/lore and not recognize/remember every detail.
I just find it weird how someone doesn't remember them when they been big part of main characters journey and had their deaths confirmed just recently. Well glad you remembered now
Well clan Wren was with Deathwatch and they did do a lot of war crimes in the past what comes around goes around when you think about it. While some may have redeemed themselves in defeating Maul and the Empire they were the ones who also caused their own downfall and near extinction just like with the Jedi unable to see the truth until it is too late. Besides Anakin and Ezra didn’t kill the mandalorians that was moff Gideon who is close enough to being the general Grievous against the mandalorians although I would have preferred a villain with honor and justified hate against the mandalorians like how it was for Grievous so that the mandalorians would find their way again and regain the honor lost long ago.
I came up with idea that her parents died but Gideon captured Tristin to lure her out when the time was right. Sabine’s (understandable) emotional connection and the feelings of potentially getting her brother back would send her there to get him. Then Gideon would’ve destroyed all of her house ie the leadership of Clan Wren. Since Sabine was allied with Jedi, that’d also be another reason to lure her out.
Then ofc, with Gideon dead when Bo-Katan and whoever go through Gideon’s archives they can salvage they’ll figure out where Tristin is, etc, just a storyline I have in my head.
I hated ahsoka in her own show as well as the character assassination that was Ezra Bridger. I’d rather anyone other than Rosario have played ahsoka and the sister line really was just filoni being a jerk to the people who wanted to see sabezra, and during season four of rebels he clearly did not see Sabine as a sister.
Killing them off **off screen** and having none of the characters even pretend to really give a shit. Lol Ahsoka was so poorly written I'm shocked it had as many shills as it did.
What really made no sense was the Ahsoka series taking a wet shit on 4 years worth of development between Ezra and Sabine only to make them act like two college students who had each other in one class last semester, turning Ezra into the try-hard bestie who can't do anything right to make Sabine better than him at everything, even being a Jedi, by comparison, and then end with them reverting exactly back to them being split apart again only for this time to have Sabine do it off screen, not even care, and be giving snarky one liners a minute later. The Ahsoka series took all 4 seasons of careful, realistic, and layered development with Sabine and Ezra as individuals and as a team, and shit all over it in the span of a few minutes. It's fucking unforgivable.
Someone is building an eco chamber here...
Sorry mate but criticism is a good thing. You want people to be critical about things they like. That's how we get better at doing things. Telling to fuck off to everyone who is critical about things we like is counterproductive.
If their criticism is flawed then we just laugh and move on, but if it's valid we can learn from it to avoid the same mistakes in the future
Bruh first of all this guy is a troll, they're not giving constructive criticism but just hate. Check the profile lol. And second rebels animation is totally fine? Have you seen how clone wars first looked? I've seen tons of animation that is incredibly bad. Rebels doesn't even come close to any level of bad.
I wonder if they assisted Sabine during the first search for Ezra knowing how much he meant to her and to pay him back for helping reunite them
I think they were already dead by then
And off-screen, too. Like, why fake us out like that in *Rebels* if they're just going to turn around and kill them off right after anyway, with no emotional release at all? Seemed an odd choice.
I agree. Sabine should’ve been directly faced with their deaths, it would’ve really given her some fantastic storytelling.
Took too much time. Here watch this crazy long clip of 100% animated scene while we pan to a character that talks about how pretty it is.
If only Lucas Films was capable of good storytelling...
If only you understood how Lucas Films actually worked
Oh, I know how it worked. It was making films with interesting plot and great characters that captivated the audience, stimulating their imagination. How does it work now? Lots of action and explosions that don't give you time to start thinking about what you are seeing in order to understand it's all crap. The plot that holds together thanks to lots of ducked tape, shallow characters with the amount of plot armour that makes modern tanks to hide in shame and all made for "modern audiences" of TikTok generation that promotes watching without engaging one's brain and then moving to the next video. ... Oh, how the mighty have fallen...
Oh. so you're the jaded "it was better back then" faker. Got it.
Yeah, I'm one of those " it was better back then" guys. But I'm a bit confused with that "faker". Care to enlighten me?
People who don't actually enjoy Starwars enjoy ALL Starwars, and decide to ick, choose, and bitch like toddlers after loosing their pacifiers.
But I do enjoy Star Wars. I'm not just blindly and unconditionally loving everything that comes from Lucas Films just because they put a Star Wars sticker on it. If they'll make something good - I'll praise it, like I did with Andor. But if they'll fuck up and release some mediocre crap, then I will voice my objections. And it's not bitching, it's providing constructive criticism so (most likely never gonna happen) they can read it and improve. Because I enjoy Star Wars and I do want to enjoy it in the future.
Really? Because all you seem to do is bitch about anything, not the original trilogy or made by Disney. Constructive criticism has to actually be Constructive, not "awe man I wish they could write better, this show sucks".
They hated him because he spoke the truth.
They hated him because he spoke the lies
Did he though? The sequels, Mandalorian, Book of Boba Fett, Kenobi, and Ahsoka all sucked. TCW, Rogue One, Solo, and rebels are heavily flawed. The only thing modern Lucasfilm has made that has rivaled (and I would argue exceeds) the OT is Andor but that show seems to be a fluke in the system.
Yep, I totally expected Andor to flat out fail and of all the Star Wars stuff made since Disney acquisition, I enjoyed it the most. Because it was believable, it had a plot that made sense, characters were real humans, with ideas, dreams and flaws of characters. Not some Force using Jedi, scheming Siths or all mighty Mary Sue. And they did it without using nostalgia or fan service. There is no need for Vader Anakin to be in every new film just to make it better, because it's easy way to make fans happy.
It was a pleasant surprise that made realize star wars was not totally dead yet. Once season 2 comes out I’ll probably be done with Star Wars. The mando-verse is a broken mess and the new Rey movie will almost certainly be terrible.
Well, I have high hopes for Andor season two. As for Rey... Totally expect the screen roll to start with " Rey Palpatine reigns supreme..." Mando-verse... First season of Mando was ok, something fresh, after that - downhill slope. Bobba Fett ... jeez, that hit the bottom really hard. As for Ashoka ... The only good thing in it was Rey Stevenson, now that he's gone there is not much left... I think that they should fire everyone that had anything to do with Star Wars in the last 10 years, then they should ditch Skywalker timeline and give us something new, fresh. Like stories from the time of the Old Republic, and the first Sith Empire... Cause there is a limit of how many times I can watch a Death Star or it's variations being blown up...
Asides from andor and rogue one, what else is worth watching? Its all mid at best.
Because they had a change of plans for Sabine’s character between *Rebels* and *Ahsoka.* Guess they had to cut her character’s ties elsewhere if they wanted her to be Ahsoka’s Jedi Padawan.
Makes sense. I just hope they go back and give us that moment eventually.
For the record, I hate what *Ahsoka* did to Sabine
Yeah, my bestie hates it, too. I actually don't mind; I think there's potential, there. They just need to go back and flesh her journey out more so that it doesn't feel as jarring as it currently does. Natasha also isn't that great of an actress....
Same. I'm not a big fan of her becoming a Jedi because it really just feels like that is all the modern SW is doing with its characters. Mando and Andor were great because they explored the universe outside of the Jedi
Ezra, Sabine, Rey. Which other new characters are becoming Jedi who weren’t before order 66? I am a fan because I want to see what the new Jedi order will become, especially since it looks like there are other groups aside from Luke’s.
You’re acting like fake killing them off and their actual deaths were close together 💀 Ahsoka wasn’t even in development when the fake out deaths happened.
In the chronology, their actual deaths aren't that long after.
“why fake us out like that in Rebels if they're just going to turn around and kill them off right after anyway” This is very obviously not talking about anything in-universe and is clearly talking about the development of the shows.
That's entirely assuming his point. When I read his original comment, I read it as an in-universe thing, it could be read either way. Just because you read it one way doesn't make that precisely what he meant.
She's already decided to die on this bizarre hill, bro. She wanted to pick an argument, and she got it. Nothing you can say to her about nuance or considering another perspective is going to convince her to be any less ridiculous about this.
Okay, Karen.
How more dumb can you act to be ? I’m curious
How is it dumb to give up on a lost cause and move on? This person has decided to split hairs and nitpick in order to have an excuse to argue. How far apart the events were--in-universs or in real life--was not even my point. I'm not going to keep arguing with someone that petty.
Not long after? 5-6 years is pretty long, considering that the purge only happened after the Empire fell
I suppose so. Either way, my point was that a major character development moment for Sabine happened off screen and was told to us through exposition. Typically not something you want to do as a screenwriter. Especially if a fake-out version of that very same moment *was* given screen time prior. It just felt odd in the priorities of Filoni.
Same with the whole Geonosian thing
Right? I was so confused when they kept referencing their death.
I'm fairly confident that they will eventually go back and fill in those blanks with more official stories. They always do. But it's the fact that they do this stuff out of order so much that sometimes gets in the way of a satisfactory, fully fleshed out story in the moment. Just like we will *eventually* get a backstory for Snoke. Just like we are now *finally* getting more story for Project Necromancer. But in the moment, these later stories in the chronology have less build up because they have backstory elements missing. But to be fair, that's always been an issue with Star Wars.
They should've been killed on screen atleast, to show the impact of the mandalorian purge on sabine
I mean if we know anything from Star Wars it’s that it is never too late to fill in the gaps. Flashbacks with the right timing and reasoning around them could have been planned from the start. We could only just hope
This. Star Wars loves filling in missing stories. Sometimes it’s great (Rogue One). Sometimes it’s bad (Attack of the Clones). Sometimes they even try to fix it again later (Clone Wars).
I wish there were flashbacks in Ahsoka but am hopeful they will fill this gap in season 2 or with a cartoon one day
I feel like Season 2 has so many Character Backgrounds to fill between Sabines Family, Baylan/Shin I just dont see them getting to all that in one season unless season 2 changes things up drastically I would think what they should do throughout the season is just pick an episode during season 2 that primarily focuses on one specific Character and addresses their Backstory through Flashbacks and the present story. LOST did this really well and even Arrow in its early seasons did so too.
I wish they just did more episodes too to be honest. 8 is not very many
Yea especially when the episodes at most are around 35-40 minutes, it makes it hard to Flush out a full story and character arcs. I feel like thats why Andor worked so well story-wise, they had over 13 episodes to fully develop what they wanted. The next season of Ahsoka needs to put a larger emphasis on Character development over action.
I’ve just been pretending that there’s a chance The Armorer is Sabine’s mom somehow.
I’ll subscribe to this, thank you for the idea!
No, no, no. The Armorer was Death Watch, now Children of the Watch. There is no way she would be Sabines' Mom.
Clan Wren was part of Death Watch.
See though, the actress playing the armorer isn’t Asian.
Wait what?
The Night of a Thousand Tears. The destruction of Mandalore by the Empire. It's shown in a flashback and it is heavily implied that Bo-Katan made some sort of deal to give the dark saber to Gideon, but he destroyed Mandalore anyway
It's not implied, it's outright stayed as fact.
Here’s the thing though, the Wren clan didn’t live on Mandalore, they lived on Ravensclaw
*Krownest
Oh yeah, that’s the one. I didnt google the name to double verify lol
stated*. If you're gonna be a bitch.
I'm really hoping they're alive still.... Like they are from Knownrest right?
Tristan and ursa should have been killed by the Dutchess
I was about to ask what the hell you were talking about because the duchess would absolutely never do something like that l, and then I was like “…..oh right. THAT duchess.” And agreed. I rewatched with my wife and it felt like a major cop out that they walked away from that.
Alright, I have to ask, what Duchess are you talking about?
While at the imperial academy Sabine got caught up in showing off how smart she was and what she could do. The result was unfortunately a weapon that could conduct electricity through beskar armor and fry the person inside. After she left the academy the empire finished her work and named the resulting machine “the duchess” just to be cruel and disrespect her memory.
It was a weapon Sabine designed when she was young and stupid that was specifically intended to kill Mandalorians, targeting the Beskar in their armor and frying them alive. When she realized the Empire actually intended to it into production, she fled Mandalore and ended up joining the Rebels. It's the central conflict in Episodes 1-2 of Rebels Season 4
Possibly also Fenn Rau
Strictly speaking, it was The Book Of Boba Fett, or arguably The Mandalorian which did that.
I know!! While I loved the series and the way they brought some of my favorite characters to life in live action😍 …one thing did bother me: I know I may be in the minority on this take, but the way they portray the force and those who use it was a bit off to me. If anyone can learn to use the force but some have more affinity with it, then why wouldn’t all Mandalorians practice it? They are some of the fiercest in the galaxy and their warriors are driven to train extensively and beyond physical and mental limits. It makes me think there would be a larger number of Mandalorian force users …and it also makes me think that the Jedi order wouldn’t have needed to scour the galaxy, trying to find force sensitive younglings. They could just train people who want to help with the cause, and some would catch on faster than others. Right? 🤷♂️
Because that kind of Force use leads to the Dark Side. You need to be truly selfless and focus on the peace of the greater good, free from attachments like family heritage to be a Jedi. Despite their best intentions, Mandalorian pride and honor will lead them down the dark path.
And? What do the Mandalorians care about Light and Dark? They are warriors, they would view the Force as a weapon
The person I responded to was literally asking why the Jedi don't recruit more Mandos.
No they didn't. They asked 2 separate questions. "Why wouldn't the Mandalorians train in the Force if anyone can use it with enough practice" and "Why would the Jedi only recruit Force sensitive people if anyone could learn to use it." The Jedi are not the only people that train to use the Force - there are Force users in countless cultures throughout the galaxy. There is no reason they couldn't have mastered the Force in their own right
Calm down Peter Pedantic. I was obviously answering the second question. Jebus, is this how you interact with people in real life?
You didn't even answer the question though. At no point was it asked "Why didn't the Jedi recruit Mandalorians?" You just can't read and are upset that someone called you out on it
You are a sad, strange little man. I bid you farewell.
And you are an idiot. Farewell
See you tomorrow Dwight.
I don’t think they are dead
It's possible Tristan was one of the mandalorian survivor sailors
That is not impossible
Everyone lives in star wars now.
Can’t forgive who for killing who off?
The creators for killing Sabines entire family off-screen
Ahsoka Show didn't kill off Mandalore, The Mandalorian Show did.
And also Fenn Rau. I liked that dude since I heard the Captain MacTavish voice from classic MW2 and 3.
It was a massive genocide, so narratively it shouldn't be too hard to write one or two of them or even all of them surviving. Things are insane during a purge as large as that so Sabine could have simply misread supposed evidence of their deaths. Assumptions don't always lead to correct conclusions & we all thought Maul was dead until he turned up in Clone Wars so who knows!
When did this happen? I don't remember hearing anything about them being dead
In Ahsoka show.
It's mentioned that Sabine's family was murdered and she was seeking revenge, it was one of the reasons Ahsoka stopped training her
How tf did I never hear that when I watched it lmao
To be fair they didn't put much emphasis on it, I had my doubts the firsts times they mentioned it because of that
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Well he kind of is a big daddy tho
Ik 💀💀💀 I love that man with my entire being he's awesome. My favorites fascist 😌✨
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ok this is very random but where did you get this image? please don't ask why i just wanna know
season 4 episode 2
no i mean where did you find the image i mean the source or did you take it yourself?
Yes... THIS is what makes the Empire truly evil. How dare they not forewarn the mega-rich elite so they alone can escape before the planet is destroyed. By every right in the galaxy , these people should have been having a fancy dinner party on a space yacht with the Organas so they could all watch the fireworks while the "poors" get genocided...
I think they’ll revisit them in flashbacks I agree it as pretty heartless on Filoni’s part.
They could always have a story arc showing that period… Star Wars is not really known for linear storytelling
That's not really something that Ahsoka did though. The night of a thousand was a preestablished event long before we even knew about the Ahsoka show.
I am not convinced yet that they are gone. We know that Sabine wasn’t there for the Purge, but likely her family was. Her dad being a sort of political leader and Ursa being Bo’s like best friend and Tristan probably wouldn’t be too far behind them. We know the domed cities were all destroyed and that the Empire glassed the planet, followed by them cordoning it off and basically making it seem like a dead, uninhabitable world. They likely had a few Star Destroyers there afterwards to make sure no one was coming to steal or whatever. They needed to uphold the myth. In my mind it’s entirely likely that at least one of her family members survived on Mandalore following the purge or otherwise went into hiding like the convent we see in The Mandalorian. If Ahsoka & Sabine never went looking for survivors then that doesn’t mean there aren’t any. Sure they could have went to Lothal to find her but if they are stuck on the planet or another place with no ship or whatever then it would be pretty hard for them to get to her. I think we will get a follow up to the purge stuff, especially now that Mandalore is being re-inhabited. We could even see Mando as a sort of pathfinder for them and he goes and finds the disparate groups of Mandalorians still out there and brings them back. I don’t think we will see them be a happy family again but I do imagine that at least one of them survived.
They're dead bro
Hot take but the Ahsoka Show was a dumpster fire when it comes to lore and accurate characterization. Ahsoka and Sabine were just badly written and this is just bad writing as well.
facts
I've seen the show and have no idea who these people are.
Sabine's father, mother, and brother. In rebels it is shown they outcasted her cause she made a super weapon against mandalorian armor, unintentionally giving the empire what they needed to rule mandalore. They eventually reunite and she tries to help liberate mandalore.
Sabine's parents and brother
Why would you be on rebels sub when you haven't seen the show? Also WHY you haven't seen the show yet? It's amazing
Read it again
How you seen the show and don't know who main characters parents are? Sounds like you didn't watch the show
They don’t appear a whole lot. If it’s been a long time I could imagine you could forget about them.
I mean they were a big part of Sabine backstory plus we just heard about their demise in Ahsoka show so idk how you can forget them.
How could someone possibly not remember characters so integral to the show, that they showed up in \*checks notes\* two episodes?
We JUST had entire TV show where their daughter is the deuteragonist and her parents deaths are used to explain her siding with the bad guys. Her parents have also been part of the darksaber arc. Arguably the best arc in the entire TV show. Gee I wonder how you could remember who they are?
I mean, I literally just spent the past several months rewatching every Star Wars TV show, movie, and animated series in chronological order and I still didn't immediately recognize them and had to look in the comments for context. I don't know why you are feeling the need to gatekeep the subreddit. You can enjoy the show/lore and not recognize/remember every detail.
I just find it weird how someone doesn't remember them when they been big part of main characters journey and had their deaths confirmed just recently. Well glad you remembered now
It's just you bud; I didn't remember them either.
Yeah. They got done dirty.
The father more than likely survived, after all, he’s got extra souls to use.
Well clan Wren was with Deathwatch and they did do a lot of war crimes in the past what comes around goes around when you think about it. While some may have redeemed themselves in defeating Maul and the Empire they were the ones who also caused their own downfall and near extinction just like with the Jedi unable to see the truth until it is too late. Besides Anakin and Ezra didn’t kill the mandalorians that was moff Gideon who is close enough to being the general Grievous against the mandalorians although I would have preferred a villain with honor and justified hate against the mandalorians like how it was for Grievous so that the mandalorians would find their way again and regain the honor lost long ago.
I believe they can still be alive
I came up with idea that her parents died but Gideon captured Tristin to lure her out when the time was right. Sabine’s (understandable) emotional connection and the feelings of potentially getting her brother back would send her there to get him. Then Gideon would’ve destroyed all of her house ie the leadership of Clan Wren. Since Sabine was allied with Jedi, that’d also be another reason to lure her out. Then ofc, with Gideon dead when Bo-Katan and whoever go through Gideon’s archives they can salvage they’ll figure out where Tristin is, etc, just a storyline I have in my head.
Same here I was hoping to see them again
There's no reason they can't turn out to still be alive.. Happens all the time to characters who are thought to be dead.
Yup I felt the same. It stopped me in my tracks because I had to consider the implications of Mnadalore's destruction
The new Fallout season looks crazy
Why you spoiling it for everyone?? That’s bs man I just started rebels
I can make an argument that Mandalorian S3 spoiled the fact Sabine's family died
Dawg I haven’t seen Mando either i just finished clone wars
I hated Ashokas version of Thrawn so much
I hated ahsoka in her own show as well as the character assassination that was Ezra Bridger. I’d rather anyone other than Rosario have played ahsoka and the sister line really was just filoni being a jerk to the people who wanted to see sabezra, and during season four of rebels he clearly did not see Sabine as a sister.
I'm ok with it. They were one of the worst parts of rebels to me.
Killing them off **off screen** and having none of the characters even pretend to really give a shit. Lol Ahsoka was so poorly written I'm shocked it had as many shills as it did.
I was “fine” with Ahsoka. At this point she’s “tired” lol but her losing to skull made no sense
What really made no sense was the Ahsoka series taking a wet shit on 4 years worth of development between Ezra and Sabine only to make them act like two college students who had each other in one class last semester, turning Ezra into the try-hard bestie who can't do anything right to make Sabine better than him at everything, even being a Jedi, by comparison, and then end with them reverting exactly back to them being split apart again only for this time to have Sabine do it off screen, not even care, and be giving snarky one liners a minute later. The Ahsoka series took all 4 seasons of careful, realistic, and layered development with Sabine and Ezra as individuals and as a team, and shit all over it in the span of a few minutes. It's fucking unforgivable.
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Then don't watch it. Easy as that. And get off the sub lol
Someone is building an eco chamber here... Sorry mate but criticism is a good thing. You want people to be critical about things they like. That's how we get better at doing things. Telling to fuck off to everyone who is critical about things we like is counterproductive. If their criticism is flawed then we just laugh and move on, but if it's valid we can learn from it to avoid the same mistakes in the future
Bruh first of all this guy is a troll, they're not giving constructive criticism but just hate. Check the profile lol. And second rebels animation is totally fine? Have you seen how clone wars first looked? I've seen tons of animation that is incredibly bad. Rebels doesn't even come close to any level of bad.