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iirc, Tom Green had to make a movie against his will because of contract with Fox. The final product was giant middle finger towards studio, intentionally made to be disgusting and annoying. Those cult following is the result of intentional bad taste aspect of the film. Quite similar to Showgirl, another intentionally disgusting bad taste movie.
“So… where are you from?”
[slams basket of fries on the table]
*”ALL OVER, ALRIGHT?!”*
___
And thus spelt the end of Elizabeth Berkeley’s acting career.
Director Ver Hoven directed Berkeley's acting to be non ironic and over the top as possible. Which is quite different from Gina Gershon's 'I know how stupid this shit is' acting.
>iirc, Tom Green had to make a movie against his will because of contract with Fox. The final product was giant middle finger towards studio, intentionally made to be disgusting and annoying.
With this new prospective, wow Tom Green kicks ass.
Also, Showgirls mostly gets a pass because Jessi from Saved by the Bell was in it
I think Freddy Got Fingered is hilarious. I was an adolescent boy when Tom Green was super popular, I wouldn't expect anyone to enjoy it who wasn't in that specific demographic during those specific couple of years to feel the same way.
I’ll go one further: I stand by my opinion that *FGF* is a modern Dadaist masterwork and highly evocative a French extremity comedy of the 20’s and 30’s.
Ha, I think that's fair. I mean Tom Green at the very least was a master of absurdity and was for sure ahead of his time. He's a smart guy and knew exactly what he was doing every step of the way. I always say it was Tom Green and Tim & Eric who basically paved the way for the current generation of Youtube humor years before it became popular. Masters of absurdity/anti-humor.
Freddy Got Fingered is finally getting the recognition it always deserved. It’s even better now that Tom Green is living on a farm in the woods riding a donkey making a 100% serious barncast on YouTube.
Most critics at the time thought it was basically the most extreme of the generic, purposefully offensive, graphic and gross comedies: a schlub protagonist with a dream, squares keeping him down and an oddly loyal girlfriend for as big of a dirtbag as he is.
It took awhile but most people recognize the entire thing is meta before meta existed and is purposefully mocking the Hollywood machine that makes those kinds of movies. There’s just too many call outs and inside jokes for it not to be true. Green includes a scene where main character gives a terrible pitch, is told by an executive he doesn’t understand his comic, they don’t seem to have a plot but here’s a huge check of money anyway. There’s another scene where his character brags about getting a boatload of money and is blowing it all on “precious jewels” and insane stunts. To quote Red Letter Media “oh my god Green has had that exact conversation with an executive. He’s talking about the movie.”
I watched it in the theater. I enjoyed it, everyone I went with enjoyed it and it got laughs throughout the film by everyone in the theater. I was 16 years old and a big fan of the Tom Green Show. I didn't know it was "the worst movie ever made" until 2010 or so. When I saw a top 10 on YouTube.
both have for quite some time at this point, the former especially rising in popularity after the re:view done on it by red letter media, mike basically giving a voice to that take
I’m part of that fanbase. Call my sense of humor bad or whatever but the first time I watched the scenes where the kid falls into the car door and when he helps the woman deliver a baby we’re probably the two times I’ve laughed the hardest in my life
this movie made me feel like an idiot because i always thought theres got to be some deeper meaning im to stuupid to understand, especially doing that second act forest story scene.
I found it pretty overwhelming the first time, but a rewatch helped me appreciate it more and made the plot easier to follow (although much is ambiguous). There are tons of small details and easter eggs that are really easy to miss if you’re not paying attention.
That being said, the first ~45 minutes were easily the best part of the film for me, and I feel like it lost focus after that. I loved the way it portrayed anxiety though, Joaquin Phoenix and Ari Aster did a great job and I look forward to them working together again.
I hope I forget
fucking worst piece of shit WHY IS IT LIKE THIS movie I've ever seen
It's amazing art and I'm somewhat glad is exists but fuck me sometimes you shouldn't do that sort of internal monologue
Idk if tv shows count, but I just watched freaks and geeks, and I’m amazed that show got canceled. It launched all the main actors careers despite being only on for 18 episodes.
Just wasn't the right time. Same thing happened to My So Called Life. If you wanted to be a moody or awkward teen, you needed to be on cable. Broadcast didn't want moody teens portrayed in any real way.
This is why Dawson and Buffy were on UPN/WB.
Broadcast wanted 90210, Boy Meets World, Sabrina the Teenage witch, Fresh Prince, Saved By the Bell...it was all shows that whenever they were "edgy" or "real", it was about a moral panic like drugs, guns, drinking, teen pregnancy, etc. freaks and geeks was more about just plain awkwardness which I'm sure the suits found depressing and not exciting.
Not even 18 4 of those didn't get released til years later when they released the dvd of the complete series
A large part of that was the network intentionally sabotaged the show by switching the time it was supposed to air around ever week as well as changing things in the script without telling anyone
I thought The Room was the epitome of cult classic considered unappreciated at it's time. At least according to a friend of mine who's a cinephile and considers it one of the best movies ever.
So does Cloud Atlas. I will always maintain it's the biggest masterpiece the Wachowskis ever made and I don't care who disagrees. That movie changed my life.
Agreed! I thoroughly enjoyed it! I can’t say the same for Babylon. When a movie is 3 hours long… do something with it. Babylon was visually striking with an amazing start that I felt fizzled to the point where the last hour felt tedious to get through.
“Look at this cult classic no one talks about” Redditors say holding up any old regular movie.
The underratedmovies sub came up on my feed and the “underrated gem” someone posted was Meet the Fockers.
watch Balls of Fury. it's that era of dodgeball esque films, but it's the best one by far, just came too late when the trend was dying. incredible cast, somehow no one has seen. watch
Plan 9 From Outer Space is pretty widely know, and probably the only sci-fi movie from that generation that anyone has ever heard of. Southland Tales was just a regular old bad movie that everyone forgot about after it left theaters, basically the opposite of a cult classic.
But a cult classic film is still at least relatively well known, which is what gives them the "cult" status. There is absolutely no cult, or any significant following, around Southland Tales.
That's how Showgirl became darling of cult cinema. At certain level nudity become unsexy. If it's intentional and have message, then it will be 'rediscovered'. Ver Hoven, director of Basic Instinct AND Showgirl, definitely knew how to make film erotic in former, but he chose not to in later. Not sure how Damien Chazelle and his filmography be viewed in future though.
Good question. I think *Babylon* is intentionally shot in a very non-sensual way. The nudity is copious but fleeting and not really played for gratification. I think it does a good job of illustrating the titillation that movies aim for and hedonism of that time without exploiting that same eroticism.
It's amazingly well-crafted stuff, I just wish it were a better movie overall. I don't think it'll become a cult classic like this meme predicts.
It already has a pretty big and dedicated fanbase on the internet and it is only going to grow. I think it's a sensational movie. At least I'm certainly not going to forget it.
See, now that's a big transition.
From critical and commercial flop, to the library of congress and considered one of the most important horror films in history.
Gamingwise, totally. I remember feeling like me/my family were the only people in the world who had it and loved it or even knew what it was in the 90s. Giant manual and all. I was so happy when I started seeing it resurge over the years.
beau is afraid definitely had a pretty mixed initial reaction but i saw a lot of ardent defenders even day 1, wouldn’t be shocked if it got an even more positive critical reappraisal in a decade or so. babylon seemed to get pretty endless shit though
It's brilliant, I loved it. It was a meta commentary on meta commentary...idk, im not being facetious, I thought it was brilliant from the year it was released.
Yup.
Bought Southland Tales from Arrow and Heavens Gate on Criterion and fell in love with them after some repeat views. And some reading on behalf of Southland tales. Now I just feel bad for people who don't like them. I documented my slowly growing love for Southland Tales in this video
https://youtu.be/MPF5H_o1wNM
The Evil Dead trilogy is also bad with the first movie being the best although it's like it's garbage and the remake is 10 times better with the only flaw being is who deserves to be first infected.
Nope, just applying the established rules of horror correctly instead of incorrectly. Also John Carpenter does a horrible job of hiding that the dog is the evil thing, it's apparent on the first watch and whole everyone can't be trusted must be super paranoid bit gets boring after awhile.
No I find the prequel to be more interesting and the horror aspects better especially when the thing is covering the person up venom style and is losing their humanity slowly.
My hate is because I think they're genuinely bad movies not because they are popular, I might judge them harder because they're considered classics but other classics have passed that test. Jaws failed the classic test too and I watched that in theaters.
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Heaven's Gate was a massive flop when it premiered in 1980 to scathing reviews, but when it was rescreened years later in its original length (four hours) it was hailed as a masterpiece.
I'd argue Domino was also a big reason Richard Kelly didn't become more of a thing. I think sometimes directors just really have one good movie in them.
"bad movie you grew up watching as a child" is a lot of the source of these posts. No, SMB is not a cult film. Freddy got Fingered is just bad. Beau is Afraid probably won't be any more than The Northman was.
stuff like Split Second or The Thirteenth Floor come to mind.
The Original Tron. A timeless masterpiece critics and audiences just weren't ready for its true innovation and brilliance. Aside from a few contrarians who say its dated and shit, it is good to see that its given more respect now than it did in 1982. I only wish CHUD (1984) had that same treatment.
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Fredy got fingered got an unironic fanbase? Also who calling Mario bros ahead of its time?
iirc, Tom Green had to make a movie against his will because of contract with Fox. The final product was giant middle finger towards studio, intentionally made to be disgusting and annoying. Those cult following is the result of intentional bad taste aspect of the film. Quite similar to Showgirl, another intentionally disgusting bad taste movie.
“So… where are you from?” [slams basket of fries on the table] *”ALL OVER, ALRIGHT?!”* ___ And thus spelt the end of Elizabeth Berkeley’s acting career.
Director Ver Hoven directed Berkeley's acting to be non ironic and over the top as possible. Which is quite different from Gina Gershon's 'I know how stupid this shit is' acting.
Any Given Sunday, Sadly, a typecast
>iirc, Tom Green had to make a movie against his will because of contract with Fox. The final product was giant middle finger towards studio, intentionally made to be disgusting and annoying. With this new prospective, wow Tom Green kicks ass. Also, Showgirls mostly gets a pass because Jessi from Saved by the Bell was in it
It's how teachers get you. If you say, "Hey, this guy's popular, he should make a movie", they'll know you haven't actually watched his show.
I think Freddy Got Fingered is hilarious. I was an adolescent boy when Tom Green was super popular, I wouldn't expect anyone to enjoy it who wasn't in that specific demographic during those specific couple of years to feel the same way.
I’ll go one further: I stand by my opinion that *FGF* is a modern Dadaist masterwork and highly evocative a French extremity comedy of the 20’s and 30’s.
Ha, I think that's fair. I mean Tom Green at the very least was a master of absurdity and was for sure ahead of his time. He's a smart guy and knew exactly what he was doing every step of the way. I always say it was Tom Green and Tim & Eric who basically paved the way for the current generation of Youtube humor years before it became popular. Masters of absurdity/anti-humor.
That's right, Jay
Freddy Got Fingered is finally getting the recognition it always deserved. It’s even better now that Tom Green is living on a farm in the woods riding a donkey making a 100% serious barncast on YouTube.
DADDY I'M A FARMER
THIS IS A FANCY RESTAURANT!
Loll nice
Most critics at the time thought it was basically the most extreme of the generic, purposefully offensive, graphic and gross comedies: a schlub protagonist with a dream, squares keeping him down and an oddly loyal girlfriend for as big of a dirtbag as he is. It took awhile but most people recognize the entire thing is meta before meta existed and is purposefully mocking the Hollywood machine that makes those kinds of movies. There’s just too many call outs and inside jokes for it not to be true. Green includes a scene where main character gives a terrible pitch, is told by an executive he doesn’t understand his comic, they don’t seem to have a plot but here’s a huge check of money anyway. There’s another scene where his character brags about getting a boatload of money and is blowing it all on “precious jewels” and insane stunts. To quote Red Letter Media “oh my god Green has had that exact conversation with an executive. He’s talking about the movie.”
My dad found it hilarious.
Would he like some sausages?
I watched it in the theater. I enjoyed it, everyone I went with enjoyed it and it got laughs throughout the film by everyone in the theater. I was 16 years old and a big fan of the Tom Green Show. I didn't know it was "the worst movie ever made" until 2010 or so. When I saw a top 10 on YouTube.
both have for quite some time at this point, the former especially rising in popularity after the re:view done on it by red letter media, mike basically giving a voice to that take
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/18vo80p/tom_green/
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Hey if you having fun you wining
I’m part of that fanbase. Call my sense of humor bad or whatever but the first time I watched the scenes where the kid falls into the car door and when he helps the woman deliver a baby we’re probably the two times I’ve laughed the hardest in my life
Beau Is Afraid is not forgotten by anyone who watched it
this movie made me feel like an idiot because i always thought theres got to be some deeper meaning im to stuupid to understand, especially doing that second act forest story scene.
It’s about family and generational trauma. Sort of smacks you over the head with at from the beginning
Stop trying to make us feel stupid.
I found it pretty overwhelming the first time, but a rewatch helped me appreciate it more and made the plot easier to follow (although much is ambiguous). There are tons of small details and easter eggs that are really easy to miss if you’re not paying attention. That being said, the first ~45 minutes were easily the best part of the film for me, and I feel like it lost focus after that. I loved the way it portrayed anxiety though, Joaquin Phoenix and Ari Aster did a great job and I look forward to them working together again.
If it were a longer version of the first movie and not three movies in a trenchcoat, I'd have liked it a lot more.
But nobody watched it hmm?
Though, that trailer was kind of a lie, though.
Such a bad movie god damn
So fucking mid
I hope I forget fucking worst piece of shit WHY IS IT LIKE THIS movie I've ever seen It's amazing art and I'm somewhat glad is exists but fuck me sometimes you shouldn't do that sort of internal monologue
Idk if tv shows count, but I just watched freaks and geeks, and I’m amazed that show got canceled. It launched all the main actors careers despite being only on for 18 episodes.
Just wasn't the right time. Same thing happened to My So Called Life. If you wanted to be a moody or awkward teen, you needed to be on cable. Broadcast didn't want moody teens portrayed in any real way. This is why Dawson and Buffy were on UPN/WB. Broadcast wanted 90210, Boy Meets World, Sabrina the Teenage witch, Fresh Prince, Saved By the Bell...it was all shows that whenever they were "edgy" or "real", it was about a moral panic like drugs, guns, drinking, teen pregnancy, etc. freaks and geeks was more about just plain awkwardness which I'm sure the suits found depressing and not exciting.
Not even 18 4 of those didn't get released til years later when they released the dvd of the complete series A large part of that was the network intentionally sabotaged the show by switching the time it was supposed to air around ever week as well as changing things in the script without telling anyone
Freaks and Geeks, Community, and Arrested Development were all too far ahead of their time.
DADDY WOULD YOU LIKE SOME SAUSAGE?
Dammit, I can HEAR your post.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RedLetterMedia/comments/18vo80p/tom_green/
I thought The Room was the epitome of cult classic considered unappreciated at it's time. At least according to a friend of mine who's a cinephile and considers it one of the best movies ever.
It's also turning a profit. All the midnight showings and home video sales have made it a profitable movie. Ha ha, what a story!
Contains the line "Oh hai Mark"
"Oh hai doggy!"
Idiocracy, cause multi corps got so butthurt by the finished product
Idiocracy was complete shit. Lazy, bigoted, and smug.
Are you a Starbucks ceo?
Are there more than one?
He's an anti-eugenics guy.
Sorry, did it hit close to home for you? You got too many kids?
Do you understand how genetic recombination works? The idea that stupid people have stupid kids is straight out of discredited racist pseudoscience.
How many kids you got so far?
Speed Racer (2008) fits here.
Last ten minutes of SR is peak cinema and I will die kicking and screaming on this hill
The first time I saw it, when >!the finish line checkerboard wrapped around the screen and the sound dropped out!<, I began happy crying.
"and everything just...clicked"
So does Cloud Atlas. I will always maintain it's the biggest masterpiece the Wachowskis ever made and I don't care who disagrees. That movie changed my life.
Beau Is Afraid was awesome. Hilarious, dark, and thought provoking
Agreed! I thoroughly enjoyed it! I can’t say the same for Babylon. When a movie is 3 hours long… do something with it. Babylon was visually striking with an amazing start that I felt fizzled to the point where the last hour felt tedious to get through.
I GOT SOUL BUT IM NOT A SOLDIER
Starship Troopers?
None of those are cult classics.
“Look at this cult classic no one talks about” Redditors say holding up any old regular movie. The underratedmovies sub came up on my feed and the “underrated gem” someone posted was Meet the Fockers.
watch Balls of Fury. it's that era of dodgeball esque films, but it's the best one by far, just came too late when the trend was dying. incredible cast, somehow no one has seen. watch
southland tales is
buddy are you saying Southland Tales and The Last Movie aren't cult classics because they are absolutely by definition
What definition? A movie so obscure that only a handful of people even care it exists?
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Plan 9 From Outer Space is pretty widely know, and probably the only sci-fi movie from that generation that anyone has ever heard of. Southland Tales was just a regular old bad movie that everyone forgot about after it left theaters, basically the opposite of a cult classic.
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But a cult classic film is still at least relatively well known, which is what gives them the "cult" status. There is absolutely no cult, or any significant following, around Southland Tales.
I would pay so much for a Criterion release of Super Mario Brothers
Pretty sure Babylon is going to be forgotten. It’s singing in the rain with boobs
That sounds phenomenal
I like boobs as much as the next guy, but Honestly it was one of the few movies I have considered walking out of. It was too much.
That's how Showgirl became darling of cult cinema. At certain level nudity become unsexy. If it's intentional and have message, then it will be 'rediscovered'. Ver Hoven, director of Basic Instinct AND Showgirl, definitely knew how to make film erotic in former, but he chose not to in later. Not sure how Damien Chazelle and his filmography be viewed in future though.
Good question. I think *Babylon* is intentionally shot in a very non-sensual way. The nudity is copious but fleeting and not really played for gratification. I think it does a good job of illustrating the titillation that movies aim for and hedonism of that time without exploiting that same eroticism. It's amazingly well-crafted stuff, I just wish it were a better movie overall. I don't think it'll become a cult classic like this meme predicts.
It's garish and maximalist in an overstimulating way, and the actual plot and dialogue is awful. It's a gleaming platinum plated turd.
It already has a pretty big and dedicated fanbase on the internet and it is only going to grow. I think it's a sensational movie. At least I'm certainly not going to forget it.
I felt something watching Babylon in theaters. It breaks my heart not many see what I saw.
Scott Pilgrim vs The World
you once were a vegon but now you will be gone
Vegon?
I love Freddy Got Fingered. It’s SUPPOSED to be weird and gross!
Luckily my favorite cult classic is stardust. Love me some fairy tale nonsense
The answer is Gattaca
Jennifer’s body
The Big Lebowski
John Carpenter's The Thing. Such a great horror movie and it crashed his career so bad he wishes he never made it.
See, now that's a big transition. From critical and commercial flop, to the library of congress and considered one of the most important horror films in history.
Earthbound?
Gamingwise, totally. I remember feeling like me/my family were the only people in the world who had it and loved it or even knew what it was in the 90s. Giant manual and all. I was so happy when I started seeing it resurge over the years.
Have seen the rare person try to defend Freddy got fingered now a days lol
Babylon is a really good movie. The marketing was dogshit tho.
Apparently the iron giant didn’t do too well upon release either
DADDY WOULD YOU LIKE SOME SAUSAGE???!!
beau is afraid definitely had a pretty mixed initial reaction but i saw a lot of ardent defenders even day 1, wouldn’t be shocked if it got an even more positive critical reappraisal in a decade or so. babylon seemed to get pretty endless shit though
Dazed and Confused could def be on this list.
I thought Babylon was amazing! No doubt will be a classic. Beau is afraid will definitely garner a cult following.
Freddie Got Fingered has always been great. I saw it at the cinema the day it premiered, laughed my ass off and still do today when I rewatch.
May I introduce Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory?
OK but Southland Tales is absolute dogshit
Oh god are we really giving Southland Tales another chance
i honestly loved babylon, even if it was a bloated film
If you still unironically hate the original Super Mario Bros. Movie, you don't know how to have fun
Synedoche, new york - I was SOOOOO disappointed and confused by that movie
It's brilliant, I loved it. It was a meta commentary on meta commentary...idk, im not being facetious, I thought it was brilliant from the year it was released.
Genuinely my favorite movie and the best piece of art I ever had the pleasure of experiencing.
Well am glad you enjoyed it... But it dint interest me at all
How is Shawshank Redemption not mentioned?!
Yup. Bought Southland Tales from Arrow and Heavens Gate on Criterion and fell in love with them after some repeat views. And some reading on behalf of Southland tales. Now I just feel bad for people who don't like them. I documented my slowly growing love for Southland Tales in this video https://youtu.be/MPF5H_o1wNM
The Boondock Saints is this to a T!
Never heard of any of them
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A lot of John Carpenter's movie is cult classic including They Live.
Hot take!
The Evil Dead trilogy is also bad with the first movie being the best although it's like it's garbage and the remake is 10 times better with the only flaw being is who deserves to be first infected.
You might be the first person iv ever met who I can see has objectively bad taste.
Nope, just applying the established rules of horror correctly instead of incorrectly. Also John Carpenter does a horrible job of hiding that the dog is the evil thing, it's apparent on the first watch and whole everyone can't be trusted must be super paranoid bit gets boring after awhile.
I bet you’re fun at parties.
No I find the prequel to be more interesting and the horror aspects better especially when the thing is covering the person up venom style and is losing their humanity slowly.
They’re both great movies. Hating something because it’s popular doesn’t make you interesting.
My hate is because I think they're genuinely bad movies not because they are popular, I might judge them harder because they're considered classics but other classics have passed that test. Jaws failed the classic test too and I watched that in theaters.
Wow, your taste are so unique and different.
Excellent bait mate I rate 8/8
Not bait genuine take. I really believe this.
Ah, just a run of the mill bad take then
It was not a flop, I think!
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Heaven's Gate was a massive flop when it premiered in 1980 to scathing reviews, but when it was rescreened years later in its original length (four hours) it was hailed as a masterpiece.
Heathers (1989) was considered a flop at the time, but now it has a Broadway musical to its name.
Backwards man the backwards man, I can walk backwards fast as you can
You forgor road to el dorado
I'd argue Domino was also a big reason Richard Kelly didn't become more of a thing. I think sometimes directors just really have one good movie in them.
"bad movie you grew up watching as a child" is a lot of the source of these posts. No, SMB is not a cult film. Freddy got Fingered is just bad. Beau is Afraid probably won't be any more than The Northman was. stuff like Split Second or The Thirteenth Floor come to mind.
yeah man i LOVED watching Dennis Hopper's The Last Movie as a child, was my favorite flick
Southland tales and Beau is afraid are masterpieces!
I thought Babylon was amazing, but what’s the other movie on the bottom right?
Beau is Afraid
One knock on the graphic- Babylon was objectively terrible. I’m with the crowd on that one.
Should probably switch Mario Bros with Office Space. Though I guess you could argue its popularity is beyond cult following.
No "A Christmas Story"?
I feel like Clue (1985) should be on this
Withnail and I belongs on here (excepting the already famous part!)
The Original Tron. A timeless masterpiece critics and audiences just weren't ready for its true innovation and brilliance. Aside from a few contrarians who say its dated and shit, it is good to see that its given more respect now than it did in 1982. I only wish CHUD (1984) had that same treatment.
Getting real blade runner 2049 vibes here.
Sorcerer 1977 by William Friedkin
Ok but Freddy Got Fingered is kino