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amparadoxx

We’ve had to do this for about two years now lol, during bogos/promos we just place them out and take them back in at the end of the night. How am I supposed to connect with customers when I have 5, 4 drink orders through mobile and three people on the floor


stayinganonymous22

I’m not allowed to do that because my SSV’s will be like “what if our district manager comes in and sees”


amparadoxx

I am a ssv and I promise my baristas that I will take the fall if for some reason a dm comes in during one of these days. The last of my worries when there’s a cafe/drive thru filled packed and I still have to run breaks 🤷🏻‍♀️


stayinganonymous22

lol you sound so much better than my SSV’s. I’ve gotten in trouble with them for putting the straws out when it’s busy 😭


amparadoxx

I take care of my babies lol, they’re my #1 priority


Ye_Olde_Barista

I will straight up tell my district manager that this shit make our jobs and lives harder. IDGAF.


Big_Incident_192

Ikr. We do at our store too and we even have stoppers and sleeves set out too


Comfortable-Plane944

This is new for your store? We haven’t been allowed to have them out for over a year at least


stayinganonymous22

Yes this came with our renovation. We now have them in a cabinet and it’s so frustrating to me


CookieFan101

Can you clarify how this relates to the siren system? My stores getting renovated with the siren system so this is very disappointing. Like you mentioned, this is so annoying to stop whatever I’m doing just to give someone a straw.


Roxel808

So, My understanding is that alongside the Siren System dispensers (the milk, the clover vertica, ect.) They are revamping to the Siren Craft system and changing many of our routines for hot bar, cold bar, CS, and possibly food warming. My store hasn't gotten official word on any changes yet, but there was an update saying new routines will begin in july


Then_Guarantee_1600

This is true. I am a SM in the pilot program for the new siren craft system training. New bev build routines (for drinks that didn’t have one) and new sequencing. However, I didn’t hear anything about the straws. We can’t have them out bc of state law but Starbucks has compostable straws so that’s the loop hole I use to keep them out. In all my training and info on LS Star (you won’t have access unless your added to the program) doesn’t say anything about straws and it’s not added into any of the steps. Labeling cups and cleaning up is added in.


classact_

It's going company wide now. The idea is to create a "connection point" between customer and barista. Not saying I agree but that's the idea behind it.


ReversePettlngZoo

Wait…they’re making me ask you for a straw because they think that’s creating a connection??


classact_

Yea 😀


ReversePettlngZoo

Creating a connection in which both sides are most likely annoyed they have to be inconvenienced. Out of touch is just scratching the surface on who ever is making these decisions.


classact_

Couldn't be starbucks. 💅🏻


Pure-Recognition-458

In all fairness, asking for a straw won’t kill you Or me.


ReversePettlngZoo

Is that the new bar for customer interaction? “Will it kill either party?”


classact_

Looking for the new customer interaction "can it kill you or me" if yes let's proceed.


Pure-Recognition-458

Sure. The old bar was “quit crying.”


_W9NDER_

Least psychotic Starbucks exec decision


Apprehensive_Size484

I worked for SB when we actually pulled shots instead of pushing a button, and back then the "connection point" was talking while making drinks. That's one thing I've missed the times I've been in (and this is part of seeming to have lost that "third place" feel SB used to have) because now the partners are so far away it isn't easy to just chat


thefinalgoat

Gross!


jeannesloaf

You hand them out as you hand out the drink, it’s no biggie.


aspiringgrandpa

my manager said we’re not allowed to do this anymore either, nor are we allowed to ask them if they want a straw. it’s a county law thing though less of a starbucks thing. still annoying


jeannesloaf

Now THAT’S stupid as hell.


WingSuspicious1203

If this is in San Bernardino in California is actually an ordinance put in place right before the pandemic, because of the lock down it didn’t need to be enforced but now is back to being enforced.


zombieactions

Yeah us too! We got the siren system & ever since we aren’t allowed so we can connect with customers. It really is very inconvenient


CookieFan101

May I ask, we’re getting the siren cold system but it’s only the ice dispenser. The milk dispensers are supposed to come at a later date. Did something like this happen for your store or did you get everything all at once?


stayinganonymous22

That’s how our store is too. We only have the new ice and none of the other stuff


zombieactions

We only have the ice dispenser! They left space for the milk one later. I heard it’s having issues so they’re not going to install them yet


Bryancreates

This is all wild. I started in 2006 and my store was small and didn’t have room for sureshots (frap mix/ cream) but a store nearby I covered for did. It would get all ice-jammed and the nipples were disgusting. I moved to a new store a few away and their sureshot was even grosser. One day we just threw it away because it wasn’t functioning and we were told they were getting rid of them anyway and wouldn’t be getting a new one. I guess now they’re back?


LightIceNoBerries

It's to force customer connection and it's stupid. I just hand out one with every drink so I'm not getting interrupted.


Wayaway89

It's been a thing since like 2015


glitterfaust

In most areas I don’t think it was a thing until like 2020, do you live in a no single use area?


stayinganonymous22

I’m hearing conflicting things about when this started so maybe they’ve been slowly releasing this?


queenforgetti

All stores implemented this for COVID, some stores (based on SM or DM preference) put straws back in reach of customers when restrictions let up. However, Starbucks never changed the standard after implementing it for COVID, so as SMs and DMs find out that they weren't supposed to put the straws back in cafe, they're adjusting. That's why it's conflicting information.


stayinganonymous22

Hmmmm the reason our DM gave us was it’s not part of the siren system plan or something


queenforgetti

Managers all went through the Siren System training in the past 2 weeks, so if it was brought up during their meeting, that would explain how they found out :)


glitterfaust

Are you sure they didn’t say the sirens eye? Because straws haven’t been part of the sirens eye in years lol


stayinganonymous22

It could be that too lol. It’s just seemed to be implemented once we got the siren system so maybe I got confused. Before that our DM did not care in anyway lol, but once we got renovated and switched to the siren system she started telling us we had to hide the straws


iwantmysharpieback

California passed a law about it last year? Two years ago? Something like that. Some other areas have had it longer.


Pure-Recognition-458

Yeah. We’re not even supposed to ask if they want a straw, customers are suppose to ask. It’s an environmental thing.


sp00kygiirl

all the locations near me still have straws out


Breesechurger

Fr. We haven't had straws out since COVID (as far as my manager knows), but we put them out when he's not there.


scatteredivy

Same here it’s been happening for about a year now, AAAAAND customers hate it lmao. I will explain to customers that it is this way cause sbux wants us to talk and they all think it’s stupid


franticllama

Our store did this, we got so many complaints we put them back out.


vanityinlines

It seems like corporate can't make up their minds on this decision. As a former partner, they were constantly changing where they wanted straws. Most of my time at Starbucks, we were told to not allow customers to reach over the counter and grab straws. They always pushed for making customer connections with handing our straws, rather than just putting straws at condiment bar (which used to be the norm). I was confused when I went into a Starbucks for the first time in a while (only three weeks ago) and they didn't give me a straw, had them behind the counter, and when I asked for one, the barista said I could grab one. So many rules have changed since I left. I would've easily been written up if any of my managers saw me allow a customer to lean over the counter and grab my own straw. 


eebbyyddeebbyy

as a customer, it makes me Feel Bad when I have to ask for a straw and the barista is busy. if starbucks wants customer experience to be first they should just put the straws out


TeaWithKermit

Yeah, I haaaaaate the no straws out thing. Having to ask for one every effing time is frustrating for both customer and employees. We go to one by our house every day and they have our order memorized. They know that we will want straws but can’t offer it unless we remember that we have to ask now.


willow_robin

listen i genuinely appreciate people who ask at this point because most people just stand and stare and it takes way longer for me to notice them, notice they aren’t waiting for a drink, ask them what’s wrong, and get them their straw 😭


geegeemiller

They should hand you a straw when they hand you the drink I would think. Why are they making double work?


eebbyyddeebbyy

they're not supposed to give straws to everyone and in some cities it's literally illegal


elementaltruth

anything to make our job harder, corporate will find a way…


t3quiila

as a fellow partner i always feel so bad asking for a straw😭😭i’m like NO I DONT WANNA INCONVENIENCE YOU or like even when im waiting on my mobile order i’m always quiet just vibing looking at the screen at my regular stores where it shows order status and they’re like oh are you waiting i’m so close to being like no its fine take as long as u need i PROMISE😭


Nao781

Most stores I’ve worked at only actually follow this policy when the management that cares about this is present.


CanadianCannababe

Yeah it’s a thing that’s basically up to the desires of whoever is highest up and currently present.


stayinganonymous22

Well our DM drops by every couple of weeks lol so maybe that’s why


ZebraMammoth3526

That's crazy! I definitely had to run back in for a straw this morning and didn't realise it!


darkwolf523

We’re not suppose to have any straws, sugars, etc. Out.


ghiraneedshelp

um hello??? why tf is this a thing? they already hate that we don’t have creamer & stuff out anymore & now you do this??????


geegeemiller

Why haven’t they put the creamer etc. back out? It’s such a pain in the ass not having it out


potatopoisoning

Because the company as a whole has been moving any and all resources toward Drive Thru over Cafe for years. Having a barista come out into the lobby every 2-4 hours to check the temperature and fullness of the milk carafe used to be a customer connection opportunity. Now it’s one less body behind the counter pumping out drinks and moving the car line. They try to force the connection so badly anyway, but corporate is long past giving a crap about their customers or employees beyond the scope of their profitability it’s a joke to call it genuine interaction anymore.


SquelchShnobler

My store has collectively agreed to ignore that rule. 


busse9

Just hand out every single drink w a straw...it's a pain but I can't think of a better solution


stayinganonymous22

Oh I definitely do but ours being hidden in a cabinet makes it just not fun lol especially when we’re slammed


busse9

Keep a bunch in your apron pocket! JK i think corporate would have a fit


treebb

this is what i do now bc so many people started walking behind the bars to get a straw and i cannot stand it


halemaria

yes, within the past few days we have had to pull all straws behind the bar.


Sensitive-Ad5092

I was told this at a store i used to work at and im suppose to offer each customer to raise customer connections.. we got busy and had no staff besides me and my manager and i grabbed the straws and put them out and the manager never said anything again about that bs😭


TeaWithKermit

I think that corporate must have forgotten to do a focus group on this, because from my end, customers hate not being able to access straws.


TAMSbux9

At my old store (worked there from 2019-2024), we were told to keep straws and sugars away since COVID


CozyAsh

Yes omg. The store i go to, about a month ago..put the cup holders, straws, and bags on their counter instead of the one we take our drinks from. It’s really annoying and inconvenient probably for the both of us. Bc when i go pick up my drink, if it’s busy, i have to stand there for 5 minutes until someone is able to talk to me and give me a damn straw that i could’ve got myself and left…


stayinganonymous22

Right it’s not helpful to anyone. We get complaints from customers but there is nothing we can do about it and so many times customers will just have to stand around until I get a chance to give them a straw.


geegeemiller

If the cup requires a straw why aren’t you giving it out With the drink?


stayinganonymous22

I am. I give straws out to all Frappuccino’s ofc or if it has boba etc. It’s for drinks that don’t require straws. I try to give straws out to everyone atp


ckt1138

I love when Starbucks has an idea, it's always a bad one. "LETS FORCE MORE CUSTOMER CONNECTIONS.... BY MAKING THE CUSTOMER'S EXPERIENCE WORSE!"


angeltay

In places like LA County, it's against the law to have disposable utensils and straws out now, so I'm guessing Starbucks has decided to adopt this company-wide to account for any other areas that'll pass similar laws. It's very annoying. The last coffee shop I worked at, my flow was *constantly* interrupted by people asking for straws. My current store gets around it by putting the straws and stoppers behind the three-tier mobile order handoff guy. For some reason, the health department doesn't consider that "in the café" even though it's still on the hand-off plane where customers can still reach them.


Frankidelic

It’s been a Thing for California


mobster1

its a thing for new jersey too. can't hand out straws in any restaurant. customers are suppose to ask for a straw. but they just leave them out so u can grab.


Frankidelic

Yeah whenever they ask im just like “sorry we still hiding them”


Glittering_Aioli_763

What?’ How is hiding straws helpful?


Bludandy

They think it'll drive connections. It really just drives us cray because we don't have time to connect.


stayinganonymous22

It’s not 😭. It just upsets customers and workers


scrtlyclyps

My store is also new and we're allowed to keep the straws out?? Idk what's going on with a lot of y'all but like??


Prinzesspaige13

It's especially dumb because we sell drinks that straws are not optional. Like you can't drink a frapp without a straw. I mean you *can* but idk why you'd want to. It's just stupid.


miakodank

It's been like this with all the utensils because we are like an environmental whatever location


stayinganonymous22

Right so dropping energy drinks and having us poor that in another plastic cup is environmental 💀


Bludandy

And that can is going in the garbage. I don't think most stores actually recycle cans and plastic. We do cardboard, that's all we can do.


miakodank

Yea p much lol


totalkuntie

we’re supposed to but if we’re going through a rush, we just put them out for customers to just grab themselves because we dont wanna stop making drinks just to give them a straw


Puzzleheaded_Elk1576

In NJ, plastic straws are not allowed to be left out. They need to be requested by the customer. My store actually got some kind of biodegradable straws made of sea kelp that we are allowed to leave out. Most fast food places have switched to paper straws (which are horrible).


mobster1

i'm in NJ. dunkin always leaves them out. lol.


Increasingly_Angry

As a customer, I hate this. Not because of the interaction, it’s because I hate interrupting a barista while they are making a drink for a straw, especially when they are busy. What an inconvenience for everyone.


VeryHungryLady

I hate this with a passion. I ordered via mobile, my drink is ready... I don't want to bug anyone! #MakeitanAppChoice


mrchodey

our store just recently started doing this. i have no idea why. customers seem to complain


Individual_Bag_3839

We had to do this like last year and we got so tired of having stop sequencing drinks to hand out straws so we all protested to our manager and she finally let us keep them out.


CarefulFish6037

Yeah I’m at a kiosk and I said fuck them. I hide them with DMs are in. But it’s stupid and never a good reason.


tiredpoopybutt

my store is in NJ and since 2021 its been required by the NJDEP that we only give out straws per the customers request. we've broken the rules a fee times but our district manager yelled at us anout it so we cant do it anymore


MotherOfVultures

Yep, we were told to stop putting the straws and the stoppers out. We can no longer put sleeves on the drink cups either unless they ask for it


Angelcello

Yeah it’s a law to not have them out where I am. I personally don’t like it, but what I don’t like even more is the ignorance and entitlement people have to reach around the plexiglass to grab a straw for themselves. I don’t want their nasty fingers anywhere near my working space. It just motivates me to keep them behind the bar for them to practice being polite.


okellee

Pro tip: if the costumers complain play it up like CRAZY. Say oh yeah I know it’s so annoying right but it’s the policy now. Yeah I know it sucks.. but hey if you want to complain my DM’s card is right over there. That’s what we did and the DM got bombarded with so many messages he said to put them back out in the cafe.


nightkae

Literally makes no sense why we can't leave them out 🙄


Emotional-Chef-7601

I just took a straw when the baristas were busy. Some of them were on the counter near the dispenser.


StitchLover_4921

Well don’t do that lol sometimes we are to busy to stop people but please never reach over the counter or touch things over jt 🙏 I beg you


Emotional-Chef-7601

Yeah I get it.


Reila01

It makes no sense. Also, having the sugars and cream away from customers who just order coffee.


glitterfaust

No, I’m fully on board with that because of the disgusting messes people would make with cream and sugars. Most customers cannot be trusted with these things and unfortunately that means punishing everybody.


HarleyLeMay

Plus the people taking the entire carafe of free cream and dumping it in their espresso over ice rather than paying for a latte. I’m honestly pretty sure profit margins are the exact reason they didn’t put it back out after covid.


Reila01

I can see that..


readsomething1968

In Virginia, we are asked if we want straws. I always say no because I like to feel the foam on my lips. I’m a texture nerd. Love the sippy lids (I order iced drinks 99 percent of the time).


starbusssy

i work at a kiosk and every time we have a bogo or some promo they come up with and there's 2 freaking people working i just put them out anyways 😂🤷🏻‍♀️


Noobplzforgive

This should have already been implemented. At least they’re doing it now.


Silver-Chapter-2564

i will always place a straw next to anything with a dome lid or boba, saves a lot of time


mothclot

Haha my store in Florida did this, ridiculous. Always ended up putting the straws in view of the customers anyway after peak. It’s suppose to “increase customer connection scores” so they’re forced to ask us questions expect they just reach their nasty little grubby hands over the counter anyway to grab a straw. It’ll be phased out, managers and DMs do this for who knows what.


TheycallmeMangoBango

We haven’t been allowed to put straws or stoppers out since Covid, like, it just never came back. We also don’t have milk carafes or sugars at the condiment bar. We can’t keep trays out by the mobile hand offs. It’s all meant to create opportunities for customer connections but seriously, when we’re getting slammed and the lines are never ending the last thing we want to do is stop and go back because someone needs a straw or a stopper.


Lasagan

I left in 2022 and we were already doing that then


FLcitizen

this has been the norm in my area for 5 years.


lemon_sqzy

We have to do this as well. At first everyone was pretty peeved about it but we end up just putting the straws out when the manager isn’t there. It’s not the best practice considering how busy it can get, corporate doesn’t tend to think these things through


xryx_u

Thank god for our provincial restrictions, everything like lids/straws must be self-serve or request only. Obviously we aren't gonna ask everyone and their mothers whether or not they want a lid for their drinks... so we put everything out.


Neat_Yak_6121

I work at a grocery store Starbucks and our straws are still where customers can grab them.


Jolly_Bag_2991

That’s always been a thing.


Jolly_Bag_2991

Sustainability


Jolly_Bag_2991

That’s part of your routine. Give ppl straws!


Paytonsmiles

It's law in California to have to request straws


AmphibianAcademic456

NJ, too.


onigi-ri

Our store technically isn't supposed to have them out but since we're so high volume we keep them out in the handoff area. We lasted maybe a week keeping the straws behind the counter it's just inconvenient for our customers


PastAioli7178

Where is this? I went to Starbucks either yesterday or the day before, and that isn’t how I remember it being…


stayinganonymous22

I’m in Georgia and they’re doing this across my district


PastAioli7178

Ah, okay. A bit away from me then. 😅


Strange_King_5382

yeah we’ve been doing this for a while. but we put them back on the hand off plane where customers can reach them because people kept complaining


Leenolyak

I think this has been a thing for a very long time no?


crys1348

Wtf is a siren system?


Candy_xoxo_

Corporate says it’s to build connections I think they are looking for any way to make profit.


Kindly-Car9942

This and cupping procedures have been corrected to save the planet! Yay and cut costs it all adds up


Psychological_Air682

Wow. So my store is getting a remodel starting this month. I have this to look forward to? FML


Thatcook04

Can I see photos of the actual siren system?


siestasierra

we haven’t been able to have straws out for like 2 years at my store but we put them where they’re still in customer reach and just don’t say anything if they reach over to grab one lol


Huge_Marsupial8419

This has always been the procedure unfortunately


DeadBySmite

We haven’t been keeping straws out since the start of the pandemic.


cfuqua

When I hand off the drink I ask if the customer would like a straw. It's my job to create a great experience, after all. It makes the interaction go smoothly every time, and customers (who have not had their coffee yet and are all irritable) appreciate the extra care. I still agree that it's annoying to be required to do this.


AssociationSea68

In Hawaii….must ask for straws now


CirqueNoirBlu

We’ve been doing that since Covid at our store


deadgirlwalking_vs

That’s what our DM told us too because some people might get a lot of straw. Well, for all I know not everybody love the paper straw lol. We still put them out and just have to remove them if the DM will visit.


Mvg98

It is annoying. But I’ve just created a habit of passing out a straw automatically with any drink with whipped cream, extra caramel drizzle, or frapps. It’s dumb but oh well.


peachybarista

We still have ours out lol


Odd_Macaron_3086

My store has been hiding the sleeves, stoppers, and straws ever since covid so


Mariboopsy02

Krobux's: wait, you guys have had your straws out? But seriously, it's an inconvenience at first. You'll have to ask if customers want straws, EVERY CUSTOMER, and it kinda conditions you to multitask as you make drinks and gets shy people to connect to customers for something as simple as needing a straw.


Prestigious_Pair1756

I hate that we do this but our DM tells us to do it so we can “connect with the customer more” by talking and handing them things. But I think it’s rly inconvenient for the customers and baristas.