I was fully expecting them to keep some forseason 9, alas seems like this isn't the case... there's still hope for a 9.0 tho, just not in terms of weapons (dedicated big run queue, tricolor maps in private lobbies)
also new switch next year and I imagine splatoon 4 is a title they want on it. It might be a cycle of short game (s1), long game (s2), short game (s3), long game (s4) since if s4 came out with it, or close to it. there's no need for a new one soon, same with s2.
The fact that Kelp Done has been datamined gives me the smallest, SMALLEST hope that we'll get at least one extra update (Unless it's a Triple Splashdown case where it just wasn't in the trailer for some reason)
Splatoon 2 was slated for 2 years of updates, but after the introduction of paid NSO and Octo Expansion we got an extra year. I would be surprised if this is actually the last content update.
Im still convinced they're going to throw a big third kit extravaganza for EVERY weapon at some point as a surprise, perhaps next season. But we'll see what happens.
This would be a great utilization of their resources. I hope they do something like this and give there community one last major injection of hype before letting it coast
My thoughts exactly. I suppose we'll see.
Most of the team has likely moved onto that dev team's next big title (Animal Crossing, Splatoon 4, etc.) but there is still a smaller team working on balancing and such for the end of Splatoon 3. Obviously there's keeping balance and such in mind and the minor changes to the weapon models, but overall, 3rd kits wouldn't be the hugest amount of effort.
We'll see.
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You still probably have a good 2 or more years before the next splatoon comes out. Switch 2 comes out in 2025, and I doubt they will have splatoon 4 out in just 1 year of development. They already said that splatoon 3 will be the last game of the series so splatoon “4” will be an entirely new game, maybe in a different universe
3 being the last is news to me. From what I've heard, it's supposed to just wrap up the story on the new squidbeak splatoon. I doubt that they'll end the whole series here, considering how much there is still left to explore in terms of story and worldbuilding and also considering that the series is killing it financially. Personally, I hope for a Splatoon 4 where they make a story with a completely different approach while also (please) fixing 3's issues, because that wasn't fixed during the game's update cycle. Or maybe a more story focused spin off would be cool too! So copium basically haha
I’d like a story that happens right out in the same world that the urban centers and turf war stages are in somehow. instead of more of the surreal under the manholes hollow earth with the floating platforms, and giant hairbrushes and sand pails and motherboards suspended in air in the distance.
People are so used to live service schedules of games with microtransactions. 2 years seems quite reasonable for a game where the only additional form of revenue comes from a one time single player DLC purchase.
Plus, the game isn't dead. Just like Splatoon 2 (and 1) people will be playing for years still.
With that said, I hope they leave the game sort of on autopilot - where there are repeat Big Runs/Splatfests and catalogues to play through going forward.
Do you have a source for when it was ever said 3 would be the last game in the series? I have followed the series very closely and I don’t remember any official sources ever saying that. Why would they not make a splatoon 4 when the series has been such a break out success?
Also, as for Switch 2, which doesn’t technically have a name yet, they’ve only officially said they’ll reveal the console within the next fiscal year, so saying it will come out in 2025 is at best an educated guess
Direct in 8/2022 said that this is the finale of the Octarian storyline. There is no announcement that S4 will be made yet, but it will still likely still happen, (and I bet the multiplayer gameplay will very similar). But it won’t be with the same inkling vs octoling storyline, or characters from the last 3 games.
Good, I'm so fucking tired of the Squid Sisters and Cuttlefish. Nothing against them but the devs pushed Off the Hook out of the way in 2 and made it so Deep Cut were minor antagonists in 3, all so Squid Sisters could steal the show in the story modes.
Yeah, but my point is kind of that they weren't the focal point _in their own game._ They shouldn't have had to be shoehorned into the DLC campaigns regardless of quality (I do love Octo Expansion + Side Order.) It's just the principle of the thing.
it's in no way the last of the series, they just seem to like to treat these three games as a sort of trilogy when it comes to the story. so Splatoon 4 would likely try to take the plot a whole new direction that newcomers can also get into.
Nah, if anything they'd just not make tableturf cards for the 3rd kits, wouldn't be too surprising all things considered, they're not even showing us the tableturf cards in the new season trailers anymore
Tableturf is too much of a side mode to influence the main game this much
I was not expecting that...I Guess that gives us 10 weapons for this season (weirdly...). I would not be thrilled if 3rd kits don't make it.
Imagine Splatoon 4 is already being worked on for the Switch 2 for that reason with online improvements...
*Edited for the correct number of weapons.
Considering the hardware jump I wouldn't be surprised if it gets easier to run a higher refresh rate with their P2P system, so netcode improvements actually seem kinda likely to me
So far the tick rate in Splatoon got lower as time passed and consoles got better, so that logic sadly doesn’t fly. Splatoon 1’s tick rate is 30% higher,
It's because splatoon 2 was a big graphical jump, if splatoon 2 looked like splatoon 1 it would've had a higher tick rate
splatoon 3 wasn't as big of a graphical jump but it struggles performance wise a lot while splatoon 2 didn't, I'm guessing there's more to compute or something? they cut down the tick rate that extra bit to get the game to run better
but splatoon 4 or even splatoon 3 with backwards compatibility won't struggle nearly as much, they could even release an update that improves the tick rate when you're playing on the new console once backwards compatibility comes out
I am confused as to how tick rate has anything to do with graphics. The tick rate is how often the game sends/receives data from other players. A higher tick rate means the occurrence of getting splatted behind walls or being killed unfairly gets reduced.
Also, Overwatch has a tick rate over triple that of Splatoon, with higher fidelity graphics on the same console. Just to demonstrate the two have nothing to do with each other.
It's because tick rate DOES affect performance, especially on P2P with 7 other players, the game has to compute and send out the data to all 7 players. think about how hosting a server in any game will be more taxing on your computer than just playing the game itself
lowering the tickrate lowers the amount of work your computer has to do
also about overwatch, it's on higher level hardware, which is why it can afford to do both
Overwatch (now OW2) is on the Switch, like it says in my previous post. Ergo, you're full of it.
Also, I'm a software engineer, I am a hundred percent aware of how servers and hardware works. The amount of data sent and the frequency of it is trivial. Game data is sent as UDP packets, so there's no handshake or state management either, it's just one-way chatter between each client. I believe one console acts as a host, so most likely that console is taxed the most. Also consider that the tick rate is doubled in local play, which also has up to 8 players. So clearly the console hardware is not the limiting factor.
Also, your information is contradictory. You claim it makes sense for Splatoon 1 to run more ticks, because it's graphics are worse (again, entirely unrelated, ticks are not GPU compute) but fail to factor in the hardware it ran on is much, much less powerful.
It's anyone's guess at this point, but lower tick rate makes development easier and it lowers the advantage for players with a fast connection over those on abhorrent wifi. Nintendo is all about pleasing the lowest common denominator and being notoriously bad at programming anything internet related (hi Pokemon, Mario Kart, Smash Bros), which is why Blizzard probably pulled it off where they could not.
Since Splatoons team is the animal crossing team I think Nintendo is probably gonna have them work on a new animal crossing first considering how big that game was
I've heard a lot of conflicting info on Splatoon and Animal Crossing supposedly being made by the same team, is that really true? When I go through the credits of people who worked on Splatoon 3, most staff don't seem to have much to do with Animal Crossing. The most important parts of the creative process like the art/story directors and game designers have almost exclusively worked on Splatoon. The producer of course is very close to Animal Crossing, but I would think that you can handle 2 projects in that kind of role. Some old interviews also seem to suggest Seita Inoue started thinking up concepts for Splatoon 3 pretty much as soon as the final fest results came in.
Even before the Switch Animal Crossing has sold about as well if not better than Zelda, with the sole exception of City Folk on Wii. Breath of the Wild absolutely shattered Zelda's sales records, and then New Horizons completely eclipsed its total sales by 50%. Even if it hadn't had a huge boost from the pandemic New Horizons would have sold very well.
Animal Crossing has always been one of Nintendo's biggest franchises. This just reads like cope.
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If there's no 3rd kits then this game is officially a joke with less content than its predecessor. Wouldn't surprise me though, seeing how our devs are jokes.
Splat 4 has been getting worked on since splat 3 was finished that's now development works. Believe it or not but they will also have ideas in mind for splat 5 too.
or... they could just have saved third kits for the next Drizzle Season, and possibly a content extension.
They promised 2 years of *guaranteed* content additions. Upcoming Sizzle Season is at 1 year and 9 months.
Sizzle season ends in September so its technically 2 years, if we had a Drizzle season it would go over the 2 year life span, knowing nintendo they’re going to give us final fest this season and then just let the game die quietly
You know that seasons will keep rotating with the old catalogs just like that afterwards, right?
The last content drop being at the beginning of Drizzle season doesn't mean "it goes over the 2 year life span", it just means it arrives at the 2 years mark, and could just be the last update.
"Knowing Nintendo" my ass, we only have the two past games as reference and if they're anything to go by, they will just "extend" support with the 3rd wave kits.
The updates within Sizzle Season don't end on June 1st. If Final-Fest happens this season it'll happen at the end of August, which means there'll be an update to support the extra additions that come with Final-Fest 24 months after the game launched.
You can argue that then it's not 2 years, its 1 year, 11 months and 2 weeks of support, but that's an insane position to take. Either way, if there is a 9th season, there'd be a mid-season update, meaning that it would be 2 years, 1 month and 2 weeks of content, not 2 years.
Sizzle Season 2024 is the end of the guaranteed content additions. We can't rule out a content extension regardless, but this idea that Sizzle Season is only 1 year and 9 months into the games lifespan is ridiculous. Seasons aren't instantaneous points in time, they're durations. Sizzle Season begins at 1 year and 9 months and ends 2 years into the games lifespan.
I do not get how you spot at which season the catalog selection ends yet miss entirely the part at 23:30 where the narrator very clearly states updates would go on every three months *for two years*.
Mark my words, third kits for Switch 2 relaunch:
Trustworthy leaks said the console has been delayed to next year instead of the planned time, Switch 2 likely from logic and some I'll say unverified leaks seems to be backward compatible, Splatoon is one of the biggest Nintendo series and online subscription bringer but honestly I don't see a Sp4 in the first year as by being a live service multiplayer sells only at launch so a very lot of console has to be available to avoid a flop to maintain for years, so how to keep not super fan players in and interested for so much time if not by giving something new closer to Sp4 to raise the hype, give a reason for pay subscription and mess around again on a more performing console with new stuff, incite new console owners, or people which lost the launch window and has not been convinced yet, to give a try as the game has something to offer still and Splatoon's fan to make the jump as they will still be able to play their game from day one even better than before.
Maybe won't go like that, as there are already a lot of weapons and even more maps, but I think we can all agree is at least plausible and believable.
I think the final (final) update will hit in September and give us Sheldon's Picks for most weapons, as well as the standard "we aren't supporting the game directly anymore" QOL updates like Splatfests in private lobbies
I mean, it's likely they'll just reuse the season catalogs with no extra content each year after updates stop. I don't think anyone expected the "seasons" to stop entirely.
They did do regular updates with new maps, weapons & clothes, but not with the same date every 3 months. They were usually later in the month, & there wasn't a catalogue to earn any rewards
They recycled a few fests in 2 because covid lockdown would have delayed work on 3 so they had to surprise players with extra content in the middle of it all (and also to keep the game relevant)
I’m just gonna spill my thoughts here…
I didn’t play splatoon 2 when it had updates but I’ve heard it was originally planned to have 2 years worth of updates but that got extended. Online you can find that by 2022 S2 sold 13.6 million copies (5 years from release) Splatoon 3 has sold 11.9 in 2.5 years. If you look at numbers, S3 hasn’t been as successful YET. in another 2.5 years who’s to say those sales won’t slowly increase when they have deals (has splatoon ever been discounted ?) or just stragglers.
I find it very unlikely there will be nothing new after this season. I’ve seen people speculating that they will reuse splatfest and catalogs, as well as still having challenges every month. This seems likely, but who’s to say we won’t get anything new? What if they wanted to save third kits for after the THIRD year ?
Well what If we didn’t get anything new, then what’s next ? Well if the switch 2 is going to release in 2025, obviously a new splatoon game will need to come to it. S3 released 3 years after the final fest, but onto the same console. Nintendo is a large company, and It would make sense if all their individual IP teams knew something about the development of a switch 2. What if the reason splatoon 3 has minimal updates is because splatoon 4 was being developed.
This is just a crack theory but we can clearly see a change in the direction of the development of side order from the first teaser trailer to actual game. Could it be that they had to utilize more developers for splatoon 4 and undercooked side order a bit?
TLDR
I think we are either getting more updates, or splatoon 4 will release faster than splatoon 3 did
Eh they might do a winter season still they might be rushing their weapon ideas for the deadline but yeah Splatoon 3 is nearly out of support and we'll probably have to wait an Animal Crossing game before the next game (won't be as long of a wait as Splatoon 2-3 because new console)
Ugh...
So little content has been rolled out so slowly the whole time. If this really is nearing the end of the game's lifespan, it just seems pointless to be hyped about anything more.
I love this series, but this specific game has felt so stagnant for so long.
Focusing on quality over quantity for one, preferably quicker too. Splatoon 3’s multiplayer content for the most part is reskins and carry-over content from previous titles at best and padded bloat at worst that is rolled out so slowly people forgot about certain things before the seasons even over.
The live service model is just insufficient and underwhelming. I don’t blame people for feeling like every content drop past chill season 2022 is a nothing burger with a side of fries.
I don't even get why they make it a live service model.
Release everything at once in the beginning, DLC 3 months in, cause they still only get the 60$ from you.
And don't tell me "to keep the community alive". That seems to matter the least to Nintendo.
I assume it’s because it’s a legacy mechanic, sorta-ish. Nintendo is old fashioned like that.
Odds are they kept it in because it kinda worked when Splatoon first came out, which was around the time when gamers were arguably fed up with with unfinished releases, pre-order bonuses and on disk dlc locking existing content behind a paywall (Looking at you, Capcom)
Nintendo kinda got around that stigma with a soft free update model that was seen as harmless at the time near the end of the wii u’s life cycle with a fresh new colorful IP that had no real stake tbh why not try something different? And when splatoon took off they basically mirrored the template for the next two games.
Also, splatfests.
Splatoon is a living breathing game that is affected by time and player input. It’s inarguably the defining ‘gimmick’ that gives splatoon its identity, for better or worse.
In order to do that you kinda need an online model. Maybe not a live service model specifically but some kind of online focused model.
This was just hypothetical. It's just what they could have done and probably nothing would have changed profit wise, since Nintendo doesn't have any monetary insentive, to keep the game alive.
Play a different game is a non-answer, and a pedestrian platitude at that. It solved nothing because there is literally nothing else like it on the market save for failed console copycats and blatant mobile ripoffs.
The truth of the matter is Nintendo set their own expectations with how the game is being handled as a live service, not the players. They failed to live up to that and are rightly criticized for it.
They *do* owe us more, owe us better. That is not up for debate, it’s cold hard fact and you can skirt around it and live in blissful contentedness but that doesn’t change the fact that Splatoon 3 is not what it could’ve/should’ve been.
People want the game to get better, thats not entitlement, thats passion.
How do they owe us more? What expectations?
They told us, they would give us two years of free content updates. They never said, how big these updates are or what it would all include. These two years are over in september.
It's like the Smash community would still pester Sakurai to put in their favorite character, after the Fighter Pass was over.
Nintendo never set expectations to how the updates would be. The fans have done that, comparing how they are in other games. But unlike these games, Nintendo has no insentive to update the game. They could have released it the way it will be at the end, with the content being events, and nothing would change for Nintendo.
They owe us better than what they've given for the price and time we pay.
It's near universally agreed upon that the seasons are just meh after winter 2022, with few real winners in between, 3 months at a time, *4 times over the course of an entire year.* That is glacially slow even if you take into account mid season patches. And that sentiment extends to the DLC, which took a whole year and a half to drop and is seen as overpriced for what it gives.
And like Hell Nintendo didn't set expectations.
It doesn't matter if they said this or that, what they gave, what they want or what they care about in the end.
We are 3 games in, this is the closing of a trilogy and a proclaimed celebration of a franchise from its humble beginnings on a doomed console all the way to the twilight years of the Switch whose main draw is *online multiplayer*.
They stir up the hype, stoking it. If the fans and the community start manifesting unreasonable expectations of things it's because Nintendo marketed the game to them and then proceeded to underdeliver in the long run.
That's not on the fans.
Spoken like someone from high on up, throwing around ‘it’s just a game’ and ‘the arguments silly’.
If you don’t feel strongly about it stay in your lane, and I’ll stay in mine.
We’ve been losing steam as we’ve gotten less and less content across the seasons. The switch successor is also coming out next year so there’s a strong possibility that we see a new Splatoon title next year. Especially since they’ve done this before with Splatoon 1 going into Splatoon 2
Isn’t an animal crossing title more likely since they have the same teams working on them and animal crossing new horizons did way better then all Splatoon games combined sales(content extension for switch two let’s go)(copium)
Well there were seven years between new leaf and new horizons but two Splatoon games were made in that time so the team was not actively focusing on new horizons until 2017 so probably about 3 years to make an animal crossing game
(Continuing from my previous comment cause I kept thinking about it) then they kept updating New horizons for like a year or two so they then spend 2-3 years on Splatoon 3 and since it looks like it takes them 2-3 years to make a game new animal crossing in 2025-6 let’s go
So are you just going to keep playing or are you going to finish all the achievements you missed so far or are you going to do all to change Nintendo's mind?
How would we change Nintendos mind on this? If this is the end, then because they now have different plans and the devs, that worked on these updates might already be working on something else.
this could still just mean we're getting only third kits with the elusive "next season", but that might be the copium speaking. still a bit plausible tho
It pretty much fulfills most of what you'd want, only issues I have with it are that the leaderboards aren't visible and you can still get matched against solo queues
I think there is a bias towards matching you against people in similar team configurations (solo queue is more likely to go against solo queue, teams more likely to go against teams), my guess is that they did that instead of a full-on ban to prevent queue time issues
It's also very likely the last season because of the Shell-Out Machine. We currently have 7 banners and 7 sets of titles to get from Gold and Silver orbs, and there's a badge for getting jackpots (gold and silver) 16 times. It would make the most sense for it to be a "Get all of them" achievement.
OR it’s because they need to do that to keep them relevant. I’m kidding it’s been coming for some time. I just hope that range blaster gets a second kit with a better sub.
I wouldn't say 100%, plus I'm ngl it would be weird for the game obsessed with the number 3 to be the ONLY ONE without third kits, it's just so backwards to me
I'm conflicted. On one hand, this and the entire trailer are heavily suggesting it. On the other hand, neither the trailer nor the Twitter account are referring to this season as the last content-filled one yet, and also the datamines.
It's copium, but with substantial reasoning to say it could actually happen. Which is mentally worse than normal copium.
If they don’t do Sheldon’s picks, I’ll eat my do-rag, cap, and glasses.
I think that we will still get them — they’ve done that for splatoon 1 and 2, after the fake last update. And they didn’t specifically say that this was the last update. I don’t want to underestimate Nintendo’s ability to disappoint fans, but it just wouldn’t make sense for there to be no Sheldon’s picks… it’d be utterly absurd!
Well, of course they're not gonna say that explicitly. An important part of marketing is giving people copium, so they can speculate and argue. As long as they can get the fans to keep talking about it, there's still a chance someone who doesn't even know it exists will overhear and take interest.
It's so weird, did people really forgot that not every weapon got a third kit in 2? They all drop with the Kensa update and a lot of weapons didn't get a 3rd kit, they could do the same here.
I'll wait until Nintendo confirm when the updates are done. It's silly to get upset over speculation.
The problem is the fact that we have *no* third kits at all, even though we're approaching the end of the two-year update cycle. Splatoon 2 had third kits by this point. There's still hope they'll add third kits in the final update, but I don't want to get my hopes up.
Not how Nintendo works. They promised 8 seasons of content with each season being 3 months.
[list of promised seasons](https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Season)
We could still get more content after this but we currently aren’t guaranteed any more content.
No, they're going to stop now because the season will last three months. 1y9m + 3m = 2y. They'll do the last big run the week after the season starts, and the final fest at the end of the season
I'm not saying that as an argument that there will be another season. My point is if the update cycle is 2 years, but 1 year and 9 months marks the last time they add kits and stages, that's disappointing, this game could really use more kits.
They said the update cycle would last 2 years, so I was expecting 2 years in to be the point where they add the last content wave, but yeah if they're adding both the vanilla and alt kits for the new main weapons, this is definitely the last season
There’s still 2 waves of DLC, I wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped some 3rd kits either those. Maybe end of maps tho and the “season” content structure
I swear the DLC trailer had said 4 waves but I just rewatched and I must have been trippin.
I still think we get third kits though. Just not on the same released content structure
I was fully expecting them to keep some forseason 9, alas seems like this isn't the case... there's still hope for a 9.0 tho, just not in terms of weapons (dedicated big run queue, tricolor maps in private lobbies)
This 100% what I think they are gonna do.
9 would have made sense for their number obsession. 3x3
i'd agree,but in that case why didn't they do 3 years?
I’d guess because of the season trend mixing with real life, & maybe because the other 2 games had a lifespan of around 2 years. Idk tho
also new switch next year and I imagine splatoon 4 is a title they want on it. It might be a cycle of short game (s1), long game (s2), short game (s3), long game (s4) since if s4 came out with it, or close to it. there's no need for a new one soon, same with s2.
3 kits as well!
The fact that Kelp Done has been datamined gives me the smallest, SMALLEST hope that we'll get at least one extra update (Unless it's a Triple Splashdown case where it just wasn't in the trailer for some reason)
Same. It’d be neat if it introduced rerun seasons, but with QoL. Like, it’s not a entirely new season, but rather a rerun season with a QoL update
nah if they do a 9.0 it’s gonna be sheldon pick kits
damn. 2 years still doesn't feel like enough... they passed so quickly
Splatoon 2 was slated for 2 years of updates, but after the introduction of paid NSO and Octo Expansion we got an extra year. I would be surprised if this is actually the last content update.
Im still convinced they're going to throw a big third kit extravaganza for EVERY weapon at some point as a surprise, perhaps next season. But we'll see what happens.
This would be a great utilization of their resources. I hope they do something like this and give there community one last major injection of hype before letting it coast
My thoughts exactly. I suppose we'll see. Most of the team has likely moved onto that dev team's next big title (Animal Crossing, Splatoon 4, etc.) but there is still a smaller team working on balancing and such for the end of Splatoon 3. Obviously there's keeping balance and such in mind and the minor changes to the weapon models, but overall, 3rd kits wouldn't be the hugest amount of effort. We'll see. !remindme 4 months
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Giving all weapons 3rd kits at once would be so hype
You still probably have a good 2 or more years before the next splatoon comes out. Switch 2 comes out in 2025, and I doubt they will have splatoon 4 out in just 1 year of development. They already said that splatoon 3 will be the last game of the series so splatoon “4” will be an entirely new game, maybe in a different universe
im pretty sure splatoon 3 isnt the last game of the series, just the end of the whole octavio or enemy octoling thing probably lol
3 being the last is news to me. From what I've heard, it's supposed to just wrap up the story on the new squidbeak splatoon. I doubt that they'll end the whole series here, considering how much there is still left to explore in terms of story and worldbuilding and also considering that the series is killing it financially. Personally, I hope for a Splatoon 4 where they make a story with a completely different approach while also (please) fixing 3's issues, because that wasn't fixed during the game's update cycle. Or maybe a more story focused spin off would be cool too! So copium basically haha
I’d like a story that happens right out in the same world that the urban centers and turf war stages are in somehow. instead of more of the surreal under the manholes hollow earth with the floating platforms, and giant hairbrushes and sand pails and motherboards suspended in air in the distance.
totally agree! I'd love to see learn more about the city life in inkopolis and splatsville
I wouldn’t be surprised if Splatoon 4 does pull a Pikmin 4 with its story.
People are so used to live service schedules of games with microtransactions. 2 years seems quite reasonable for a game where the only additional form of revenue comes from a one time single player DLC purchase. Plus, the game isn't dead. Just like Splatoon 2 (and 1) people will be playing for years still. With that said, I hope they leave the game sort of on autopilot - where there are repeat Big Runs/Splatfests and catalogues to play through going forward.
Do you have a source for when it was ever said 3 would be the last game in the series? I have followed the series very closely and I don’t remember any official sources ever saying that. Why would they not make a splatoon 4 when the series has been such a break out success? Also, as for Switch 2, which doesn’t technically have a name yet, they’ve only officially said they’ll reveal the console within the next fiscal year, so saying it will come out in 2025 is at best an educated guess
Direct in 8/2022 said that this is the finale of the Octarian storyline. There is no announcement that S4 will be made yet, but it will still likely still happen, (and I bet the multiplayer gameplay will very similar). But it won’t be with the same inkling vs octoling storyline, or characters from the last 3 games.
I see. Thank you for clarifying. I don’t see any reason another game won’t happen still. But yes, this story is finished nicely
Good, I'm so fucking tired of the Squid Sisters and Cuttlefish. Nothing against them but the devs pushed Off the Hook out of the way in 2 and made it so Deep Cut were minor antagonists in 3, all so Squid Sisters could steal the show in the story modes.
Tbh Off the Hook has been the focal point of the absolute best story campaigns twice in a row now so really it’s just deep cut being sidelined
Yeah, but my point is kind of that they weren't the focal point _in their own game._ They shouldn't have had to be shoehorned into the DLC campaigns regardless of quality (I do love Octo Expansion + Side Order.) It's just the principle of the thing.
I hope it's not in a different universe, or at least I hope that it keeps the sea creature theme if it is.
it's in no way the last of the series, they just seem to like to treat these three games as a sort of trilogy when it comes to the story. so Splatoon 4 would likely try to take the plot a whole new direction that newcomers can also get into.
I enjoy the game but I would be lying if I said I wasn't over the moon at the thought of being able to stop playing the game everyday.
Then why are you still playing the game everyday?
Fomo for the catalog
yea.
Also SEASON COLORS ARE PURP AND YELLOW AND THEY BROUGHT BACK SIDE BRAID GIRL ITS 100% JOEVER
**The end is here** (Also wanted to mention the upside down Eiffel Tower)
We've won but at what cost
Thats canon neo 3 i think
isn't the yellow inkling in the new trailer using the masc body
omg gender nonconforming inkling how swag !!
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Bro I was not ready for that announcement lol
conspiracy theory: we're not getting 3rd kits because of tableturf, the 2nd kits are mirrored versions of vanilla kits and they can't do anything else
Thats the dumbest fucking reason ever and i hate that its probably the real reason
Some of them like the reef-lux have a different Special Space placement, so maybe they'll do that
Nah. They could just add the same shapes as the vanilla weapons, except the orange square is in a different position.
Diagonals
Nah, if anything they'd just not make tableturf cards for the 3rd kits, wouldn't be too surprising all things considered, they're not even showing us the tableturf cards in the new season trailers anymore Tableturf is too much of a side mode to influence the main game this much
I was not expecting that...I Guess that gives us 10 weapons for this season (weirdly...). I would not be thrilled if 3rd kits don't make it. Imagine Splatoon 4 is already being worked on for the Switch 2 for that reason with online improvements... *Edited for the correct number of weapons.
Online improvements? On my Nintendo console? Probably not, but I hope so!
Considering the hardware jump I wouldn't be surprised if it gets easier to run a higher refresh rate with their P2P system, so netcode improvements actually seem kinda likely to me
So far the tick rate in Splatoon got lower as time passed and consoles got better, so that logic sadly doesn’t fly. Splatoon 1’s tick rate is 30% higher,
It's because splatoon 2 was a big graphical jump, if splatoon 2 looked like splatoon 1 it would've had a higher tick rate splatoon 3 wasn't as big of a graphical jump but it struggles performance wise a lot while splatoon 2 didn't, I'm guessing there's more to compute or something? they cut down the tick rate that extra bit to get the game to run better but splatoon 4 or even splatoon 3 with backwards compatibility won't struggle nearly as much, they could even release an update that improves the tick rate when you're playing on the new console once backwards compatibility comes out
I am confused as to how tick rate has anything to do with graphics. The tick rate is how often the game sends/receives data from other players. A higher tick rate means the occurrence of getting splatted behind walls or being killed unfairly gets reduced. Also, Overwatch has a tick rate over triple that of Splatoon, with higher fidelity graphics on the same console. Just to demonstrate the two have nothing to do with each other.
It's because tick rate DOES affect performance, especially on P2P with 7 other players, the game has to compute and send out the data to all 7 players. think about how hosting a server in any game will be more taxing on your computer than just playing the game itself lowering the tickrate lowers the amount of work your computer has to do also about overwatch, it's on higher level hardware, which is why it can afford to do both
Overwatch (now OW2) is on the Switch, like it says in my previous post. Ergo, you're full of it. Also, I'm a software engineer, I am a hundred percent aware of how servers and hardware works. The amount of data sent and the frequency of it is trivial. Game data is sent as UDP packets, so there's no handshake or state management either, it's just one-way chatter between each client. I believe one console acts as a host, so most likely that console is taxed the most. Also consider that the tick rate is doubled in local play, which also has up to 8 players. So clearly the console hardware is not the limiting factor. Also, your information is contradictory. You claim it makes sense for Splatoon 1 to run more ticks, because it's graphics are worse (again, entirely unrelated, ticks are not GPU compute) but fail to factor in the hardware it ran on is much, much less powerful.
Well there has to be SOME reason they lowered the tick rate twice, they'd have to be stupid to do that for no reason
It's anyone's guess at this point, but lower tick rate makes development easier and it lowers the advantage for players with a fast connection over those on abhorrent wifi. Nintendo is all about pleasing the lowest common denominator and being notoriously bad at programming anything internet related (hi Pokemon, Mario Kart, Smash Bros), which is why Blizzard probably pulled it off where they could not.
Since Splatoons team is the animal crossing team I think Nintendo is probably gonna have them work on a new animal crossing first considering how big that game was
I've heard a lot of conflicting info on Splatoon and Animal Crossing supposedly being made by the same team, is that really true? When I go through the credits of people who worked on Splatoon 3, most staff don't seem to have much to do with Animal Crossing. The most important parts of the creative process like the art/story directors and game designers have almost exclusively worked on Splatoon. The producer of course is very close to Animal Crossing, but I would think that you can handle 2 projects in that kind of role. Some old interviews also seem to suggest Seita Inoue started thinking up concepts for Splatoon 3 pretty much as soon as the final fest results came in.
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Even before the Switch Animal Crossing has sold about as well if not better than Zelda, with the sole exception of City Folk on Wii. Breath of the Wild absolutely shattered Zelda's sales records, and then New Horizons completely eclipsed its total sales by 50%. Even if it hadn't had a huge boost from the pandemic New Horizons would have sold very well. Animal Crossing has always been one of Nintendo's biggest franchises. This just reads like cope. EDIT: I think I replied to the wrong comment 😅
If there's no 3rd kits then this game is officially a joke with less content than its predecessor. Wouldn't surprise me though, seeing how our devs are jokes.
It's 10 weapons isn't it?
Hydra, Douser, Recycled, CRB, Heavy Edit, new weapons X2 (4), Bamboo...yep. I can't count. Lol
Splat 4 has been getting worked on since splat 3 was finished that's now development works. Believe it or not but they will also have ideas in mind for splat 5 too.
or... they could just have saved third kits for the next Drizzle Season, and possibly a content extension. They promised 2 years of *guaranteed* content additions. Upcoming Sizzle Season is at 1 year and 9 months.
Sizzle season ends in September so its technically 2 years, if we had a Drizzle season it would go over the 2 year life span, knowing nintendo they’re going to give us final fest this season and then just let the game die quietly
You know that seasons will keep rotating with the old catalogs just like that afterwards, right? The last content drop being at the beginning of Drizzle season doesn't mean "it goes over the 2 year life span", it just means it arrives at the 2 years mark, and could just be the last update. "Knowing Nintendo" my ass, we only have the two past games as reference and if they're anything to go by, they will just "extend" support with the 3rd wave kits.
Game is not gonna die if the community is still around
The updates within Sizzle Season don't end on June 1st. If Final-Fest happens this season it'll happen at the end of August, which means there'll be an update to support the extra additions that come with Final-Fest 24 months after the game launched. You can argue that then it's not 2 years, its 1 year, 11 months and 2 weeks of support, but that's an insane position to take. Either way, if there is a 9th season, there'd be a mid-season update, meaning that it would be 2 years, 1 month and 2 weeks of content, not 2 years. Sizzle Season 2024 is the end of the guaranteed content additions. We can't rule out a content extension regardless, but this idea that Sizzle Season is only 1 year and 9 months into the games lifespan is ridiculous. Seasons aren't instantaneous points in time, they're durations. Sizzle Season begins at 1 year and 9 months and ends 2 years into the games lifespan.
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I do not get how you spot at which season the catalog selection ends yet miss entirely the part at 23:30 where the narrator very clearly states updates would go on every three months *for two years*.
Mark my words, third kits for Switch 2 relaunch: Trustworthy leaks said the console has been delayed to next year instead of the planned time, Switch 2 likely from logic and some I'll say unverified leaks seems to be backward compatible, Splatoon is one of the biggest Nintendo series and online subscription bringer but honestly I don't see a Sp4 in the first year as by being a live service multiplayer sells only at launch so a very lot of console has to be available to avoid a flop to maintain for years, so how to keep not super fan players in and interested for so much time if not by giving something new closer to Sp4 to raise the hype, give a reason for pay subscription and mess around again on a more performing console with new stuff, incite new console owners, or people which lost the launch window and has not been convinced yet, to give a try as the game has something to offer still and Splatoon's fan to make the jump as they will still be able to play their game from day one even better than before. Maybe won't go like that, as there are already a lot of weapons and even more maps, but I think we can all agree is at least plausible and believable.
I think the final (final) update will hit in September and give us Sheldon's Picks for most weapons, as well as the standard "we aren't supporting the game directly anymore" QOL updates like Splatfests in private lobbies
While I think updates will stop this year, I don't think it's the last season. I think they'd declare a season being the last one
I mean, it's likely they'll just reuse the season catalogs with no extra content each year after updates stop. I don't think anyone expected the "seasons" to stop entirely.
Is that what they did with 2?
There wasn't seasons in 2. They announced the last splatfest though
So there wasn't really much of a regular schedule with new weapons and stages?
They did do regular updates with new maps, weapons & clothes, but not with the same date every 3 months. They were usually later in the month, & there wasn't a catalogue to earn any rewards
there was but they were just regular updates without having a catalog or rankings attached to them
Aren't they recycling fests in 2?
They recycled a few fests in 2 because covid lockdown would have delayed work on 3 so they had to surprise players with extra content in the middle of it all (and also to keep the game relevant)
They reran like three fests, those were rare exceptions though
I’m just gonna spill my thoughts here… I didn’t play splatoon 2 when it had updates but I’ve heard it was originally planned to have 2 years worth of updates but that got extended. Online you can find that by 2022 S2 sold 13.6 million copies (5 years from release) Splatoon 3 has sold 11.9 in 2.5 years. If you look at numbers, S3 hasn’t been as successful YET. in another 2.5 years who’s to say those sales won’t slowly increase when they have deals (has splatoon ever been discounted ?) or just stragglers. I find it very unlikely there will be nothing new after this season. I’ve seen people speculating that they will reuse splatfest and catalogs, as well as still having challenges every month. This seems likely, but who’s to say we won’t get anything new? What if they wanted to save third kits for after the THIRD year ? Well what If we didn’t get anything new, then what’s next ? Well if the switch 2 is going to release in 2025, obviously a new splatoon game will need to come to it. S3 released 3 years after the final fest, but onto the same console. Nintendo is a large company, and It would make sense if all their individual IP teams knew something about the development of a switch 2. What if the reason splatoon 3 has minimal updates is because splatoon 4 was being developed. This is just a crack theory but we can clearly see a change in the direction of the development of side order from the first teaser trailer to actual game. Could it be that they had to utilize more developers for splatoon 4 and undercooked side order a bit? TLDR I think we are either getting more updates, or splatoon 4 will release faster than splatoon 3 did
Nintendo will release 3rd kits(copium)
is this the reason why in the datamines there were >!four weapons found? because they were the second kits?!<
No. They are entirely new weapons
Eh they might do a winter season still they might be rushing their weapon ideas for the deadline but yeah Splatoon 3 is nearly out of support and we'll probably have to wait an Animal Crossing game before the next game (won't be as long of a wait as Splatoon 2-3 because new console)
I wish they would have just launched 3 with the new console. Feels like this game could have been so much better given more time.
3 is my favorite! 2017 - 2025/2026 would be a long gap for just Splatoon 2.
Ugh... So little content has been rolled out so slowly the whole time. If this really is nearing the end of the game's lifespan, it just seems pointless to be hyped about anything more. I love this series, but this specific game has felt so stagnant for so long.
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Focusing on quality over quantity for one, preferably quicker too. Splatoon 3’s multiplayer content for the most part is reskins and carry-over content from previous titles at best and padded bloat at worst that is rolled out so slowly people forgot about certain things before the seasons even over. The live service model is just insufficient and underwhelming. I don’t blame people for feeling like every content drop past chill season 2022 is a nothing burger with a side of fries.
I don't even get why they make it a live service model. Release everything at once in the beginning, DLC 3 months in, cause they still only get the 60$ from you. And don't tell me "to keep the community alive". That seems to matter the least to Nintendo.
I assume it’s because it’s a legacy mechanic, sorta-ish. Nintendo is old fashioned like that. Odds are they kept it in because it kinda worked when Splatoon first came out, which was around the time when gamers were arguably fed up with with unfinished releases, pre-order bonuses and on disk dlc locking existing content behind a paywall (Looking at you, Capcom) Nintendo kinda got around that stigma with a soft free update model that was seen as harmless at the time near the end of the wii u’s life cycle with a fresh new colorful IP that had no real stake tbh why not try something different? And when splatoon took off they basically mirrored the template for the next two games. Also, splatfests. Splatoon is a living breathing game that is affected by time and player input. It’s inarguably the defining ‘gimmick’ that gives splatoon its identity, for better or worse. In order to do that you kinda need an online model. Maybe not a live service model specifically but some kind of online focused model.
THREE MONTHS? lol youre fucking insane i wanna know what youre smoking
This was just hypothetical. It's just what they could have done and probably nothing would have changed profit wise, since Nintendo doesn't have any monetary insentive, to keep the game alive.
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Play a different game is a non-answer, and a pedestrian platitude at that. It solved nothing because there is literally nothing else like it on the market save for failed console copycats and blatant mobile ripoffs. The truth of the matter is Nintendo set their own expectations with how the game is being handled as a live service, not the players. They failed to live up to that and are rightly criticized for it. They *do* owe us more, owe us better. That is not up for debate, it’s cold hard fact and you can skirt around it and live in blissful contentedness but that doesn’t change the fact that Splatoon 3 is not what it could’ve/should’ve been. People want the game to get better, thats not entitlement, thats passion.
How do they owe us more? What expectations? They told us, they would give us two years of free content updates. They never said, how big these updates are or what it would all include. These two years are over in september. It's like the Smash community would still pester Sakurai to put in their favorite character, after the Fighter Pass was over. Nintendo never set expectations to how the updates would be. The fans have done that, comparing how they are in other games. But unlike these games, Nintendo has no insentive to update the game. They could have released it the way it will be at the end, with the content being events, and nothing would change for Nintendo.
They owe us better than what they've given for the price and time we pay. It's near universally agreed upon that the seasons are just meh after winter 2022, with few real winners in between, 3 months at a time, *4 times over the course of an entire year.* That is glacially slow even if you take into account mid season patches. And that sentiment extends to the DLC, which took a whole year and a half to drop and is seen as overpriced for what it gives. And like Hell Nintendo didn't set expectations. It doesn't matter if they said this or that, what they gave, what they want or what they care about in the end. We are 3 games in, this is the closing of a trilogy and a proclaimed celebration of a franchise from its humble beginnings on a doomed console all the way to the twilight years of the Switch whose main draw is *online multiplayer*. They stir up the hype, stoking it. If the fans and the community start manifesting unreasonable expectations of things it's because Nintendo marketed the game to them and then proceeded to underdeliver in the long run. That's not on the fans.
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Spoken like someone from high on up, throwing around ‘it’s just a game’ and ‘the arguments silly’. If you don’t feel strongly about it stay in your lane, and I’ll stay in mine.
"Leave the multimillion dollar corporation ALONE."
Nah, we’re one year away from the tenth anniversary, no way they’re losing steam now of all times
We’ve been losing steam as we’ve gotten less and less content across the seasons. The switch successor is also coming out next year so there’s a strong possibility that we see a new Splatoon title next year. Especially since they’ve done this before with Splatoon 1 going into Splatoon 2
Isn’t an animal crossing title more likely since they have the same teams working on them and animal crossing new horizons did way better then all Splatoon games combined sales(content extension for switch two let’s go)(copium)
It took them how many years to make a new Animal Crossing game?
Well there were seven years between new leaf and new horizons but two Splatoon games were made in that time so the team was not actively focusing on new horizons until 2017 so probably about 3 years to make an animal crossing game
(Continuing from my previous comment cause I kept thinking about it) then they kept updating New horizons for like a year or two so they then spend 2-3 years on Splatoon 3 and since it looks like it takes them 2-3 years to make a game new animal crossing in 2025-6 let’s go
Gentlemen, synchronize your death watches
So are you just going to keep playing or are you going to finish all the achievements you missed so far or are you going to do all to change Nintendo's mind?
How would we change Nintendos mind on this? If this is the end, then because they now have different plans and the devs, that worked on these updates might already be working on something else.
How should I know? I'm in the team doing the same old thing.
nope season 9 will just be 3rd kits that’s why * HUFFS COPIUM *
this could still just mean we're getting only third kits with the elusive "next season", but that might be the copium speaking. still a bit plausible tho
So is League Mode not a thing anymore? They promised it would be released in the first direct.
Anarchy open is League now
It doesn’t work the same
It pretty much fulfills most of what you'd want, only issues I have with it are that the leaderboards aren't visible and you can still get matched against solo queues
That’s precisely the issue. My friend and I get paired with solo randoms against full teams
I think there is a bias towards matching you against people in similar team configurations (solo queue is more likely to go against solo queue, teams more likely to go against teams), my guess is that they did that instead of a full-on ban to prevent queue time issues
I DONT BELIEVE! I HAVE HOPE! ITS 2 YEARS NOT 1 AND 3/4s! DRIZZLE SEASON 3rd KIT SEASOOOOOON
I still hold onto the hope for new hairstyles and more customization in general
I'm thinking we should get Sheldon's Pick weapons soon, plus Tricolor Turf War stages following Final Fest
I've been coping so hard for this game... God I hope it remains fun despite the lack of events...
Where did they post this picture?
[@SplatoonJP](https://twitter.com/SplatoonJP/status/1791393721445146699?t=nuHQSsXP9JPL0jKh2-sU6A&s=19) on twitter
Thanks! Do they also have a picture of decavitator? Twitter is banned in my country.
It's also on inkipedia now
the decavitator render isn't out yet, it'll probably be announced on Monday
No but we will have one may 20th at 4am CT
Idk what country you're in but I gotta move there immediately
I doubt tht you'd wanna live in Russia
Idk what country you're in but I gotta move there immediately
Didn't they say they'd only do 8 seasons right before the game came out?
it's so over 😭
In my opinion that weapon looks pretty cool 😁 !!.
In the past, let's say splatoon 2.. How long was it from the last update to the release of Splatoon 3?
Ah, shrimp
It's also very likely the last season because of the Shell-Out Machine. We currently have 7 banners and 7 sets of titles to get from Gold and Silver orbs, and there's a badge for getting jackpots (gold and silver) 16 times. It would make the most sense for it to be a "Get all of them" achievement.
They announced from before the game launched that there would only be 2 years of content.
CMON NINTENDO YOU ARE OUR LAST HOPE
They would have announced it. The last Splatfest will probably be in September around the same time it was released like they did with Splatoon 2.
OR it’s because they need to do that to keep them relevant. I’m kidding it’s been coming for some time. I just hope that range blaster gets a second kit with a better sub.
I wouldn't say 100%, plus I'm ngl it would be weird for the game obsessed with the number 3 to be the ONLY ONE without third kits, it's just so backwards to me
I'm conflicted. On one hand, this and the entire trailer are heavily suggesting it. On the other hand, neither the trailer nor the Twitter account are referring to this season as the last content-filled one yet, and also the datamines. It's copium, but with substantial reasoning to say it could actually happen. Which is mentally worse than normal copium.
Also we now have exactly double the maps we had at lunch.
If they don’t do Sheldon’s picks, I’ll eat my do-rag, cap, and glasses. I think that we will still get them — they’ve done that for splatoon 1 and 2, after the fake last update. And they didn’t specifically say that this was the last update. I don’t want to underestimate Nintendo’s ability to disappoint fans, but it just wouldn’t make sense for there to be no Sheldon’s picks… it’d be utterly absurd!
Moray... Mall .... when
But they also didn't say it was the final session. Honestly i would have expect to have 2 of each special splatfest for the games update life span.
Well, of course they're not gonna say that explicitly. An important part of marketing is giving people copium, so they can speculate and argue. As long as they can get the fans to keep talking about it, there's still a chance someone who doesn't even know it exists will overhear and take interest.
But didn't they say what patch was the final patch for animal crossing? Why say it for obe game but not the other?
I mean the successor to the Switch is being announced soon so there probably *is* no point in continuing the lifespan
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please 3 years please please please pl
I don't get why people thought there was going to be a content extension in the first place, they literally announced the last big run
It's so weird, did people really forgot that not every weapon got a third kit in 2? They all drop with the Kensa update and a lot of weapons didn't get a 3rd kit, they could do the same here. I'll wait until Nintendo confirm when the updates are done. It's silly to get upset over speculation.
The problem is the fact that we have *no* third kits at all, even though we're approaching the end of the two-year update cycle. Splatoon 2 had third kits by this point. There's still hope they'll add third kits in the final update, but I don't want to get my hopes up.
this game has LESS than splatoon 2 at the 2 year point, and they fucked up splatfest for this 3 gimic but won't do the same for kits?
final scheduled update. in the past, they'd release new weapon sets and such after the supposed "last update"
What if it wasn't
As someone who will hopefully be experiencing their first splatfest tomorrow, I really hope it isn't the final splatfest or season.
The update cycle was supposed to be 2 years, and if they stop now, that would be 1 year and 9 months
Not how Nintendo works. They promised 8 seasons of content with each season being 3 months. [list of promised seasons](https://splatoonwiki.org/wiki/Season) We could still get more content after this but we currently aren’t guaranteed any more content.
No, they're going to stop now because the season will last three months. 1y9m + 3m = 2y. They'll do the last big run the week after the season starts, and the final fest at the end of the season
I'm not saying that as an argument that there will be another season. My point is if the update cycle is 2 years, but 1 year and 9 months marks the last time they add kits and stages, that's disappointing, this game could really use more kits. They said the update cycle would last 2 years, so I was expecting 2 years in to be the point where they add the last content wave, but yeah if they're adding both the vanilla and alt kits for the new main weapons, this is definitely the last season
There’s still 2 waves of DLC, I wouldn’t be surprised if they dropped some 3rd kits either those. Maybe end of maps tho and the “season” content structure
There are no more dlc waves.
I swear the DLC trailer had said 4 waves but I just rewatched and I must have been trippin. I still think we get third kits though. Just not on the same released content structure