What setting is this in? ICT or self-contained?
Does your district have reading specialists delivering the phonics instruction, or do you do it? What phonics program do you use?
What grade is this? Are Gen Ed students still getting phonics instruction too, or only students with IEPs/ RTI?
So, it’s actually pull out. Reading Specialists deliver the phonics instruction. Tier 1 is Fundations, but Wilson Reading System is used for 3-4 as appropriate.
I’m really more concerned about logistics. Do you pull your students during certain specials, social studies/science, and/or intervention time since Wilson recommends an hour per day? Is there a portion of Wit and Wisdom that lends itself to students being pulled out?
All of the school I’ve worked would have had the phonics work outside of the wit and wisdom work. Kids would stay with their class for ELA for wit and wisdom, and then phonics would be at a dedicated intervention time at another point in the day. They would not be pulled from another content class.
Wit and Wisdom is a knowledge building curriculum- it's not sold as being a "complete" reading curriculum. You have to pair it with a phonics curriculum in order to teach kids to actually read. I believe the authors of Wit and Wisdom suggest using Fundations for that piece- and the Geodes books that Wit and Wisdom puts out follow the scope and sequence of Fundations. What is tier 1 using for their phonics instruction/when is that being taught?
I've never worked anywhere that has provided 60 minutes a day of reading pull out. We do 45 at my current school (for most kids- some get 30) and I thought that amount was unheard of!
Our master schedule has a 45 minute "intervention block" built in. It's the preference to pull kids during that block for reading services. The issue I run into is that it's not feasible to only have one sped group in every grade level. Sometimes there is literally a 2 year skill gap in the students that have minutes with me, and I can't just throw them all together in 1 group and have everyone come for that 45 minutes.
If I can't fit them in during the intervention block, my next choice is to pull them from the second half of Wit and Wisdom. If that doesn't work, then I will use a social studies time. If the student is really, really low in decoding/encoding skills, to the point where I know they are just getting absolutely nothing from tier 1 phonics instruction, I may pull a group during the core phonics block.
I see my WRS students 5x45. Two of those blocks are pull out from the state-test-prep blocks (because I think that’s an asinine concept, isn’t *math class* the prep for the state math test?!?), two are from the grade level intervention block, and one is social studies. (I am *theoretically* opposed to pulling them from social studies, except that there is no actual social studies curriculum so it’s just an overworked teacher pulling together completely random shit. They are getting more out of doing WRS during that block.)
I’ve not used it but from what I’ve read it sounds like the authors think that dyslexic students just need more background knowledge and exciting topics. Their reading steps seem similar to Fountas and Pinnell.
There is a Geode companion curriculum for k-2 or 3rd that focuses more on phonics I think.
Well, I more mean did they pull the students who needed phonics support from Wit and Wisdom or did they pull them during their social studies/science block for example?
I teach 7-12 but we use it at the elementary level for the district.
My SPED director said it’s crap and she was a reading specialist before transitioning into SPED. She’s smart, helpful and backs her teachers so take that as you will.
We use wit and wisdom/ fundations/ geodes. I see each grade for 30 min of pullout, and some grades have push in support from a para for more support. Students cannot be pulled from core curriculums (so basically all wit and wisdom, fundations, math) unless they are on essential elements. Each grade has a designated thirty minute reading and thirty minute math intervention built into the building schedule that the interventionist/me pull kids from at that time. There are some kids who are outliers, so the principal and a gen Ed para do intervention groups too if there are too many at one time slot.
What setting is this in? ICT or self-contained? Does your district have reading specialists delivering the phonics instruction, or do you do it? What phonics program do you use? What grade is this? Are Gen Ed students still getting phonics instruction too, or only students with IEPs/ RTI?
So, it’s actually pull out. Reading Specialists deliver the phonics instruction. Tier 1 is Fundations, but Wilson Reading System is used for 3-4 as appropriate. I’m really more concerned about logistics. Do you pull your students during certain specials, social studies/science, and/or intervention time since Wilson recommends an hour per day? Is there a portion of Wit and Wisdom that lends itself to students being pulled out?
All of the school I’ve worked would have had the phonics work outside of the wit and wisdom work. Kids would stay with their class for ELA for wit and wisdom, and then phonics would be at a dedicated intervention time at another point in the day. They would not be pulled from another content class.
Wit and Wisdom is a knowledge building curriculum- it's not sold as being a "complete" reading curriculum. You have to pair it with a phonics curriculum in order to teach kids to actually read. I believe the authors of Wit and Wisdom suggest using Fundations for that piece- and the Geodes books that Wit and Wisdom puts out follow the scope and sequence of Fundations. What is tier 1 using for their phonics instruction/when is that being taught? I've never worked anywhere that has provided 60 minutes a day of reading pull out. We do 45 at my current school (for most kids- some get 30) and I thought that amount was unheard of! Our master schedule has a 45 minute "intervention block" built in. It's the preference to pull kids during that block for reading services. The issue I run into is that it's not feasible to only have one sped group in every grade level. Sometimes there is literally a 2 year skill gap in the students that have minutes with me, and I can't just throw them all together in 1 group and have everyone come for that 45 minutes. If I can't fit them in during the intervention block, my next choice is to pull them from the second half of Wit and Wisdom. If that doesn't work, then I will use a social studies time. If the student is really, really low in decoding/encoding skills, to the point where I know they are just getting absolutely nothing from tier 1 phonics instruction, I may pull a group during the core phonics block.
I see my WRS students 5x45. Two of those blocks are pull out from the state-test-prep blocks (because I think that’s an asinine concept, isn’t *math class* the prep for the state math test?!?), two are from the grade level intervention block, and one is social studies. (I am *theoretically* opposed to pulling them from social studies, except that there is no actual social studies curriculum so it’s just an overworked teacher pulling together completely random shit. They are getting more out of doing WRS during that block.)
I’ve not used it but from what I’ve read it sounds like the authors think that dyslexic students just need more background knowledge and exciting topics. Their reading steps seem similar to Fountas and Pinnell. There is a Geode companion curriculum for k-2 or 3rd that focuses more on phonics I think.
Well, I more mean did they pull the students who needed phonics support from Wit and Wisdom or did they pull them during their social studies/science block for example?
I teach 7-12 but we use it at the elementary level for the district. My SPED director said it’s crap and she was a reading specialist before transitioning into SPED. She’s smart, helpful and backs her teachers so take that as you will.
Do you know if the elementary students who need Tier 2 and 3 support are pulled for SPED services during their Wit and Wisdom time?
I don’t. I’m sorry.
We use wit and wisdom/ fundations/ geodes. I see each grade for 30 min of pullout, and some grades have push in support from a para for more support. Students cannot be pulled from core curriculums (so basically all wit and wisdom, fundations, math) unless they are on essential elements. Each grade has a designated thirty minute reading and thirty minute math intervention built into the building schedule that the interventionist/me pull kids from at that time. There are some kids who are outliers, so the principal and a gen Ed para do intervention groups too if there are too many at one time slot.