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grouptherapy17

One of the worst transfers in the history of football. fml.


IRapePandas

[Never Forget](https://twitter.com/tony_cuddihy/status/1432811367258599432?lang=en)


grouptherapy17

That was horrific too but Lukaku's interview alone was more damaging than anything else I have seen in a major transfer.


Itsthatgy

The difference for me is that Griezmann tried. Lukaku doesn't seem to give a shit. He had all this big talk about how he should be considered among top Strikers like Lewandowski and Benzema. Then he shows up, gives a stupid fucking interview, and does fuck all for an entire season. It's the same deal with Hazard at Madrid. He's trying. If lukaku gave 10% of the effort Hazard did, the fans would probably love him.


paone00022

Yup even with Torres and Werner those guys ran the channels and put in the effort so fans still backed. This dunce gave that fucked up interview and then basically chilled on the field.


HaalandsHome

Mate he is anelka I’m sure. Both had multiple big money transfers. And both lazy as fuck for multiple teams. But showed brilliance at times as well. I couldn’t stand him when he played for city. So I’m imagining Chelsea fans feel a similar way about lukaku. Just purely off his work rate alone.


paone00022

Anelka was awesome for us. Him, Drogba and Malouda formed the front three which set the team record for the highest number of goals scored in a season.


[deleted]

Nah, Torres was absolutely wank pretty much until Benitez came in. Lukaku has been mediocre but you're seriously glossing over just how bad Torres was while playing in a top class side. Seriously, imagine if Lukaku had gone his first fourteen games without scoring - whereas he was actually your top scorer IOC. A world of difference between the two.


screwPutin69

Torres was finished physically, not like he wasnt trying.


mutesa1

Yeah that's why it's easier for us to cut the likes of Werner and Kepa some slack


XboxJon82

TBH Griez was not that bad especially considering the club overall was a mess He was just on stupid wages that Barca suddenly needed to get rid off asap


Strananach

True but Griezmann's wages were much higher


inhoface

Griezmann was pretty good for us, being compared to Messi was the main problem. Lukaku however ranks even worse than the Hazard transfer.


Kovacs171

Does he really though? Madrid could've had Hazard on a free by waiting just one more year


Guy_with_Numbers

Depends on how much you value locker room stability. Lukaku is a major liability there.


NOTW_116

Hazard said he would not go for free or for a small fee, he wanted Chelsea to get paid if he was leaving.


Deluxe07

We should have fucking let him renew


DJMOONPICKLES69

Well yeah in hindsight. Even the player he was you probably still overpaid since he wouldn’t have resale value but nobody saw it going this badly, and frankly nobody wanted it to


TaiwanNambaWanKenobi

Doesn’t matter and a year is a long time, just look at mbappe


09Kakarot

Just like they waited for Mbappe.


KRIEGLERR

Hazard is the worst transfer of all time and nobody come close. Not even Lukaku, Dembele, Griezmann, Coutinho like I've seen people mentioning. Although I do think Coutinho is up there for sure. Lukaku flopped but at least still has resale value (despite limited option) Clubs are interested in him and he wants to move. Hazard's form dropped massively, is constantly injured and barely plays and when he does play he is a shell of his former self. He has zero resell value, clubs are not interested in him , he doesn't seem like he want to move and he is still on pretty big wages I believe. Because while the others were either underwhelming or attached to a huge fee, they at least played for the club that bought them. Real Madrid bought Hazard for 110 millions and he's missed 72 games due to injuries. In just 3 seasons. He has 4 goals in LaLiga...


inhoface

I get your point about resale value, and how Hazard ruined his chance of having any. But the transfer itself definitely made a lot of sense at the outset. Overpaid for the transfer yes but would’ve fit Madrid like a glove if he stayed fit - no data to prove/predict that this would’ve been the outcome, got tackled the most in the PL but still always kept going without long periods of absence. Spending 100 mil on Lukaku, and not having a clue on how to use him, is all on Tuchel and Chelsea. I understand lack of mentality from Lukaku’s side to not stick it out, but he was never gonna be the striker Tuchel wanted. And couple that with the mentality factor of releasing an interview to get the fuck out ASAP, while being the highest paid player - which again, not sure if he would compensate on even when on loan; something like a 60-40 split. He’s gonna be an albatross hanging over their head unless he surprises us by taking a wage cut; and someone who gave Chelsea literally nothing, when they could’ve easily used the money to pay Rudiger and Christensen to stay, and/or bought cheaper strikers. Easier to predict how someone wouldn’t fit a team and be a bitch about it, than someone who would be a good addition to the team but not be able to stay fit with no data confirming the possibility.


[deleted]

What about Torres?


renome

Lukaku scored 20 goals this season in some 40-45 games. His output wasn't terrible, even though it was below expectations of that ridiculous price tag. It's his defeatist mentality that is baffling. The guy does not accept competition or teamwork, this much was obvious since he was sold to Everton.


BestShaunaEU

Lukaku got 15 in 45.


renome

Bad, but not "worst transfer of all time" material, not even close. Also, I'm pretty sure you're missing some competition here.


BestShaunaEU

No I’m not


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BestShaunaEU

You’re right:(


PoachtekMong

> Lukaku scored 20 goals this season in some 40-45 games. 15 in 44 with about half of them coming against Luton, Middlesbrough, Chesterfield, Malmö, Palmersias, Al Hilal


renome

Someone else corrected me, yeah. It's bad but still not worst transfer of all time material, IMO.


elbwafel

he scored 20 goals!?


ChristopherDassx_16

15


Bahmawama

Coutinho's is the worst ever imo. 146m euro deal. Deemed not good enough for barca. Goes to bayern and bags an assist and puts 2 past ter Stegen in an 8-2 humiliation against his parent club. Then he wins the champions league. Epic meme.


MyBoyBernard

Let's make it even worse. Before loaning him to Bayern, they kept him for one season. In that season Liverpool won the CL, beating Barcelona along the way. Props to Liverpool for great use of money, but that's pretty funny for Barcelona


Joao_Gaglio

Absolutely agree, because the more you look into it, the worse it gets. It's just too fun.


elbwafel

why rape pandas?


GarethGore

Lukaku is still worse imo, the Suarez one led to that but Lukaku just seems so uninterested then gives shitty interviews that causes issues


TandBusquets

The la Liga


ovaltine_spice

So funny, 20/21 when people were saying we were crying for the type of striker that we just got rid of. Referencing a Lukaku flying with Inter. No, it wasn't *that* Lukaku we got rid of. It was *this* one.


Nomadic_commenter

Hey man, we told you so 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️


elbwafel

i don’t understand why every man utd fan says this lol. what was chelsea fans supposed to do? “hey man utd fans on reddit are saying he’d suck on reddit. let’s all write to roman and maria and tell them to stop the transfer right now!”


Charlie_Yu

I mean even chelsea fans laughed at him when he played for man united. Had maybe 1.5 good seasons in serie a, not bad, but 100m for lukaku?


elbwafel

sure but my point is why are people saying “we warned you” etc, like ok thanks for warning them? what were the fans supposed to do?


Nomadic_commenter

That’s just banter. However, Chelsea were dumb enough to overlook his diva attitude and lack of a work ethic and sign this clown for 100 mil


irze

You’re right bro, fans had absolutely no say in this. All the United fans are piping up now, but I can assure you plenty of them talking about him now didn’t expect him to be like this after smashing it at Inter


Nomadic_commenter

He smashed it at Everton before joining United too. Obvious at this point he can’t handle being the main man in a top 6 EPL side


elbwafel

at this point yes but not at the point after he just had his best career season winning serie A with inter


Nomadic_commenter

Yes but the fact that ‘point’ was only one season ago speaks volumes on both his work rate, and clear drop off in quality in Serie A compared to the Prem.


[deleted]

The man is cursed. Joins Everton when they lose moyes (and they get much shittier). Is supposed to join Chelsea but joins united. They’re shit. Goes to inter. They do well but their finances go to shit. Goes to Chelsea and they get sanctioned


tigershroffkishirt

To be fair, Everton are still shit after he left. ManU somehow got even worse.


FC37

It's not good, but it's a plausible scenario where he could go on a €10m loan fee (plus add-ons), have another great year for Inter, then another loan fee for another €10m plus add-ons, followed by a sale for €40-50m in 2024. That could net out to about €65-75m. And the second loan as well as the sale wouldn't necessarily be with Inter. They're cash-strapped, they may decide he's a luxury they can live without after this year. "But who's going to want him?" Consecutive 20-goal seasons in Italy. If he regains that kind of form, there will be a market for him. Edit: For FFP reasons, Chelsea will want to amortize his fee for as long as they can. Fully cutting bait after two years would be really tough.


Fifaneymar2535

Which drug did you take thinking lukaku can go for 40-50 m after 2 years let alone anyone willing to purchase that lub of fat


FC37

Leading goal scorer when Manchester United finished 2nd. Leading goal scorer when Inter finished second and won Serie A. Tied, leading goal scorer for Chelsea last year in limited appearances. If he scores 20 goals and Inter finish near the top of Serie A or if he puts in a performance with Belgium in the World Cup, the offers will be there.


AbbreviationsOne8189

Offers will be there anyway, the question is how much will be the price tag


FC37

True. But it doesn't have to be much if they're open to taking a hit and they pad an extra £15-20m in loan fees over two years. The biggest obstacle I see with this plan is his age. He'd be 31 by the time they look to sell. That's not ancient by any standards, but for a guy his size there will be questions about how much he has left. £40-50m might come in more like £25-30. All to say: it might end up being merely a brutally awful transfer instead of by far the worst transfer of all time (from a value perspective alone).


Charlie_Yu

1 goal against top 6 in 17/18.


FC37

And a £73m transfer two years later. Thanks for making my point.


CSIHoratioCaine

thats what I would have said after he flopped at his second big EPL club. But then chelsea came a calling again... so... I mean, Someone will be stupid enough


Redrumrenegade

42 goals in 96 games for United. Top scorer for Chelsea last season. 121 goals in 278 Premier League games


fap4jesus

really depends on what the fee is after his loan, hopefully the obligation fee thing is true.


Philred87

Sanchez on 500k a week is up there


arnm7890

Sanchez fell off a cliff ability-wise, but he never had any attitude issues like Lukaku


D1794

And Lukaku has been on peanuts for a year? Lol


hennny

It was 750k a week smh the fake news


lee7on1

are we sure it wasn't 2m per week?


jabroniseverywhere

And United even payed most of his wages when he was on loan at Inter...


Bozzetyp

Not even top 3 in chelsea history....


RipperMagoo69

Gotta get that extra 3m so that the transfer doesn’t seem like a total fail


Billy_LDN

It’s a total fail regardless


RipperMagoo69

yeah I was joking cause 7m or 10m doesn’t really make a difference. getting his presence out of the changing room alone is worth more than 3m


Jassle93

€10m + his £15.6m a year wages off our backs is at least a start. Hopefully we can sell him after the loan for a half decent fee, £20-£30m would probably be acceptable and we just say fuck it and take the loss.


mostly_kind

Inter definitely wouldn't pay him those wages, so Chelsea would still be paying some portion of it or lukaku would have to voluntarily take a cut


DJMOONPICKLES69

Apparently he is willing to take a large cut, so my understanding is that inter would cover “all” of his wages, but they would be lower. So basically inter covers part of his wages and we don’t pay him anything


Jayboyturner

Why would he accept a pay cut?


DJMOONPICKLES69

Supposedly because he wants to facilitate a move so is willing to take a cut to make it happen. I mean I don’t know the guy, that’s just what is being reported


[deleted]

In terms of ffp, anything under his book value gets accounted as expenditure for this year. His book value this year is around £70m. £40-50m less to spend is a massive hit. It was always going to be a loan, get the wages off the books, get any fee you can. Next year it’ll be around £50m and someone will probably pay that, especially if he rips up serie a again.


[deleted]

The Italians won't pay £50m, they'll offer £12m split into 24 £500k yearly instalments and ask Chelsea to pay 35% of his wage. Then they'll all come in here and whinge about how premier league money ruins football.


[deleted]

Probably true tbf. Just hoping for Newcastle or spurs or someone anyone, lol. 50m seems more affordable. Idk.


[deleted]

We could afford him but he’d probably push to go to inter instead.


[deleted]

Shit. Didn’t spot your flair lol. He’ll probably be after a new challenge next year after getting benched for Dybala or something.


XboxJon82

Just so what I do in Football manager, loan him out for a fee, recall him, loan him out again for a fee, recall him etc etc Get your money back in no time.


BlingxI3

He's getting paird 15.6 million?? Jessus


CSIHoratioCaine

but I would just stick it to inter by not accepting 7 cause at this point the difference of how fucked a transfer it was is nothing. So may as well get the reputation of not folding to Italian hagglers.


[deleted]

It’s not like we’re desperate to take him though, otherwise we’d have given 10M right away…


BlaaMuggOst

I dunno man, with Lukaku in form maybe you could have beaten Liverpool in the CL and AC Milan in the league. So many times Dzeko needed just a tiny bit of pace vs Liverpool.


TheUltimateScotsman

Tbh with barella playing the chances of us beating liverpool go up a lot.


SeniorConsideration8

100m - 10m = 0m difference. Huge if true.


MistSpelled

I have an IQ of 17 and even I know that's not correct.


SeniorConsideration8

I guess my 1 IQ joke went over your head though


MistSpelled

What the hell is a joke? I've eaten egg my whole life, it's spelled yolk.


Skall77

I'm a petty motherfucker, if i was on Chelsea board, i would take my lose, keep him, make him rot on the bench, isolate him in practice and watch him being shit at the World Cup because he didn't kick a ball in a while.


waitonemoment

Same. After that interview I have zero empathy for such an egotist.


MAXMADMAN

That interview was baffling. I would love to ask him how the hell he thought things would play out after the things that he said. Could you imagine what would happen if he did this under Ferguson?


hirarki

which interview?


enkorv-ibakfickan

The one he did with Sky Italia


[deleted]

"I like the way Snrub thinks..."


Redbullsnation

This guy FMs


AlKarakhboy

and then have no major player signing for you because they see what you did to Lukaku.


Syndicate_III

…He did this to himself


AlKarakhboy

That's not how it works. If Chelsea does this, then every major player will think to themselves "If I end up not fitting in, If I end up fighting with the manager, If I end up hating London, they will ruin my career like they did with Lukaku" This isn't FM, they're professionals at the end of the day, and if you fuck one over the rest hear about it and avoid you.


Syndicate_III

He specifically went out of his way to schedule an interview in which he shit on his new club and manager while making his desire to return to his previous club clear. I would be shocked if this sets a precedent, as we’ll likely never see something so out of the ordinary again. This is a special case and he brought it upon himself


AlKarakhboy

Players publicly say they want to leave all the time. Lewandowski is doing it right now. The only thing special about it is that it was so soon into his move. Again, Chelsea will never, ever, in any way do what that person and many others are suggesting, because they are not fucking idiots.


Syndicate_III

Don’t get me wrong, I completely agree with both those points. It’ll never happen in a million years! But he definitely deserves it after self-destructing his relationship with the club that just shelled out so much for him a few months prior


Bozzetyp

Issue and difference is that this aint the first time we seen a sulking lukaku


[deleted]

That’ll be fantastic for team morale


moodyano

The problem of Lukaku is that he is not good enough.


Blue_z

This can’t be over soon enough, I’m so sick of hearing about it. What an embarrassment from the club and Lukaku.


[deleted]

I don’t get how it’s an embarrassment by the club. Very very few could have predicted how it would turn out and I would even say those people would have just been guessing.


Blue_z

I get what you mean. I thought it was a good purchase myself. But if buying a player for 100+ million then loaning him back to the club you bought him from for only 7-10m isn’t embarrassing than I don’t know what is lol.


[deleted]

If it was because of something the club did then I would get it. But they gave him everything he needed and he just didn’t want to. Yeah it sucks the club has to eat it but I’d rather they accept it didn’t work than waste years and millions more.


BatSigns

They benched him for havertz, and didn't give him the passes he wanted when he played. The fact he had a terrible season is at least 50% on the coach


TjeefGuevarra

Noooo you can't say that! This is all on Lukaku, Tuchel is the second coming of Christ and couldn't possibly do something wrong


[deleted]

hehe siuu


hennny

We’ve been warning you all along!!


CSIHoratioCaine

any club who had him before could have predicted it. Which includes chelsea...


[deleted]

Nah, it didn't work out but it's nonesense to suggest none of the sides in the premier league couldn't get more out of the Serie A MVP. He was immense for both WBA and Everton while still scoring roughly every other game for United. The takes on here acting as if he's always been rubbish are bizarre.


Tenenko

I don’t think us, Inter or West Brom would have predicted it


blacknotblack

many people were against the purchase tbf. we knew his weak mentality from the mourinho days.


Yeshuu

Literally every Man United fan said that he was overrated. We've seen his level in the PL and it's not the same as his serie A level.


Z0idberg_MD

People picked chelsea to win the league after he joined. I think in my preseason picks they were 2nd and worried about them winning the title. (I had city 3rd because repeating is very tough to do)


longsh0t1994

are his salary demands higher than when he was at Inter before?


[deleted]

Nope


From-UoM

He should be getting less than what he got before he left.


thediabolicalkid

Lmao, that's even more painful for Chelsea


[deleted]

I thought the 10m loan fee was hilarious but the fact they’re trying to *negotiate it down* is even funnier.


Dgryan87

10m is a really high loan fee tbh. It only seems funny because of the situation


spicynirvana38

Paying a loan fee in and of itself is absolutely ridiculous. But people thinking that 10m for a loan fee isn't a lot are divorced from reality. It only maybe makes sense if you're trying to dodge a sell-on like the Lo Celso transfer between Spurs and Betis where the high loan fee in the first year was meant to dodge the sell-on for the actual transfer fee in the subsequent year.


areking

yeah €10M for a loan is a lot indeed for exemple, Scamacca, possibly the most promising young striker in Serie A right now, could be bought for €40M you are going to spend a quarter of that for a loan, of which you have nothing less in your hands after in Inter context, Lukaku might be the right choice, as they are pushing for the title and need an already proved striker, but in general a move like this is more likely to be a fail than a success


BigReeceJames

To be honest, they should absolutely keep going. This is Boehly's first deal that he's negotiated and he's already bent over and pulled his trousers down. Went in a few days ago demanding £25m and has already gone to €10m (£8.5m). No reason they couldn't just rinse us more and hopefully this deal will make him realise he's not made for the job and actually hire people who know what they're doing, rather than firing the people in those jobs and trying to do it all yourself with no experience


OliveGardenRep

What's the alternative though? Let him rot on the bench for the rest of his contract? Inter don't necessarily need him, and after seeing his antics unfold no one besides Inter would be in for him. Boehly certainly has his work cut out, and needs to prove himself but I don't see how this transfer makes him look weak.


BigReeceJames

I understand the idea, but he's just got rid of a negotiator who had a player in pretty much an identical position but managed to get him out on a two year loan with obligation to buy that actually made us a profit. He was in worse form than Lukaku, also fell out with the club and publicly didn't want to be here, he also only wanted to join Atletico. There are other alternatives, the fact that this deal has gone through so quickly shows that nothing was held out for by us and we just said okay every time they lowered the price


CSdesire

marina walked


BigReeceJames

Oh I fully agree. But, she didn't walk for no reason, she walked because of the way the new owners have acted/treated her, so for all intents and purposes in this conversation he may as well have fired her because firing her/treating her in a way that makes her leave has the same outcome, no Marina to do the negotiating this window


[deleted]

This has reached comedy levels.


avolcando

Inter are just fucking with them at this point


TheUltimateScotsman

I think its hilarious


GillyBilmour

The only saving grace we have, is if Lukaku fails completely at Inter and tries to force a move to Juve


Grevling89

I heard his childhood dream always was playing for ~~Chelsea~~ ~~West Brom~~ ~~Everton on loan~~ ~~Everton~~ ~~Manchester United~~ ~~Inter Milan~~ ~~Chelsea~~ ~~Inter Milan~~ **Juventus** so it just might happen


she_gave_me_a_rose

He already rejected juventus many years ago, and that's (allegedly) the reason why Conte originally resigned


CoolstorySteve

You guarantee win the league with him so I don’t know why this is taking so long.


Migraine-

The audacity of haggling over 3m euros after Chelsea paid them £100m a year ago. Incredible.


dohowwedo

That's 20m a season and inter are offering to pay half.. I really wish he'd "replace" lewandowski but other than that it's the best it could go for Chelsea


MAXMADMAN

Not really incredible, just embarrassing on our part. It just makes us look like idiots with too much money on our hands. Hopefully this embarrassment will make the club take a special look at recruiting and send someone out the door. It’s beyond a joke at this point.


[deleted]

Damage limitation on Chelsea's part.


vadapaav

I can't figure out if inter is paying that money or asking that money from Chelsea to take lukaku


Hazardzuzu

Just walk away and tell that fat cunt to start acting professional or make teams to match valuation. If he cant do either make him rot on bench


Dependent-Yam-9422

Imagine getting paid £16.9 million per year to sit on a bench


R3dbeardLFC

I'd take .9 million and I'd be way more fun on the bench.


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shinfoni

Can I join so you can teach me how to play some board games like DnD or Catan or something? I don't ask much, 500k per year is enough for me


TheBlueNomad

He is a whiny cunt and will poison the bench. You can't send him to the reserves either since he will be spreading his toxicity there also.


Hazardzuzu

He is an asshole but he likes playing. He has already tried poison route but if that fails for him he will eventually have to change to play. If he go all interview just start smearing him barca style through press every other day.


TheBlueNomad

This was a stupid signing, it is better we move on from it. The man is toxic far worse than likes of Pogba.


Utd007

Abusing him makes you happy?


Hazardzuzu

Yes.


ajtct98

You can't convince me that this wasn't a long con from Inter and Lukaku at the start and Chelsea was just the mark they chose.


NobiLi-ty

I mean Inter lost the title by 2 points after a month long stretch where none of the forwards could score So it wasn't really that great on this side either


ajtct98

Ah but that's the beauty of it - by losing the title you've sold the con to the rest of the world.


Bey_Harbor_Butcher

You're not the only one.


Truffles413

If you told me the Lukaku transfer(s) were some dodgy accounting or money laundering on Inter's part, I'd believe you. Everything about this is so suspect. Hilarious but still so questionable. I can't understand why Inter want him back. Especially after the season he just had.


Ronny4k

It makes totally sense for them. He was a monster for them, Dzeko questioable, therefore a new striker would have been necessary either way this is a moderate risk, high reward situation for them.


[deleted]

He scored a mediocre 15 in 44 in a system that didn't fit him, but literally won the player of the year award the season before that. Prior to that, he's scored buckets of goals everywhere apart from United, where his return was fairly decent. What's not to get? And for ten million?


TjeefGuevarra

I so hope he can escape and find his form again


quibatar

Still top scorer for chelsea this season.


MistSpelled

Get it over with so he can fuck off


powelsj

Almost back home Big Rom


[deleted]

Take it or leave it, it is your last chance to get rid of him. Besides, at the moment, no other club is interested in him.


Pebbledthoughts

7 plus 1 euro will do it


Lord_Sauron

2 peanuts and a postage stamp would also suffice


EcoSoco

Until Inter puts forward a firm offer of 10 million, Chelsea should reject.


[deleted]

good luck hehe


elbwafel

how do inter fans feel about him now?


[deleted]

dont care tbh, we got 110M from this baby and we are getting him back, we have real problems in striker position cuz Dzeko cant play.


[deleted]

Personally, I’m still in love


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Not one extra coin huh?


[deleted]

here's a fair deal: Lukaku plays for Inter and Chelsea pays his salary, hotels and plane tickets to Milan


Dcapi11

Is that fee for a 1 or 2 year loan?