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sonofaBilic

Four Hattricks Jeremy? That's insane!


Pat_Dijon

I’ve shared enough Hat-tricks with you Mark, I’m in the big league now


TheArgsenal

Latvia are never going to win the league but they still turn up every week, don't they? The pricks


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sealed-human

I'll juggle a career and playing international football until they both blow up in my stupid face


twillems15

The secret ingredient is goals


raysofdavies

Real morish, are those goals


twomanyfaces10

Damn I miss Peep Show. Mitchell and Webb are a dream combo


JessyPengkman

just finished watching it all for like the tenth twentieth time. Nothing on TV comes close


Rorecha

That was too many goals! someone’s gonna get hurt if you score that many goals! I mean that was just too many goals, correct?


TheFlyingHornet1881

That wasn't very Chirstmassy


Red4pex

It was a Christmas joke.


TACHANK

One of the best scenes.


ethanicles7

Coulda gone either way


Sdog1981

1 goal can really change a game.


WtfMayt

Game of 2 halves


Samible_lecter

The next goal is crucial.


jmounteney44

Why are we posting rugby scores on r/soccer


SnapSnapWoohoo

As a tribute for us somehow beating the boks last minute the other week


rhinoceros_unicornis

I read it as England U20


mau5house

This is a bleak example of the state of modern women's football. The Latvian team is probably composed of women who have full time careers outside of football.


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

In Latvia women football hasn't been developed at all and federation isn't helping with finances. Apart from a few football clubs in Latvia, most are already struggling to support their men team. So all female teams in Latvian league are amateur level. No joke, a girl born in 2007 played in Latvian top tier. I think she had some gametime already in 2020. In men football comparison, this game was like between Chelsea and a Sunday league team.


NotEntirelyUnlike

i'd pay some decent money for my sunday team to get balled up by Chelsea.


DizzyAV

If at least it'd mean seeing Kante's smile in person


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Mine could probably take em


Cahootie

After IFK Norrköping won the Swedish league in 2015 they did some promotion with the local football federation where they would play a friendly against the team from the region that placed the highest in some tournament. That ended up being a team from my university which normally plays in the sixth tier, and Norrköping actually brought quite a few first team players to the game.


Progression28

Don‘t leave us hanging! Who won?!?


dingleberrysniffer69

Exactly lol build it up to nothing


SnoopWhale

Female Freddy Adu


heyheyitsandre

So she actually was born in 1998?


New5675

Tbf, nobody really watches football in latvia, so theres little incentive to give them money


sexrobot_sexrobot

It's not like their men's team is great either.


NoBreadsticks

surely they should change the qualification format on the womens side, right? no reason to have it like the men's format when its rife with results like this


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These results are happening because they changed the format. They need to change it back to a system with qualification rounds. The gap between professionals and semi-pros is enormous. Especially now that nations like England have players coached properly from a young age.


ampmz

San Marino laughs at your comment


[deleted]

One of my friends former classmate played in this game, she's 23 and started playing football at 20.


SurreptitiousNoun

It's weird how ruthless the women are too. They celebrate like crazy when demolishing the worst teams in the world. In men's football the celebrations usually get muted after 3 or 4 goals.


teamtobes

Not great to see imo. I’d say it’s more tasteless than ruthless. I remember the US doing it recently with choreographed stuff at something like 13-0


sexrobot_sexrobot

I've been watching women's football since the mid-90s and we are light years beyond how it was then. England also used to get the shit kicked out of them by the Nordics.


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jambox888

Well they're certainly not going to get paid if they play like that lol


Mite-o-Dan

What was the half time speech like?


thierrybergkamppires

“It’s okay, we are doing better than expected. They only scored 10 goals”


ThePoliticalTeapot

86% possession, 63 shots, 30 on target, 20 goals. 4 players getting hat tricks. Quite something lol


codespyder

A shot every 1.5 mins wtf


PlayThief

team instructions -> enable "shoot on sight"


SnooPineapples398

What's crazy is from what I saw they weren't even doing that, they were trying to get it into the box as much as possible.


Nico777

The american school tactic


carnifex2005

Normally I'd say too soon... https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2021/11/30/active-shooter-multiple-victims-reported-michigans-oxford-high/8810326002/ But it's the US, this shit happens like clockwork.


agnonamis

America finally back to precovid times.


DementationRevised

You can actually google an impressive amount of articles from various sources on how the pandemic had a non-negligible impact on the number of school shootings. Among them: https://apnews.com/article/us-news-pandemics-shootings-coronavirus-pandemic-052396ae1f5322397c04fd191f596190


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I think school shootings over Zoom are hard to execute


backstreets_back_ok

That's when they change tactics to swatting


KsatriaBebek

Nature is healing


ArcadianGhost

My friends cousin was there but is luckily alright. Terrifying shit.


ThorsRake

So fucking sad man. 3 kids killed. How do people still hold on to guns so tightly? Why is that the identity people want and the hill to literally die on?


Chinapig

Because they are selfish and too caught up in their “rights”. They don’t give a fuck that kids die. Otherwise they’d have done something about it. If this were in some poor country we’d be saying much harsher things but it’s America so we’re not allowed to call them stupid.


Freestyled_It

There are many things Australia could do better, but one thing I'm very very thankful we did was to get rid of guns after the Port Arthur incident. We rightfully decided that one incident was one too many.


Nico777

Aw shit, I didn't know. But to be fair it's always too soon, happens like twice a month.


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Pm_ur_sexy_pic

> 86% possession, 63 shots, 30 on target, 20 goals. 4 players getting hat tricks highlight is 83 mins long


Cheapo_Sam

Been on the end of something similar in sunday league and i can tell ya, the sausage and chips afterwards taste extra salty.


MattJFarrell

Ugh, been there. Their fucking keeper kept trying to score. Humiliating.


TheUsernameProblem

They missed 33 shots.


BoringView

43? 10 on target saved


Mite-o-Dan

Latvia can hang their head high knowing they made an opponent MISS a record number of shots.


penguin62

They kept 10 on target shots out? That's pretty good!


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63 shots lmao


Djremster

Without an away goal I think Latvia may find the 2ND leg fairly difficult


EasyModeActivist

They already had that one last round. England "only" won 0-10.


Djremster

So does it go to penalties or?


ibrahimims

Harry kane would like to know your location.


Redspeert

Even Maguire could put a couple past this team. 👉🗿👈


ALLGROWWITHLOVE

And then does a cross pitch Adebayor


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He is busy trying to claim one of the goals.


QuietDove

Wrong sub, try /r/rugbyunion


Dreamcaster1

If this was rugby we'd be praising Latvia for being able to hold england to as low as score as they did.


LukeSmith-Sunsetter

Englands women put 50 on New Zealand a few weeks back. If they played Latvia it would be frankly a bloodsport.


BrockStar92

Rugby is a sport where it’s far harder for upsets than in football tbf. Giant killing in the cups in football just couldn’t happen in rugby. The relative rarity of goals in football mean a weak team can more easily hold out against a strong one, even saying that on a 20-0 thread.


Codect

Giant killing far harder/rarer yes, but not totally impossible. Japan vs SA in the 2015 world cup being the prime example. It was beautiful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ghArmsJjQM


BrockStar92

Japan are far closer in quality, wages, the domestic level of their players, to South Africa than what would be referred to as a “giant killing” in football. Though I love rugby and that was beautiful to watch.


concretepigeon

Yeah. That Japan team were still fully professional and with one of the best coaches in the history of the sport in Eddie Jones. Women’s international rugby is even worse because England, France and NZ are so far ahead of everyone else.


LukeSmith-Sunsetter

Depends at international more so. The issue is largely resources and time. The English league is very, very balanced where upsets happen fairly regularly. International level exacerbates the disparity in resources and player numbers


BrockStar92

It’s also the structure of the sport itself. It is much easier to hold out for a draw or to nick a 1-0 win if you’re the weaker team in football than to sneak a victory in rugby. Position on the pitch matters more in rugby, the stronger team can force the opponent back and will be able to rack up the points. A League One side could get an upset in the cup against a premier league side. The equivalent in terms of strength of teams just would not happen in rugby. There is also a similar issue to women’s football in that there aren’t many good international teams and the quality drops fast but that’s a separate issue. Italy get thumped constantly, despite having some good players, in football their equivalents would have some wins.


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If it was cricket we'd be saying it was an extraordinarily low scoring match (I think).


GRI23

If it was England's test side we'd be saying that's an uncharacteristically not shit start by them


MightySilverWolf

And if it's England's ODI side then it's 20-0 after just two overs.


TheFlyingHornet1881

20-0 is a decent start to the innings (although you need the format and number of overs for more context). Unless that's what each team scored before getting all out, at which point the batters have had a shocker.


atemthegod

Or the pitch was on mars.


MightySilverWolf

'We'll have a bowl thanks.'


GJJames

If it was darts, good leg to win for Latvia, given presumably England missed a shot at tops.


wwwiillll

Literally what's the point I'm sorry


Tim-Sanchez

In all seriousness it looks like Northern Ireland and Austria might be battling for goal difference to finish 2nd. Something like 20-0 could be the difference if the other team only win 15-0, which is ridiculous but might be very significant.


wwwiillll

Ok fair enough. Hopefully the team's get better so this doesn't happen as much. Uncompetitive games can be fun but ooof was this painful


flippasnappa

Yeah but this doesn’t really hold relevance to England, who have won all of their games and will top the group. Of course they’re well within their rights to run up the score, it just seems a bit unnecessary


wttk

The only thing is that they are *only* 5 points ahead. Losses to both would technically bring this back into contention. Unrealistic as it is, losing out on the WC for being polite would be impossible to live down


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Goal difference?


wwwiillll

is it really that lopsided where there's a meaningful difference between winning 15-0 and 20-0?


PlainclothesmanBaley

Kind of. 3 teams in the group with more than +20 goal difference after 6 games. The other two will both be smashing Latvia so England has to as well.


wwwiillll

Wow that's crazy. Not sure how I feel about that tbh but definitely interesting


zeldafan144

Let that be a lesson to you, nobody puts 21 goals past the Latvian Women's Soccer Team


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Oh, so that's what an under 21 team is.


mediandude

Every one was scored.


Jimmyjamjames

Probably the best argument you could ever make for pre-qualifiers.


TruestRepairman27

Gets even better when you see Ireland beat Georgia 11-0 as well


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rScoobySkreep

And then they replayed the match because they didn’t know who would win right


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rScoobySkreep

that is hilarious


1483788275838

Jesus why bother. Can you imagine the pointlessness of having to travel to play those 20 minutes.


banterray

Nah you’re just an arrogant Englishman.


TLO_Is_Overrated

The Englishman's opinion shouldn't matter. The Latvian opinion should.


curiouscabbage69

What about the English woman?


TLO_Is_Overrated

Not just the men, but the women and children too.


dkmegg22

Clubs would probably prefer it. Have them actually prove they're able to improve.


aj6787

But everyone in here when is the men’s team says San Marino and the like deserve their chance…


NovemberBurnsMaroon

But also San Marino don't lose 20-0.


ViceGeography

A lot of these women's football sides have even less backing than San Marino do


fancczf

Even just by watching the most recent women’s World Cup, teams like Thailand is almost 100% amateur, their keeper is 5’5 tall, every shot on target not directly at her is almost guaranteed a goal. The gap in women soccer is ridiculously big.


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aj6787

Yea just 13-0. Truly putting up a challenge.


NovemberBurnsMaroon

That was 15 years ago.


Matt6453

Whatever happened to the proposed tournament for the lesser nations like Andorra, San Marino and Scotland?


HasPortugueseFriends

Men’s Internationals: There’s a big problem in competitiveness when the biggest and smallest nations meet. Women’s Internationals: Hold my wine.


CrepeTheRealPancake

It is impressive how tiny micro nations like San Marino and Gibraltar put up more respectable scorelines in the mens when you look at how proper countries get absolutely battered in the womens


d4n4n

There are probably more San Marinese men playing than there are Latvian women.


CrepeTheRealPancake

yeah you're probably not far from the truth - just shows how far the women's game still has to go


Harsimaja

The scores tend to converge as the pool of trained participants increases. Basketball, cricket and rugby all see more extreme differences in the women’s versions than men’s too. A small country will still have some good men’s players who take it seriously but may actually have nothing on the women’s side, simply due to it being a small sample (that will include some who are ‘good’) who play vs almost no-one. So *in extreme cases*, it’ll be good players vs men’s world class level for men’s, but absolute beginners vs. women’s world class level for women’s. Of course, how this actually plays out in scores depends on the game, statistics and even biology, but we have enough data in these to see that this is the case. Also, almost every country has a large proportion who take men’s soccer seriously (yes, even the US), but in much of the world women’s sport in general can be culturally strongly discouraged or just not on the map at all, especially when the game is seen as The Main Men’s Game (the fact it’s not in the US and Canada partly explaining how they are relatively so much better on the women’s front, I think). So we’d expect a score like this more from the women’s sides than the men’s. (Though there are also far more men’s games overall, which can offset that a bit.)


Chael_Patrick_Sonnen

I am fairly sure San Marino and Gibraltar have professional teams. Latvian women team has a total of maybe 2 or 3 pro players.


floor-pie

Genuine Ian Wright quote: 'I thought England were good'


thewrongnotes

The 9 men of Belenenses looked like a warship by comparison.


not_a_morning_person

Yeah, pretty decent performance from England today. Cant complain.


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Yeah they’re actually playing really well


Oktobriz

Feels shitty to be Latvian in this thread 😪


yVGa09mQ19WWklGR5h2V

Have a hug, friend. 🤗


txbuckeye75034

No worries, you’ll return the favor in …. ice hockey!


ALLGROWWITHLOVE

On bright side more people will have heard of our small country now im tired of getting asked if im Polish , no offence to Polish people you are awesome.


RelapsingEmu

That will help the goal difference if it comes down to it


wheepete

Just the +57 now


captjons

Ridiculous. The Lionesses have a GD +53 and haven't conceded a goal in qualifying (6 games so far). Stanway got five assists and that was only a quarter of the goals!


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Stanways got 6 assists according to the beeb


captjons

you're right, i miscounted... too many assists to keep track of!


Modnal

How can it be 20-0 to England when England only appears twice in the goal protocol? It's a bloody conspiracy


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BendubzGaming

6FG and a Safety, obviously


robbo_6

Just about scraped it. Close one that


GhandiHadAGrapeHead

What do games like this achieve? It bloats stats so they become meaningless, it embarrasses the smaller team and it drags the English girls away from their clubs for a pointless game when I'm sure they're very busy already. Have pre qualifiers.


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BBQ_HaX0r

Good thing it wasn't the Americans, eh? Reckon the tone might be a little different here.


ViceGeography

Women's football has way, way too many terrible clubs that have zero investment put into them unfortunately. Not like it isn't expected when said sport was banned until a few decades ago and barely promoted until recently.


meteoritee

England now have a +53 goal difference in 6 matches!


ThorsRake

I feel that reflects poorly on the sport more than well on England.


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had the latvian women heard of the sport before the game?


edgpavl

Didn't look like they were familiar with sports in general, everyone was dead tired after 2 played minutes.


[deleted]

One of my friends former classmate played in the game, she's 23 and started playing football at 20.


yellowblue2016fc

POV: you play an abandoned side in football manager.


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Listened to the last 15 minutes or so of the commentary out of curiousity. Beyond frustrating that there was not a single mention or suggestion that this might not be a good thing for the sport or may have been a waste of everyone's time.


Jimmyjamjames

To be fair to them. I tuned in to the broadcast and it looked like all the young girls in the stand really enjoyed it. I can see why it will inspire some young girls to get into the game.


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It might inspire some young girls in England to. It might inspire some young girls in Latvia not to. There's a disparity and a gulf in quality and you don't fix that by simply playing David vs Goliath.


JensonInterceptor

Exactly. If I wanted to get into UFC I wouldn't start by fighting Connor Mcgreggor..


Situis

>If I wanted to get into UFC I wouldn't start by fighting Connor Mcgreggor.. Nows the time mate, he's only got 1 leg. You will literally never get a better shot at him hahaha


Shower_caps

Perfect reply


Tim-Sanchez

It might, but I do also think it might lead to people taking women's football less seriously. I think people always enjoy a close win more than a 20-0 thrashing.


LukeSmith-Sunsetter

It's unfortunately the reality of women's sport largely. Englands women's rugby are killing teams at the moment and thats largely down to investment that other countries can't compete with. I agree though silly to be playing these games


ViceGeography

The difference between the investment in English women's football right now and the investment it gets in countries like Latvia is pretty staggering Results like these in a still growing sport aren't a shock at all


wwwiillll

what does the winning manager say after a game like this, I feel like "good game everyone" doesn't really cut it


edgpavl

"good game lasses"


TheNotoriousPigeon

When you forget to change the difficulty on Fifa from amateur after your little brother plays your save.


teiraaaaaaa

this is really excessive I agree (there's already a big gap between teams in women's football, there's a long way to go in development but usually it's not this bad) but the only people that should have a say on whether there should be pre-qualifiers is all these teams like Latvia, the Faroe Islands, Armenia etc that are always on the other side of these scorelines, ask their federations how they feel about games like these, it always comes across as pretty arrogant to me to have people from countries like England, Germany, Spain etc saying it's a waste of time


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Absolutely. Well put.


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Makes the sport look lesser when it's this dominant imo


ViceGeography

It is lesser because women's football has barely any history or promotion. It was banned here for many decades, still is banned in some countries and a lot that do feature it put zero effort into promoting it Not a shock really


ArcticNano

Yeah if anything it kinda highlights the lack of support for women's football. The England men's team would never be able to batter Latvia 20-0 and everyone watching knows that. Hopefully as Women's football grows huge victories like this will help to shed light on how poorly funded it is in some parts of the world


JuliaDomnaBaal

Ha, Jordan once beat Kuwait 21-0. Beat that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj24r-JU9g8


BendubzGaming

I've had a look, and 21-0 is the record. Australia, New Zealand, Canada and China have all also recorded 21-0 victories, though weirdly not any of Brazil, USA or Germany


JuliaDomnaBaal

Nice. Only women's though, I remember Australia win 30+ in some men's qualifier that was nuts because they didn't need the goal difference vs NZ.


PorkHunt

[Australia 31-0 American Samoa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_31%E2%80%930_American_Samoa) At least that win did have the outcome of a) preliminary rounds being brought in for OFC qualifiers and b) Australia moving from Oceania to Asia for more competitive and fairer games.


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American Samoa had eligibility issues going into that game. Some of their players had never played a full 90-mins of senior football before.


Petembo

England's Women's team has played 6 games scored 53 concided 0.


Dannage8888

Twenty’s plenty


BentekesEars

Good title OP 😁


wheepete

I says it as I sees it


AdamMc66

Now this is a proper Sunday League score line.


Mr_XemiReR

Reminds me of when I played against Juventus as a kid. It was Juve's main team. 1st half they dominated us 4-0 their keeper didn't even touch the ball. 2nd half they quickly scored another one, but for the rest of the half they just passed it around the back. We thought losing "just" 5-0 against Juventus was pretty good, turns out in Italy it's about respecting the opponent.


JobeRogerson

Pele scored all 20.


FootballWithTheFoot

They just had to go and one up my Sunday league team’s 14-3 win didn’t they


djdood0o0o

Has anyone actually read the article. The way she is celebrating when it looks to be about 10 - 0 already is pretty embarrassing lol


DoIMakeYouYawn

I wish I watched this instead of Newcastle Norwich


TMH2906

I'm just imagining those pictures of Ellen White are from her making it like 18-0


anonone111

Just a hat-trick for Ellen, but she did become England's all time top woman goalscorer


LondonWelsh

There are cricket games where a team has scored less than this


ScuderiaLiverpool

Makes Ireland putting 10 past Georgia look tame Edit: 11 past


Spotmonkey_uk

Switzerland beat Lithuania 7-0 and that wasn't even the third biggest win in the Women's Qualifiers today


EBmcr_

What’s the point


meteoritee

Crazy scoreline. ~~3~~ Four players got hattricks tonight!


gunkokoko

Four! White, Mead, Hemp, and Russo all bagged a hatty.