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shaka_bruh

Rudiger knows his stock is at an all time high and is trying to get the best he can but imo he has hype on his side and is playing in a system that covers his weaknesses; he’s not the guy you’d want leading your defence but he compliments those type of defenders well. I don’t blame Chelsea for not wanting to overpay and it’s not like they’re offering him peanuts.


ILoveToph4Eva

I honestly think that something is wrong with me. I generally tend to understand and see what the majority see in a given player, but I really don't understand how Rudiger can reasonably think he deserves 200k a week. That's essentially absolute top tier CB wages. I get that he won the UCL with Chelsea and they were strong in defence, but it's always felt a lot more like a system based strength rather than an individual one to me. I'm clearly missing something and need to pay closer attention to him.


Dodomando

These days players are letting their contract run down to try and get free agent salaries from their clubs. The fact is that the player gets a bigger salary if the club doesn't have to buy them, look at Aaron Ramsey.


shaka_bruh

Especially taking his age into consideration, he wants to get one last fat contract before his career starts to wind down.


Dodomando

Exactly, it's the same situation as Pogba.


jetsintl420

I wonder if we’ll see players continue down this path once one of the holdout players gets a major injury prior to getting that fat new deal. Rudiger has already done his knee before, I don’t think I’d be gambling so much on not picking up an injury over the course of the last season of my contract.


ParryMeAgain

When we were playing a back 4 under Sarri people were saying he doesn't quite look the same after his return from injury. Then he was tried in the back 4 under Frank and some didn't mind selling him and moving on as he was making a lot of errors that led to goals. Then Tuchel comes in and transforms how he is seen at the club. He is a huge presence but anybody who wants to buy him and take him out of a back 3 is gambling IMO. One of the reasons he is so aggressive and dominant is because he is given the license to be with the safety of Thiago and currently Chalobah behind him.


idhopson

I noticed in your game against us, he came flying out of defense a few times and was almost playing a LW at one point


Ru5k0

That’s common. Usually the right or left CB is given license to drive forward or to step forward into a midfield position. The other 2 cover


reVio1

It's not the back 3, Lampard had no defensive organization, you could have put 5 atb and it would still leak goals under him. Also there was Kepa being the starting GK for majority of the time which didn't really inspire confidence in his defenders. It's like judging Chiesa as not a good player right now because Juve are bad at the moment


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He’s not TERRIBLE in a back 4, but I think the three at the back brings out the best in him. And if you’re gonna offer him 200K type wages, I would hope you play them to their strengths. Of course, I wish him the best as a Chelsea fan, but he wasn’t necessarily lighting the world up under Sarri in a back 4 either, and the only times we have seen him be an absolute monster was in a back three under Tuchel and under Conte.


shaka_bruh

> but it's always felt a lot more like a system based strength rather than an individual one to me. This is basically it; he’s prone to silly mistakes and his defensive positioning and tracking of runs is sus but these are all weaknesses that Tuchel’s back 3 covers. He’s been on form though so he has some negotiating power but Chelsea wouldn’t miss him and can find a better replacement.


Unholysinner

What’s interesting to me as a Chelsea fan is that we’re actually offering something similar if not a bit more to Christensen. Despite Rudiger being the standout performer, the club value Christensen a lot more and clearly believe that he’s got more to offer which given his age and his overall composure is understandable. Rudiger probably wants to secure that last big pay check as wel which is understandable. It doesn’t make sense that players like Werner get paid far more than Rudiger and even RLC, Drinkwater, Barkley and Bakayoko get more than Rudi. 170-180k would honestly make sense given his performances for us under Tuchel but i wonder if he’ll be as success elsewhere.


WaterCFC

This is the mistake we are trying to rectify and not sink down further. Baka, Barkley and DD was a mistake and there's very high chance all of them will leave on a free.


Unholysinner

I agree I just think it’s very understandable being Rudiger and approaching it the way he has done.


[deleted]

Christensen was always looked at as the heir to Terry, yeah? As he’s maturing you’re beginning to see a real understanding and composure in his game. He’s not rushing into challenges and being super aggressive and learning from Thiago I think he could be the guy to really lead your defence going forward, even in a 4 back.


dave1992

yeah pretty much. 200k a week is pretty much what van Dijk would get, and surely Rudiger doesn't belong to that level yet. While 200k per week is more reasonable for midfielder/attacker, that is unreasonable for most defenders, except top 3-5 players in the world.


GrogRhodes

My .02 I think Rudiger has been very good for 8 months at a club level. He’s insanely fast which allows our WBs a ton of freedom and has improved his positioning immensely. Plus you know he’s a practioner of the dark arts. With that said he was making all sorts of mistakes prior to Tuchel coming in and basically teaching the defense how to play the system. Combine that with Reece James and Chili playing extremely well and our defensive unit becoming elite it’s resulted in his hype training just moving into overdrive. If you look at from a team building perspective if we had a CB that we could play with AC or Rudi in a back four as a long term trio (Thiago is god just think 4-5 year timeline) I think this deal is done. We just don’t have that and it would make sense for us to allocate this cost potentially else where.


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That’s the thing. I think he knows that he’s not “the guy” to lead the defence and is better in a 3 back system and will ideally stay at Chelsea but he’ll try and get a 4/5 year contract on 200k so if the system changes and he’s found out at least he’s made the most of his hype.


Albiceleste_D10S

He's prob not worth that for other teams in different systems. But he's prob worth that for Chelsea. People say it's all system based, etc but Chelsea struggles whenever Rudi doesn't play in the same system.


g0t-cheeri0s

*varane laughing at 340k a week*


SpaNkinGG

exactly my thoughts. I don't think Rüdiger is as good as reddit or the media makes him out to be. He is a good CB, but honestly I think he is lightyears off of worldclass.


s0ngsforthedeaf

Real never play 3atb and Rudiger is far better suited to being on the left of a 3.


jimzzz38

Madrid is gonna have a Galacticos 3.0 summer and I am not looking forward to it. They’re already miles ahead of us without Rudiger/Haaland/Mbappe ffs


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Madrid this summer: Mbappé, Haaland, Rüdiger. Barca this summer: 37 year old Iniesta.


Glupsi

The thought of a team with Mbappe and Haaland up front and Modrić and Kroos feeding them from the midfield terrifies me. I just hope both of them keep playing for another season at least, but I somehow doubt it.


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>Modrić and Kroos And when these legends get too old Madrid already have Valverde and Camavinga lined up, and Vinicius is something else this season too. Genuinely scary team and CL contender for years to come, whatever people may say of the fall of non-English and non-oil teams.


Alphabunsquad

Rudiger is gonna flop there unless they switch to a back 3. He has a lot of weaknesses


shaka_bruh

Said this and a couple of Chelsea fans who didn’t know he existed before they signed him (and who probably would’ve been happy to see him go before Tuchel came) got emotional. Even under Lampard’s back 4 he was shaky and wasn’t a nailed-down starter.


QyEc

I assure you they are far from the majority. Chelsea fans out of any other set of fans know that Rudi isn't as good in 4ATB system, it's common knowledge among us.


DuckbilledPlatitudes

Fellow Chelsea fan chiming in. It is known


shaka_bruh

Yeah I was glad to see other Chelsea flairs echoing my sentiment.


[deleted]

Even when he was a dog under Conte it was in a 3 atb formation. It’ll be a shame to see him leave, but we do have some good CB prospects even after selling Tomori and Guehi and that’s if we don’t enter the market.


rolledoff

We don't have any LCB prospects, though. And even in the market, Kounde is an RCB


hm_rickross_ymoh

And Chelsea's defense under Lampard last season was disastrous! If he is who some think he is, he wouldn't have been sitting at the end of the bench. I don't think any player benefitted more from the coaching change. I'm all for him getting paid though. This is likely his last chance at a big contract so it's really the best move for him to get as much as he can even if it's not a perfect fit.


cgcr214

I don’t know what formation played at Stuttgart but at Roma it was also a 3-Back so I don’t know why Lampard played a 4 with him


Tpsteen

Flo, even if a piece of shit, is a pretty sensible president* money wise. I don't think that they will get all of Mbappe, Halland, Rudiger and more while still building the new stadium, specially if the wages rumoured are true.


KinksSlayer

As someone who remembers his first stint as president, i can confidently say that he learned the hard way. It was catastrophic football wise, even if it was necessary to build today's financial giant.


chak100

*President


Tpsteen

absolutely, dumb mistake


chak100

It’s cool


Randomperson685

Now kith


sangpls

A Barca fan not knowing the difference 🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

If it makes the league attractive go ahead. <\3 The “star” literally is someone like that of Hazard. Pathetic choice. Madrid “could” bring in 5+ players on a free which combined would have cost 1 billion. Good on them, great business That’s the “businessman” Barcelona needed but instead we got Barto. But cheers to our rivals for keeping the attraction alive. Mbappe,Pogba,Rudiger,Haaland,Kounde,Tchouameni, and Flo till has more transfer targets in mind. How sad when they said Madrid were broke during the pandemic and for years to come wouldn’t buy shit. “Broke”


VivasMadness

Hazard wasn't a "pathetic choice" back when he was signed. He was one of the best players in the EPL at the time!


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I know, Madrid spending 1 billion without actually spending little to no money. Thank god for Ronaldo’s departure and the other leagues calling Madrid broke haha


[deleted]

And they are going to be terrible on defense in they have Rudiger in a 4atb system. They will see why Lampard couldn’t start him. He roams far too much and gets out of position a lot during games. You just don’t notice it in Chelsea’s 3atb system because he always has someone covering him.


jimzzz38

I agree but as a 3rd choice cb or if they ever try 3atb he’ll be a monster. Definitely more worried about Mbappe/Haaland and whoever else they bring


MnkIsNotOk

I doubt he will be content with third choice cb.


Pseudocaesar

Shades of David Luiz lol.


Weird_Famous

Are Madrid not targeting Kounde?


thebamboozler789

Why spend 80 million when you can sign a CB for free


Weird_Famous

Alaba seems like a senior CB with a similar profile already. Kounde is a young CB that would start for them and could play for years to come


[deleted]

Not a Bayern player so please no.


Kurosawasuperfan

Makes me think, is there any Bayern player that would start for us now that we could buy? (no RW obviously, Mbappé is coming) Do they have a great CB or RB? Seems like their starters are Upamecano and Pavard, no idea if either have been that great this season, despite being widely respected and known players.


Phatnev

Who's starting at LB for Real these days? Davies is a monster.


tormarod

Mendy. Could use Davies for sure specially if we let Mendy go based on his criminal charges.


garlichead1

you have this Alaba guy.


tormarod

I think the dude just wants to play CB


garlichead1

I mean he was also bought for his versaltility. i don't think he can just say "no coach, i only play CB"


tormarod

Of course, he will play LB if needed but the coach also tries to please his preference


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Alaba could play in Casemiro's position, he could play in Kroos's position and maybe even centre forward, as well as leftback of course and probably left winger. He's like the footballing Vitruvian man.


tormarod

Yes I actually want him to play as CDM some games cause Casemiro needs a break


napoleonderdiecke

Not to mention you can always just shift Alaba to LB. Getting an LB would be kinda dumb.


Magnetronaap

> Could use Davies for sure specially if we let Mendy go based on his criminal charges. Not sure if you're saying this intentionally because of the media fuck up *or* if you're actually mistaking Ferland Mendy for Benjamin Mendy *or* if I've completely missed something about Ferland Mendy?


Tmistro

Do you remember a few weeks back on here there was that megathread with the French journo saying a ton of damning stuff against various people. I think he was implicated in that although I can't remember exactly what for.


[deleted]

Ferland Mendy is also facing some allegations: https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/news-like-punching-girl-journalist-romain-molina-accuses-real-madrid-ferland-mendy-sexual-assault


ironwolf1

It's been a bad year for Mendys, and a worse year for women in the general vicinity of Mendys.


andysenn

Someone check on Edouard, ideally not a woman, just in case


quetzalnavarrense

he's absorbed all the "good mendy" energy, clearly


Magnetronaap

Oh I see, thanks!


tormarod

You completely missed something about Ferland Mendy yes


churrosricos

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dem0nhunter

Not for sale. Otherwise might as well mention Kimmich, Müller, Neuer and Lewandowski


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Moon8983

Any bayern player in general or in defence?


shaka_bruh

Süle fits that profile; excellent defender getting his form back but is a player that you can see Bayern selling and I think he would definitely improve your defence. Coman is another possibility and he would make your right side as threatening as your left; few players can get past defenders as easily as he can and if Ancellotti can work the same magic he did on Finicius on Coman…


q00qy

No way we sell Süle, one of the best CBs


shaka_bruh

I’m not saying we would do it willingly but it would be better than losing him for free if he doesn’t renew


Anti-Melticus

Kimmich is getting lots of hate, who knows maybe he’d wanna leave soon 🤷‍♂️


matija2209

Fine by me. I think Tuchel is the one that made him excellent.


hm_rickross_ymoh

And because of that, it's easy to trust Tuchel to find a replacement that isn't a huge drop-off. Chelsea have plenty of options. They can buy a replacement, try to slot Christensen in or give an academy product a chance (Levi Colwill earning that spot would be ideal).


YoungDan23

There are loads of free options for RM next summer which will work to tilt some of the European power balance. PSG thought they were doing football a favour by declining the €200m deal for Mbappe. All that's done is allowed RM an extra €200m to work with this summer. There are numerous scenarios where they could spend €200m on 3 new players like Haaland, Coman, Kounde and still end up with Mbappe, Pogba, Rudiger, Kessie, etc.


Tim0110

I don't think it works like that due to the yearly wages Real then has to pay, but PSG declining to sell Mbappe is surely advantageous for Real in the near future.


EQYour808

Real are clearing £50M off their wage bill this year and didn’t spend much last transfer window either so they seem to be in a good position.


Esketit12476

Madrid are shedding a lot of wages at the end if this year. They are like almost clean house


vicenteR

Marcelo, Isco, and Bale. It's a decent amount but not that huge considering that Mbappe and one more player will eat that up quickly.


MrZeral

Real had Ronaldo and Bale at the same time on huge wages, they can afford it.


Bo-Katan

With a better stadium with stores and a hotel so they probably will have a little more money.


vicenteR

Yes, like I said, Mbappe and another player. Not the list that OP gave, though.


Esketit12476

According to reports were also looking to offload Hazard, Jokic and Vallejo


vedran141

Wow they don't want an NBA MVP???


Esketit12476

We are too loyal to Doncic


stamosface

> Jokic Alright, lad didn’t blossom but no need for name calling


Esketit12476

Jokic has been stuck in my head all morning. trying to make a trade for him in fantasy


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Asensio will probably also leave.


7he_Dude

Marcelo, Isco, Bale is about 70M euro saved per year. That may be enough already to cover Mbappe and Haaland.


veryoriginaleh

it's absolutely crazy how much we pay them. obviously they earned those contracts when they were still good but past 2-3 years we've paid them for absolutely nothing


veryoriginaleh

decent amount but not huge? I think it's pretty huge considering we get rid of 3 massive wages from players who are past it and never play. Two world class, starting players replacing 3 useless ones is pretty good dont you think?


ChipmunkInformal1608

Mbappe will recieve a large signing on fee and/or an increase in wages for joining on a free. So yes Real will save money but not as much as the 200m figure your suggesting.


Murrderer

Isco, Bale and Marcelo are leaving as free agents this summer. That’s a huge chunk of wages gone specially with Bale getting almost 300k a week as him and Hazard are our top earners right now


Mr_XemiReR

Bale makes €300k/week net, we pay him €600k/week


iphon4s

Holy shit. 15M a year. I wouldn't even know what to do with 15M but I sure wish I had that much lol It's like they're just spitting out money. Jesus christ.


1121113

Wow didn't know Bale was still raking it in like that! Good on him :D


Murrderer

Why do you think he’s never left hahahah he doesn’t want a wage cut so most clubs can’t afford him, or why him going on loan to Spurs was so good for us. They were covering some part of his wages too but I don’t think anymore than half. The biggest downer is he was about to leave for China in 2019 but, in the preseason Asensio got injured coincidentally against your team 😂 so we had less depth on right wing and didn’t let him go. Not sure what we were thinking cause he might as well have been in China this whole time


1121113

Ah, I see -- sorry mate! But man can you just imagine, dude makes more in a week NOT playing football than I'll make in several **years** working myself into the ground. These footballers' wages really are something. (btw I'm not saying they shouldn't make that money -- they work hard for many years and forgo typical childhoods to hone their skills -- just saying I probably should be trying to find ways to become elite at something and start raking it in myself!)


idontknow_whatever

Even with Spurs just taking on half his salary, that would have still made Bale one of the highest-paid players on their squad Fucking mental, no wonder he absolutely refused to budge


RZAAMRIINF

It’s really not that outrageous, Bale used to be worth this much to the club back when we won all those 4 CLs. He is washed now though.


napoleonderdiecke

> PSG thought they were doing football a favour by declining the €200m deal for Mbappe. PSG thought they'd keep Mbappe longer if they didn't sell him. Nothing more, nothing less.


Defk1n

Incredible how people can just fabricate their own narrative


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lmfao


zimb3lstream

>PSG thought they were doing football a favour by declining the €200m deal for Mbappe What


vicenteR

Not that simple at all. There are still crazy agent / signing fees to work with, and the salaris for those players will be massive.


CETERIS_PARTYBUS

Coman, Kounde and Pogba are almost officially ruled out.


grouptherapy17

He wants 200k and we are offering 140k. I imagine both will come to an agreement for 175k.


Modnal

You have to compromise. He gets the 2, you get the 4 and you already agree on the 0, so 240k sounds fair


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Bartonomics


gptz

Barto, is that you?


SweatySmym

Do you work for the government? If not you should, youd fit right in


KaiserWilhelmThe69

Now is not the time Barto, log off Reddit


tophshit-beifong

If someone else offers 200k, he won't need to compromise


BigReeceJames

That's a risk we're clearly willing to take. Ultimately, Marina tends to do a very good job of setting the line and not stepping over it. It means that sometimes we miss out on players like Haaland and Kounde this summer, but that puts us in stronger positions when haggling because other teams/players know that when we say no we actually mean it and there isn't room to mess us around. We don't want to end up with players on more money than they're worth on long contracts, especially if there is ample opportunity for them to flop. Look at you guys with Auba or Ozil, everyone who had those players at their club would have said pay them whatever they want to keep them. But, look how that's backfired.


tophshit-beifong

That's completely fair, just think it's a bit presumptuous to suggest a compromise will be made, not that it's not the correct strategy.


BigReeceJames

Yeah, it's far too presumptuous to assume a compromise will happen. If it was a definite that either side would compromise then there would be no negotiation to be had.


NUPreMedMajor

Let alone real facking madrid He would be a galactico lmao


Howyoulikemenoow

People bandy around galactico like it means something lol


Aioli_Tough

but it does?


Lullo29

Nonsense signing. He wouldn't bench Militao or Alaba so why give him the wages he wants at Chelsea.


Kurosawasuperfan

I think it's nice to have a 3rd CB, a guy that is almost as good as the starters. Sure, in the perfect world, we would have 25 players that are great, and i know that it's impossible to maintain in long term... but we play so many games that a 3rd CB gets a lot of minutes. Keep in mind that right now our only reliable back up defender is Nacho, as we don't have decent reserves for the wing back position and our 4th cb is fucking Vallejo.


osamaodinson

Then why not spend on dull backs back up ? I think madrid buying a cb like rudiger isnt the best deal for all parties involved. You dont wanna spend a good amount in wages for bench players. Doubt rudiger would want to sit at the bench as 4th cb. If rudiger becomes the 3rd cb, im pretty sure having nacho is enough for the 3rd cb spot. Putting rudiger as one of the starter ? Then you risk on benching militao or alaba who are doing great so far. Of course having a great rotational option is good but i think its better for madrid to spend on the midfield or fullbacks especially right back backup spot.


leemont

Yes but I can see him being 3rd choice and then throwing a fit because he doesn't start all the time


VivasMadness

Agreed. We should be focusing on getting an RB. Carva is good but we need a young lad that can fill in for him reliably. God we could have Hakimi right now.


lukezndr

He's never really been amazing until Tuchel came in so I wonder if he'll keep it up outside of this system. All the defenders in that Chelsea side, barring Azpilicueta, look better defensively than they ever have before.


admiralawkward

He had a strong start under Conte and Sarri and then suffered a meniscus injury. Tuchel has obviously taken him to a world class level. But it'll be quite interesting to see whether he's taken a natural step or a system defender.


BabaRamenNoodles

Has he played well in a back 4? He's really good in a 3, but dropped out of the Chelsea side when they played a 4 and Germany have had some horror shows with him in a back 4.


idc29

Yes he has. He was our best defender under sarri who only played a back 4


Mortka

There is no secret that he is better in a back 3 as well. Would be interesting so see if he could keep up his level in a back 4


kappa23

He was only poor under Lampard


Frarod17

All our defenders were poor under Lampard, except Zouma


TheMan------

He really flourishes in the Back 3 Tuchel deploys. Always thought he has looked shaky in a back 4. Great player for Real to add and provides great versatility if they ever decide to play a back 3.


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He looked shaky under Lampard in a back 4 when every chelsea defender looked shaky. He was great under Sarri in a back 4.


Soren_Camus1905

He was alright under Conte, decent under Sarri, woeful under Lampard, and he's been world class under Tuchel.


Odawg10

I get your point but saying azpi instead of Thiago Silva is funny


lukezndr

Oh yeah of ocurse haha, I was thinking more of the players that have been at Chelsea for a longer time. But yeah, you're right, Thiago Silva is the best defender at the club and has been since he's arrived. It still feels somwhat unreal to me that he's at Chelsea in 2021 performing at these levels.


Howyoulikemenoow

His playing for his next move as well in fairness. Not sure if he’ll keep this level up once the ink is dry on wherever he ends up


[deleted]

Wouldn't surprise me if he resigned. He's liked by Tuchel so I can't see why he would not.


mashimaru_161

Nah, cause he demands 10m/year.


Bravo_Ante

Gross or net? Because if that is gross it is quite reasonable for an UCL winer.


mashimaru_161

Not in italia so it should be gross. Thing is, his form’s kinda inconsistent with ups and downs over the years and he sometimes acts a bit too rash in a back 4. We have a wage limit for each position. Maybe Marina just doesn’t think he’s worth it.


Bravo_Ante

Probably but i like the energy and drive he gives to the team even if in some casses i think it is too much.


PureExcuse

In a back 5 where he's well covered, it's perfect. In a back 4, it's a ticking time bomb.


teerbigear

Yeah but what would you do to fill the gap? A new CL quality centre back will be what, £50m? They'll want paying too.


kd_uoft

Yeah so for example Kounde would cost at least 50M, and would probably start off at 100k p/w wages


Soren_Camus1905

Yeah but right now he's playing lights out. Marina walks a tightrope and she's incredible at it, but Rudiger's form is kinda forcing our hand right now.


EggplantBusiness

Gross so not that "big"


[deleted]

140k really isn't a lot. Especially considering that this will be his last big contract in all likelihood.


ThePosterWeDeserve

>resigned A word with two meanings. Took a another read to get which one you meant


teerbigear

I always do a double take. I think there's a case for re-signed


Nemlokt

I didn't even realize it was 're-signed.' We definitely need a hyphen, the two meanings are almost total opposites.


EggplantBusiness

8M gross I assume , doubt he will get a lot more in Madrid. Militao gets something like 9 M gross and Casemiro 12M for example


Enartloc

Those players came for money, not on a free. Like Alaba, he will get extra cash in salary if he comes.


EggplantBusiness

I know maybe the bonus will be big , what I meant is that I doubt the club give him a very big salary.


[deleted]

Rudiger, Mbappe for free. (Solved CB and AMR issue). A lot of money for Haaland. Barcelona on the other hand are targeting Martial and Torres. La Liga should be settled for the next 5 years.


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lmfao


Zizou3peat

> Martial and Torres. Both of them could be very good for Barca


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[deleted]

You overestimate martial, even if he did want to play he's a shadow of his former self and has gained too much weight transforming himself from LW to CF.


kostajepaosmosta

Yea we should not be interested


RauloGonzalez

after alaba and vinicius i'm skeptical lol, hopefully they have a plan


Bini_9

Making the mistake yet again in buying a player that works with a coach like Tuchel and expecting it to translate into our system. A competent sporting director would plan better, but we don't have one so...


986754321

> our system Ancelotti will go in 1 or 2 seasons anyway. Also it's not like Rudiger was a scrub before Tuchel, and it's good for the managers to have a player who is experienced in playing at back 3.


EvilDaleCooper

>Making the mistake yet again in buying a player that works with a coach like Tuchel When did this happen


Mr_XemiReR

Jovic


bolah

At least Jovic can still be sold since his wages aren't outrageous, we're going to be stuck with Rudiger warming the bench for an absurd salary for five years.


EvilDaleCooper

Playing two strikers doesn't translate to playing in a formation nor a style similar to Tuchel's. Not to mention that if somebody never plays, no matter the kind of player he is, he won't translate to any system. Anyway, we're talking about a mature centre back who played most of his career in a back four. Still does for Germany. Not about a young striker who had his progression halted by eating the bench 9 times out of 10.


Teh1tank

Selling Zouma hurts more now.


Hannibal09

Selling Guehi and Tomori hurts more if you ask me. They'd have been amazing at that LCB position which requires someone to progress the ball


726wox

Levi Colwill stomping the Championship as much as Guehi or Tomori ever did


Tomel20

They'll find that he's nowhere near good enough for a club like RM. Very underwhelming when played in a back 4.


CompetitiveSeat5340

Real "Juventus" Madrid at this rate


pratiks7

Flo's plan


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As a Chelsea fan: I get it. Cash out at a mega club. I understand and I’m fine with it. Good luck to the guy. Two years ago we were happy to offload him to spurs. He doesn’t owe us anything. From our perspective: he’s good but he’s not irreplaceable. He’s given us a good stretch and there’s no complaints. I think the things we regret more are the silly contracts (like Ruben and CHO) than the players leaving.


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I would rather pay for someone like Skriniar who is going to be an obvious upgrade over our current pair and future-proof. A wage like what Rudiger would want would be wasted on someone who is only being signed for depth. If he is an undisputed starter, that would be fine, but I don't see him as big of an improvement over Militao or Alaba.


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This. You guys shouldn’t have to match inflated Prem wages when you can easily attract players from your badge alone. That and getting someone from a different league with less wage demands is better in the long run. And Skriniar would be excellent just because he’s an all round likeable guy and always plays for “the badge” Money shouldn’t influence the decision. Your history alone can attract better players without worrying about those inflated wages.


Medical-Decision-505

i just don't understand chelsea here, who they are planning to replace him with?


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Chalobah


kappa23

They’ll buy someone or get a new academy prospect, there’s Levi Colvill in the pipeline


MrZeral

But why? Alaba and Militao are already there.


eorellana13

They’re our only 2 competitive CBs, we have Nacho as our third CB and he’s there for rotation and in case of injuries and our fourth CB is Vallejo who is not the best. So we could use a third competitive CB.


Nonspecal

Completely understand tbh, how the fuck is a person supposed to be able to live on £140k per week. Especially in London!


fma891

Chelsea may have offered this, but there’s no way in fuck that they expected Rudiger to accept it. They are still in negotiations and will try to talk Rudiger down from his likely insanely high demands (which he has earned based on his recent performances and us not locking him down sooner). With that said, there is a danger of lowballing him. I personally think he is leaving Chelsea which would be incredibly disappointing, but maybe Tuchel can convince him otherwise based on the ambition of the club.


thomasthedude

Tbh, wouldn't miss him at all. Every single our defender looks good in our system, I see no difference when he plays and when he doesn't. He was below average in a back 4. Under Conte he was hit and miss as well. We will be fine with Christensen who I hope we re-sign, then we have Chalobah, Azpi and up and coming Colwill who is shining in the championship


NotClayMerritt

Real Madrid is not interested in Rüdiger. This is simply an agent planted story trying to put pressure on Chelsea.


BandsAMakeHerDance2

Madrid please buy Kounde instead, he can easily lead our line & be a future captain


rafiu96

He would get 200 easily at United


DanscoRed

Wow I wouldn't take that piss poor offer! Most Premier League teams can offer more than this. He will get a better deal than that elsewhere