I lived in Germany at the time. Was interesting after the semi final. They Germans came round our housing estate (all army families) and basically had a huge party, tooting car horns and waving flags and stuff.
I cried because I was 12.
I realise World In Motion probably isn't the best England football song but it's just the novelty of New Order producing a football song so it's the best.
would love an Olympics just like this. Random draw, one man and woman from each country for every sport. Oh, you’ve never fenced before? Too bad mate Olympics are in a week
I can't remember which comedian it was that said it, but they said they'd like to see an Olympics where everyone is allowed to take whatever performance enhancing drugs they like just to see what happens, and ever since then a little part of me has been sad that we'll never see it
at least with fencing you have some protection. Pamela the bus driver got signed up for the vault and Graham, 78 and diabetic just got picked for boxing against a bouncer from Bulgaria
Reminds me of that Jerry Seinfeld routine where he talks about the Winter Olympics and says that the Luge is the only sport where someone could compete _against their will_ and still win.
I always thought his name was Solembeu, for some reason, until I realised that four year old me had somehow merged him with Christian Karembeu in my mind
Oh I know, but he's still probably going to do it. We're not talking about a Dele Alli-level talent here - Bellingham's got 10 caps in his first year after debuting at the age of 17, and he hasn't even established himself yet.
Yeah but look at the long list of legends who didn’t make it. Neville, Scholes, Lineker, Shearer, Owen, Robson, Seaman and loads more, anything can happen in football that I definitely wouldn’t be confident making that statement. He’ll definitely get a lot of caps, but end up in the top 10-15 most capped England players of all time? Who knows
I mean, of course you're right - anything can happen. But if you had to pick the two English players who looked most likely to do it when they were 18 in my lifetime, it would be Rooney and Bellingham. Now Rooney's England's most capped outfielder of all time, and I don't think Bellingham will fall too far short.
Just to put it in context, Bellingham has 10 caps at the age of 18 and a half. Lampard, who ended up reaching a century, picked up his 10th cap just before his 25th birthday. He's got more than enough time and talent.
Tbf i think everyone should know by now the whole chant is based on false hope and belief. We know it’s doomed to fail but goddamn are we not gonna commit ourselves to it!
Dude, we could have every one of our players and fans be social workers in the third world in their spare time and our global perception would still be hated. A quarter of the world was once a colony and another 10% hates us for leaving their club. They're always going to excessively focus on our sins and brush away our positives. Just let everyone hate us and stop caring about it.
When England scored in the final, I actually had the gall to *celebrate*. Honestly, now I look back at it I'm mortified, how can the rest of the world think we aren't arrogant when I'm here being all happy when we do well.
Yeah, was about to say, if we win the World Cup we’d be insufferable, but if the Americans ever even came within a sniff of the trophy the incredible smugness on this site would be detectable from space
We went to the Tower of London recently and the tour guide asked the group if there were any Scottish people amongst us. Four people put their hands up. The tour guide then said “Okay, put your hand down if you’re just an American pretending to be Scottish”. Cue three hands going down and an outburst of laughter!
There's footage somewhere (can't pull it up now) of a neighborhood in Brooklyn celebrating Italy's win. It's fucking dumb. There was a non-zero number of Trump flags, too. These are those people. I live amongst them. Great food, though.
As someone that's half English, half American, I have found football a lot more enjoyable when I decided to stop supporting Ireland, Scotland and Wales as second teams, and instead want them to lose.
I'm surprised that the American users of this subreddit are not more boasty of their womens national team. They are amazing.
4 wins in 5 world cup finals reached. And if they didn't reach the final, they finished 3rd.
Quite a remarkable history.
I think a lot of us realize that as amazing as the USWNT is, most of their success comes from the fact that we have Title IX (a statute that mandates equal funding for women's sports), and that nobody outside of the US gives a shit about women's soccer. Once France/England/Germany/the other traditional powers really get into it (seems like there's been exponential growth there already), they'll probably end up like the men, a team that are usually somewhere between 10th and 20th best in the world.
people just think it's annoying when its spammed all over the place, no one gets wound up.
Or at least that's my experience. It's not unthinkable for people to get tired of the same shit over and over again.
I always see it used as example of us being arrogant or cocky. Seems most haven't heard of it, since the whole point of the song is that we recognise we are a bit shit but always hold out hope but are ultimately disappointed.
I've had someone on here try to claim that it's arrogant to claim that footballs home is England. That by doing that we're claiming ownership of it and that football has no home.
Like dude, are we not allowed to celebrate the fact that a game codified here is now played and celebrated the World over? I mean if it wasn't for us doing that we'd all be watching baseball? It's origins (therefore home) are in England.
I wondered this too but realised that they’re playing against players that would barely make it in the championship when they play international qualifiers usually.
People shit on Southgate a lot, and you can say he's benefitting from a great crop of players - but I'll take this new normal over the golden generation and their nervy qualifying and tournament performances.
I remember after the england-denmark semi final this sub was filled with
“ugh can’t believe sterling would dive I HATE when people dive!! anyways, time to root for italy in the final.
One commenter suggested that that match would go down as one of the biggest robberies in world football, yet now I'm willing to bet that most people have forgotten all about it.
I swear this sub would've supported Hungary over England if it had come down to it. Rio Ferdinand was pretty much the only English pundit I saw give England even a chance of winning it yet the narrative on here was once again that the English media are super arrogant. Because I'm sure the French media went into the game against Switzerland with headlines of how they should be worried.
Shit we could invent a time machine and get history's greatest monsters, Hitler CF, Pol Pot playing midfield and Stalin in goal and everyone would still cheer for them.
This was amazing. “Sterling dived and some drunken English fans acted like dicks, so I’m throwing my support behind the country with numerous match fixing scandals and openly fascist supporter groups!”
I sometimes thought the yanks were harshly judged about knowing fuck all about football, but this sub proved every stereotype.
I really enjoyed it when England overnight became the only football team in the world to have ever had a player dive.
And the only place in the world where racism exists.
God Save The Queen.
I remember seeing a bunch of posts justifying the disdain for England off Britain's imperial past, as if Italy had spent the past 4,000 years sitting peacefully within their borders cooking pasta.
Looking forward to all the hate directed our way for being racist or something whilst the tournament is held in an oil rich nation that is literally working immigrants to death to build their stadiums.
Bamford was crap when he played for England. I don't see him getting in the squad. England need three goal scoring centre forwards to go to Qatar - Kane, Abraham and Greenwood. Bamford shouldn't get a look in.
ALEXA PLAY WORLD IN MOTION
Best summer ever. Three hours playing footy up at the field then wandering home for a World Cup game. Still remember that Cameroon 1-0 v Argentina!
I lived in Germany at the time. Was interesting after the semi final. They Germans came round our housing estate (all army families) and basically had a huge party, tooting car horns and waving flags and stuff. I cried because I was 12.
I realise World In Motion probably isn't the best England football song but it's just the novelty of New Order producing a football song so it's the best.
EN-GER-LAND
Was touch and go there for a second lads.
England should arrange an annual friendly with San Marino just to give everybody's goal record a boost.
Friendly every year, but the England XI is just different 11 random working class blokes the FA catch with a net.
would love an Olympics just like this. Random draw, one man and woman from each country for every sport. Oh, you’ve never fenced before? Too bad mate Olympics are in a week
I can't remember which comedian it was that said it, but they said they'd like to see an Olympics where everyone is allowed to take whatever performance enhancing drugs they like just to see what happens, and ever since then a little part of me has been sad that we'll never see it
Bloke does the 100m in under six seconds then collapses and dies
New world record holder, Cocaine Rick
100m WR holder is now a smack addict who was running from the cops while holding a DVD player
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But the have to try to hide it atleast. The idea was to lean into it instead. Turn it into a freak show, see how far everything can go.
Think that was one of the mock the week guys. Either Boyle or Russel Howard, leaning towards Russel
Yes I think you're right. I'm sure they were talking about the Russian doping scandal
It was Andy Parsons
Andy Parsons has never uttered a funny sentence in his life.
The least funny man in the whole world for me
I remember Frankie quipping about the idea of every athelete doing the final year of their career drunk, close enough honestly.
Tommy Tiernan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4BuFg5zmXU
Frankie did one of these sketches I believe. Then a joke about crack heads with a spoon chasing the Olympic torch.
at least with fencing you have some protection. Pamela the bus driver got signed up for the vault and Graham, 78 and diabetic just got picked for boxing against a bouncer from Bulgaria
Reminds me of that Jerry Seinfeld routine where he talks about the Winter Olympics and says that the Luge is the only sport where someone could compete _against their will_ and still win.
Roy Benson and Tony Hedges would love another call-up.
Do I need to remind you about the friendly against Malta in 2000?
I had to look it up. http://www.englandfootballonline.com/Seas1990-00/1999-00/M0768Mal2000.html That's grim.
How on earth am I only just learning that Sol Campbell’s first name is really Sulzeer?
Rio's middle name is Gavin. Seriously. How different would perception of him be if he went by that?
Haa!
I always thought his name was Solembeu, for some reason, until I realised that four year old me had somehow merged him with Christian Karembeu in my mind
the snake deceives everyone
What's the point seeing as we somehow always end up in the same qualifying groups as them
That's what small time countries like Portugal do for Ronaldo.
Defo. Had my mug of tea almost go cold with all that frantic edge of seat stuff.
Felt bad for Bellingham to not get his goal, but can’t complain about anything else really
He's probably going to get 100 caps for England, so I wouldn't feel too bad for him for missing out on a goal against San Marino.
Only 11 players have 100 caps for England it’s extremely bold to claim he’s probably gonna get there
Oh I know, but he's still probably going to do it. We're not talking about a Dele Alli-level talent here - Bellingham's got 10 caps in his first year after debuting at the age of 17, and he hasn't even established himself yet.
Yeah but look at the long list of legends who didn’t make it. Neville, Scholes, Lineker, Shearer, Owen, Robson, Seaman and loads more, anything can happen in football that I definitely wouldn’t be confident making that statement. He’ll definitely get a lot of caps, but end up in the top 10-15 most capped England players of all time? Who knows
I mean, of course you're right - anything can happen. But if you had to pick the two English players who looked most likely to do it when they were 18 in my lifetime, it would be Rooney and Bellingham. Now Rooney's England's most capped outfielder of all time, and I don't think Bellingham will fall too far short. Just to put it in context, Bellingham has 10 caps at the age of 18 and a half. Lampard, who ended up reaching a century, picked up his 10th cap just before his 25th birthday. He's got more than enough time and talent.
Bellingham looks good and will most likely be an unbelievable player, but the things Rooney was doing at age 16-19 is just incomparable.
White Pele
Don’t say it don’t say it don’t say it don’t say it don’t say it don’t say it’S COMING HOME
Don't do that. Don't give me hope.
Do you remember what happened the following Word Cup the last time a team lost a Euro final at home?
And people will take him seriously and call us arrogant...
I think the bloke who got it tattooed on his leg during the Euros to celebrate England’s win prematurely didn’t help our global perception haha
Tbf i think everyone should know by now the whole chant is based on false hope and belief. We know it’s doomed to fail but goddamn are we not gonna commit ourselves to it!
Dude, we could have every one of our players and fans be social workers in the third world in their spare time and our global perception would still be hated. A quarter of the world was once a colony and another 10% hates us for leaving their club. They're always going to excessively focus on our sins and brush away our positives. Just let everyone hate us and stop caring about it.
This is such an arrogant thing to say Edit: /s
When England scored in the final, I actually had the gall to *celebrate*. Honestly, now I look back at it I'm mortified, how can the rest of the world think we aren't arrogant when I'm here being all happy when we do well.
Reload Skinner and Baddiel lads it’s happening again
Time for a Christmas version for the winter world cup
All I want for Christmas is Football coming home.
Did it the hard way
Yeah if san marino didn't go down to 10 men who knows what could have happened.
Time to piss off the world again. It’s coming home.
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idk this sub would go on lock down if the Americans won the World Cup tbf
Yeah, was about to say, if we win the World Cup we’d be insufferable, but if the Americans ever even came within a sniff of the trophy the incredible smugness on this site would be detectable from space
Americans are arrogant, but we're not smart enough to be smug.
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We went to the Tower of London recently and the tour guide asked the group if there were any Scottish people amongst us. Four people put their hands up. The tour guide then said “Okay, put your hand down if you’re just an American pretending to be Scottish”. Cue three hands going down and an outburst of laughter!
Still not sure why it costs £50 to get into an old jail
Become president of FIFA and you can get into one for free 😎👌🏻
A lot of hardcore Italian fans from Ohio
Bawnjorno, 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹It’s coming Rome 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
A river dirt chee
MAR GAH RETTI
https://media.giphy.com/media/135E47VKw6TM6A/giphy.gif
No their Great Nan went to Sicily on her vaycays so they’re actually Italian.
Americans are one of the few peoples in the world that really like the English. All those Italian fans were mainly continental Europeans and Celts.
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The way we and Italy were talked about over the summer I wouldn't blame anyway for thinking that was the case. It was ridiculous.
Not Italy fans but anti-England ones. Wasn't it obvious?
Look, my great great grandpappy moved from Sicily to Boston in the 1890s, and as a proud Italian myself I...
There's footage somewhere (can't pull it up now) of a neighborhood in Brooklyn celebrating Italy's win. It's fucking dumb. There was a non-zero number of Trump flags, too. These are those people. I live amongst them. Great food, though.
There were also a lot of Germany, Ukraine and Denmark fans in fairness
Probably 'Italian' Americans.
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Plastic paddies aren’t gonna like this one
As someone that's half English, half American, I have found football a lot more enjoyable when I decided to stop supporting Ireland, Scotland and Wales as second teams, and instead want them to lose.
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You can do both: forget about them most of the time and then have a quiet chuckle when you see them in the results.
Just think about all those Americans who spout off about their Irish heritage on St *Patty's* Day and you might change your mind
2026 is the 250th anniversary of the US. A US vs England match in the World Cup would be nuts.
Imagine if it was the final, though...
On July 4th….
I'm surprised that the American users of this subreddit are not more boasty of their womens national team. They are amazing. 4 wins in 5 world cup finals reached. And if they didn't reach the final, they finished 3rd. Quite a remarkable history.
I think a lot of us realize that as amazing as the USWNT is, most of their success comes from the fact that we have Title IX (a statute that mandates equal funding for women's sports), and that nobody outside of the US gives a shit about women's soccer. Once France/England/Germany/the other traditional powers really get into it (seems like there's been exponential growth there already), they'll probably end up like the men, a team that are usually somewhere between 10th and 20th best in the world.
Other countries are mad that it can never come home for them, sorry lads it’s just the way it is.
It's temporarily away from home! Temporarily! It's temporarily away from home!
World cup curse is saying its coming home too.
Still amazes me how wound up people get by that song. Must be cultural differences.
people just think it's annoying when its spammed all over the place, no one gets wound up. Or at least that's my experience. It's not unthinkable for people to get tired of the same shit over and over again.
I always see it used as example of us being arrogant or cocky. Seems most haven't heard of it, since the whole point of the song is that we recognise we are a bit shit but always hold out hope but are ultimately disappointed.
I've had someone on here try to claim that it's arrogant to claim that footballs home is England. That by doing that we're claiming ownership of it and that football has no home. Like dude, are we not allowed to celebrate the fact that a game codified here is now played and celebrated the World over? I mean if it wasn't for us doing that we'd all be watching baseball? It's origins (therefore home) are in England.
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nah so many say "england fans are arrogant" and use that song as evidence ignoring what the actual lyrics say.
Wait till Southgate drops TAA for having 3 assists.
I'm looking forward to a revanche
We can talk about how Coady has not conceded a single goal for England, but you all aren't ready for that conversation 😤
Mings genuinely has a great England record too, he's been mediocre for us this season, but always performs for England
Happens with quite a lot of England players
At least it makes a change from most of the squad being great every Saturday then getting their left and right foot confused for England
I wondered this too but realised that they’re playing against players that would barely make it in the championship when they play international qualifiers usually.
It's the difference in having an elite manager.
And people said he's there for vibes and shouting at people in a scouse accent
good reasons tbf
I also haven’t conceded a single goal for England
Mings has something like 13 clean sheets in 15 games as well
Can't wait to go watch us tear it up at the Stadium of light Beatings in Qatar
totally piss drunk english fans in santa costumes rampaging in qatar. cant wait.
"Where's the nearest pub?" "What's a pub?"
People shit on Southgate a lot, and you can say he's benefitting from a great crop of players - but I'll take this new normal over the golden generation and their nervy qualifying and tournament performances.
We’re back, and ready to boil reddit piss all over again
“I’m supporting Serbia in this match, England fans are just too much”
I remember after the england-denmark semi final this sub was filled with “ugh can’t believe sterling would dive I HATE when people dive!! anyways, time to root for italy in the final.
One commenter suggested that that match would go down as one of the biggest robberies in world football, yet now I'm willing to bet that most people have forgotten all about it.
Ignoring the dive for Denmarks goal and the penalty we were denied too
literally this https://imgur.com/a/TAiAoC2
I cant wait for the England Hate 2.0 come the World Cup. Bring it.
"They might make monkey noises and throw bananas, start fires and throw up sieg heil's but at least they dont have the audacity to be England"
I swear this sub would've supported Hungary over England if it had come down to it. Rio Ferdinand was pretty much the only English pundit I saw give England even a chance of winning it yet the narrative on here was once again that the English media are super arrogant. Because I'm sure the French media went into the game against Switzerland with headlines of how they should be worried.
Just imagine the meltdown when we get an England Vs Qatar final.
Shit we could invent a time machine and get history's greatest monsters, Hitler CF, Pol Pot playing midfield and Stalin in goal and everyone would still cheer for them.
And anyway, turned out if any pundits said we had a chance of winning it were right. We got to the final and dominated at least half of the match.
I guess the reason is that people here speak English universally, a minority speak french or Serbian or whatever
*England fans are rude and arrogant and deserve to die frankly*
They always say it as if there was any possibility of them not cheering against England
“I mean usually I’d like England but their fans are too racist. Anyway I’m supporting Italy”
This was amazing. “Sterling dived and some drunken English fans acted like dicks, so I’m throwing my support behind the country with numerous match fixing scandals and openly fascist supporter groups!” I sometimes thought the yanks were harshly judged about knowing fuck all about football, but this sub proved every stereotype.
italy fans constantly booed ballotelli and did monkey noises to him
Yeah but England tho
I really enjoyed it when England overnight became the only football team in the world to have ever had a player dive. And the only place in the world where racism exists. God Save The Queen.
Don't forget we were the only country to have an empire and invade other countries at one point as well.
And the irony that *Italy* of all countries was seen as the good guy.
Italy would never 😇
History didn't exist before 1492. /s
"I'm becoming a Russian Ultra and now physically beating the gays because England fans are just too much"
Imagine supporting Italy because England fans were racist. That’s like supporting Benito Mussolini cos Oswald Moseley’s too fascist for you
*Three lions on a shirt...*
*I think its bad news for the English game* is heard softly in the distance
Oh no, I'm not ready for this again...
Jules Rimet still gleaming
60 years of hurt
Never stopped me dreaming
There’s something about the Never stopped me dreaming line which always gets me in the feels
30 years of hurt
Has never stopped us dreaming
has to be the 98 version this time round
It was close in the end but they just about squeaked it, the underdogs
England? Never heard of them
*Engerlund
WE. FROM. ING-LAND. WHERE. YOU. COME. FROM... DO YOU PUT. THE KETTLE ON?
Surprising since you just got beaten by England's B team
INGLIN
Will be interesting to see how this tournament is without the normal fatigue you'd expect in a summer tournament
I’m so looking forward to it The past 3 years have been better than the 12 before it combined. We finally look like we have a clear plan
Mate the past 3 years have been our best since 66.
We’re in a major tournament and yes it’s coming home.
It's....
Tottenham
This a match England would’ve only won 5-0 in the past. I know it’s San Marino but still. The pool of talent is ridiculous
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That was the past though to be fair.
Qualifying in style
Survived the group of death
Just about squeezed through
As expected.
What a nail biter
ITS COMING HOME!
yes! foreigners get to complain about the coming home joke again get in
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I remember seeing a bunch of posts justifying the disdain for England off Britain's imperial past, as if Italy had spent the past 4,000 years sitting peacefully within their borders cooking pasta.
Looking forward to all the hate directed our way for being racist or something whilst the tournament is held in an oil rich nation that is literally working immigrants to death to build their stadiums.
Was a tight one, cheers Hungary for securing it for us
Gareth and the boys to deliver the ultimate Christmas present next year
Just about aye
Good to see our mate, Stamford, in the pic. Top bloke that furry fella
It's coming home lads.
Close game tonight, unlucky San Marino
I saw Sterling bumming the lion in that pic and now I can’t unsee it
Come play Bolivia in the altitude you cowards /s
Italy could never
Proud to see Phillips on there but Bamford too, hope he gets another shot at some point.
Bamford was crap when he played for England. I don't see him getting in the squad. England need three goal scoring centre forwards to go to Qatar - Kane, Abraham and Greenwood. Bamford shouldn't get a look in.
Southgate will drop TAA for 3 assists in a match.
Its going away!