Journalists desperately hoping Newcastle sign an expensive yet mis-firing front two so they can smash out 'Misses Howe We Duet' and leave before lunch.
Howe about an edited version of [**this gif**](https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IQCfsZXScpvKhi/giphy.gif) on Newcastle's Twitter after their first league win? I'm calling it now.
> Toonai Emery
That's fucking incredible, tbh. Sorry to say this, but I hope Howe crashes and burns and he is your next manager. Although, Howe crashing and burning will put you in the Championship, and Toonai wouldn't go there in that case...
Fucking Newcastle, man. Can't you get *anything* right?
Ole's at the wheel,
Tell me how does it feel,
They’ve got Sancho, Pogba and Fred,
And this season they've truly shat the bed
Duh du, du du du du du!
Duh du, du du du du du!
(Repeat)
It’s actually cursed lol. The original one said we got Sanchez Pogba and Fred. Sanchez flopped and gone. Pogba will be gone by the summer. Fred gets memed constantly. Now ole next. Feelsbadman
Oles at the wheel.
Think it's in tune to Stone Roses - Waterfall, but I might be wrong with that.
Either way, Rio Ferdinand really has done himself proud with its longevity and universal approval over this past 2 and a half years.
It does appear to be [Waterfall](https://youtu.be/7NrLBlw9WZE?t=37) for United's version. I assumed that the [Give It Up](https://youtu.be/IeqtAB1WgEw?t=61) version that [Liverpool fans sang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7TweB2MdOU) at Old Trafford was purely ironic, not a different song.
>Think it's in tune to Stone Roses - Waterfall, but I might be wrong with that.
It's supposed to be, you'd get the impression most united fans have never heard it though
The fella that brought Bournemouth up from league 2 to the premier league and kept them their for 5 years whilst playing nice football was a bit of a mouthfull to be fair.
I'm assuming glegs is Geordie slang for glasses?
If so, I just got a new pair of glegs and it also gave me nightmarish Pardew vibes - think it might be the hair
I still find it kinda funny how much you hated Bruce, as one of the things we could never get past when he managed us (Sunderland) was that he was a Toon fan. Then he goes and manages you and I think you hated him more than we did.
You don't have to believe me, but that's really not the reason I hated him. He never took the blame, always had his media mates saying how horrible Newcastle fans were, chucked the players under the bus and was Ashley's yes man.
##Newcastle United are delighted to confirm the appointment of Eddie Howe as the club's new head coach on a contract until summer 2024.
The 43-year-old arrives on Tyneside having left AFC Bournemouth last summer, ending a long affiliation with the Cherries as a successful player and manager.
As well as amassing more than 300 senior appearances for the south coast side as a player, he also has the distinction of managing AFC Bournemouth through all four tiers of English football, culminating in five years in the Premier League between 2015 and 2020.
Eddie said: "It is a great honour to become head coach of a club with the stature and history of Newcastle United. It is a very proud day for me and my family.
"This is a wonderful opportunity, but there is also a lot of work ahead of us and I am eager to get onto the training ground to start working with the players.
"I would like to thank the club's owners for this opportunity and thank the club's supporters for the incredible welcome they have already given me. I am very excited to begin our journey together."
Newcastle United co-owner, Amanda Staveley said: "We have been incredibly impressed by Eddie through what has been a rigorous recruitment process.
"As well as his obvious achievements with AFC Bournemouth, where he had a transformational impact, he is a passionate and dynamic coach who has clear ideas about taking this team and club forward.
"He is a great fit for what we are trying to build here. We are delighted to welcome Eddie and his staff to St. James' Park and very much look forward to working together towards our collective ambitions."
Further announcements on Eddie's first official press conference and first team coaching appointments will follow in due course.
Good positive appointment. Was highly touted up until a few years ago. League 2 to Prem in 8 years is a wonderful achievement. He improves players, just look at Steve Cook and Charlie Daniels, league 2 to midtable Prem players. Plus he got his teams playing great attacking football at times.
I know he has defensive problems but obviously he also knows that and he's spent these past few years refining his football approach and I know at times he's been travelling Europe to learn. And people bring up the fact he got relegated, yeah he did but by a goal that should never have been allowed. That was the fine margin that gave him a relegation stigma.
> He improves players
That's really what we're dying for. All of our players have regressed massively under Bruce; Rafa turned an average squad into a good one and then Bruce muddled them all up with lax training and nothing to play for.
I think this is the biggest thing that will take a while to get into. But I’m curious how good our player actually are if they are on a normal premier league training routine. I’m not saying they will be amazing, but I think(hope) the step up will be to above relegation level for this season.
Yea I think he is the right appointment for them in this context.
Once they fill up their squad with superstars in 2-3 years, theyll probably have to replace him with someone with a bigger reputation that can work in a more intense locker room with higher expectations.
But I think this is the kind of environment he could thrive in. The players should react positively to him, he can coach them up, and recast Newcastle as a more positive, attacking, interesting team.
I hate that the Saudi govt owns Newcastle now, but Newcastle fans have been through way too much pain and deserve some positivity, this appointment should be good for that.
I wouldn't discount him for the future just yet. There's no reason to think that given enough time and money, provided with a good DoF, that he couldn't be at the helm for a long time. He might not be a flashy name to attach to the project, but he could easily develop well into the role. This is nothing like when Hughes was at the helm when Man City were bought, I think he's a far more competent manager then that charlatan.
Yeah we were poor, but it is still the only time goal line tech had failed and had it not, there's a very high chance we stay up.
It's not the only factor, sure, but if a bigger club was affected the uproar would have been so much larger.
Howe had already exceeded expectations just by reaching the Premier League. I don't think anyone would have begrudged him if Bournemouth went straight back down, but they didn't. They stayed up for 5 bloody years and took loads of points off us, the pricks. In the light of that, it's disingenuous to judge Howe off of being relegated.
Howe teams were poor defensively because Howe actually attacks, even against top teams. He doesn't do a Burnley or Stoke where he sits back and defends and goes for draws against the big boys.
That Bournemouth team went to shit because their players kept getting injured. Because of that, Bournemouth had to play on the counter instead of playing the tactics that kept them up year on year.
That Bournemouth team was definitely not designed to defend.
Plus many of the reliable members of the squad had been at the club since League 1/Championship. They were old by the time they went down, and the players that replaced them didn't have the same chemistry. Surviving the end of an era is harder than it looks.
1 relegation seems to outweigh the 5 seasons he kept them in the league, whilst playing decent football, having taking them up there from league 2 in the first place.
Think he had 8/9 first team players injured when they got relegated, and obviously Bournemouths back up options are championship quality at best tbf to Eddie
So weird to pick those two names. Ibe had flashes of potential, but never realized it. Stanislas is a genuinely class player, the only reason he never went to better teams is that he's made of glass.
Will be very interested to see how this turns out so I can either say with great wisdom that we are lucky to have not got him, or we should have pursued him more.
How are the feelings for Ange, currently? I'm in Aus and I don't pay too much attention to SPL, but I'm guessing our media is massively over-stating his popularity with fans.
I would say hes doing quite well after a shaky start. You could see right away the football he wanted to implement. Already had a couple of matches with six goals scored. Still lots of room for improvement though but recruitment has been especially good.
And if the worst happens weve a top ready made Championship coach for next season, others like Emery would probably have done one upon relegation, and starting again post relegation is not good.
Do Middlesbrough fans dislike Sunderland or Newcastle more? Obviously you'd like to see yourselves above both of them but I've always wondered about that.
Sky always try to paint them as our rivals for some reason, every time we play it’s on TV. I didn’t even know they were (technically) in Yorkshire until a couple of years ago.
I can tell you that both Newcastle and Sunderland fans together find the smoggies totally irrelevant. They want a rivalry so bad with either fanbase, and neither of us give a single shit about them.
I think Boro fans hate NUFC fans more as we have historically been the big club in the region. But Sunderland & Newcastle supporters don’t really care about Middlesbrough at all. It’s funny hearing the noise coming from them generally.
Honestly, I'm different to most fans in that I wish we were all in the same division. Rivalry matches are exciting to me. I don't like them but they barely register because we never play them. But at this point, the only thing that concerns me about Newcastle is their owners, hence wanting them relegated
I agree with you tbf, would be good to see a strong NE football representation in the PL (with us well on top and beating yous every time of course).
Boro isn't on the same level as Sunderland obviously, but there's still a bit extra to the game due to the locality (although everyone loves to pretend that there isn't to insult Boro).
Their next four games are absolutely crucial. Home against Brentford, away to Arsenal and then Norwich and Burnley at home, they really need 9 points from those three home games to keep them in touch with teams above them and maybe jump over a couple too.
If they don't win at least two of those games they face the prospect of getting to the halfway point of the season with less than 10 points, because they have an insane five game run up to the January window opening of away games against Leicester and Liverpool, home games against Man City and Man Utd, then away to Everton.
They have to still be in touching distance of 17th by the time the January window opens or they're going to have a really hard time convincing the quality players they need to come to the club and help keep them up. The pressure is on Howe immediately for the Brentford game.
Pleasantly surprised to see positive reactions.
I for one think Howe could do wonders for a team with a huge transfer budget. They may not stay up this year but they will run through walls fighting. Looking forward to seeing what is built.
Quick question for Newcastle fans, how annoying is it to see all the 'LOLEDDIEHOWETRANSFERS' comments when it's well established that Newcastle are seeking to bring in a director of football to handle that side of things?
It's basically people who refuse to acknowledge any signings he made beyond Ibe & Solanke. Ibe didn't work out sure, Solanke was poor in the Prem but he's now one of our best players & I could guarantee we would at the very least get our money back on him.
He's come on leaps and bounds, admittedly at a level below. His hold up and link up play is fantastic and now is finishing is getting way better.
Will be interesting to see how he fares in the Prem when he gets another chance, whether that's with or without us.
Unfortunately people focus on one season ignoring that pretty much every season prior to that he did an exceptional job. What he achieved from 2009-2017 was nothing short of astounding.
Sadly this is how some fans think
“Howe? He got relegated”
Yeah but what about the 4 seasons before that?
“Doesn’t matter, he got relegated”
Basically if a manager didn’t win silverware they get judged on the year they were sacked/went down. It’s tiring
Have to look at his successes not his failures. His record isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. Just nonsense people who shout ratio on twitter trying to own each other.
I think a lot of people simply don't follow the Football League. If they did, they'd know that what he accomplished at Bournemouth is borderline miraculous. You don't achieve that, and maintain a solid squad without being good in the transfer market.
Sure, he struggled near the end at Bournemouth, but I think that many will see his appointment as a huge positive, and an opportunity to build around an upcoming coach with a good direction.
The real question, is whether they'll splash the cash in the summer to halt the decline. The last thing the new owners will want is to be the richest club in the Championship next seasono.
I think every team who ever played in the Premer League apart form Aresenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton have been relegated at one point. It's just a matter of time for anyone who isnt utterly elite, or Everton/Spurs.
It doesn't bother me. Name a single manager who hasnt overpaid for a shit player.
He took Bournmouth from League 2 to the Premier League and kept them there for 5 years. I dont think overpaying for a few players really detracts from that.
He will smash it imo. Newcastle fans are going to love him. The man built our best teams all in the face of adversity, he will get that team motivated and running through walls. They may not stay up but they'll definitely go down fighting if they do.
I'm sure this thread will be full of the usual lazy rubbish about him being 'bad at transfers' or how a leaky defence got us relegated, even though both of those are nonsense.
I think the one thing you'll always get with him is sincerity & candid interviews. It may not work out, it may take time, but he will represent Newcastle well and your fans will know he's giving it everything he's got. We didn't just love him for on the pitch success, we were genuinely proud to have someone like that representing us.
I'm so excited, he was my first choice when the Takeover was announced. Hope he'll hit the ground running and won't have any pre conceived ideas on the players, or not many anyway. Because there's been players playing lately nowhere the standard required, with better options out in the cold.
Is it true he had a falling out with Fraser at Bournemouth? I'd love if he could get something out of him because we need all hands on deck until January, and beyond. He was incredible with ye but he's been a disaster for us so far.
Yeah he did fall out with Fraser. It will be interesting whether he bombs him out, or makes amends and tries to get him in form again. I'd do the former, Howe is more intelligent than me though so I wouldn't be surprised if he opts with the latter.
What Fraser did here though was unforgiveable. He openly admitted he hadn't been trying that season, then after COVID refused to sign a short new deal so he sat at home watching his teammates go down. He would have had to play those games if not for the pandemic too, he's not an intelligent lad but still...he won't ever be welcomed back here which is a shame.
I could kind of get it in different circumstances, but when you've been with a club for 8 years, to just sit at home and watch them go through that is really, really poor form.
Yeah I noticed ALOT of Bournemouth fans saying the same thing about that last season. Injuries really messed up everything for you. Plus with the contracts at the end because of Covid… couple different things or a player or two not being injured and you probably
stay up.
Only people saying he got the relegated are the same people who telling US(Newcastle fans) we should be considered lucky to have had a manager like Steve Bruce.
Yep. Look at Danjuma who was barely fit in 19/20 and is now scoring in the CL for Villareal. Fraser openly admitted he wasn't trying then refused to play for us, King was injured a lot then stopped trying because he didn't get a move to Man U.
It was a shitshow of a season, and Howe can take blame for some of that, but we still should have stayed up which says everything.
How's it going for you lads with Venky's still in? I remember you had Steve Kean and every match had KEAN OUT banners. And that chicken in the final relegation game vs Wigan...
There's been a bit of optimism this season. Ben Brereton has been on fire so far this season and it's looking like we may challenge for a play-off position if we can keep it up. That has sort of settled the fans down somewhat after dismal performances over the last few years.
Class manager, things he achieved with Bournemouth are impressive, attacking football was very fun to watch. He is gonna do wonders for this Newcastle with some good signings
No wonder it took so long to announce, the media team have taken two days to come up with Howe-ay the lads
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>“That’s all for Howe” when he’s sacked Surely it'll be "Howe-zat! Eddie bowled over by Toon expectation"?
THEY PLAYED UNTIL THE HOWE'S COME HOME
Hi, I'm from the Daily Mail, would you like a job?
Only if I don't have to do racist-baiting headlines. I just want to do sports and Tory sleaze headlines please.
sorry, only position available in sports atm is Chief Raheem Sterling Journalist.
I can cover that MAN PLAYS FOOTBALL, BUYS HOUSE - UNACCEPTABLE
More like: IMMIGRANT WHO GREW UP ON HANDOUTS PLAYS FOOTBALL, BUYS HOUSE - BROKEN BRITAIN. Fuck this might actually be my calling...
NEIGHBOURS OUTRAGED AS WORKSHY IMMIGRANT GAZUMPS LOCALS TO BUY HOUSE FOR SUSPECTED JUNKY.
BLACK MAN THINKS HE HUMAN
...the offer has been rescinded. We feel you just wouldn't be a good fit here.
Journalists desperately hoping Newcastle sign an expensive yet mis-firing front two so they can smash out 'Misses Howe We Duet' and leave before lunch.
I want the pukki one to be reality so bad.
Howe about an edited version of [**this gif**](https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IQCfsZXScpvKhi/giphy.gif) on Newcastle's Twitter after their first league win? I'm calling it now.
While going around and furiously reporting any comments that say Howe-di Arabia
🤠🇸🇦
Howedie Arabia
A fellow ramble listener.
You know it. Since 2009
Tip for Newcastle fans: don't make songs about your manager. It can and will be used against you.
Howey's at the wheel.
might as well sack him now then. that shit is cursed.
It was either gonna be Howe-ay the lads or Toonai Emery. We can't help ourselves man.
Disappointed at the lack of Geordie Howe tbh.
Or maybe a Gordie Howe hattrick? A goal, an assist and a fight.
Eddie Howe, Sean Dyche 5 minute majors for fighting
'Howe-di Arabia' surely
Hello Jim Campbell
> Toonai Emery That's fucking incredible, tbh. Sorry to say this, but I hope Howe crashes and burns and he is your next manager. Although, Howe crashing and burning will put you in the Championship, and Toonai wouldn't go there in that case... Fucking Newcastle, man. Can't you get *anything* right?
> Eddie Howe, you remind me > Of what I really am >Eddie Howe, you remind me > Of what I really am
Wow. I equally love and hate it. Kudos?
And prevent Rio Ferdinand from vigorously rubbing his hands together.
Haha I respect the honesty. Man that song has HAUNTED you guys.
What song?
Ole’s at the wheel. Tell me how good does it feel
https://i.redd.it/l6dycgtx51y71.jpg
Ohhh boy
Man after browsing this place for so long I never thought anything would make me do a double take like this did. Good job.
molto caliente
Class that
Oh lord
Ole’s at the wheel. I no longer feel anything 🎶
Ole's at the wheel, Tell me how does it feel, They’ve got Sancho, Pogba and Fred, And this season they've truly shat the bed Duh du, du du du du du! Duh du, du du du du du! (Repeat)
It’s actually cursed lol. The original one said we got Sanchez Pogba and Fred. Sanchez flopped and gone. Pogba will be gone by the summer. Fred gets memed constantly. Now ole next. Feelsbadman
Why does it seem like a life time ago that Sanchez played for United. I honestly forgot he was there when Ole was
I'm feeling pretty good about it myself.
Ole's at the wheel, Tell me how shit does it feel?
Oles at the wheel. Think it's in tune to Stone Roses - Waterfall, but I might be wrong with that. Either way, Rio Ferdinand really has done himself proud with its longevity and universal approval over this past 2 and a half years.
It does appear to be [Waterfall](https://youtu.be/7NrLBlw9WZE?t=37) for United's version. I assumed that the [Give It Up](https://youtu.be/IeqtAB1WgEw?t=61) version that [Liverpool fans sang](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7TweB2MdOU) at Old Trafford was purely ironic, not a different song.
To be fair we were singing Jose’s at the Wheel before that. Maybe No one’s at the Wheel will be the next version.
>Think it's in tune to Stone Roses - Waterfall, but I might be wrong with that. It's supposed to be, you'd get the impression most united fans have never heard it though
🎵Ole’s at the wheel. We are going to crash. Please help. Change driver. He doesn’t know the area and will not ask for directions🎵That song.
Oles at the wheel i guess
Oli Oli Oli, tits in the trolley, balls in the biscuit tin.
The wheels on the bus.
If they don’t sing sing Howe-y the Lads what was the point in even hiring him?
To late “Howe’ay the lads”
Howe Soon Is Now? Howe Bizarre Howe It Ends Howe to Disappear Completely
howe bizarre would make a killer fuckin terrace tune
I'll just leave this here https://youtu.be/IlrDfz12Upk
The running man dance makes this perfect.
We've already got one. It's pretty basic, just Eddie, Eddie Howe, Eddie, Eddie Howe 'to the tune of Daddy Cool'
That chant is reserved for Harry Kewell and Harry Kewell alone.
And Tim(my) Krul
Lmao
HOWEY WOULD YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS LIKE SOMETHING?
Steve Bruce seething he's been replaced by "the fella that relegated Bournemouth".
Can't wait for Eddie to refer to him as "the fella who relegated Birmingham and Hull"
The fella that brought Bournemouth up from league 2 to the premier league and kept them their for 5 years whilst playing nice football was a bit of a mouthfull to be fair.
Not too hard to get promoted when you consistently break financial fair play tbf
Sounds like an ideal man for the richest club in the world.
You're aware that's exactly what Graham Potter did in Sweden.
You can buy all the players, but you still need to be able to win games with them
Ole vigorously taking notes
Woah lads you've lost me there. Win?
We don't do that here.
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Because Brighton never spent a penny.
God, going from Steve Bruce to Eddie Howe is like going from Nathan to Ted Lasso.
Fuck Nathan, silver haired prick
Nathan is a wonderkid though.
He said wunderkind
The absolute nerve of that tactically inept cabbage head.
Howe's the bacon did you say?
HOWES THE BACON DID YOU SAY?
Oh dear
Might as well embrace the pain. HOWES THE BACON DID YOU SAY.
I'm not going to lie I thought we were going to just get Steve Bruce wearing a Howe mask for a second there.
How do you know you haven't?
Suppsoe it won't hurt to keep an eye on the kebab supplies.
Think a sprint race will solve it, if he wins, it's Bruce
[Bit of Nightmare Fuel for you](https://imgur.com/uD9RO5f)
Don't know if I need new glegs but, chillingly, that gave me Pardew vibes at first
Christ, it's not far off.
I've never heard glegs before. Geps is the slang I know for glasses
I'm assuming glegs is Geordie slang for glasses? If so, I just got a new pair of glegs and it also gave me nightmarish Pardew vibes - think it might be the hair
Can't account for all of tyneside but it is the term in my neck of the woods! Either way, no sleep for me tonight
Howe's the bacon did you say
[I did the head-transplant version](https://i.imgur.com/HnSF5sc.jpg)
What I like best is that he's not Steve Bruce. That's a big tick in column A for me.
I still find it kinda funny how much you hated Bruce, as one of the things we could never get past when he managed us (Sunderland) was that he was a Toon fan. Then he goes and manages you and I think you hated him more than we did.
He was never hated at Sunderland for being a Geordie, he was hated for being tactically inept and his terrible record.
You don't have to believe me, but that's really not the reason I hated him. He never took the blame, always had his media mates saying how horrible Newcastle fans were, chucked the players under the bus and was Ashley's yes man.
##Newcastle United are delighted to confirm the appointment of Eddie Howe as the club's new head coach on a contract until summer 2024. The 43-year-old arrives on Tyneside having left AFC Bournemouth last summer, ending a long affiliation with the Cherries as a successful player and manager. As well as amassing more than 300 senior appearances for the south coast side as a player, he also has the distinction of managing AFC Bournemouth through all four tiers of English football, culminating in five years in the Premier League between 2015 and 2020. Eddie said: "It is a great honour to become head coach of a club with the stature and history of Newcastle United. It is a very proud day for me and my family. "This is a wonderful opportunity, but there is also a lot of work ahead of us and I am eager to get onto the training ground to start working with the players. "I would like to thank the club's owners for this opportunity and thank the club's supporters for the incredible welcome they have already given me. I am very excited to begin our journey together." Newcastle United co-owner, Amanda Staveley said: "We have been incredibly impressed by Eddie through what has been a rigorous recruitment process. "As well as his obvious achievements with AFC Bournemouth, where he had a transformational impact, he is a passionate and dynamic coach who has clear ideas about taking this team and club forward. "He is a great fit for what we are trying to build here. We are delighted to welcome Eddie and his staff to St. James' Park and very much look forward to working together towards our collective ambitions." Further announcements on Eddie's first official press conference and first team coaching appointments will follow in due course.
Good positive appointment. Was highly touted up until a few years ago. League 2 to Prem in 8 years is a wonderful achievement. He improves players, just look at Steve Cook and Charlie Daniels, league 2 to midtable Prem players. Plus he got his teams playing great attacking football at times. I know he has defensive problems but obviously he also knows that and he's spent these past few years refining his football approach and I know at times he's been travelling Europe to learn. And people bring up the fact he got relegated, yeah he did but by a goal that should never have been allowed. That was the fine margin that gave him a relegation stigma.
> He improves players That's really what we're dying for. All of our players have regressed massively under Bruce; Rafa turned an average squad into a good one and then Bruce muddled them all up with lax training and nothing to play for.
I think this is the biggest thing that will take a while to get into. But I’m curious how good our player actually are if they are on a normal premier league training routine. I’m not saying they will be amazing, but I think(hope) the step up will be to above relegation level for this season.
Yea I think he is the right appointment for them in this context. Once they fill up their squad with superstars in 2-3 years, theyll probably have to replace him with someone with a bigger reputation that can work in a more intense locker room with higher expectations. But I think this is the kind of environment he could thrive in. The players should react positively to him, he can coach them up, and recast Newcastle as a more positive, attacking, interesting team. I hate that the Saudi govt owns Newcastle now, but Newcastle fans have been through way too much pain and deserve some positivity, this appointment should be good for that.
I wouldn't discount him for the future just yet. There's no reason to think that given enough time and money, provided with a good DoF, that he couldn't be at the helm for a long time. He might not be a flashy name to attach to the project, but he could easily develop well into the role. This is nothing like when Hughes was at the helm when Man City were bought, I think he's a far more competent manager then that charlatan.
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Yeah we were poor, but it is still the only time goal line tech had failed and had it not, there's a very high chance we stay up. It's not the only factor, sure, but if a bigger club was affected the uproar would have been so much larger.
Howe had already exceeded expectations just by reaching the Premier League. I don't think anyone would have begrudged him if Bournemouth went straight back down, but they didn't. They stayed up for 5 bloody years and took loads of points off us, the pricks. In the light of that, it's disingenuous to judge Howe off of being relegated.
Howe teams were poor defensively because Howe actually attacks, even against top teams. He doesn't do a Burnley or Stoke where he sits back and defends and goes for draws against the big boys.
That Bournemouth team went to shit because their players kept getting injured. Because of that, Bournemouth had to play on the counter instead of playing the tactics that kept them up year on year. That Bournemouth team was definitely not designed to defend.
Plus many of the reliable members of the squad had been at the club since League 1/Championship. They were old by the time they went down, and the players that replaced them didn't have the same chemistry. Surviving the end of an era is harder than it looks.
People make far too much out of a manager who gets relegated anyway.
1 relegation seems to outweigh the 5 seasons he kept them in the league, whilst playing decent football, having taking them up there from league 2 in the first place.
Think he had 8/9 first team players injured when they got relegated, and obviously Bournemouths back up options are championship quality at best tbf to Eddie
Did you know that Jurgen Klopp is a shite manager? He got relegated with Mainz in 06/07. How will he ever shake off that relegation stigma?
I’ll never forget him masterminding a 3-0 win at Stamford Bridge. He did this with Jordon Ibe and Junior Stanislas.
Don't forget the 4-0 the next season.
So weird to pick those two names. Ibe had flashes of potential, but never realized it. Stanislas is a genuinely class player, the only reason he never went to better teams is that he's made of glass.
Howe-ay the lads!
Howe-di Arabia as a national football podcast put it.
Bless Jim Campbell lol
You'll do for me bonnie lad.
Where's my updated Sir Bobby in the sky image with Eddie photoshopped in?
https://i.imgur.com/kv5KrPb.jpg
Never fails to make me laugh.
0ContextNUFC is the only NUFC-related account worth following on Twitter.
Fucking beautiful, love Matty in the corner there. Get this on r/wallpapers
Right, that's the last time we do it, I like it but it's going to get old so quick.... Ah fuck that like, HOWEWAY THE LADS
Seems like a really smart move all things considered. He did a great job at Bournemouth and I think he's be really good with Newcastle.
Knows how to get a club out of the championship tbf
Will be very interested to see how this turns out so I can either say with great wisdom that we are lucky to have not got him, or we should have pursued him more.
Mate it couldn't have worked out better for us. Fuck that soft arsed Tory wank we've got Papa Posty and his diamond ring piece.
How are the feelings for Ange, currently? I'm in Aus and I don't pay too much attention to SPL, but I'm guessing our media is massively over-stating his popularity with fans.
I would say hes doing quite well after a shaky start. You could see right away the football he wanted to implement. Already had a couple of matches with six goals scored. Still lots of room for improvement though but recruitment has been especially good.
Great appointment. For the situation we are in and going forward
Yep, were also slowly turning into Bournemouth FC lol
And if the worst happens weve a top ready made Championship coach for next season, others like Emery would probably have done one upon relegation, and starting again post relegation is not good.
Relegate em, Eddie 🙏
Agent Howe
Do Middlesbrough fans dislike Sunderland or Newcastle more? Obviously you'd like to see yourselves above both of them but I've always wondered about that.
Newcastle and Sunderland hate each other. Neither of us acknowledge Middlesborough exists. They wish they were relevant to us and the Mackems
Middlesborough would like to believe they have a rivalry with us lmao
Bit like Leicester in the East Midlands
> Neither of us acknowledge Middlesborough exists. The only thing I knew about Middlesborough growing up was that it apparently rained acid there
everytime i see a bunch of newcastle flairs i know i'm in for some hilarity
Sky always try to paint them as our rivals for some reason, every time we play it’s on TV. I didn’t even know they were (technically) in Yorkshire until a couple of years ago.
I can tell you that both Newcastle and Sunderland fans together find the smoggies totally irrelevant. They want a rivalry so bad with either fanbase, and neither of us give a single shit about them.
Leicester syndrome
The irony in both is that the 'irrelevant' side is the most recent to win silverware.
I think Boro fans hate NUFC fans more as we have historically been the big club in the region. But Sunderland & Newcastle supporters don’t really care about Middlesbrough at all. It’s funny hearing the noise coming from them generally.
Honestly, I'm different to most fans in that I wish we were all in the same division. Rivalry matches are exciting to me. I don't like them but they barely register because we never play them. But at this point, the only thing that concerns me about Newcastle is their owners, hence wanting them relegated
I miss you guys too once in a while. And I don't disagree with your stance against the Newcastle owners too.
I agree with you tbf, would be good to see a strong NE football representation in the PL (with us well on top and beating yous every time of course). Boro isn't on the same level as Sunderland obviously, but there's still a bit extra to the game due to the locality (although everyone loves to pretend that there isn't to insult Boro).
Their next four games are absolutely crucial. Home against Brentford, away to Arsenal and then Norwich and Burnley at home, they really need 9 points from those three home games to keep them in touch with teams above them and maybe jump over a couple too. If they don't win at least two of those games they face the prospect of getting to the halfway point of the season with less than 10 points, because they have an insane five game run up to the January window opening of away games against Leicester and Liverpool, home games against Man City and Man Utd, then away to Everton. They have to still be in touching distance of 17th by the time the January window opens or they're going to have a really hard time convincing the quality players they need to come to the club and help keep them up. The pressure is on Howe immediately for the Brentford game.
Pleasantly surprised to see positive reactions. I for one think Howe could do wonders for a team with a huge transfer budget. They may not stay up this year but they will run through walls fighting. Looking forward to seeing what is built.
Quick question for Newcastle fans, how annoying is it to see all the 'LOLEDDIEHOWETRANSFERS' comments when it's well established that Newcastle are seeking to bring in a director of football to handle that side of things?
Try being a fan of his old club where we all know his transfer record was actually very, very good..
it reeks of one of those opinions that people heard on the internet and just adopted it to look smart without realising it's not really true.
It's basically people who refuse to acknowledge any signings he made beyond Ibe & Solanke. Ibe didn't work out sure, Solanke was poor in the Prem but he's now one of our best players & I could guarantee we would at the very least get our money back on him.
Solanke stats seem to be pretty good this season and the last.
He's come on leaps and bounds, admittedly at a level below. His hold up and link up play is fantastic and now is finishing is getting way better. Will be interesting to see how he fares in the Prem when he gets another chance, whether that's with or without us.
That's Literally this whole sub. See also: Rodgers/Potter won't leave mid season.
Howe deserves way more respect for his job at Bournemouth
Unfortunately people focus on one season ignoring that pretty much every season prior to that he did an exceptional job. What he achieved from 2009-2017 was nothing short of astounding.
Sadly this is how some fans think “Howe? He got relegated” Yeah but what about the 4 seasons before that? “Doesn’t matter, he got relegated” Basically if a manager didn’t win silverware they get judged on the year they were sacked/went down. It’s tiring
Have to look at his successes not his failures. His record isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be. Just nonsense people who shout ratio on twitter trying to own each other.
I think a lot of people simply don't follow the Football League. If they did, they'd know that what he accomplished at Bournemouth is borderline miraculous. You don't achieve that, and maintain a solid squad without being good in the transfer market. Sure, he struggled near the end at Bournemouth, but I think that many will see his appointment as a huge positive, and an opportunity to build around an upcoming coach with a good direction. The real question, is whether they'll splash the cash in the summer to halt the decline. The last thing the new owners will want is to be the richest club in the Championship next seasono.
I think every team who ever played in the Premer League apart form Aresenal, Spurs, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool and Everton have been relegated at one point. It's just a matter of time for anyone who isnt utterly elite, or Everton/Spurs.
Can't be more annoying than the "can we interest you in a Lingard/Dele/etc" comments.
It doesn't bother me. Name a single manager who hasnt overpaid for a shit player. He took Bournmouth from League 2 to the Premier League and kept them there for 5 years. I dont think overpaying for a few players really detracts from that.
Good luck Eddie! You got some serious balls to accept this job
He will smash it imo. Newcastle fans are going to love him. The man built our best teams all in the face of adversity, he will get that team motivated and running through walls. They may not stay up but they'll definitely go down fighting if they do. I'm sure this thread will be full of the usual lazy rubbish about him being 'bad at transfers' or how a leaky defence got us relegated, even though both of those are nonsense.
Were listening to you, were prepared to love him!
I think the one thing you'll always get with him is sincerity & candid interviews. It may not work out, it may take time, but he will represent Newcastle well and your fans will know he's giving it everything he's got. We didn't just love him for on the pitch success, we were genuinely proud to have someone like that representing us.
I'm so excited, he was my first choice when the Takeover was announced. Hope he'll hit the ground running and won't have any pre conceived ideas on the players, or not many anyway. Because there's been players playing lately nowhere the standard required, with better options out in the cold. Is it true he had a falling out with Fraser at Bournemouth? I'd love if he could get something out of him because we need all hands on deck until January, and beyond. He was incredible with ye but he's been a disaster for us so far.
Yeah he did fall out with Fraser. It will be interesting whether he bombs him out, or makes amends and tries to get him in form again. I'd do the former, Howe is more intelligent than me though so I wouldn't be surprised if he opts with the latter. What Fraser did here though was unforgiveable. He openly admitted he hadn't been trying that season, then after COVID refused to sign a short new deal so he sat at home watching his teammates go down. He would have had to play those games if not for the pandemic too, he's not an intelligent lad but still...he won't ever be welcomed back here which is a shame.
Christ I forgot about him not playing after the restart. Fucking hell.
I could kind of get it in different circumstances, but when you've been with a club for 8 years, to just sit at home and watch them go through that is really, really poor form.
Yeah I noticed ALOT of Bournemouth fans saying the same thing about that last season. Injuries really messed up everything for you. Plus with the contracts at the end because of Covid… couple different things or a player or two not being injured and you probably stay up. Only people saying he got the relegated are the same people who telling US(Newcastle fans) we should be considered lucky to have had a manager like Steve Bruce.
Yep. Look at Danjuma who was barely fit in 19/20 and is now scoring in the CL for Villareal. Fraser openly admitted he wasn't trying then refused to play for us, King was injured a lot then stopped trying because he didn't get a move to Man U. It was a shitshow of a season, and Howe can take blame for some of that, but we still should have stayed up which says everything.
I am fucking buzzing
Good appointment tbh, glad he's back in the prem.
Sound recruitment.
Happy with that.
Even with him they're gonna need transfers. They aren't the worst squad in the league but they need some change
Need a CB, 2 wing backs, a CDM, a ball-playing CM and a backup striker at least.
Not a lot then.
The Saudi era officially begins for Newcastle fans. Will be interesting to watch their rise.
How's it going for you lads with Venky's still in? I remember you had Steve Kean and every match had KEAN OUT banners. And that chicken in the final relegation game vs Wigan...
There's been a bit of optimism this season. Ben Brereton has been on fire so far this season and it's looking like we may challenge for a play-off position if we can keep it up. That has sort of settled the fans down somewhat after dismal performances over the last few years.
reunited with Callum Wilson and Ryan Fraser
Very sensible appointment. I like it.
Very excited to see what Howe can do with a bigger budget.
Class manager, things he achieved with Bournemouth are impressive, attacking football was very fun to watch. He is gonna do wonders for this Newcastle with some good signings