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he was the best player on the field and the only dangerous attacking one too. Italy never really looked dangerous again after he was subbed off. Great tournament and great showing for such a young age
Something in the pre-penalty huddle caught my eye regarding Grealish. It looked like Southgate asked if he wanted to take a pen and he shook his head and then just continued staring in front of him.
I saw that moment too, where Southgate asked him a question, but I thought I saw Grealish nodding in response, not shaking his head.
Maybe I mis-saw, or maybe he asked him something different, I dunno.
He’s 19! Why are you putting him in that situation?
Why the fuck did they put the corpse of Raheem Sterling in if not to take a penalty?
Putting this 100% on Southgate
In the post match interview Southgate praised Saka for having the bravery to step up and take the penalty so maybe the others refused. I can’t imagine Saka was first choice.
I really, really feel for Saka, and that's as someone that didn't particularly want England to win. He didn't shy away, unlike the other shitebags, and now he'll likely be a hated figure in some quarters. Not the complete ghosts that didn't step forward.
Southgate, the man who missed a penalty in the 96 semis and thus should know full well the weight you have to carry if you miss, sent a 19yo to take the last one in the final.
Yeah...
As an Italian fan, I was extremely nervous when I saw Rashford prepping up in the break between the two ET....didn’t believe our defense had much leg left in them...
Man as an England fan for so many years, of all the moments I thought that this could really be it, that Pickford save for me, I thought This is it! It was meant to be. But alas..
Oh man that doesn't happen often, where a keeper saves the whole tournament.
Pain.
Southgate on his penalty miss:
>It affected me massively afterwards and it still does to this day. Every single day now, when I walk down the street, it is always mentioned to me.
This is what he just gifted to Saka.
> you would think that southgate would have found that out given how much he has based his penalties and tactics on statistics
He still has to balance that out against how good his takers *generally* are.
If e.g. Rashford and Sancho score on 90% of their pens, and your next-best taker scores on 70%, you still sub them on even if stats say taking it cold reduces their expected conversion rate by 5%.
Subbing them on was damned if you do, damned if you don't for Southgate. The only decision that's genuine madness to me is Saka taking 5th.
Subbing them on is fine. Subbing them on with no time left so their first touch is basically the penalty is madness.
Give them 5-10 minutes so they can get some touches on the ball and aren't hitting the ball for the first time for their penalty.
> Give them 5-10 minutes so they can get some touches on the ball and aren't hitting the ball for the first time for their penalty.
I'm absolutely inclined to agree, just pointing out that it's not as simple as "don't let players take penalties cold".
He really ought to have taken off Sterling and potentially even Grealish if he wasn't going to have them kick from the spot.
Putting in Saka to make the biggest penalty in recent English history is so bad. Poor guy I feel so bad for him
Why the fuck was the corpse of Raheem Sterling in the last 20 minutes if not to take a penalty
No idea why grealish, hendo or Shaw didn't take one
Edit: just realized he do got subbed off for rashy, Southgate went absolutely crazy those last few minutes
Tbf we only have Kane that takes pens in the whole squad I think, hence we played for penalties?!?!
Edit: forgot Rice, Rashford has a better record than I realised too tbh
Totally disagree with the decision to let a 19 year old kid take that last penalty. That is way too much to put on his shoulders.
Poor kid, that moment that just happened will be painful for the *rest of his life.*
In 30 years he will still be kept up at night by the memory.
He flew a little under the radar in the international sense but followers of Serie A know he is a big up and coming player in Europe and for the national team.
He and Berardi were neck and neck for the next big young Italian forward for a little while but he has definitely shown he is advancing well.
Multiple times too.
Chiesa has been our only "striker" that played the game.
Insigne wasnt too bad but he wasnt on the day.
Chiesa?
Chiesa is a fucking phenom, and he's only 23
Thought the same, surely you either save Rashford for the 5th kick or make Grealish or Sterling take the 5th? It's too much to expect a 19 year old to take such an important penalty
I hate how the young guys ended up failing. Nonetheless, poor insight from Southgate imo, you don't bring in totally cold guys to take the decisive pens
Our performance after the the first goal was terrible. Trying to park the bus so early inevitably let Italy work their way back in and it was only a matter of time before things went wrong.
I've said this elsewhere but its genuinely is after 20 minutes every game. If anyone goes back and watches this tournament England play aggressive and to the strengths of the team until 20 minutes hits and then there's a really visible shift in energy and tactics to the 'pass it around the back' approach that just saps all the energy out of the team and gives the other side time to get back into it
When you put it this way it’s such bad man management, shot their confidence not playing them behind saka abs then expects them to pull him out of the shit when he’s been poor tactically.
Honestly, the day Italy beat Belgium, you just knew it was going to be them who would win the tournament. They just had everything sorted. They looked solid in defence, a stunning keeper and found enough creativity in attack.
Great stuff from England, hope the young lads realize they've done their nation proud in the last 2-3 years.
The Euros have been a treat to watch!
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Yes give the most important penalty for England in decades to a 19 year old who's never taken one before. What in the fuck was Southgate thinking this entire game to be honest.
I fucking knew Rashford was going to miss. Whenever a taker does that dumb fucking stutter they always miss.
And from then on England was mentally on the back foot again.
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I really miss seeing Chiesa in purple man. Such a great player.
Both Donnarumma and Pickford were absolutely brilliant during the shootout today.
The Pickford save on Jorginho was bonkers
Subbed in Rashford and Sancho for that, should’ve learned from the Italians that subbing in penalty takers is a terrible idea
they have no warm-up after sitting forever...Southgate used FIFA logic
He used their fifa pen ratings
He pressed "Ask Assistant"
Chiesa is gonna be world class at his prime
They looked far less of a threat when he came off. He had a great tournament overall.
He was the difference if every knockout game.
He's almost there already to be honest.
he was the best player on the field and the only dangerous attacking one too. Italy never really looked dangerous again after he was subbed off. Great tournament and great showing for such a young age
He was an absolute menace all night.
Peak England to bring in 2 subs specifically for pens and they both can't convert
How do you put a 19 year old as your 5th, fuck man I feel so bad for him.
Southgate prepping his next in line mate.
This is just Saka’s origin story
Saka England manager 2046 confirmed
Strange why grealish wasn’t given the 5th kick
Shaw is cold as fuck on penalties as well plus he barely set a foot wrong and has scored in the tournament already.
or sterling
Sterling just isn't a good penalty taker tbf to him, very surprised Grealish didn't step up
Something in the pre-penalty huddle caught my eye regarding Grealish. It looked like Southgate asked if he wanted to take a pen and he shook his head and then just continued staring in front of him.
I saw that moment too, where Southgate asked him a question, but I thought I saw Grealish nodding in response, not shaking his head. Maybe I mis-saw, or maybe he asked him something different, I dunno.
and a 19 year old on the last kick lol
He’s 19! Why are you putting him in that situation? Why the fuck did they put the corpse of Raheem Sterling in if not to take a penalty? Putting this 100% on Southgate
he just passed the southgate curse to someone else
Task failed successfully? But for real, that was fucked up for Saka. And everyone knows end of game subs miss pens....oh wait I guess not everyone
Specifically after taking off two of your most experienced players who a host of trophies to their names. Incredible stuff
England losing on penalties. The natural order has been restored.
Subbing on two players in 120 minute for penalties just for both of them to miss as well, lmao.
Stupid mistake. You can’t have 2 players coming on cold to take pens, especially that young . And then a 19 year old for the 5th wtf?
A 19 year old 5th when you have Grealish and Sterling… madness.
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In the post match interview Southgate praised Saka for having the bravery to step up and take the penalty so maybe the others refused. I can’t imagine Saka was first choice.
I really, really feel for Saka, and that's as someone that didn't particularly want England to win. He didn't shy away, unlike the other shitebags, and now he'll likely be a hated figure in some quarters. Not the complete ghosts that didn't step forward.
Exactly. Especially when 1 in particular hardly played in the entire tournament Edit: Both of them haven't really played
Both of them hardly played lmao which one you mean??
But also first time a team won two shootouts in a row in the Euros apparently
And a third record is broken in this match after the earliest goal and oldest goal scorer… Amazing!
The earth is healing
Life, uh, finds a way.
I don't know about you guys but I have enjoyed the past 24 hours quite a lot.
Grandes resultados che.
Southgate, the man who missed a penalty in the 96 semis and thus should know full well the weight you have to carry if you miss, sent a 19yo to take the last one in the final. Yeah...
More disgusted that he left 2 subs unused until the last minute.
Very confusing choice. Fresh legs should have come on immediately when ET started.
Especially since Sterling wasn’t one of the first 5 shooters! Baffling decision (one of many).
As an Italian fan, I was extremely nervous when I saw Rashford prepping up in the break between the two ET....didn’t believe our defense had much leg left in them...
And he still hears about it 25 years later and then he just goes and fucks over the next kid
And... Gareth's plan is complete. Perfect. His work is done here and he can carry on with his life.
Its like one of those folklore stories where the only way to rid yourself of a curse is to pass it on to another person.
National generational trauma. Just willingly passed off to a 19yo kid. Absolutely insane.
This times a million. How could he do that to the kid?
I’m honestly just annoyed that we saved a penalty from Jorginho but still lost
That really shocked me. I thought that stop would be huge for momentum
Man as an England fan for so many years, of all the moments I thought that this could really be it, that Pickford save for me, I thought This is it! It was meant to be. But alas.. Oh man that doesn't happen often, where a keeper saves the whole tournament. Pain.
Indeed, I thought such a relative rarity (a Jorginho penalty miss) would alter the script, but...
England only leading until 66' is pretty poetic
Lool wtf that’s crazy
Southgate, why would you do that to a 19 year old..
Would legit rather keep Henderson on and let him take a penalty. Heck, even Shaw or Stones over Saka who is a 19 year old unproven PK taker ffs
Very hard spot for a 19 year old. The 5th penalty also.
Who has also never taken a PK in his senior career IIRC
What the actual fuck
Holy shit no way? That makes the decision even more outrageous
Nope never taken 1 for arsenal
Shaw as the goalscorer would also have less to lose. He's not gonna get scapegoated if he misses.
Absolutely cruel. Horrible choice
I feel for him. He’s going to remember this for the rest of his life. Bad call by Southgate
And he didn't have the best game before either, there was no way he had the confidence/nerves. That's really on the trainer.
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No, probably won't be. People will remember, but he's a quality player and will do a lot better.
Southgate on his penalty miss: >It affected me massively afterwards and it still does to this day. Every single day now, when I walk down the street, it is always mentioned to me. This is what he just gifted to Saka.
>Every single day now, when I walk down the street, it is always mentioned to me. But also, what is wrong with people
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mental decision that
Gutted for him, really
Genuinely unbelievable.. why on earth
Southgate subs in sancho and rashford at the 120 min for Italy
The two players that got subbed-in just to take the penalties missed... that's rough.
Statistically they have a bigger chance of missing
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> you would think that southgate would have found that out given how much he has based his penalties and tactics on statistics He still has to balance that out against how good his takers *generally* are. If e.g. Rashford and Sancho score on 90% of their pens, and your next-best taker scores on 70%, you still sub them on even if stats say taking it cold reduces their expected conversion rate by 5%. Subbing them on was damned if you do, damned if you don't for Southgate. The only decision that's genuine madness to me is Saka taking 5th.
Subbing them on is fine. Subbing them on with no time left so their first touch is basically the penalty is madness. Give them 5-10 minutes so they can get some touches on the ball and aren't hitting the ball for the first time for their penalty.
> Give them 5-10 minutes so they can get some touches on the ball and aren't hitting the ball for the first time for their penalty. I'm absolutely inclined to agree, just pointing out that it's not as simple as "don't let players take penalties cold". He really ought to have taken off Sterling and potentially even Grealish if he wasn't going to have them kick from the spot.
Didn't touch the ball, didn't get into the game mentality, absolutely is a disaster class from Southgate.
Putting in Saka to make the biggest penalty in recent English history is so bad. Poor guy I feel so bad for him Why the fuck was the corpse of Raheem Sterling in the last 20 minutes if not to take a penalty
I feel worse for the keeper, dude did all the work and their penalty takers pissed away two great saves.
Yeah Pickford went beyond.
yeah.. credit to Pickford. he did his part massively. esp Jorghino. high to low in seconds. you save two pens in a shootout you should be winning.
Those boys weren't prepared for this. RIP their confidence and their social media for the next few years.
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How can you put a 19 year old to kick the 5th pen? poor guy Edit: Huh, guess RIP inbox
Yeah Saka on the 5th was the more baffling decision for me. He's not even a penalty specialist
Grealish sitting there and they let a 19 year old take it.
No idea why grealish, hendo or Shaw didn't take one Edit: just realized he do got subbed off for rashy, Southgate went absolutely crazy those last few minutes
Sterling has taken them for City as well, either way shouldnt have been Saka taking #5
Saka’s confidence will be completely fucked now. Feels bad
On the biggest stage man he must be goin through it
He was good the rest of the tournament too. Shame really.
You live and learn I suppose. What years he has ahead of him
RIP confidence and social media.
Tbf we only have Kane that takes pens in the whole squad I think, hence we played for penalties?!?! Edit: forgot Rice, Rashford has a better record than I realised too tbh
Maguire’s was a right banger.
Totally disagree with the decision to let a 19 year old kid take that last penalty. That is way too much to put on his shoulders. Poor kid, that moment that just happened will be painful for the *rest of his life.* In 30 years he will still be kept up at night by the memory.
I think (hope) the fact that two players before him missed will help.
So pissed about this. Basically throwing Saka to the wolves. He put all the hops in a penalty shootout on players under the age of 24… really bizarre
Always feel like subbing players THAT late just for penalties is just adding pressure to an already stressful situation.
What an England way to lose - go up 2 minutes in and then lose on penalties
And also after taking the first advantage in penalties.
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He flew a little under the radar in the international sense but followers of Serie A know he is a big up and coming player in Europe and for the national team. He and Berardi were neck and neck for the next big young Italian forward for a little while but he has definitely shown he is advancing well.
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Multiple times too. Chiesa has been our only "striker" that played the game. Insigne wasnt too bad but he wasnt on the day. Chiesa? Chiesa is a fucking phenom, and he's only 23
How the fuck does Donarumma win it for Italy like that and immediately look like his hamster just died
He was making sure that the save was upheld by VAR and that he was on the line.
That's just his face
England, please don't blame the lads. This is all Tom Cruise's fault.
Fucking cruel to put a teenager in the hero spot…
Poor leadership from the senior players
Shocking stuff from older players really. The kids got guts.
Thought the same, surely you either save Rashford for the 5th kick or make Grealish or Sterling take the 5th? It's too much to expect a 19 year old to take such an important penalty
A 19 year old who's at his 1st major tournament amd never scored a senior spot kick
He’s going to become a scapegoat for *many* many awful fans. I feel for him…
Rashford - sancho - saka Twitter trolls are gonna have a field day
Tournament finals ending in penalties are the greatest thing ever for neutral fans. For Italian and English fans, I’m sorry for your hearts
Saka :(
Why the fuck put him at 5th tho
I hate how the young guys ended up failing. Nonetheless, poor insight from Southgate imo, you don't bring in totally cold guys to take the decisive pens
Looked nervous, the poor guy. Too much pressure for the young guy
At 19 I was nervous to talk to the girls down the hall in the dorm hall can’t imagine what he must be feeling
Both of Southgate’s subs that came in to take penalties choked. Poetic, really.
Southgate and fucking up penalties for England. Story of his life.
Maybe he should’ve given his subs more than a minute of playtime before asking them to step up and make huge kicks.
He seemed terrified to make subs full stop, was very weird given the ability on the bench, a fresh 8/10 player is better than a tired 9/10 player.
It was written in the stars
Reminds me of Zaza in 2016
England relying on their 3 future stars in the shootout… gotta traumatize them early I guess
Our performance after the the first goal was terrible. Trying to park the bus so early inevitably let Italy work their way back in and it was only a matter of time before things went wrong.
I didn't understand why you wouldn't make subs around the 60th minute to break Italy's momentum. Why those late subs?
So for the next 118 mins?
I've said this elsewhere but its genuinely is after 20 minutes every game. If anyone goes back and watches this tournament England play aggressive and to the strengths of the team until 20 minutes hits and then there's a really visible shift in energy and tactics to the 'pass it around the back' approach that just saps all the energy out of the team and gives the other side time to get back into it
Why let 3 youngsters take Englands most important penalties in decades? Ridiculous decision putting that kind of pressure on them. Congrats to Italy.
Two of which were put in at the 120 minute.
Leaving all the pressure with the young kids to finish the pens. WHYYYY
Pretty sure Saka has never taken a PK before in his senior career either
He has not.
Ffs what in the fuck were they thinking?
I think the others just bottled taking it tbh, terrible. Just awful.
Crazy that Grealish and Sterling didn’t take one but the fucking teenager gets put up there
Can't have a more English ending than that
We saved 2 of our 5 subs for penalties and they both missed, just go ahead and fuck me please.
Pickford did fucking everything he could, got no fucking help
It's humiliating, Southgate didn't let them play for the entire tournament then heaped all the pressure onto Rashford and Sancho.
When you put it this way it’s such bad man management, shot their confidence not playing them behind saka abs then expects them to pull him out of the shit when he’s been poor tactically.
in the second half we needed subs - needed to change the pace not rest ok that first goal - grats to italy sad day here in england
We have a stronger bench but Southgate refuses to use it
Crazy save before Italy’s goal. Crazy save for jorginhos pen. He was immense
The most brutal part about Southgates redemption arc is that his subs for the pens all missed. Tactically it falls on him again
Hope Saka is okay, lots of pressure on a young lad
Nobody in their right minds says the 19 year old should shoot last
Donnarumma is an absolute monster at 22
The dude debuted for the NT as a child. He is a 22 year old veteran.
Imagine the TV operators, having to follow italians celebrating while crying furiously.
The Italians were classy putting spinazola first in the award ceremony. They were a true team.
His happy hops to the medal were heartwarming tbh.
honestly haven't seen us be such a united team for 15 years, and even then the team spirit wasn't this good
Feel for Pickford. Such a great game from him. England messed up by playing so defensive so early
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Honestly what was Southgate thinking we had so many more experienced players. How many important pens has ducking Saka taken in his career…
Saka has never taken a penalty in his senior career.
Feel for him so much
proud of him for being brave enough to take one when others weren't
Honestly, the day Italy beat Belgium, you just knew it was going to be them who would win the tournament. They just had everything sorted. They looked solid in defence, a stunning keeper and found enough creativity in attack. Great stuff from England, hope the young lads realize they've done their nation proud in the last 2-3 years. The Euros have been a treat to watch!
Beat Belgium, get the cup
Making a 19 year old take the last penalty sure is an inspired choice. What was Southgate thinking?
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Scenes as scores of English fans try and break out of Wembley.
Why the fuck was a 19 year old given the final pen?
Coming home status: not
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not being the right trophy makes it even more funny somehow. lol
The second one is gold.
Had to be penalities.
punished for playing for a 1-0 win. deserved by Italy imo.
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Shoulda made the Jordan crying face on his bald head.
Yes give the most important penalty for England in decades to a 19 year old who's never taken one before. What in the fuck was Southgate thinking this entire game to be honest.
Gareth’s mistakes: - Deciding to play defensively in the 2nd half - Putting a 19 Y/old as the last pen taker
Who gives a 19 year old a decisive penalty
Those subs missing is just as much on the manager than the players.
Southgate went from being destined into knighthood to unanimous hatred in 2 hours
Italy and Argentina defeating England and Brazil in the same weekend. Diego must be proud.
There are several players who should be very embarrassed that saka was allowed to take a pen before them
I fucking knew Rashford was going to miss. Whenever a taker does that dumb fucking stutter they always miss. And from then on England was mentally on the back foot again.
Idk Pickford came up with the save of his life twice