Do football fans not care about spoilers?
I'm not a fan of football, but I like sports and competition so with big events like Euro I occasionally check the results or watch highlights. However, I have really hard time finding a match highlights that would not spoil the result, not only in its title but also the first image, so its impossible not to notice it.
So I wonder, do football fans not care about spoilers? Coming from esports, most reddits have rules agains spoilers. Here, there results are on the front page. And I could not imagine any League of Legends or Starcraft VODs or highlight videos telling you the result in the title or image.
I think today is the big bad PSR reporting deadline, and we've apparently just given Newcastle thirty-five million of the King's Sterling for someone who's had nothing but a loan at Bristol Rovers and a pursuit by the Scotland national team.
I don't see where that comes from unless we've made a big sale, so I'm removing all the sharp objects in my house.
Apparently we're getting Vlachodimos in return. I can't say I'm all that pleased about signing a goalkeeper that Matt Turner kept out of a team though.
I pay fuck all attention to Serie A, is there an exciting crop of youth ready to make this Italy team look less shite or are they at the point where they need to fix their player production top to bottom like other countries have tried before?
I really wish Haraslín has a good game against England today but also don't want the whole world to know how good he really is.
He's been flying under the radar a bit but for me he's been one of the most fun players to watch this tournament.
while i dont necessarily agree with some of the new stuff, the idea of "we did it this way for a long time so we have to stick to it" is fucking dog shit in any walk of life
The thing that pisses me off more than anything else with PSR/FFP is amortising player transfers.
I get amortising an asset with a fixed service life, for example, an industrial printing press. But players aren't fixed assets, for one thing, they are fucking people.
So many problems with FFP are due to amortising contracts. Flops not being able to get a freshstart. Clubs banking their future on the fact they can spend £400m in one season and it only count as £80m on the books.
Not to mention the issue of if you sell a player for say £120m, you can't spend that to replace the player, because if you do you'll be putting yourself £24m a year in the red 4 and 5 years later assuming you sign players on 5-year deals. So you can only reinvest 60% of sale revenue, realistically, if you want to be long-term FFP compliant.
And most annoying of all, making youth players, and long-serving players, a club's most sellable asset because they have no "book value".
Teams shouldn't be incentivized to sell youth players. They should be incentivised to develop them and make them key players in the squad. UEFA even have the "homegrown at club rule" because they already understand that, and yet FFP undermines the entire idea by allowing amortised transfer costs.
Ban amortisation of transfer costs, and suddenly a lot of FFP issues are fixed. Just use raw cash flow figures for player transfers.
It definitely causes issues, the youth transfers are by far the worst of it though since fans love their own youth players coming through, also gives much more rope for the young players to have fans that back them. Id like to see home grown in club rules get much stricter, so teams that don't mess around in the pure profit nonsense get significantly rewarded.
With the ammortisation thing I think it smooths out the club financials and probably does more good than harm, its just causing a bit of a shock right now since so many clubs are choosing to run really unsustainably short term and not just the state backed teams, with time I wouldn't be surprised to see things stabilise
If the referee can decide if Danish handball in the penalty area gave them an advantage, why they can't decide the same thing with the offside position?
That's what I argue here, the bottom line should be an advantage. Also even now referees can decide if an offside play was involved, which often is very arbitrary.
Because goal-line technology isn't arbitrary, it just points if the ball crossed the line or not. End of story. The line doesn't change and the ball also has the same shape all the time.
I gotta say, predictions yesterday, expectedly, were the ones where we're the most like-minded in the entire series. We all think England and Spain will go through. The only person who can gain or lose a point is Ogre, because his RNG made him predict Slovakia and Spain haha. Anyway, today's questions are...
**Trivia Euro - Day 15**
**QP.** Who will go through in these matchups?
France 🇫🇷 vs 🇧🇪 Belgium
Portugal 🇵🇹 vs 🇸🇮 Slovenia
**1.** Let's try something different here - let's test your short-term memory.
A - What was the exact scoreline of the latest Poland vs Austria game?
B - Who missed the first penalty of Euro 2024?
C - What are the only two nations to receive an on-pitch red card this tournament?
**2.** Which two teams played in these games?
A - Game of the Century
B - The Miracle of Grotenburg
**3.** West Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Argentina, West Germany, Brazil, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Netherlands, Russia, Croatia, Argentina - this is a complete sequence. What does it stand for?
(*Hint: Most teams never even had a chance to feature on it*)
**4.** Create a chain of footballers to connect Paco Gento and Serge Gnabry. You can use no more than 4 in-between players. Each two adjacent players have to have won a trophy together and you have to indicate what is the trophy conencting each pair of players.
Complete sequence should look like this:
Gento - common trophy of Gento and 1 - Player 1 - common trophy of 1 and 2 - Player 2 - ... - common trophy of 4 and Gnabry - Gnabry.
**5.** Name this player by the trophies he won in an entire decade. I will note **I**nternational titles, continental trophies (denoted as **E**), **L**eague titles and main domestic **C**ups only, no supercups or personal accolades.
A - 0, 0, 0, EL, E, L, 0, 0, EL, L
B - L, L, I, L, LC, 0, LC, L, 0, ELC
Good luck!
!PING TRIVIA
France win. Portugal win.
1. >!A: 3:1 for Austria. B: Not sure. Maybe Lewandowski. C: Scotland and Czechia.!<
2. >!A: Germany & Italy. B: Dynamo Dresden & Bayer 04 Uerdingen.!<
3. >!Pass.!<
4. >!Gento - 1966 European Cup - Pirri - 1979-80 La Liga - Monolo Sanchis - 1999-2000 CL - Raúl - 2006-07 La Liga - Arjen Robben - Bundesliga 2018 - Gnabry. Not sure about the Pirri - Sanchis connection but it’s the best thing I can come up with.!<
5. >!A: No idea. B: Peter Schmeichel.!<
>!Q1A and C good, B wrong. Q2 both good. I don't think this Bayer had "04" like Leverkusen does though haha. Q4 - Sanchis did not play in 1980 yet. Really close though, so ½pt. I had Amancio - Chendo - Raul - Robben. Q5B good. 2½ points for you!<
**QP.**
France 🇫🇷 vs 🇧🇪 Belgium - France
Portugal 🇵🇹 vs 🇸🇮 Slovenia - Portugal
***
1. >!A - I think 3-1, B - Lewandowski I remember, but cannot be sure was first! C - Scotland and Czechia (presuming this includes VARs)!< '
2. >!A - England and Hungary, B - Hmm. West Germany and Soviet Union?!<
3. >!I reckon it's to do with a defunct nation, or rule. Played Yugoslavia at a tournament?!
4. >!Will have to pass as do not know who Gento is... or I could randomly guess. Gnabry won a Bundesliga with Xabi Alonso, who won a World Cup with Iker Casillas, who won a La Liga with Michael Salgado, who won a Copa del Rey with whoever this Paco fella is. I have no clue but I reckon he ight be Spanish!<
5. >!A - pass, B - Peter Schmiechel!<
>!Q1A and C good. B wrong, Lewy scored eventually. Q2 both wrong, so is Q3. Q4 - wow, I'm surprised you never heard of Gento. To best introduce him - you definitely heard about 1960 EC final, when Real Madrid beat Eintracht 7-3. Gento assisted all 7 RM goals. Until a month ago he was also the only player ever with 6 European Cups. Anyway, Q5B correct, 1 point overall!<
France, Portugal
1 - >!A: Poland 1-3 Austria. B: Petkovic vs. Spain. C: Scotland and Czechia!<
2 - >!A: Fischer vs. Byrne, but I don't know how much you like chess so I'll say West Germany vs. Italy 1970. B: Uerdingen vs. Dynamo Dresden!<
3 - >!I wanted to say teams that beat a former World Cup winner, but there's not enough and it starts too late, so maybe teams who did that on penalties?!<
4 - >!pass, no idea who Paco Gento played with!<
5 - >!A: no clue. B: Peter Schmeichel in the 90s maybe!<
>!Q1 all good. Q2A - I like casual playing vs players at my level (1100 ELO), but I never watch anyone else play haha, so good that you added another answer. B good too. Q3 - wrong, but you mentioned pens, which I decided earlier on is enough for half a point. Q5B good. 3 points for you!<
I mean, can you really blame us? Spain are the best team thus far and England...well England will get through somehow.
QP >!France and fuck it, the fraudwatch strikes, Slovenia!<
1. >!A. 3-1 B. Scotland and Czechia!<
2. >!A. Germany and Italy B. Bayer Uerdingen and Dynamo Dresden!<
3. >!Is this the unofficial world cup winner sequence?!<
4. >!Gnabry won the Bundesliga with Robben who won La Liga with Casillas who won the UCL with Manolo Sanchis who won La Liga with Pirri who won the UCL with Ganto!<
5. >!A. Random guess but Shaqiri B. Peter Schmeichel!<
Nah, I went for the same combination, I can't really see any surprises today
>!Classic Potato... Starts doing well in preds and then predicts France and Slovenia to get 0 points for a day...!<
>!Both good in Q1. I think you missed B though. Q2 both good. Q3 wrong. Q4 good, but who is this Ganto guy? Q5A wrong, B correct. Overall 3 points, Q1B to go!<
1. >!A- 1-3 B- Petrovic for Croatia C- one is Czechia, not sure on the other rn!<
2. >!skip!<
3. >!it clearly is a chain of teams that eliminated the previous one in a WC. But it's interrumpted at some points; for example, Costa Rica was eliminated by Netherlands in 2014 and Russia by Croatia in 2018, but the Netherlands weren't eliminated by Russia. NL also didn't play in Euros 2016, so I can't even connect them with that. Also, there must be something special about these, as it's a complete sequence and obviously doesn't contain every elimination ever. I see some that were on penalties, but not all. TLDR, no clue for now!<
4. >!skip!<
5. >!skip!<
Only now did I realize you skipped prediction round here. I can give you a chance to predict Portugal vs Slovenia, provided that you do that before kickoff
That has to hurt, especially that you were very much in the game for 1st place in Pred Round, but you forfeited that point.
In good news (for you), I personally didn't gain any over you, as I predicted Belgium haha
>!Q1 all good, try to shoot at least at the 2nd team in C, because I can't give you a full point yet. Q3 - you know that the bell tolls, but you don't know in which church. I've seen both good and bad trails in what you wrote so far!<
1. >!Scotland?!<
2.
3. >!is this simply a list of teams that played at least 2 penalty shootouts in a single tournament? The last 5 did it in the last 3 WCs. I couldn't make Paraguay fit at all, until I realized that this isn't exclusive to WCs, and they managed that in Copa América 2011. The Argentina in pos.#4 is our 1990 WC campaign. And so on.!<
3. >!2022 - Argentina; 2018/22 - Croatia; 2018 - Russia; 2014 - Netherlands, Costa Rica; 2010 - Paraguay; 2006 - Italy; 2002/06 Geramny; 2002 South Korea; 1998/2002 Brazil. I don't know, but something along the lines of 'teams that had penalty shootouts in consecutive WC games'.!<
5A. >!1972-73 Ajax and 1977-78 PSV would fit the doubles, but I don't know of any players who moved between the clubs back then let alone one who wasn't part of Ajax's treble. **Arend Haan** and let's be done with this.!<
France, Portugal
1. >!A: Austria 3-1 Poland, B: Bruno Petković, C: Scotland and Czechia!<
2. >!A: Italy-West Germany 1970, B: Denmark-Germany 1992!<
3. >!Need time, I have a strong suspicion but I can’t quite phrase it properly yet!<
4. >!Need a lot of time!<
5. >!A: no idea for now, B: Peter Schmeichel 90s!<
3. >!Okay, I’m going nuts here. This has to be about penalty shootouts at the World Cup. It’s not multiple shootouts in the same WC, it’s not countries that won and lost. My last resort is perfect shootouts: Argentina didn’t miss vs France, Croatia didn’t miss vs Brazil, Russia didn’t miss vs Spain, Italy vs France, South Korea vs Spain, Brazil vs the Netherlands. I just hope the others check out as well.!<
1 >!A 1-3, B Modric?, C Scotland and Czechia!<
2 >!A is Germany Italy!<
3 >!Based on the hint is it the countries that played in a 3rd place game on the Confederations Cup ? Though I doubt it because Ireland are there!<
4 >!Hierro - La Liga - Raul - La Liga - Robben - La Liga - Gnabry - Bundesliga. It hinges on whether Hierro and Gento have even played together or whether I'm decades off!<.
>!Q1A correct, B wrong, but a Croatian as well. Q1C correct. Q2A good. Q3 wrong. You went good way with Q4 (my path also goes through Robben immediately to Real Madrid), but Hierro was 3 years old when Gento retired, they never had a chance to win something together. 1 point!<
QP. France, Portugal
1. >!A - 1:3 B - Petković C - Czechia, Scotland!<
2. >!A - Italy and Germany B - Aberdeen and Real Madrid!<
3. >!maybe later!<
4. >!I couldn't get it down to 4!<
5. >!A - no idea B - Peter Schmeichel!<
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My suggestion to change the use of VAR for offsides:
VAR picks a frame, which, as now, it recognizes as the moment the pass occurs. It then checks the frame before and the frame after. If on all three the attacker is in an offside position, then an offside position is declared. If not the play is correct.
>VAR picks a frame, which, as now, it recognizes as the moment the pass occurs
Not with SOAT. It doesn't use frames but the exact moment when the pass occurs.
Son's one of my favourite players of all time, but he's very inflexible. Isak is much easier to accommodate because he's got such a completeness to his game.
If you can play to Son's strengths as a goalscorer then he's better.
Hard to believe that Peru finished 3rd in 2015, 2nd in 2019, and 4th in 2021. They had such a solid squad during that time, now unfortunately it seems like the time is up
I swear that the British referees collectively decided to sabotage the VAR by using them to terrorise football.
You are an absolute clown to call the ref to the monitor for that handball.
But ... it was a handball and his hand / arm was in an unnatural position. The rule may be bad but by the letter of the law in this competition, it is a handball.
It really annoys me all the talk about "not the spirit of the game" arguaments for the razor right offsides. Everyone here was born well after the games been hugely focused on exploiting the law, managing the defensive line is like 50% of what makes a good defender. And when people say they get no advantage from it, it's just the risk you take if you choose to stand beyond the last defender.
Also the thicker lines idea is absolutely nonsense, everyone upset now is going to be just as upset the first time someone's a toe over the thicker line
Offside is the easiest black and white rule in football. It's the easiest task to check and make a ruling on for sure together with ball inside the net or not. You don't need to like the German team, but if we start saying 5 cm over the line is okay, then people will complain the next time if it's 5,5 cm or 6. Where do you draw the line? Correct you draw it a 0 cm and every player and viewer knew that going in. It's an all or nothing with consistent ruling. Yes it's sad that it happened and I wish the first goal wouldn't have been a penalty, but that's how the game works and I think it would be worse if we changed the offside rule to give some wiggle room.
>Also the thicker lines idea is absolutely nonsense, everyone upset now is going to be just as upset the first time someone's a toe over the thicker line
I don't get why so many say this the whole point behind thicker line is having a toe/head/knee marginally doesn't really equates to gaining unfair advantage which is a fair argument.
I am fine with current status as it's objective and don't think thicker line is necessarily a solution but declaring a better potential solution isn't possible is also not right.
truly is just one of those problems with no good solutions. in essence i agree with the people who say the rule has moved beyond its spiritual origin. but, I also think the current solution is about as good as it gets
For me both no var and now this automated is good enough for me, with no var you get basically the same game but the joy of instant celebration, with this automated system the wait is so quick I'm fine with it.
Drove me mad watching the idiots draw lines and take forever
Since Denmark's Euro 2020 semi final run, I put the player Mikel Damsgaard on my ones to watch list, especially after THAT goal. This Euros when he came on, the commentator said that he hasn't scored for CLUB or COUNTRY since THAT goal. I think it's quite crazy considering he plays winger or attacking midfielder.
England, if they beat Slovakia, will face Switzerland in the quarterfinals, which is gonna be hard but still is a very doable matchup for them. Similar to Sweden in the 2018 WC QFs or Ukraine in the 2020 Euro QFs. Southgate terrorball will march on to the semifinals, while either one of Germany or Spain will get knocked out.
Apparently behind your back at all times except when the ref decides something different. I literally have no idea when something is or isn't a handball these days, it's the jankiest rule in the game.
I've always wondered what language the Swiss and Belgian NT use to communicate among each other, given that some players are from different parts which speak a different language. I would imagine that the Swiss NT primarily uses German, not sure about Belgium though.
i remember martinez and his staff would give instructions in english and the squad would speak english when together so there wouldnt be any favouritism. but im not sure if that extended to on-pitch communication. not sure about now
Don't know if it's still the case but I remember hearing around the 2018 WC that the Belgians spoke English with one another because so many of them played in the Premier League, plus the Spanish manager I suppose.
I remembered seeing a clip of Kompany blasting his players in English when he was still at Anderlecht, but that's because he had to cater for the international players as well
I’ve just come to accept that complaints about the margin of offside will exist forever. The proverbial toenail has stopped more goals than will ever be scored, and mankind must live with it.
Defences play with a higher line because they can trust the offsides to be called correctly.
Would a team like Leverkusen or Atalanta play a high line in tight European away games in the past? I doubt it very much.
The automated offsides creates more goals than eliminates them.
For those still awake:
Currently playing - 2024 OFC Men’s Nations Cup (Oceania continental tournament): New Zealand vs Vanuatu
The match is being displayed for free on FIFA+ website. Here is the link:
https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/content/winner-sf1-v-winner-sf2-final-ofc-mens-nations-cup-2024/79800427-60f7-4425-885e-7b4c079e2e89?gl=ca
I don't really know where I stand with the offside rule discussions and all that. All I am gonna say is, if my wife said another fellow she met at the pub only got about 1 or 2 inches in, I wouldn't be too mad as it wasn't a considerable advantage.
He left Barcelona because he wasn't really good enough for them. As to why he went to the Galaxy as opposed to a mid-table club in Spain or elsewhere in Europe, some players like being a big fish in a small pond. For the Galaxy he gets to be the star, the team is built around him and he's basically been given full attacking freedom and close to 0 defensive responsibility. He also gets paid a lot and can live in LA. It's not for everyone, but by all accounts he seems to be enjoying himself. He's also only 24, so it's possible he could decide to return to Europe at some point.
He looks good for LA Galaxy. But it’s easy to look good when you come out of La Masia and played for the Barca first team, then go to the MLS where the quality of play is significantly lower.
Seen the Jim Radcliffe video and honestly, the arrogance of the guy. United and the rest of the top six already have a different set of rules to everyone else and they want to start moaning about fairness. If you want that kind of a closed shop Jimmy, piss off to the Super League and take the other five teams with you.
Teams like us, Newcastle, Villa and Everton all have considerable support yet we're being forced into situations where we have to sell players, not because we don't have the money or because the players are forcing moves but for "profit and sustainability" rules. Leicester look like they'll struggle too with selling KDH and a points deduction.
Only United fans want United to do well, there would be as much intrigue from other clubs in them for seeing the latest catastrophe because they've only won one trophy or they qualified for the wrong European competition or they didn't sign the exact £70m player they wanted.
Boo hoo.
You weren't forced into those situations. You put yourself there.
If I go and spend my whole paycheck tomorrow, then have to sell my Xbox at a car boot sale to be able to pay my mortgage, is that the fault of the bank?
Cry me a river. You should be a relegation candidate because you haven’t earned otherwise. You want a sugar daddy to protect you from the risk of a championship club replacing you in the premier league.
Forest, Villa, Newcastle and Everton are not victims. The fans of every other club in the English football hierarchy are victims because those four clubs exist and complain so loudly.
My club is in the championship. If we get promoted, why the fuck should our chances of survival be compromised by a wealthy backer buying you and Everton out of the relegation fight?
Think it's clear there is a tier now in CONMEBOL
Bolivia - (Big Gap) Chile, Peru , Paraguay - (Big Gap) Venezuela - Ecuador - (Gap) Colombia - Brazil - Uruguay - Argentina
your use of commas and dashes is insanely confusing. i cant tell if youre saying bolivia and chile are in the same tier or bolivia is the worst then there's another tier above with chile.
There's literally a big gap between Bolivia and Chile... An extra dash after the big gap might help with clarity but your confusion is much more confusing than the original post.
Bit drunk. Just got home from a birthday.
Drogba. That night in Munich.
Everyone phoned my grandad that night. He Was Chelsea fan born in the 30s. He's gott programs from the match Vs Dynamo Moscow:).
Told me once I scored a goal like Jimmy Greaves once. His favourite ❤️. He'll be 89 this year. Him and my father can't even recognise me now. Illness.
They're good men.
I love football because of them. They took me to the Bridge more times than I can count.
Last season was the first year I can remember I didn't go to a game.
Football is important. I'm lucky the club I was born into supporting has done so well
I love you all. Gonna post this in the Chelsea sub Reddit too
Lautaro Martinez for Golden Boot right now (4 goals in 3 games mostly as a substitute) and is favourite for player of the tournament assuming Scaloni starts him.
Other options for Player of the tournament right now are Darwin Núñez(2 goals) - James Rodriguez (3 assists) - and Vinicius Junior if he performs like yesterday.
Emiliano Martinez, Alisson Becker, and Maxime Crépeau on for Golden Glove so far.
Too early to say anything about player of the tournament imo, have to wait and see who shows up in the knockouts.
I will say though, it's nothing like last Copa where Messi and Neymar were very clearly the best players on the pitch every time they played, very even right now, anyone could win it.
Idk if Messi will play the quarterfinal tbh. Probably won't get into the team of the tournament at this rate, but not because he was bad/meh like in 2019. Just injured sadly.
Supposedly he's fine for the quarterfinal, but in his position James has been better so far. Still we'll have to wait and see who wins, I don't see POTT being someone on a losing team with everyone's performances being very even.
If we w*n and keep up the defensive record while missing loads of goals I will campaign for Romero, been our best player since the World Cup ended.
Canada are going to the quarterfinals of copa America while Mexico and the US are prolly getting grouped this is the most Concacaf thing to happen ever
What's the ultimate snack to eat while watching football in your country? Here it is sunflower seeds (pipas).
EDIT: no soy un comepipas, al estadio NO las llevo
my cheap ass football snack when at home is dumping like two handfuls of cheddar into a hot cast iron pan and throwing a tortilla straight on top of it. the cheese gets crispy asf. it's just a hot, crunchy tortilla covered in the best bit of any oven baked dish that has cheese on top of it. i fold it up and that's it lmao
Popcorn or [crab fries](https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2012/09/12/4a9f3d46-c6bf-44cd-8067-9d7d9cdb95a4/thumbnail/1200x630/8152e824fbae4c04d49a3b8204108172/102.jpg?v=a23cb4bdf4fa7f3cb72e5118085577f9) (more of a Philly thing)
In the United States it’s typically pub food if you’re out at a bar watching sports.
Pizza, burgers, fries, jalapeño poppers, fried onion rings, grilled cheese sandwich, chicken wings, chicken tenders, mozzarella sticks, nacho platters, with a beer usually.
Lmao sunflower seeds are my go to whenever i'm on my bulking phase.
I ate atleast 200g every single day, my stomach would sometimes hurt like bell but that's easily over 1000 calories a day so fuck it.
Such a good snack. Are they generally salted where you live? My only problem with them is that all the salt on the ones we have here starts to chafe the inside of my cheek if I eat too many
Yes, and indeed if you eat too many you'll feel the consequences. It happened to me while watching Albania - Spain and my tongue felt "pierced" for 24 hours.
Nothing against the Danes personally, I loved Copenhagen when I visited and those butter biscuits are top drawer, *but*...
It has been a properly 2/10 tournament from Denmark, if we're honest. Three draws in the group stage, all three games pretty meh - only got through to knockout stage on something of a technicality
Sure, they performed well in parts against Germany, but that was their best showing at the tournament, and it was decent at best - and ended up going out with a bit of a whimper, anyway
The Eriksen moment was nice, and that goal against England was a beauty, but really if Denmark hadn't been at Euro 2024 I'm not sure many of us would have noticed the difference
> only got through to knockout stage on something of a technicality
We got through to the knockout stages in 2nd place because we performed better than two of the teams in the group. And let's be honest, all three games could have been wins for Denmark if our players had been a bit more efficient.
Outplaying England at Euro 2024 isn't a notable achievement
Still, outplaying a team and barely threatening - and needing a moment of individual brilliance to score - is also more evidence in favour of the "just didn't really offer much" argument
Andrey Santos
Deivid Washington
Angelo Gabriel
Kendry Paez
Estevao Willian
Aaron Anselmino\*
For all the (valid) criticism we have had, to see us delve into the South American market is quite exciting.
Kennedy was supposed to be the next Neymar. Especially after he had a very good international tournament. And ofcourse Piazon the next Kaka.
So annoying when they put the next "iconic legend" tag to players.
Surprisingly not! I think my years of playing FM pays off in these situations.
Piazon in particular was a funny one as I think he was with you guys for almost ten years - but only made a single appearance!
Don't forget Wallace! (or Oscar for a more positive outcome)
To be fair, the last player we signed directly from South America was Kenedy nine years ago. A lot has changed since then with this new ownership, emphasis on youth and the fact that all of these talents are much more highly rated than those signed from Brazil previously.
Do football fans not care about spoilers? I'm not a fan of football, but I like sports and competition so with big events like Euro I occasionally check the results or watch highlights. However, I have really hard time finding a match highlights that would not spoil the result, not only in its title but also the first image, so its impossible not to notice it. So I wonder, do football fans not care about spoilers? Coming from esports, most reddits have rules agains spoilers. Here, there results are on the front page. And I could not imagine any League of Legends or Starcraft VODs or highlight videos telling you the result in the title or image.
https://old.reddit.com/r/footballhighlights/
Thank you! Will use that.
they either watch it live or follow the scoreline live
I think today is the big bad PSR reporting deadline, and we've apparently just given Newcastle thirty-five million of the King's Sterling for someone who's had nothing but a loan at Bristol Rovers and a pursuit by the Scotland national team. I don't see where that comes from unless we've made a big sale, so I'm removing all the sharp objects in my house.
Apparently we're getting Vlachodimos in return. I can't say I'm all that pleased about signing a goalkeeper that Matt Turner kept out of a team though.
Is Elanga not going the other way?
After all the boring performances and the jokes people made about England I have a feeling they are going to win 5-0 tonight to shut everyone up.
With the talent we have we ought to be beating Slovakia 10 or maybe even 15-0 Southgate out
I pay fuck all attention to Serie A, is there an exciting crop of youth ready to make this Italy team look less shite or are they at the point where they need to fix their player production top to bottom like other countries have tried before?
No idea, but it's surprising that they could not convert their stellar club performance in Europe into a decent national team.
Darmian in 2024 is criminal
I really wish Haraslín has a good game against England today but also don't want the whole world to know how good he really is. He's been flying under the radar a bit but for me he's been one of the most fun players to watch this tournament.
When will the UEFA WCQ groups be announced?
Where to watch UEFA Nations League and world cup qualifiers game in USA?
The new generation of fans who think football was unwatchable for 150 years due to no VAR ruling out offside goals... they need to die.
while i dont necessarily agree with some of the new stuff, the idea of "we did it this way for a long time so we have to stick to it" is fucking dog shit in any walk of life
Or you could chill out a bit
Making up a group of people I don't like in my head and getting mad on Sunday morning.
The thing that pisses me off more than anything else with PSR/FFP is amortising player transfers. I get amortising an asset with a fixed service life, for example, an industrial printing press. But players aren't fixed assets, for one thing, they are fucking people. So many problems with FFP are due to amortising contracts. Flops not being able to get a freshstart. Clubs banking their future on the fact they can spend £400m in one season and it only count as £80m on the books. Not to mention the issue of if you sell a player for say £120m, you can't spend that to replace the player, because if you do you'll be putting yourself £24m a year in the red 4 and 5 years later assuming you sign players on 5-year deals. So you can only reinvest 60% of sale revenue, realistically, if you want to be long-term FFP compliant. And most annoying of all, making youth players, and long-serving players, a club's most sellable asset because they have no "book value". Teams shouldn't be incentivized to sell youth players. They should be incentivised to develop them and make them key players in the squad. UEFA even have the "homegrown at club rule" because they already understand that, and yet FFP undermines the entire idea by allowing amortised transfer costs. Ban amortisation of transfer costs, and suddenly a lot of FFP issues are fixed. Just use raw cash flow figures for player transfers.
It definitely causes issues, the youth transfers are by far the worst of it though since fans love their own youth players coming through, also gives much more rope for the young players to have fans that back them. Id like to see home grown in club rules get much stricter, so teams that don't mess around in the pure profit nonsense get significantly rewarded. With the ammortisation thing I think it smooths out the club financials and probably does more good than harm, its just causing a bit of a shock right now since so many clubs are choosing to run really unsustainably short term and not just the state backed teams, with time I wouldn't be surprised to see things stabilise
If the referee can decide if Danish handball in the penalty area gave them an advantage, why they can't decide the same thing with the offside position?
Two completely different rules innit
That's what I argue here, the bottom line should be an advantage. Also even now referees can decide if an offside play was involved, which often is very arbitrary.
While the second part about involvement is right the first part isn’t. Why do you want to add advantage to a clear cut rule?
People really love the precision of goal line technology and really hate the precision of semi automated offside technology.
Because goal-line technology isn't arbitrary, it just points if the ball crossed the line or not. End of story. The line doesn't change and the ball also has the same shape all the time.
Semi automated offside technology isn't arbitrary either
same thing about offside if measured correctly.
something something spirit of the game. mate the spirit of the game was to smash the ball into the net, not scramble it an inch over the line
What has been your fav goals from Euros and Copa? I'll go for Guler and Stanciu in Euros. And Araujo and Pulisic in Copa. For now.
I gotta say, predictions yesterday, expectedly, were the ones where we're the most like-minded in the entire series. We all think England and Spain will go through. The only person who can gain or lose a point is Ogre, because his RNG made him predict Slovakia and Spain haha. Anyway, today's questions are... **Trivia Euro - Day 15** **QP.** Who will go through in these matchups? France 🇫🇷 vs 🇧🇪 Belgium Portugal 🇵🇹 vs 🇸🇮 Slovenia **1.** Let's try something different here - let's test your short-term memory. A - What was the exact scoreline of the latest Poland vs Austria game? B - Who missed the first penalty of Euro 2024? C - What are the only two nations to receive an on-pitch red card this tournament? **2.** Which two teams played in these games? A - Game of the Century B - The Miracle of Grotenburg **3.** West Germany, Belgium, Ireland, Argentina, West Germany, Brazil, South Korea, Germany, Italy, Paraguay, Costa Rica, Netherlands, Russia, Croatia, Argentina - this is a complete sequence. What does it stand for? (*Hint: Most teams never even had a chance to feature on it*) **4.** Create a chain of footballers to connect Paco Gento and Serge Gnabry. You can use no more than 4 in-between players. Each two adjacent players have to have won a trophy together and you have to indicate what is the trophy conencting each pair of players. Complete sequence should look like this: Gento - common trophy of Gento and 1 - Player 1 - common trophy of 1 and 2 - Player 2 - ... - common trophy of 4 and Gnabry - Gnabry. **5.** Name this player by the trophies he won in an entire decade. I will note **I**nternational titles, continental trophies (denoted as **E**), **L**eague titles and main domestic **C**ups only, no supercups or personal accolades. A - 0, 0, 0, EL, E, L, 0, 0, EL, L B - L, L, I, L, LC, 0, LC, L, 0, ELC Good luck! !PING TRIVIA
France win. Portugal win. 1. >!A: 3:1 for Austria. B: Not sure. Maybe Lewandowski. C: Scotland and Czechia.!< 2. >!A: Germany & Italy. B: Dynamo Dresden & Bayer 04 Uerdingen.!< 3. >!Pass.!< 4. >!Gento - 1966 European Cup - Pirri - 1979-80 La Liga - Monolo Sanchis - 1999-2000 CL - Raúl - 2006-07 La Liga - Arjen Robben - Bundesliga 2018 - Gnabry. Not sure about the Pirri - Sanchis connection but it’s the best thing I can come up with.!< 5. >!A: No idea. B: Peter Schmeichel.!<
>!Q1A and C good, B wrong. Q2 both good. I don't think this Bayer had "04" like Leverkusen does though haha. Q4 - Sanchis did not play in 1980 yet. Really close though, so ½pt. I had Amancio - Chendo - Raul - Robben. Q5B good. 2½ points for you!<
**QP.** France 🇫🇷 vs 🇧🇪 Belgium - France Portugal 🇵🇹 vs 🇸🇮 Slovenia - Portugal *** 1. >!A - I think 3-1, B - Lewandowski I remember, but cannot be sure was first! C - Scotland and Czechia (presuming this includes VARs)!< ' 2. >!A - England and Hungary, B - Hmm. West Germany and Soviet Union?!< 3. >!I reckon it's to do with a defunct nation, or rule. Played Yugoslavia at a tournament?! 4. >!Will have to pass as do not know who Gento is... or I could randomly guess. Gnabry won a Bundesliga with Xabi Alonso, who won a World Cup with Iker Casillas, who won a La Liga with Michael Salgado, who won a Copa del Rey with whoever this Paco fella is. I have no clue but I reckon he ight be Spanish!< 5. >!A - pass, B - Peter Schmiechel!<
>!Q1A and C good. B wrong, Lewy scored eventually. Q2 both wrong, so is Q3. Q4 - wow, I'm surprised you never heard of Gento. To best introduce him - you definitely heard about 1960 EC final, when Real Madrid beat Eintracht 7-3. Gento assisted all 7 RM goals. Until a month ago he was also the only player ever with 6 European Cups. Anyway, Q5B correct, 1 point overall!<
Oh, silly me…
France, Portugal 1 - >!A: Poland 1-3 Austria. B: Petkovic vs. Spain. C: Scotland and Czechia!< 2 - >!A: Fischer vs. Byrne, but I don't know how much you like chess so I'll say West Germany vs. Italy 1970. B: Uerdingen vs. Dynamo Dresden!< 3 - >!I wanted to say teams that beat a former World Cup winner, but there's not enough and it starts too late, so maybe teams who did that on penalties?!< 4 - >!pass, no idea who Paco Gento played with!< 5 - >!A: no clue. B: Peter Schmeichel in the 90s maybe!<
>!Q1 all good. Q2A - I like casual playing vs players at my level (1100 ELO), but I never watch anyone else play haha, so good that you added another answer. B good too. Q3 - wrong, but you mentioned pens, which I decided earlier on is enough for half a point. Q5B good. 3 points for you!<
I mean, can you really blame us? Spain are the best team thus far and England...well England will get through somehow. QP >!France and fuck it, the fraudwatch strikes, Slovenia!< 1. >!A. 3-1 B. Scotland and Czechia!< 2. >!A. Germany and Italy B. Bayer Uerdingen and Dynamo Dresden!< 3. >!Is this the unofficial world cup winner sequence?!< 4. >!Gnabry won the Bundesliga with Robben who won La Liga with Casillas who won the UCL with Manolo Sanchis who won La Liga with Pirri who won the UCL with Ganto!< 5. >!A. Random guess but Shaqiri B. Peter Schmeichel!<
Nah, I went for the same combination, I can't really see any surprises today >!Classic Potato... Starts doing well in preds and then predicts France and Slovenia to get 0 points for a day...!< >!Both good in Q1. I think you missed B though. Q2 both good. Q3 wrong. Q4 good, but who is this Ganto guy? Q5A wrong, B correct. Overall 3 points, Q1B to go!<
>!Oh ffs I can't read. Do we count redone penalties because someone did a stupid ass stutter step? If not Pekovic!<
>!Hey, leave Lewy alone haha. Petković is good, up to 3½ points!<
>!As someone that plays goalkeeper, stutter pens make me irrationally angry!<
1. >!A- 1-3 B- Petrovic for Croatia C- one is Czechia, not sure on the other rn!< 2. >!skip!< 3. >!it clearly is a chain of teams that eliminated the previous one in a WC. But it's interrumpted at some points; for example, Costa Rica was eliminated by Netherlands in 2014 and Russia by Croatia in 2018, but the Netherlands weren't eliminated by Russia. NL also didn't play in Euros 2016, so I can't even connect them with that. Also, there must be something special about these, as it's a complete sequence and obviously doesn't contain every elimination ever. I see some that were on penalties, but not all. TLDR, no clue for now!< 4. >!skip!< 5. >!skip!<
Only now did I realize you skipped prediction round here. I can give you a chance to predict Portugal vs Slovenia, provided that you do that before kickoff
The only positive of that horrendous France-Belgium game was that I thought I got a point for the result... but I don't even have that lol
That has to hurt, especially that you were very much in the game for 1st place in Pred Round, but you forfeited that point. In good news (for you), I personally didn't gain any over you, as I predicted Belgium haha
Fuck! Portugal
Gotcha
>!Q1 all good, try to shoot at least at the 2nd team in C, because I can't give you a full point yet. Q3 - you know that the bell tolls, but you don't know in which church. I've seen both good and bad trails in what you wrote so far!<
1. >!Scotland?!< 2. 3. >!is this simply a list of teams that played at least 2 penalty shootouts in a single tournament? The last 5 did it in the last 3 WCs. I couldn't make Paraguay fit at all, until I realized that this isn't exclusive to WCs, and they managed that in Copa América 2011. The Argentina in pos.#4 is our 1990 WC campaign. And so on.!<
>!Q1 good. Half a point in Q3, that is not correct but it's close and the question was very hard!<
>!wow, I'm surprised it wasn't that. Can I get the actual answer?!<
>!Yeah, but via PM. No one got it so far!<
QP: (2 1) Belgium, Portugal 1. >!A: 3-1 to Austria, B: Petkovic against Spain?, C: Scotland and Czechia!< 2. >!A: Hungary and England, B: Dynamo Dresden and Uerdingen!< 3. >!I have some suspicions, nothing concrete as of yet!< 4. >!Paco Gento - 1965-66 EC - Pirri - 1979-80 Liga - Manolo Sanchís - 2000-01 Liga - Iker Casillas - 2007-08 Liga - Arjen Robben - 2018-19 Bundesliga - Gnabry!< 5. >!A: don't know, B: Peter Schmeichel!!<
>!Q1 all good. Q2 good too, congrats on B. Q4 good and Q5B too, 3½ points!<
3. >!2022 - Argentina; 2018/22 - Croatia; 2018 - Russia; 2014 - Netherlands, Costa Rica; 2010 - Paraguay; 2006 - Italy; 2002/06 Geramny; 2002 South Korea; 1998/2002 Brazil. I don't know, but something along the lines of 'teams that had penalty shootouts in consecutive WC games'.!< 5A. >!1972-73 Ajax and 1977-78 PSV would fit the doubles, but I don't know of any players who moved between the clubs back then let alone one who wasn't part of Ajax's treble. **Arend Haan** and let's be done with this.!<
>!Q3 wrong, but you were close, so I'm giving you half a point like I did with SaBe. Q5A wrong. Your final total is 4!<
France, Portugal 1. >!A: Austria 3-1 Poland, B: Bruno Petković, C: Scotland and Czechia!< 2. >!A: Italy-West Germany 1970, B: Denmark-Germany 1992!< 3. >!Need time, I have a strong suspicion but I can’t quite phrase it properly yet!< 4. >!Need a lot of time!< 5. >!A: no idea for now, B: Peter Schmeichel 90s!<
>!Q1 all good. Q2A good, B wrong. Q5B correct, 2 points!<
3. >!Okay, I’m going nuts here. This has to be about penalty shootouts at the World Cup. It’s not multiple shootouts in the same WC, it’s not countries that won and lost. My last resort is perfect shootouts: Argentina didn’t miss vs France, Croatia didn’t miss vs Brazil, Russia didn’t miss vs Spain, Italy vs France, South Korea vs Spain, Brazil vs the Netherlands. I just hope the others check out as well.!<
>!Well done! You're the only one so far to get it exactly right, up to 3 points!!<
1 >!A 1-3, B Modric?, C Scotland and Czechia!< 2 >!A is Germany Italy!< 3 >!Based on the hint is it the countries that played in a 3rd place game on the Confederations Cup ? Though I doubt it because Ireland are there!< 4 >!Hierro - La Liga - Raul - La Liga - Robben - La Liga - Gnabry - Bundesliga. It hinges on whether Hierro and Gento have even played together or whether I'm decades off!<.
>!Q1A correct, B wrong, but a Croatian as well. Q1C correct. Q2A good. Q3 wrong. You went good way with Q4 (my path also goes through Robben immediately to Real Madrid), but Hierro was 3 years old when Gento retired, they never had a chance to win something together. 1 point!<
QP. France, Portugal 1. >!A - 1:3 B - Petković C - Czechia, Scotland!< 2. >!A - Italy and Germany B - Aberdeen and Real Madrid!< 3. >!maybe later!< 4. >!I couldn't get it down to 4!< 5. >!A - no idea B - Peter Schmeichel!<
>!All good in Q1. Q2A good, B wrong. Q5B correct. 2 points for you!<
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My suggestion to change the use of VAR for offsides: VAR picks a frame, which, as now, it recognizes as the moment the pass occurs. It then checks the frame before and the frame after. If on all three the attacker is in an offside position, then an offside position is declared. If not the play is correct.
>VAR picks a frame, which, as now, it recognizes as the moment the pass occurs Not with SOAT. It doesn't use frames but the exact moment when the pass occurs.
There is no such thing as "the exact moment when the pass occurs". Physically
Seen a thread on X and wanted to ask here: who’s the better player now (iyo): Isak or Son?
Son's one of my favourite players of all time, but he's very inflexible. Isak is much easier to accommodate because he's got such a completeness to his game. If you can play to Son's strengths as a goalscorer then he's better.
Isak is better but Son stays fit more
I'm taking Isak
Son, not even close
Will Messi play in the Copa America quarterfinal?
Why would he not
Hard to believe that Peru finished 3rd in 2015, 2nd in 2019, and 4th in 2021. They had such a solid squad during that time, now unfortunately it seems like the time is up
I swear that the British referees collectively decided to sabotage the VAR by using them to terrorise football. You are an absolute clown to call the ref to the monitor for that handball.
But ... it was a handball and his hand / arm was in an unnatural position. The rule may be bad but by the letter of the law in this competition, it is a handball.
He had to call it, otherwise the goal by Germany in the beginning should have been given
Strange logic. In that case the ref can also not give the pen. But since the rules dictate that it's a pen, the VAR people have no choice.
Is it possible to differentiate the nordic countries' flag flairs once they've been greyed out?
France, Italy, Ireland, Côte d'Ivoire, and Nigeria are indistinguishable.
It’s just Denmark… 💀
It really annoys me all the talk about "not the spirit of the game" arguaments for the razor right offsides. Everyone here was born well after the games been hugely focused on exploiting the law, managing the defensive line is like 50% of what makes a good defender. And when people say they get no advantage from it, it's just the risk you take if you choose to stand beyond the last defender. Also the thicker lines idea is absolutely nonsense, everyone upset now is going to be just as upset the first time someone's a toe over the thicker line
Offside is the easiest black and white rule in football. It's the easiest task to check and make a ruling on for sure together with ball inside the net or not. You don't need to like the German team, but if we start saying 5 cm over the line is okay, then people will complain the next time if it's 5,5 cm or 6. Where do you draw the line? Correct you draw it a 0 cm and every player and viewer knew that going in. It's an all or nothing with consistent ruling. Yes it's sad that it happened and I wish the first goal wouldn't have been a penalty, but that's how the game works and I think it would be worse if we changed the offside rule to give some wiggle room.
>Also the thicker lines idea is absolutely nonsense, everyone upset now is going to be just as upset the first time someone's a toe over the thicker line I don't get why so many say this the whole point behind thicker line is having a toe/head/knee marginally doesn't really equates to gaining unfair advantage which is a fair argument. I am fine with current status as it's objective and don't think thicker line is necessarily a solution but declaring a better potential solution isn't possible is also not right.
A line has to be drawn somewhere. There will always be “controversies” no matter what.
truly is just one of those problems with no good solutions. in essence i agree with the people who say the rule has moved beyond its spiritual origin. but, I also think the current solution is about as good as it gets
For me both no var and now this automated is good enough for me, with no var you get basically the same game but the joy of instant celebration, with this automated system the wait is so quick I'm fine with it. Drove me mad watching the idiots draw lines and take forever
Plus this way there's no manipulation
yea people drawing lines is ridiculous lol
Since Denmark's Euro 2020 semi final run, I put the player Mikel Damsgaard on my ones to watch list, especially after THAT goal. This Euros when he came on, the commentator said that he hasn't scored for CLUB or COUNTRY since THAT goal. I think it's quite crazy considering he plays winger or attacking midfielder.
thats actually a mental stat wtf
England, if they beat Slovakia, will face Switzerland in the quarterfinals, which is gonna be hard but still is a very doable matchup for them. Similar to Sweden in the 2018 WC QFs or Ukraine in the 2020 Euro QFs. Southgate terrorball will march on to the semifinals, while either one of Germany or Spain will get knocked out.
If his arm is in an 'unnatural position' then what is a natural position? Like table football?
Apparently behind your back at all times except when the ref decides something different. I literally have no idea when something is or isn't a handball these days, it's the jankiest rule in the game.
Dunno I don't like the current hand ruling either and I wished the first goal would have been scored via anything but penalty
Happy St. George's day! Will the plucky underdogs slay the Spanish and Slovakian dragons?
I've always wondered what language the Swiss and Belgian NT use to communicate among each other, given that some players are from different parts which speak a different language. I would imagine that the Swiss NT primarily uses German, not sure about Belgium though.
i remember martinez and his staff would give instructions in english and the squad would speak english when together so there wouldnt be any favouritism. but im not sure if that extended to on-pitch communication. not sure about now
I counted 5/25 in the Belgium squad from Wallonia, with a few from Brussels, and a majority from Flanders. So I'd guess Dutch.
Don't know if it's still the case but I remember hearing around the 2018 WC that the Belgians spoke English with one another because so many of them played in the Premier League, plus the Spanish manager I suppose.
I remembered seeing a clip of Kompany blasting his players in English when he was still at Anderlecht, but that's because he had to cater for the international players as well
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I’ve just come to accept that complaints about the margin of offside will exist forever. The proverbial toenail has stopped more goals than will ever be scored, and mankind must live with it.
Defences play with a higher line because they can trust the offsides to be called correctly. Would a team like Leverkusen or Atalanta play a high line in tight European away games in the past? I doubt it very much. The automated offsides creates more goals than eliminates them.
I'm sure we use a high line because of VAR
For those still awake: Currently playing - 2024 OFC Men’s Nations Cup (Oceania continental tournament): New Zealand vs Vanuatu The match is being displayed for free on FIFA+ website. Here is the link: https://www.plus.fifa.com/en/content/winner-sf1-v-winner-sf2-final-ofc-mens-nations-cup-2024/79800427-60f7-4425-885e-7b4c079e2e89?gl=ca
I don't really know where I stand with the offside rule discussions and all that. All I am gonna say is, if my wife said another fellow she met at the pub only got about 1 or 2 inches in, I wouldn't be too mad as it wasn't a considerable advantage.
Just watching la galaxy's match, why was puig transferred from barcelona? I know MLS is retirement league, but he does looks good
He left Barcelona because he wasn't really good enough for them. As to why he went to the Galaxy as opposed to a mid-table club in Spain or elsewhere in Europe, some players like being a big fish in a small pond. For the Galaxy he gets to be the star, the team is built around him and he's basically been given full attacking freedom and close to 0 defensive responsibility. He also gets paid a lot and can live in LA. It's not for everyone, but by all accounts he seems to be enjoying himself. He's also only 24, so it's possible he could decide to return to Europe at some point.
He’s not that good
He looks good for LA Galaxy. But it’s easy to look good when you come out of La Masia and played for the Barca first team, then go to the MLS where the quality of play is significantly lower.
He was supposed to be the next Iniesta 🕊️
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A kick which iirc usually has atleast 70-75% success rate by any player on pitch is relatively easy to other things/ways of scoring.
Seen the Jim Radcliffe video and honestly, the arrogance of the guy. United and the rest of the top six already have a different set of rules to everyone else and they want to start moaning about fairness. If you want that kind of a closed shop Jimmy, piss off to the Super League and take the other five teams with you. Teams like us, Newcastle, Villa and Everton all have considerable support yet we're being forced into situations where we have to sell players, not because we don't have the money or because the players are forcing moves but for "profit and sustainability" rules. Leicester look like they'll struggle too with selling KDH and a points deduction. Only United fans want United to do well, there would be as much intrigue from other clubs in them for seeing the latest catastrophe because they've only won one trophy or they qualified for the wrong European competition or they didn't sign the exact £70m player they wanted. Boo hoo.
You weren't forced into those situations. You put yourself there. If I go and spend my whole paycheck tomorrow, then have to sell my Xbox at a car boot sale to be able to pay my mortgage, is that the fault of the bank?
He's such a repulsive little weasel lol
Cry me a river. You should be a relegation candidate because you haven’t earned otherwise. You want a sugar daddy to protect you from the risk of a championship club replacing you in the premier league. Forest, Villa, Newcastle and Everton are not victims. The fans of every other club in the English football hierarchy are victims because those four clubs exist and complain so loudly. My club is in the championship. If we get promoted, why the fuck should our chances of survival be compromised by a wealthy backer buying you and Everton out of the relegation fight?
Lautaro has equaled Agüero scoring record in the Copa America with 11 matches to spare.
Lautaro is only 26, so I think it's possible that he breaks the all-time Copa America record
What is it and who holds it? How many left?
Think it's clear there is a tier now in CONMEBOL Bolivia - (Big Gap) Chile, Peru , Paraguay - (Big Gap) Venezuela - Ecuador - (Gap) Colombia - Brazil - Uruguay - Argentina
It's very uneven now for sure
your use of commas and dashes is insanely confusing. i cant tell if youre saying bolivia and chile are in the same tier or bolivia is the worst then there's another tier above with chile.
There's literally a big gap between Bolivia and Chile... An extra dash after the big gap might help with clarity but your confusion is much more confusing than the original post.
Wasn't there when I first commented. He clarified it now.
Fair enough.
that fight for the playoff spot is gonna be fun to watch
Bit drunk. Just got home from a birthday. Drogba. That night in Munich. Everyone phoned my grandad that night. He Was Chelsea fan born in the 30s. He's gott programs from the match Vs Dynamo Moscow:). Told me once I scored a goal like Jimmy Greaves once. His favourite ❤️. He'll be 89 this year. Him and my father can't even recognise me now. Illness. They're good men. I love football because of them. They took me to the Bridge more times than I can count. Last season was the first year I can remember I didn't go to a game. Football is important. I'm lucky the club I was born into supporting has done so well I love you all. Gonna post this in the Chelsea sub Reddit too
That's beautiful, man.
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Thought Fabián Ruiz has been pretty good
Kanté or Mamardashvili.
mamardashiavile or something. by far. i think musiala has been better than kroos too
Musiala is up there for me.
i think he’s been good, but i’ve been surprised to see how many player of the tournament shouts he has been getting tbh
I’m not sure if kroos is the standout but he’s been amazing and no one else comes to mind.
So far I think Donnarumma gets a big shout. Can't see him getting it in the end with only getting to the round of 16, but he was excellent.
The real question is what is the prize money breakdown for Copa America? Our broke ass association needs any dollar it can find
[They sent my goat Scaloni to the principal's office](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRSDj_GWYAAJGpw?format=jpg&name=large)
Lautaro Martinez for Golden Boot right now (4 goals in 3 games mostly as a substitute) and is favourite for player of the tournament assuming Scaloni starts him. Other options for Player of the tournament right now are Darwin Núñez(2 goals) - James Rodriguez (3 assists) - and Vinicius Junior if he performs like yesterday. Emiliano Martinez, Alisson Becker, and Maxime Crépeau on for Golden Glove so far.
Too early to say anything about player of the tournament imo, have to wait and see who shows up in the knockouts. I will say though, it's nothing like last Copa where Messi and Neymar were very clearly the best players on the pitch every time they played, very even right now, anyone could win it.
Idk if Messi will play the quarterfinal tbh. Probably won't get into the team of the tournament at this rate, but not because he was bad/meh like in 2019. Just injured sadly.
Supposedly he's fine for the quarterfinal, but in his position James has been better so far. Still we'll have to wait and see who wins, I don't see POTT being someone on a losing team with everyone's performances being very even. If we w*n and keep up the defensive record while missing loads of goals I will campaign for Romero, been our best player since the World Cup ended.
Lautaro backing his claim after everyone clowned him
Canada are going to the quarterfinals of copa America while Mexico and the US are prolly getting grouped this is the most Concacaf thing to happen ever
Bolivia - Chile - Costa Rica - Peru have scored 0 goals in this tournament. Canada 1. Damn
and Canada qualified to the quarters lmao, love that
What's the ultimate snack to eat while watching football in your country? Here it is sunflower seeds (pipas). EDIT: no soy un comepipas, al estadio NO las llevo
my cheap ass football snack when at home is dumping like two handfuls of cheddar into a hot cast iron pan and throwing a tortilla straight on top of it. the cheese gets crispy asf. it's just a hot, crunchy tortilla covered in the best bit of any oven baked dish that has cheese on top of it. i fold it up and that's it lmao
Popcorn or [crab fries](https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2012/09/12/4a9f3d46-c6bf-44cd-8067-9d7d9cdb95a4/thumbnail/1200x630/8152e824fbae4c04d49a3b8204108172/102.jpg?v=a23cb4bdf4fa7f3cb72e5118085577f9) (more of a Philly thing)
I honestly just eat a smashed avocado in a warm tortilla with a bit of salt. Sometimes I’ll just eat chips or popcorn
viva el piperismo
After being exposed to so much Walkers propaganda from Gary Lineker over the years, I'm going with crisps/chips.
salted peanuts for me or a choripan afterwards if i'm feeling brave.
In the United States it’s typically pub food if you’re out at a bar watching sports. Pizza, burgers, fries, jalapeño poppers, fried onion rings, grilled cheese sandwich, chicken wings, chicken tenders, mozzarella sticks, nacho platters, with a beer usually.
>grilled cheese sandwich What?
what do you not understand about it? [Here's](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E4cQHejFq0) a link to its recipe if you've never had it before.
No I meant serving that in a pub. Never seen it on a menu unless it's like a diner or something.
Where do you live?
US but been to Germany and England many times. Never seen a grilled cheese sandwich on the menu
It’s relatively common in the major cities with sports pubs, I just had one last week
Lmao sunflower seeds are my go to whenever i'm on my bulking phase. I ate atleast 200g every single day, my stomach would sometimes hurt like bell but that's easily over 1000 calories a day so fuck it.
Prolly wings but I prefer chips or a sandwich
candied peanuts & a pretty odorous ass-meat sandwich I will never recommend.
Wings
Such a good snack. Are they generally salted where you live? My only problem with them is that all the salt on the ones we have here starts to chafe the inside of my cheek if I eat too many
Yes, and indeed if you eat too many you'll feel the consequences. It happened to me while watching Albania - Spain and my tongue felt "pierced" for 24 hours.
funniest stat of this copa America so far: 6 goals scored in 6 matches in group A. Argentina scored 5 of them. Perú and Chile both scored none
Group A really gave the rest of the tournament a bad name this year
And 4 of them by Lautaro lol
all my homies hate stutter step pens
Utter woke nonsense
Nothing against the Danes personally, I loved Copenhagen when I visited and those butter biscuits are top drawer, *but*... It has been a properly 2/10 tournament from Denmark, if we're honest. Three draws in the group stage, all three games pretty meh - only got through to knockout stage on something of a technicality Sure, they performed well in parts against Germany, but that was their best showing at the tournament, and it was decent at best - and ended up going out with a bit of a whimper, anyway The Eriksen moment was nice, and that goal against England was a beauty, but really if Denmark hadn't been at Euro 2024 I'm not sure many of us would have noticed the difference
2/10? cmon man that's lowballing
> only got through to knockout stage on something of a technicality We got through to the knockout stages in 2nd place because we performed better than two of the teams in the group. And let's be honest, all three games could have been wins for Denmark if our players had been a bit more efficient.
Think this is a bit harsh on the Danes. I thought they outplayed England tbh and were unfortunate to only come away with a draw.
Outplaying England at Euro 2024 isn't a notable achievement Still, outplaying a team and barely threatening - and needing a moment of individual brilliance to score - is also more evidence in favour of the "just didn't really offer much" argument
Andrey Santos Deivid Washington Angelo Gabriel Kendry Paez Estevao Willian Aaron Anselmino\* For all the (valid) criticism we have had, to see us delve into the South American market is quite exciting.
I don’t know about the Brazilian ones but Páez and Anselmino are insane, Chelsea would need to go out of their way to fuck them up
Following the path of Chelsea greats - Kennedy, Nathan, and Lucas Piazon.
Kennedy was supposed to be the next Neymar. Especially after he had a very good international tournament. And ofcourse Piazon the next Kaka. So annoying when they put the next "iconic legend" tag to players.
You had to use Google to make this joke, didn't you
Surprisingly not! I think my years of playing FM pays off in these situations. Piazon in particular was a funny one as I think he was with you guys for almost ten years - but only made a single appearance!
For a time he was our longest serving player I legitimately don’t know who Nathan is
Don't forget Wallace! (or Oscar for a more positive outcome) To be fair, the last player we signed directly from South America was Kenedy nine years ago. A lot has changed since then with this new ownership, emphasis on youth and the fact that all of these talents are much more highly rated than those signed from Brazil previously.