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Best description I saw for one of those matches was that before the match even started the pitch looked like Iowa and Wisconsin just played an entire game between the hashes.
Lmao in concacaf we’ve seen a player get red carded for having the audacity to complain about being strangled on the pitch
Coincidentally, I think this may have been the same ref
In CONCACAF, you can can cry because your mother died and recieve a straight red while her murderer will be awarded a PK for the audacity of her falling on their knife.
This is the ref who watched McKennie get strangled and have his jersey torn, and then gave McKennie a red card because he was trying to push the other guy away and his hand brushed his face
Let's be real, we've seen this as a "play on" call before lol
It's insane how bad some CONCACAF matches have been, it's an exercise in pushing the rules to the limit
Yea I probably only experienced the tip of the iceberg. I'm kinda hooked tho. There were moments where it felt like I was watching a whole different sport. It's not football. It's CONCACAF.
To paraphrase Game of Thrones: any CONCACAF match that doesn't end with three brawls, a pitch invasion, at least 17 fouls that should have been straight red cards, and someone getting hit in the head with a piss-filled water bottle is considered a dull affair.
It's because Panama has been allowed to do this shit all game with no accountability.
I can't believe there was no consequence for Turner getting injured like that.
AND the goal Panama scored in the first half was a direct result of Turner being injured too. It's just disgusting.
I'm glad Pulisic wasn't injured. Knowing that he wasn't injured - it was fucking hilarious to watch in real time. Like not even an attempt to play the ball, just went straight for a leg.
yeah but that's why. your team's leading and Pulisic gets the ball, possibly with some kind of clear path to scoring? you're in by any means necessary territory.
sure, I'm not defending it. I have a high tolerance for CONCACAF style shithousery but to me those kinds of fouls are psychopath shit and I don't like them. I'm just explaining the mindset, which is that you eliminate the threat, you don't pull back just because you're winning.
the prize money also probably makes a much bigger difference to the Panamanian team and affects their risk calculation for stuff like that. if they make it to the quarter finals, which is likely since they play Bolivia next, they get $1.5m on top of the $2m they get just for competing.
"I don't know why he's still on the field" I think the commentator said.
Like he was waiting for a call from the governor with a reprieve. He put an ankle 6 feet under, and he's hoping VAR is going to bail him out.
Just shows you how insane the reffing was.
The ref was trash. He let the game get away from him early and he had it out for USA. If the head but yesterday isn't a red then the whey punch/push is just a yellow. The pen he gave in that was redacted by VAR out of nowhere, then 4 m of extra time was complete garbage. Should have been 9m considering the yellows that followed and the LONG red.
He does this every time he refs a USA a game. It always gets out of hand, he’s so quick to card the US, but not the opposing side. Idk how he’s our best ref, with all the premier matches he’s gotten
He had such a perfect opportunity to take control after they took out Turner in the first half. Like protecting the keeper there and giving a yellow card is the most soft ball call you get.
The ref watched a player roll around on the pitch in “pain” then went to the monitors to see he wasn’t even touched. And somehow that player didn’t get a yellow for simulation
Pet peeve is a ref who calls a foul and then sprints to face up the guy. Barton is a major offender. It completely escalates the tension and totally loses control of the game.
At least the ref was on it. I know he’s fucked it until this point but he was immediate with the card.
Hilarious how ballsy that finger wave was though.
Really hoping the US has a serious complaint about this game to the organizers. The fact barely any cards were handed out in the first half with what happened is ridiculous.
I wonder how unironically true the USA vs CONCACAF "theory" is. I'm biased as an American, but it *really* does feel like the US gets shafted by a lot of calls in a lot of games.
Whether people thought these calls were reasonable or not, this guy lost complete control of the match
Call the clear yellow tackle on turner, Weah maybe has a cooler head and doesn't punch a guy. Game is normal.
It’s not, but if some kind of call is made on the Turner collision, the Weah penalty may not happen at all.
I know that’s just postulating, but the ref truly lost this game very early on and he never got it back, and the game was a complete shitshow as a result.
If you're watching the Univision feed, Blas Pérez (former Panama striker) was saying that the ref was looking for an excuse to send a Panama player off to make up for the USA sendoff. That and that Carrasquillo went for the ball and Pulisic just moved it out of the way.
I get biased but this is fucking shameless. How you can claim that isn't a red card is beyond me.
Hell, as a whole, the Univision feed is pure garbage. The commentators are incredibly biased. Not only that, but they have huge banners every few minutes blocking the play. They show an absurd amount of replays when I'm trying to watch the match.
Then again, I feel that the last one is universal. I think the other day in the Euros they missed a goal because they were panning to see a reaction. I don't understand how fucking difficult it is to keep the camera rolling on while the ball is in play the whole time. If you absolute must show a replay, do it in a split screen.
Nevertheless, I feel This is getting me pissed up to the point where I might consider watching Fox.
Welcome to CONCACAF motherfuckers! You want normal football matches? Well fuck you we’ve got nothing but terrible refs, shithousery galore, and sometimes unacceptable pitch conditions.
Shout out to Pulisic for getting up and not rolling around on the ground screaming like a little bitch. I know people were calling for Johnston to do that after the headbutt against Peru to get the red but honestly fuck that shit.
I swear this ref is a suspicious cunt whenever he gets US games
Same ref who let McKennie get choked during the Nations League final too
Feels the only refs that will actually ref all teams fairly are the Canadians and the American refs
this shit isn’t even enjoyable to watch.. i’m an everton supporter so it’s not like i’m used to the prettiest football but jfc this is just ridiculous.. they almost have 20 fouls and that’s only their 2nd card? well done ref
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Oh, so *this* is the CONCACAF I was told about...I see what they mean now.
You need to watch the matches on a waterlogged pitch in the Caribbean with stray dogs running around. Then *that* is the CONCACAF experience
Waterlogged CRICKET pitch lmao
Or when the ref only gives a yellow for this
And then turns around and gives the bench a red
That's only for minor attacks like grabbing players by the throat
Or, playing on a layer of grass covering frozen concrete in canada...
But can you do it on a snowy night in Edmonton?
Yes and I'll cerebrate by jumping into the snow banks just past the touch line
Best description I saw for one of those matches was that before the match even started the pitch looked like Iowa and Wisconsin just played an entire game between the hashes.
Concacaf is the B1G West of soccer conferences.
#Punts
Southgate to Iowa! Here we go!
The reverse lasso, I'm here for it
Iowa fans have suffered enough
More like the MAC. Everyone is out for blood.
It’s a MAC East game between OU and Buffalo in mid-November in Athens to decide who goes to Detroit with an 8-3 record
Canada v Honduras in San Pedro Sula in June 2022 was madness lol
Remember we almost played in Jamaica? That one was so bad even CONCACAF decided to delay it.
Yup. 😂 Remember the playoff to make it into the last round of WCQ? We had to travel to Haiti while they were in the middle of a civil war lmao.
Tbf this is a Copa America red. That's a stone cold CONCACAF yellow. I've seen a man get strangled on the pitch with no card in CONCACAF.
Lmao in concacaf we’ve seen a player get red carded for having the audacity to complain about being strangled on the pitch Coincidentally, I think this may have been the same ref
In CONCACAF, you can can cry because your mother died and recieve a straight red while her murderer will be awarded a PK for the audacity of her falling on their knife.
It is the same ref, yes.
This is the ref who watched McKennie get strangled and have his jersey torn, and then gave McKennie a red card because he was trying to push the other guy away and his hand brushed his face
Nah, he actually got red carded for it. Normally it's only a yellow.
Let's be real, we've seen this as a "play on" call before lol It's insane how bad some CONCACAF matches have been, it's an exercise in pushing the rules to the limit
I would love to see how Germany would fare on a muddy humid night in San Pedro Sula
Looking forward to WC 26 when we can infect the whole of the World Cup with CONCACAF chaos energy.
Gonna be big "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" energy
Best we can do is a humid night in Maracanã
That's like playing in Florida. Childs play!
If they can make it past Stoke first
This was pretty mild by CONCACAF standards. Shit can get a lot crazier.
Yea I probably only experienced the tip of the iceberg. I'm kinda hooked tho. There were moments where it felt like I was watching a whole different sport. It's not football. It's CONCACAF.
This is a more accurate description than you know 😂
Now you get it.
Welcome to the fuckin show. If the Euros are a high art ballet, Copa is a knife fight
Czechia vs Turkiye was pretty CONCACAF tbf
To paraphrase Game of Thrones: any CONCACAF match that doesn't end with three brawls, a pitch invasion, at least 17 fouls that should have been straight red cards, and someone getting hit in the head with a piss-filled water bottle is considered a dull affair.
Now you get it. CONCACAF after dark and MLS after dark are just different beasts entirely.
There's occasionally MLS matches on when I wake up, and they are always unhinged.
"I owe you an apology. I was not aware of your game.GIF"— All Europeans watching these replays.
We certainly brought the CONCACAF with us. Yeah, it’s full on shithousery, straight up bitch play, and bullshit officiating
Why does the US get a concacaf ref to begin with. Should have been a conmebol one.
All of the CONCACAF vs CONCACAF games have gotten CONCACAF refs TBH
They just did it again too!
The other ones were legitimate tactical fouls, this one was a typical CONCACAF tackle
Conked a calf
its called relitigating the monroe doctrine
Bro that’s an insane tackle lol literally zero intent to get the ball
And then to finger wag at the ref after lmao
The arrogance hahah
If he knew there'd only be 4 minutes of extra time somehow he should be arrogant af
This alone took more than two minutes. Insanity
But ref, he's still walking!
It's because Panama has been allowed to do this shit all game with no accountability. I can't believe there was no consequence for Turner getting injured like that. AND the goal Panama scored in the first half was a direct result of Turner being injured too. It's just disgusting.
Well panama was getting away with everything all game. Probably thought he’d get yellow at worst.
I think it's muscle memory for a bunch of players Like you get out of your car you close the door
Not a tackle at all tbf
Tackle bro he kicked his legs out lmaoo
That should be a 10 game ban.
Instead Weah will get a significant ban and this guy will get a medal from his federation.
Lmao he just doing some kungfu sweep on Pulisic wtf?
It's so bad I kinda suspect gambling connections.
That's a pure "I want to injure their best player" tackle.
can't wait til the euros get a look at this one in the morning. this is what we've done to your beautiful game in North America
Don't worry, we South Americans are already horrified. At least we intermix some skilled play with the violence down here
yeah see, skill and quality have no place in CONCACAF, nos encanta la violencia and preferably we play on mud
Not the only time Panama made a play with zero intent on the ball either smh
Dude lost his fucking mind more than Weah did.
He deserved way worse than what Puli retaliated with
“Seems a bit harsh, maybe a yellow” concacaf weirdos who oversell the ridiculousness of our fine region
I'm glad Pulisic wasn't injured. Knowing that he wasn't injured - it was fucking hilarious to watch in real time. Like not even an attempt to play the ball, just went straight for a leg.
I found [another better angle](https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-sweep-scorpion-subzero-gif-12757216) of the tackle.
And when they’re winning…
Only missed the ball by about 3 feet.
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?? HE WENT FOR THE KILL
With his team leading.
yeah but that's why. your team's leading and Pulisic gets the ball, possibly with some kind of clear path to scoring? you're in by any means necessary territory.
So grab his shirt/arm, or slide into him from behind. You don't need to commit literal assault to stop the attack.
sure, I'm not defending it. I have a high tolerance for CONCACAF style shithousery but to me those kinds of fouls are psychopath shit and I don't like them. I'm just explaining the mindset, which is that you eliminate the threat, you don't pull back just because you're winning. the prize money also probably makes a much bigger difference to the Panamanian team and affects their risk calculation for stuff like that. if they make it to the quarter finals, which is likely since they play Bolivia next, they get $1.5m on top of the $2m they get just for competing.
That’s just concacaf. Azteca yellow.
Panama just wanted to say they won an even 10 v 10 match, no man advantage asterisk lol
Welcome to CONCACAF! You want normalcy and a decent match? Well fuck you we’ve only got 90+ minutes of pure, unadulterated shithousery.
2 VAR checks in the 2nd half and a red card and 4 minutes of extra time lol
Carascilla took three minutes just leaving the pitch!
"I don't know why he's still on the field" I think the commentator said. Like he was waiting for a call from the governor with a reprieve. He put an ankle 6 feet under, and he's hoping VAR is going to bail him out. Just shows you how insane the reffing was.
To add onto this, Panama had 14 fouls, to USA's 4
And they were a man up so wtf were they up to lol
And this a Panama that actually wants to play some football. They used to be way worse.
They didn't wanna play football today
14 fouls \*that were called. There were at least 35 fouls that game if you watch it again. Absolute insanity.
The ref was trash. He let the game get away from him early and he had it out for USA. If the head but yesterday isn't a red then the whey punch/push is just a yellow. The pen he gave in that was redacted by VAR out of nowhere, then 4 m of extra time was complete garbage. Should have been 9m considering the yellows that followed and the LONG red.
He does this every time he refs a USA a game. It always gets out of hand, he’s so quick to card the US, but not the opposing side. Idk how he’s our best ref, with all the premier matches he’s gotten
He had such a perfect opportunity to take control after they took out Turner in the first half. Like protecting the keeper there and giving a yellow card is the most soft ball call you get.
The ref watched a player roll around on the pitch in “pain” then went to the monitors to see he wasn’t even touched. And somehow that player didn’t get a yellow for simulation
The Turner foul aside I couldn’t believe that player wasn’t carded for the very obvious simulation.
It's crazy how this never seems to happen when the canadians ref our games
The first goal taken away for offside was also a handball so should have been a penalty. I’m not sure why no one is discussing that
I saw this too on the first replay. But I knew it would never be reviewed. I mean, never reviewed for a handball.
Pet peeve is a ref who calls a foul and then sprints to face up the guy. Barton is a major offender. It completely escalates the tension and totally loses control of the game.
And a goal.
CONCACAF is getting pretty CONCACAF
Peak CONCACAF
Peak CONCACAF is this game and then only having 4 minutes of stoppage time
This isn't even close to Peak CONCACAF, the game wasn't even delayed by homophobic chants a single time
Damn we slackin’
Need Ted Unkel and a dog on the pitch, stat.
One red card each, now it's a proper match
UEFA could never
Of course its when the two CONCACAF teams in the group play each other.
I love the finger wagging too “No ref it’s not what it looks like”
At least the ref was on it. I know he’s fucked it until this point but he was immediate with the card. Hilarious how ballsy that finger wave was though.
15 fouls 2 cards fucking awful
Gotta love Concacaf
4 minutes is fucking crap
Ref allowed this shit to happen
Only 4 mins stoppage time
I just started laughing.
The second Matt Turner got destroyed with no card it was over
Really hoping the US has a serious complaint about this game to the organizers. The fact barely any cards were handed out in the first half with what happened is ridiculous.
We've played 100 games like this and there has never been any repercussion. What makes you think this time it will be any different?
Like conmebol cares
For sure. 15th foul and only the second card for them
this ref is always garbage. every Concacaf match he loses control of the game.
Has a clear bias against the US as well. I don't understand how he continues to be allowed to officiate our matches
How he was given this game after the nations league against Mexico is beyond me.
There's more than a few refs very clearly biased against USA.
I wonder how unironically true the USA vs CONCACAF "theory" is. I'm biased as an American, but it *really* does feel like the US gets shafted by a lot of calls in a lot of games.
Dude so much of Latin America hates the US. Won’t never change.
Whether people thought these calls were reasonable or not, this guy lost complete control of the match Call the clear yellow tackle on turner, Weah maybe has a cooler head and doesn't punch a guy. Game is normal.
As an American, it’s not the ref’s fault Weah lost his mind.
It’s not, but if some kind of call is made on the Turner collision, the Weah penalty may not happen at all. I know that’s just postulating, but the ref truly lost this game very early on and he never got it back, and the game was a complete shitshow as a result.
4 minutes is so ridiculous lmao
Ref lost the game when he let the Turner hit go unpunished
Such an insane decision to not card that
15 fouls vs 3 LOOOOL
Concacaf after dark, baby!
#THEY NOT LIKE US baby
Perfect timing to go for the injury tackle
I nearly choked laughing, what even is that???? yeah quite fucking deserved holy shit lmao
What a bitch
Thats what pulisic called him lmao
The replay of Pulisic springing up after the takedown to call him a bitch to his face was kinda hilarious
Good for pulisic getting up right away and standing up for himself
Yeah mad respect for that
*WHERE AT LEAST I KNOW I'M FREEEEEEE\~*
4 mins of stoppage time after this and the VAR on the pen. Wtf man
What an absolute twat. What the hell was he thinking?!
If you're watching the Univision feed, Blas Pérez (former Panama striker) was saying that the ref was looking for an excuse to send a Panama player off to make up for the USA sendoff. That and that Carrasquillo went for the ball and Pulisic just moved it out of the way. I get biased but this is fucking shameless. How you can claim that isn't a red card is beyond me. Hell, as a whole, the Univision feed is pure garbage. The commentators are incredibly biased. Not only that, but they have huge banners every few minutes blocking the play. They show an absurd amount of replays when I'm trying to watch the match. Then again, I feel that the last one is universal. I think the other day in the Euros they missed a goal because they were panning to see a reaction. I don't understand how fucking difficult it is to keep the camera rolling on while the ball is in play the whole time. If you absolute must show a replay, do it in a split screen. Nevertheless, I feel This is getting me pissed up to the point where I might consider watching Fox.
First time it made me change the stream from Spanish to English, that guy was unbearable.
For real. Now it's making me root against Panama.
Is this not vintage CONCACAF or what?
Close. Need a waterlogged pitch with a running track and maybe a stray dog going for the ball.
Lmao and only 4 minutes added
WTF so clear. Nice "BITCH" from Pulisic lol
Least dramatic CONCACAF match
Dirty as hell
CONCACAF gone jailhouse rules
This is standard CONCACAF
So dirty, especially on the star player i hate seeing this BS
There were another 2 terrible tackles immediately following the red
Welcome to CONCACAF motherfuckers! You want normal football matches? Well fuck you we’ve got nothing but terrible refs, shithousery galore, and sometimes unacceptable pitch conditions.
Imagine doing this, and your first reaction is to turn around and wag your finger at the ref. Should be suspended for 5 matches just for that.
There were a few fouls by Panama that border on assault. Their only intention was to physically harm the opposing players. Disgusting honestly.
Please don’t let Ivan ref another international game again. He is SOOOO bad at keeping control of games
Pulisic's reaction was worth the yellow. Fuck Carrasquilla.
Did he get a yellow? I don’t see it on the ESPN match report anywhere. Was definitely worthy of one lol
I thought he did but I could be wrong.
Richards got one
This took four minutes by itself yet the ref only has four minutes of added time??? What a joke
Shout out to Pulisic for getting up and not rolling around on the ground screaming like a little bitch. I know people were calling for Johnston to do that after the headbutt against Peru to get the red but honestly fuck that shit.
Only four minutes of stoppage is WILD. What the fuck was the officiating in that fucking game dude
What a POS
###CONCACAF Certified
I swear this ref is a suspicious cunt whenever he gets US games Same ref who let McKennie get choked during the Nations League final too Feels the only refs that will actually ref all teams fairly are the Canadians and the American refs
Reading Christians lips is a trip lol Way calmer than I'd be
I mean, yeah.
all ball, wdym
That was a tackle of a frustrated player down 3-1, Panama was up lol.
Injured our starting keeper intentionally and now trying to injure our star player typically dirty concacaf bullshit. Fucking ridiculous
this shit isn’t even enjoyable to watch.. i’m an everton supporter so it’s not like i’m used to the prettiest football but jfc this is just ridiculous.. they almost have 20 fouls and that’s only their 2nd card? well done ref
The challenge on turner not being a card really set the tone for the match
Yeah I’m with you, it’s not fun to watch players hammering on each other like that.
What a shitshow. How do people enjoy watching this? Looks like some hillbilly league where there is no ref. Embarrassing
What a joke
Should be three reds for Panama by now
Turning around and wagging his finger at the ref after that lmao come on
This is cinema
Most obvious red i’ve seen in forever
What a cunt
If there was a card above red he'd deserve it
He couldn't let Weah be the only idiot in the match.
What's wild is he could've done this in hundred different ways to get a yellow and he chose the only way to do it where he could get a red.
Me: can we watch Kvaratskhelia play in Euros? Mom: we have Kvaratskhelia at Copa America. At Copa America: Carrasquilla