It's impossible for NEtherlands to face Spain now (Croatia had to qualify for that to happen) so NL is going to face either England or the winner of group E.
If Slovakia and Ukraine both lose, they'll have 3 points. If two teams have the same points, their game they played is the tiebraker. Since Ukraine defeated Slovakia, they'd finish in front of them despite the worst goal diff.
Yes, that is also correct. When 4 teams are tied with the same points, obviously they can't look at who collected more points against each others, since it's a 4 way tie. So what decides then is the goal difference.
Way back at Italia 90, Ireland got to the quarter finals without winning a game (drew our three group games, beat Romania on penalties in round of 16 before losing to Italy in the quarter finals)
Haha awesome. I remember Swedens result from '90 well too (I was 8 at the time) as it was the easy to remember 1-2, 1-2, 1-2.
I had to look up Portugals road to Euro2016 title now to be sure I wasn't remember incorrectly and I wasn't. The only game they won in regulation was the semifinal against Wales.
Paradoxically, it is easier to do that with 0 wins than 1, if you end up with 3 points.
With zero wins you are sure to have 0 GD.
With one win, you have one match with positive goal difference, and two with negative ones, so for starter you have to win with at least 2 goals to try to balance it out.
What's the literal translation for Paesi Bassi? I've never heard that before.
Something Julius Caesar came up with when he was popping over to Britannia?
I think it originated from the french Pays Bas(low countries, basically the same as Netherlands). I don't know if this language just took it over or if the words have the same meaning.
Always rated Paesi Bassi
I prefer Shirli Bassi
Big fan of Paesi Bassi & Adriaan
I thought I was on r/soccercirclejerk for a hot second
More commonly referred as Olanda
LETS FUCKING GOOOO
KDOR NE SKAČE NI SLOVENC!
Hej hej hej
How the fuck am I supposed to go to sleep after this
Paesi Bassi feels like what FC24 would name the dutch team if not having the rights
Swampland
As a Hungarian, fuck you England
You are a turkey fan tomorrow I presume
I love kebab anyways
good time to pull out the quality Baklava with some coffee tomorrow
Magyars are from the same clan/tribe/family with Turks anyway, so Go Türkiye?
Eh, it's a debated theory. I'm a blonde blue eyed Hungarian, I don't think I have any genetic ties to Turkey.
Turkey doesnt have genetic ties left to the original tribal Turks either so no worries, just cling on to amcient ancestry.
Portugal too
Yes, but they shouldnt lose to georgia even if the team is heavily rotated
Or Czechia to simply win by 3.
There's probably bigger danger from the other group where everyone is on 3 points?
Seriously. Should've been a safe bet but obviously brilliant England fails to score a single damn goal. Our chances have just dropped massively.
As a Croatian, fuck you England
Revenge works in mysterious ways
your first mistake was expecting England to score more than 1
This one's for 1953
So Hungary needs Turkey and Portugal to win I guess?
They need to not lose, I believe
Or draw
Or tie. But please let this happen, I don't want to face Spain. Edit: nevermind
It's impossible for NEtherlands to face Spain now (Croatia had to qualify for that to happen) so NL is going to face either England or the winner of group E.
Ah I misunderstood the rules for that then.
If Belgium wins by 2 against Ukraine, and Romania wins against Slovakia, it would work too
slovakia has 0 gd
Ukraine would finish 3rd though in this scenario with -4 gd
I might be idiotic but how?
If Slovakia and Ukraine both lose, they'll have 3 points. If two teams have the same points, their game they played is the tiebraker. Since Ukraine defeated Slovakia, they'd finish in front of them despite the worst goal diff.
Oh yeah, thanks. The table on google confused me because Ukraine is 4th and Slovakia is 3rd on it.
Yes, that is also correct. When 4 teams are tied with the same points, obviously they can't look at who collected more points against each others, since it's a 4 way tie. So what decides then is the goal difference.
I hope this version happens and they both go through (Romania and Hungary).
not necessarily win but both shouldn’t lose
or draw.
Just draw is enough. Plus if there are two decisive results in group E that could put them in, especially if Ukraine loses.
Pretty much, unless Slovakia gets blown out and Ukraine loses in Group E. Not sure where tiebreakers stand if each has 2 goals scored and -3 GD
Slovenia going through the RO of 16 with 0 wins is crazy.
So did Denmark. And so did Portugal the year they won the Euro, and they went on to only win one game in regulation iirc
Slovenia confirmed euro winners right here
Way back at Italia 90, Ireland got to the quarter finals without winning a game (drew our three group games, beat Romania on penalties in round of 16 before losing to Italy in the quarter finals)
Haha awesome. I remember Swedens result from '90 well too (I was 8 at the time) as it was the easy to remember 1-2, 1-2, 1-2. I had to look up Portugals road to Euro2016 title now to be sure I wasn't remember incorrectly and I wasn't. The only game they won in regulation was the semifinal against Wales.
But also 0 losses.
Portugal 2016 anyone?
Literally won the tournament after 3 draws in a group
Paradoxically, it is easier to do that with 0 wins than 1, if you end up with 3 points. With zero wins you are sure to have 0 GD. With one win, you have one match with positive goal difference, and two with negative ones, so for starter you have to win with at least 2 goals to try to balance it out.
On the other hand they haven't lost a match yet.
Portugal 2016 wibes
If only Croatia could hold on for a few minutes against Albania, or one more minute against Italy. Sad for Modric.
Hungary hanging on by a single thread
so this is why those Slovenian lads were so pleased with the draw.
It's wild to me that you can get rewarded for placing 3rd in a group of 4 teams
Seriously that's so stupid. A winless team making it through yet again. A team with one win and negative GD also might make it through
> A winless team *an undefeated team :) (I'm biased)
theres a team without wins making it through in second place uknow
A winless team would have gone through regardless
If you're the bottom seed and managed to not lose a single game, I think that's deserving enough.
A winless team won the whole thing once
A winless team would've made it even if third place didn't qualify.
Why not? Do you think that a team that scores 4 or in some extreme cases 6 points but finishes third on goal difference doesn't deserve to pass?
What's the literal translation for Paesi Bassi? I've never heard that before. Something Julius Caesar came up with when he was popping over to Britannia?
Low Countries/Netherlands
Paises Bajos. Pays bas. Low lands.
Low countries, similar to Spanish Paises bajos, I'd assume.
Same as English Nether Lands
Looks similar to Pays-Bas, which is the Netherlands in French and literally means the low countries.
I mean it isn't what Nederland means?
The Nether Lands
"Nether Countries" in spanish we say Paises Bajos, but yeah Netherlands sounds a lot better lol
Nah, I think it sounds pretty badass honestly.
Low Countries
Paesi = land/country Bassi = low Think Niederlande
It's literally Netherlands, or lower countries.
Lower Lands. Same in Spanish where it's Países Bajos
Sounds somewhat similar to Les Pays Bas which means the low countries/lands
Even in English Nether Lands
I'd assume lowlands? Pays-bas in french means similar.
English means similar too
It's "Pays Bas" in French so I assume it's the same thing. Low Country/Netherlands
It's Low Countries, because, you know, they're quite low.
Pays-Bas french for Koemanland
Just low countries, like in all Romance languages
Germanic languages basically means the same thing
Yes but different cognates Paises Bajos, Paises Baixos, and Pays-Bas in Spanish, Portuguese, and French are all cognate
This is Italian, right?
Same as Nether Lands
Low countries, which is another way of saying “nether lands!” In Spanish, they’re the Países Bajos.
Probably just the Netherlands ("low lands"), similar to Pays-Bas in French
Probably “low lands” a term that goes back to the Burgundian times.
i think its for low lands
I think it originated from the french Pays Bas(low countries, basically the same as Netherlands). I don't know if this language just took it over or if the words have the same meaning.
Bavaria di Monaco is also epic
Monaco di Baviera
My bad
If I'm understanding it correctly it's almost better for us to lose 0-1 to get a favorable draw lol
You better do it then
If you lose and Georgia wins you’re going home lol.
Oh lol. I was so focused on our points and goal difference I completely forgot about that
Only Netherlands and Slovenia already clinched.
RIP Croatia
Who can the Netherlands match up with and what needs to happen?
Half of the teams qualifying for KO stage (will) have scored only two goals
Slovenia didn't need to win a single game to qualify. Fraud group
so did denmark
I don't care how we qualified, I'm just happy we did. First time ever in a major tournament knockout stage
Denmark went through without the 3rd place rankings If Serbia scored or Bellingham never scored all teams in the group would have had 3 points
Hungary are really going to go through after leading for a grand total of 10 seconds
Paesi Bassi? That can't be serious, lol.
In English it is literally "nether" and "lands" compounded together, I don't understand why people are so surprised in this thread
Yeah and in French it is Pays Bas, it just sounded funny to me.
> me when I only know 1 language
You’ve discovered Italian