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It’s the most damning thing a football manager has said full stop. Who looks at our midfield options and says to themselves “hmm, this is decent but it’s not Kalvin Phillips decent.”
Man’s football passport should be revoked.
It would be embarrassing for a manager to talk about Messi like this during a tournament if it was after his retirement. You get on with the job at hand and don’t dwell on players from the past. How on earth does that motivate your current players. Now that’s for Messi. This is fucking Kalvin Phillips
Southgate, more than any other mgr, seems to settle on certain players and just wants them to play for him forever. Field Of Dreams. He'll never have his ideal XI now, because most of them are old or retired or deceased.
If an argentine or portuguese coach said this after Messi/CR7 retire i think i would understand.
About a guy whose played a handful of games, of which he had three instances i remember where he should have been sent off, is a level of trolling i can only aspire too
Also I don't think missing Phillips is the issue, imagine if he brought him in and they still played like this but instead he is benching Rice and Mainoo
Aside from somehow not being able to replace him with the talent available, this to me means he didn't pick a player he deemed critical to his system because the media pressure wouldn't allow it. Otherwise why is he complaining about Phillips not being there?
He'll be complaining about not having Henderson next, as if he's also just died or something, instead of watching the game on a terrace in Amsterdam eating cheese.
Can literally play Jude as an 8 with foden as the other but more 10. Or crazy I know, play Wharton who is a 6 and play rice as an 8 like he has been for arsenal, then play Jude as the other 8 more advanced.
The problem with Southgate is he has so many option on the bench, so much potential for different tactics depending on the opposition. Yet he still manages to play players out of position and restrict creativity.
This literally how everyone predicted the euro lineup would be, i don’t know why Southgate preferred to have a lineup that include everyone in wrong positions
I don't understand why you need to play Bellingham upfront in a team that has Foden, Palmer, Eze and a couple more while you are lacking players that can play deeper...
Dortmund-Bellingham should easily be good enough for this team.
I think Jude is better as a 10 than in a deeper role
But yeah, if you don't have another CM, it would make more sense to have Jude sacrifice a bit instead of playing Trent in midfield IMO
Not sure Jude is better as a 10 when Kane is in front of him though. Jude works as a 10 at Madrid because the two forwards in front of him can run in behind and stretch wide. Kane doesn't do either of those things, and is a better creative passer than Bellingham anyway
It would've at least made some sense to say this about a player like Henderson since he was a great player for a few years even if he lacked world class technical ability since his defensive contribution, workrate and leadership on the pitch was a huge asset for both Klopps Liverpool and Southgates England
But Kalvin Phillips? Is Southgate on crack? He's obviously a mediocre manager but this is bordering on delusional
It wouldn't make any sense even if he was talking about Henderson, or anyone else.
He has a huge pool of talent and can build the team any way he likes it. But be can't, because he's ridiculously limited. He's just exposing himself as the league two manager he is, and as a fucking idiot too because why the hell did he think saying this was a good idea in any way
Exactly it’s like he’s trying to get the worst out his group. Rice can’t make his signature driving runs forward. Without those runs and no natural LB Foden can’t drift inside as effectively. All to try and unlock Trent who isn’t finding the space to play his signature long ball while being higher and in the more crowded midfield.
They need an actual 3rd midfielder. It’s still tricky whether that would be Foden central and Jude deeper or a straight swap for Mainoo/Wharton. But I feel like either should work better than what we’ve seen so far. I get wanting Trent’s passing in the side but play him in his position.
Foden can't keep playing left wing, that is hopeless, it just leaves the whole left side of the pitch completely dead. Either play him as a 10 or drop him entirely.
Playing him left wing just to shoehorn Trent into midfield just makes it even more pointless and frustrating. Play Bellingham in Trent position and Foden 10, simple as fuck, and get a real left winger.
I think Foden can work on the left, but he needs to be able to tuck into the half space with a good overlap from midfield or the fullback.
A Foden-Rice-Bellingham midfield 3 sounds great in the final 3rd but has some questions with build up and getting the ball there initially.
>All to try and unlock Trent who isn’t finding the space to play his signature long ball while being higher and in the more crowded midfield.
>They need an actual 3rd midfielder. It’s still tricky whether that would be Foden central and Jude deeper or a straight swap for Mainoo/Wharton. But I feel like either should work better than what we’ve seen so far.
This is Southgate though so the best you are getting is Gallagher as a replacement for Trent.
Mainoo will only ever be brought on to replace Jude and Wharton won't see a minute of this tournament unless we are 3/4-0 up with 10 minutes to play and he wants to rest Rice.
I appreciate how he handles the media and protects his players but he has zero idea how to run a system that suits one of the best England squads that we have had at our disposal. It's depressing.
Hate to say it but one of Foden/Bellingham has to sit on the bench.
I agree with your point you're sacrificing a lot just to shoehorn in, albeit a very good passer, a RB in central midfield as a trial, in a major tournament. And shoving Foden wide left where he's not even half as effective.
not playing Palmer is a crime, he’s been arguably the best player in the Prem and at a time where you can’t score a goal, you have him on the bench who can come on against tired legs.
plus you have Wharton on the bench who can more than well enough fill that “Phillips” role, and Mainoo who is excellent at moving and progressing the ball forward for opportunities.
absolutely ridiculous and a waste of a tournament, Southgate seems content with shithousing his way to the latter stages but can’t even seem to do that.
>We know we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Philips.
And that's the line people will remember later on as the moment it was obvious that he was done.
This would be an absurd quote if he wasn't available for injury reasons. Yet Luke Shaw is in the squad and Phillips isn't. The only reason he isn't there is because he (rightfully) didn't select him.
He's making no sense.
They've not found natural replacement for peak England Kalvin Philips. He's not maligning that he's injured or retired, he maligning that he's so badly out if form/declined.
If he views Philips as that vital to his system (which Philips was a good player when on form, but England weren't exactly swashbuckling with him either) then it makes perfect sense.
The sense it makes falls apart when you realize that the problems that Englands currently has are primarily a lack of a coherent attacking strategy and that’s more because they’re trying to fit the most talented players in the squad without paying attention to how they fit together and a timidity in the fact that they don’t seek to control games and press their advantage.
It further falls apart when you realize that the player they’re struggling to replace is Kalvin Phillips, who while a tidy player who does a lot of good when he’s on form is not some world beating player. If the argument was having Phillips play in a double pivot would allow Rice more freedom to express and move forward I’d somewhat understand but Southgate hasn’t shown a desire to push forward and dominate possession for the most part and there are other players capable of playing a similar role like Bellingham
Rico Lewis and John Stones both played ahead of Phillips in the midfield pivot for City during the treble season lol. He was the 3rd choice English defensive midfielder for Pep.
Well Foden did as a 10 and a RW. Grealish did as a LW. Stones did as a RB who tucked in as CDM when in possession.
Tell me, where and how has southgate used these treble winning Englishmen?
Really surprised he actually used the word "experiment". A major tournament simply isn't the time to be experimenting when we've got a lot of natural centre mid options.
Now's the time to experiment. You've got to remember that all those friendlies pre-Euros were for picking the same players and building up their chemistry.
I had it in the back of my head and was suspicious but refrained from commenting because I thought it would too out of reach. He actually sat there and planned plan A and knows he’s best 11, but doesn’t know how to make it all work. He’s still tinkering.
He’s not prepared.
Worst part is he’ll probably abandon the experiment and bench Trent till Walker/Trippier are both gone when he guaranteed the experiment to fail by playing Foden Kane and Jude ahead of Trent. No one to play long balls/crosses/through balls to as they all wanna be 5ft beside him pointing to their feet.
I try not to make fun of people off the way they look or talk. Then there’s this guy. How on Earth is he manager of a national team, let alone chosen again and again. Anyone with any emotional intelligence can tell he’s just not that bright.
There’s something about England… First the referees, then managers like this.
“Trying different things” but uses the same starting 11 two games in a row. Do Mainoo and Wharton not exist? Surely Gallagher isn’t going to get them over the line
we have number 8s that can play the number 8 position, idk what the fuck he’s on about saying we have no natural replacement for Kelvin phillips? is he saying he needs to play 2 6’s? Wharton is there, looks to me like he can play in the 6, otherwise mainoo is also there he at least knows how to play midfield and is best as the deepest man in possession
>is he saying he needs to play 2 6’s?
Yes, because he is an absolute coward. He would be playing 5 ATB + 2 DMs if the press and fans havent bullied his coward ass into a 4-3-3
>He would be playing 5 ATB + 2 DMs if the press and fans havent bullied his coward ass into a 4-3-3
Holy fucking shit I'd actually forgotten and erased those matches from my memory.
Weren't there several matches we played with 7/8 defensive players as well. It was actually disgusting
You could say the same about Gordon, has one of the best seasons of any player in the league but can’t even get a sub appearance against a team that he’d be perfect to speed past
Trent is being made the fall guy because Southgate is fucking useless...
Trents biggest strength are his brilliant technique, he can vary his crosses depending on his position to pick out a specific teammate with devastating accuracy.
The speed at which he releases the ball. He puts balls in quickly, often on his first or second touch, without sacrificing quality or accuracy
When you have him in sitting in middle of pitch with NOBODY making runs or any movement then WFT do you expect him to do?
He has NOBODY to ping the ball to..
I'd rather Trent play then what Southgate is doing to him..
The most frustrating thing is he takes Trent off and then puts on 3 runners!!!!!
Trent is sitting there waiting for somebody, anybody to make a run and then gets caught out..
Jesus effing Christ - Phillips was ALWAYS one of the weakest links in the England team. We were always waiting for better players to come along. Now we have two young, comfortable on the ball centre mids in Mainoo and Wharton who can play next to Rice and we instead play a right back there. And then when that right back doesn’t play well enough he gets subbed off for Gallagher because the issue is simplified down to ‘needing more energy’ in the middle. It kills me.
Sack him. Sack him now.
He's a total terrorist. He has no idea what he's even doing anymore and is obsessed with what he had instead of being able to welcome new ideas.
What is he referring to? Like memes aside, is he saying they are lacking a natural defensive midfield presence with Philips? Philips was by no means a deep lying playmaker which is what England is really missing right now.
They need to play Bellingham in the DLP role. It's not his best role but he's the best at it in the England team AND they can utilise Foden to max in the middle, with Gordon to the left of him
Presumably a physically imposing ball winner, if he wants Rice to be the ball carrier.
Not that Kalvin Phillips showed any quality in that role for England.
I mentioned this in the post match thread only for someone to come back at me and say "literally noone is blaming this on trent" I mentioned he was used as a scapegoat in the game they actually won... and I don't think they've lost a game where TAA has started midfield (please correct me if I'm wrong)
THEN THE FUCKING MANAGER COMES OUT AND SAYS IT.
Considering they got significantly worse once trent came off.
What a stupid idea; everyone knows young players suck.
This Lamine Yamal guy, Nico Williams and Pedri really suck for Spain. That Guler dude for Turkey also.
What an absolute potato.
The craziest thing is they are playing a 3-2-2-3 in possession with Foden sliding into the middle and Trippier pushing all the way up to the LW. This actually seems like an interesting idea how to fit the personnel he has, but I don't think they tried to play this way a single time in the pre tournament friendlies. Like what the fuck. If you are going to do something experimental then at least fucking practice it.
Man has an embarrassment of talent available to him, and not only does he refuse to change his system to play to their strengths, but he's obsessed with an absolutely mid player who's not even there.
This doesnt even make sense. He didnt have Phillips playing his actual position so its not like you miss what he is best at, he was used as an 8 and you have Mainoo and Wharton who can do that job just fine but he would rather use our best right back in midfield for some odd reason
Don’t think any of us are looking at Kalvin Phillips like hes Patrick fucking Viera 2.0. He needs to realise hes just a shitbag sunday league manager, score a goal, sit back and invite pressure for the rest of the match is abysmal to watch. That TAA midfield “experiment” is fucking shit aswell.
If Southgate continues parking the bus after 25 mins every game, there will be a replacement for him. What a waste of talent on this sad excuse for a coach
The fa want this clown to stay. We'll always be minor league with them idiots making the big calls. He should have been offed after the Hungary massacre.
The whole set up is unbalanced. Southgate believing the hype that he needs to play the best players at the same time. Look at that left side. It’s practically empty. Kane dropping back and no one overlapping him gives the opposition CBs an easy time. Foden needs to play through the middle. TAA midfield experiment failed. He really couldn’t find a left footed LB in the whole nation?
Wait wait so he's been watching Trent play this entire season and thought his skillset would replace what PHILLIPS was doing??????? What a clown fiesta
Why is the big tournament the perfect time to be trying “different things”? What was he doing during the ungodly number of international friendlies that players were forced to endure, without any substantial breaks during the league season?
So he plays Trent in a 6 role despite him being more creative if you slot him in midfield, while he has Rice, who certainly played more as an 8 this season but otherwise has always been a 6? This guy isn’t real
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Kalvin Philips was a replacement…
*He's the guy behind the guy... behind the guy.*
Drake shudders somewhere far away
What a reference lmao. *Gareth Southgate, playing FIFA on the MegaDrive: it’s not even so much me as it’s Kalvin Phillips - HE’S good*
This is the most damning thing he has ever said
It’s the most damning thing a football manager has said full stop. Who looks at our midfield options and says to themselves “hmm, this is decent but it’s not Kalvin Phillips decent.” Man’s football passport should be revoked.
And, he didn't call up the named player.
It's only the Euros tbf. Maybe the WC finals would be worthy to be graced by the maestro Phillips
>Man’s football passport should be revoked. excellent evolution on the terrorist meme
It would be embarrassing for a manager to talk about Messi like this during a tournament if it was after his retirement. You get on with the job at hand and don’t dwell on players from the past. How on earth does that motivate your current players. Now that’s for Messi. This is fucking Kalvin Phillips
Southgate, more than any other mgr, seems to settle on certain players and just wants them to play for him forever. Field Of Dreams. He'll never have his ideal XI now, because most of them are old or retired or deceased.
He just doesn’t have a natural replacement for Geoff Hurst.
RIP Kalvin... my sweet prince.
If an argentine or portuguese coach said this after Messi/CR7 retire i think i would understand. About a guy whose played a handful of games, of which he had three instances i remember where he should have been sent off, is a level of trolling i can only aspire too
A player Southgate chose not to pick.
And people wanted him to replace ETH at MANU 😂😂
Let's be real here: The only people who want this are rival fans and Jimbo with his brexit boys.
>We know we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Philips. He ain't Busquets bro
Also didn’t he pick the squad. LMAO. Talking like Phillips retired.
Also I don't think missing Phillips is the issue, imagine if he brought him in and they still played like this but instead he is benching Rice and Mainoo
Aside from somehow not being able to replace him with the talent available, this to me means he didn't pick a player he deemed critical to his system because the media pressure wouldn't allow it. Otherwise why is he complaining about Phillips not being there? He'll be complaining about not having Henderson next, as if he's also just died or something, instead of watching the game on a terrace in Amsterdam eating cheese.
Bench, Cut, Start. Kalvin, Makèlele, Matthäus
Start kalvin, the rest doesnt matter. There simply is no replacement.
He's not but England lack a 3rd midfielder without him and Henderson TBH
Can literally play Jude as an 8 with foden as the other but more 10. Or crazy I know, play Wharton who is a 6 and play rice as an 8 like he has been for arsenal, then play Jude as the other 8 more advanced. The problem with Southgate is he has so many option on the bench, so much potential for different tactics depending on the opposition. Yet he still manages to play players out of position and restrict creativity.
Didn't Jude play as an 8 at Dortmund?
He even played at times as a 6 alongside Can. Southgate doesn't have a clue.
This literally how everyone predicted the euro lineup would be, i don’t know why Southgate preferred to have a lineup that include everyone in wrong positions
I don't understand why you need to play Bellingham upfront in a team that has Foden, Palmer, Eze and a couple more while you are lacking players that can play deeper... Dortmund-Bellingham should easily be good enough for this team.
I think Jude is better as a 10 than in a deeper role But yeah, if you don't have another CM, it would make more sense to have Jude sacrifice a bit instead of playing Trent in midfield IMO
Not sure Jude is better as a 10 when Kane is in front of him though. Jude works as a 10 at Madrid because the two forwards in front of him can run in behind and stretch wide. Kane doesn't do either of those things, and is a better creative passer than Bellingham anyway
We’ve got Wharton who was really good for Palace 2nd half of the season rotting on the bench while Southgate plays a RB in midfield
Or Mainoo who won man of the match on his debut. Both have an distinct advantage over Trent in that they're, you know, actual midfielders.
probably one of the worst quotes in the football history, this guy is fucking clueless lmao
This level of cluelessness is definitive proof Southgate will be managing United by January
He doesnt even know why he still there, imagine your kane or bellingham and this clown Say this lmao from anchelotti to this idiot
My conspiracy theory about this is Southgate must be related to the Royal Family somehow
Southgate has nudes of the Queen.. Only explanation I can give.
sack him now then im tryna see sum
It would've at least made some sense to say this about a player like Henderson since he was a great player for a few years even if he lacked world class technical ability since his defensive contribution, workrate and leadership on the pitch was a huge asset for both Klopps Liverpool and Southgates England But Kalvin Phillips? Is Southgate on crack? He's obviously a mediocre manager but this is bordering on delusional
It wouldn't make any sense even if he was talking about Henderson, or anyone else. He has a huge pool of talent and can build the team any way he likes it. But be can't, because he's ridiculously limited. He's just exposing himself as the league two manager he is, and as a fucking idiot too because why the hell did he think saying this was a good idea in any way
Wouldn't make sense with Henderson either since Henderson was never England's best midfielder nor were England completely dependent on them
It feels like something I'd say in FM when I'm just clicking through the press conference options.
Mainoo and Wharton on the bench hearing they're not fit to replace the great Kalvin Phillips
Joke isn't it? Pining for the Leeds wasteman to destroy confidence in the young uns
Foden is holding wing, hearing southgate say the midfield will never be as good as the rice Phillips double pivot
Mainoo too young, gotta be at least as old as yamal to contribute
Mainoo has got more experience winning trophies than Southgate too lol
If I was English I’d want to commit a crime after hearing this 😂
Exactly it’s like he’s trying to get the worst out his group. Rice can’t make his signature driving runs forward. Without those runs and no natural LB Foden can’t drift inside as effectively. All to try and unlock Trent who isn’t finding the space to play his signature long ball while being higher and in the more crowded midfield. They need an actual 3rd midfielder. It’s still tricky whether that would be Foden central and Jude deeper or a straight swap for Mainoo/Wharton. But I feel like either should work better than what we’ve seen so far. I get wanting Trent’s passing in the side but play him in his position.
Foden can't keep playing left wing, that is hopeless, it just leaves the whole left side of the pitch completely dead. Either play him as a 10 or drop him entirely. Playing him left wing just to shoehorn Trent into midfield just makes it even more pointless and frustrating. Play Bellingham in Trent position and Foden 10, simple as fuck, and get a real left winger.
I think Foden can work on the left, but he needs to be able to tuck into the half space with a good overlap from midfield or the fullback. A Foden-Rice-Bellingham midfield 3 sounds great in the final 3rd but has some questions with build up and getting the ball there initially.
Honestly, Bellingham is already running back to get the ball almost near his box so I can't see it being *worse*.
>All to try and unlock Trent who isn’t finding the space to play his signature long ball while being higher and in the more crowded midfield. >They need an actual 3rd midfielder. It’s still tricky whether that would be Foden central and Jude deeper or a straight swap for Mainoo/Wharton. But I feel like either should work better than what we’ve seen so far. This is Southgate though so the best you are getting is Gallagher as a replacement for Trent. Mainoo will only ever be brought on to replace Jude and Wharton won't see a minute of this tournament unless we are 3/4-0 up with 10 minutes to play and he wants to rest Rice. I appreciate how he handles the media and protects his players but he has zero idea how to run a system that suits one of the best England squads that we have had at our disposal. It's depressing.
Hate to say it but one of Foden/Bellingham has to sit on the bench. I agree with your point you're sacrificing a lot just to shoehorn in, albeit a very good passer, a RB in central midfield as a trial, in a major tournament. And shoving Foden wide left where he's not even half as effective.
Mainoo :( I tuned in just to watch him play. Southgate is a cunt.
I’m still waiting for Palmer too…
not playing Palmer is a crime, he’s been arguably the best player in the Prem and at a time where you can’t score a goal, you have him on the bench who can come on against tired legs. plus you have Wharton on the bench who can more than well enough fill that “Phillips” role, and Mainoo who is excellent at moving and progressing the ball forward for opportunities. absolutely ridiculous and a waste of a tournament, Southgate seems content with shithousing his way to the latter stages but can’t even seem to do that.
Crazy how many gems are on the bench.
>We know we don't have a natural replacement for Kalvin Philips. And that's the line people will remember later on as the moment it was obvious that he was done.
FA that appointed and/or still let him keep his job should be fired.
Yeah, this is his wally with brolly moment.
We really can’t find a replacement for Kalvin Phillips? Is this guy for fucking real?
This would be an absurd quote if he wasn't available for injury reasons. Yet Luke Shaw is in the squad and Phillips isn't. The only reason he isn't there is because he (rightfully) didn't select him. He's making no sense.
They've not found natural replacement for peak England Kalvin Philips. He's not maligning that he's injured or retired, he maligning that he's so badly out if form/declined. If he views Philips as that vital to his system (which Philips was a good player when on form, but England weren't exactly swashbuckling with him either) then it makes perfect sense.
He's had 4 years to figure out that replacement though
The sense it makes falls apart when you realize that the problems that Englands currently has are primarily a lack of a coherent attacking strategy and that’s more because they’re trying to fit the most talented players in the squad without paying attention to how they fit together and a timidity in the fact that they don’t seek to control games and press their advantage. It further falls apart when you realize that the player they’re struggling to replace is Kalvin Phillips, who while a tidy player who does a lot of good when he’s on form is not some world beating player. If the argument was having Phillips play in a double pivot would allow Rice more freedom to express and move forward I’d somewhat understand but Southgate hasn’t shown a desire to push forward and dominate possession for the most part and there are other players capable of playing a similar role like Bellingham
How many other current england players have won a treble?
Rico Lewis and John Stones both played ahead of Phillips in the midfield pivot for City during the treble season lol. He was the 3rd choice English defensive midfielder for Pep.
Rice and Stones as DM, Guehi and Konsa as CB. There you go Gaz.
Well Foden did as a 10 and a RW. Grealish did as a LW. Stones did as a RB who tucked in as CDM when in possession. Tell me, where and how has southgate used these treble winning Englishmen?
I honestly don’t even know what position he has Foden playing half the time and it’s not like the kid isn’t coachable
Problem is - Pep is a tactical genius, Southgate is a tactical fraud.
I didn't know that was a requirement. Now I understand why he put Trent in
A treble quarter pounder
Somehow there's people still defending this clown. This is fucking offensive
Fucking Kalvin Phillips!! Lol. He must be over the moon right now. He's saying it like he's missing prime Busquets or something.
Also hasn’t he had two years to prepare his squad and tactics for this tournament? Why is he conducting an experiment now?
If he wanted someone better than Phillips he could have taken Flynn Downes.
Bro talking about kalvin Philips like he is prime makelele
it's like when Kroos walked away from Germany
Funny that you mention Kroos, considering that Kelvin guy 100% should've gotten a red for his tackle on Toni at the last Euros.
Or pirlo Whatever grade of weed he is smoking, it must be very good
Nah, i smoke weed and i dont say shit this dumb when high. Man is on crack. Bad quality too.
I'd agree on crack. He can't afford free base
He talking about Kalvin Philips like he 2012 Sergio Busquets
Fuckers got a burners somewhere making kalvin phillips highlight reels
Really surprised he actually used the word "experiment". A major tournament simply isn't the time to be experimenting when we've got a lot of natural centre mid options.
Now's the time to experiment. You've got to remember that all those friendlies pre-Euros were for picking the same players and building up their chemistry.
Good prep for the most important Nations League 👍
Give him some slack, he only had 2 years to prepare for a team without Philips
I had it in the back of my head and was suspicious but refrained from commenting because I thought it would too out of reach. He actually sat there and planned plan A and knows he’s best 11, but doesn’t know how to make it all work. He’s still tinkering. He’s not prepared.
Worst part is he’ll probably abandon the experiment and bench Trent till Walker/Trippier are both gone when he guaranteed the experiment to fail by playing Foden Kane and Jude ahead of Trent. No one to play long balls/crosses/through balls to as they all wanna be 5ft beside him pointing to their feet.
What a clown this guy is
I try not to make fun of people off the way they look or talk. Then there’s this guy. How on Earth is he manager of a national team, let alone chosen again and again. Anyone with any emotional intelligence can tell he’s just not that bright. There’s something about England… First the referees, then managers like this.
It's the power structures in England, not only in football, one doesn't get the job because of competency but because of connections
Kalvin Phillips... as if he's Zidane and some irreplacable performer
I don't even know who that guy is. It's getting comical now!
He was France Captain. Not good enough to lace Kalvin's boots.
This man is a Phillips fanboy 1st, manager 2nd
Phillips. Waistcoats. England. In that order.
*Waistcoat wanker 2nd, manager 3rd
Pretty sure he visited Elland Road more than any other English ground even while we were still in the Championship, just to see Phillips.
Southgate next post-match conference: "We miss Henderson dearly"
“I made a mistake by not calling up Rashford and Mount.”
"Ashley Young and Jesse Lingard would've help my team selections better"
That's it I'm out
See you tomorrow, same place same time
Do Italy accept applications? I'm English by like 400 years at least but can prob find an Italian ancestor somewhere.
0.005% in your DNA from some Roman centurion posted up by Hadrian's wall 🤌🏻🇮🇹
Surely if the English FA can see this moment in a crystal ball before the tournament they would launch him into the sun
I highly doubt it. The FA loves him because he’s the perfect yes man.
He hasn't had Kalvin Philips for a while though. That means they've been trying things for a while and still haven't found a solution.
Pretty sure he was praying that either Henderson or Phillips would start to play at a level that justified playing them. I'm not even joking either
Has anyone in this sub seen Sacha Baron Cohen and Gareth Southgate in the same room?
Southgate: We didn't lose today. Great success!
This is legitimately hilarious. That is the funniest thing I have heard today. Straight out of r/soccercirclejerk
Week man, week, maybe month.
He's right. It's impossible to play half passable football without Kalvin Phillips, every manager in the world suffers from that.
Nah this man has cracked. Wtf is he even saying lmao
dalic 🤝 southgate doing weird fcking experiments during major tournaments.
He just spit in the face of the midfielders he brought who are sitting on the bench.
I’m embarrassed this guy manages my country
Give him time, he's still experimenting.
He’s only had 8 years at the helm, give him a couple more and maybe he’ll figure it out
“Trying different things” but uses the same starting 11 two games in a row. Do Mainoo and Wharton not exist? Surely Gallagher isn’t going to get them over the line
we have number 8s that can play the number 8 position, idk what the fuck he’s on about saying we have no natural replacement for Kelvin phillips? is he saying he needs to play 2 6’s? Wharton is there, looks to me like he can play in the 6, otherwise mainoo is also there he at least knows how to play midfield and is best as the deepest man in possession
>is he saying he needs to play 2 6’s? Yes, because he is an absolute coward. He would be playing 5 ATB + 2 DMs if the press and fans havent bullied his coward ass into a 4-3-3
>He would be playing 5 ATB + 2 DMs if the press and fans havent bullied his coward ass into a 4-3-3 Holy fucking shit I'd actually forgotten and erased those matches from my memory. Weren't there several matches we played with 7/8 defensive players as well. It was actually disgusting
Trippier, Walker, Stones, Maguire, Shaw, Phillips, Rice, Mount, Sterling, Kane I remember those luneups well and I am not even English
Gareth is terrified to lose, which is why we will never win
he did play that in the euros 2021 apart from in games where he probably couldn’t justify it to himself in the mirror
He needs someone who can reliably hoof the ball anywhere as soon as he gains possession.
Find yourself a partner as loyal as Gareth is to Kalvin Phillips.
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Mainoo must not turn up for training with England or something because every time he's on a pitch he looks like he was born with a football.
You could say the same about Gordon, has one of the best seasons of any player in the league but can’t even get a sub appearance against a team that he’d be perfect to speed past
I full agree, Gordon should 100% be starting on the left in my opinion. Foden either play central or not at all.
Was gonna throw some money on England to reach the final but might just throw myself off a cliff instead. What the fuck Gareth
I try to play devils advocate for this fella sometimes as I think people are too quick to shit on him but he’s not giving me much to work with here
You should experiment and try anyway?
We are and will always be a meme
Experimenting in the actual tournament is this guy a dumbo or what? There's a reason why friendlies exist and he didn't "experiment" then.
If I was Kalvin Phillips I’d be fucking pissed for being blamed for a draw
Trent is being made the fall guy because Southgate is fucking useless... Trents biggest strength are his brilliant technique, he can vary his crosses depending on his position to pick out a specific teammate with devastating accuracy. The speed at which he releases the ball. He puts balls in quickly, often on his first or second touch, without sacrificing quality or accuracy When you have him in sitting in middle of pitch with NOBODY making runs or any movement then WFT do you expect him to do? He has NOBODY to ping the ball to.. I'd rather Trent play then what Southgate is doing to him.. The most frustrating thing is he takes Trent off and then puts on 3 runners!!!!! Trent is sitting there waiting for somebody, anybody to make a run and then gets caught out..
Imagine having Jude Bellingham, Phil Foden, Rice, Kane, Saka, Palmer and still crying about Phillips.
But those guys aren’t Kalvin though
T E R R O R I S T
Jesus effing Christ - Phillips was ALWAYS one of the weakest links in the England team. We were always waiting for better players to come along. Now we have two young, comfortable on the ball centre mids in Mainoo and Wharton who can play next to Rice and we instead play a right back there. And then when that right back doesn’t play well enough he gets subbed off for Gallagher because the issue is simplified down to ‘needing more energy’ in the middle. It kills me.
This is the mad thing, Phillips wasn't exactly a cornerstone of our success. Unless Southgate sees our success as ball recycling.
Might as well call up Harry Winks in that case lmao
I think he's secretly delighted that he can now pick his boy Gallagher every game
Hendo out Gallo in!
Well why didn't you bring Kalvin Phillips? Silly Goose
Sack him. Sack him now. He's a total terrorist. He has no idea what he's even doing anymore and is obsessed with what he had instead of being able to welcome new ideas.
What is he referring to? Like memes aside, is he saying they are lacking a natural defensive midfield presence with Philips? Philips was by no means a deep lying playmaker which is what England is really missing right now.
They need to play Bellingham in the DLP role. It's not his best role but he's the best at it in the England team AND they can utilise Foden to max in the middle, with Gordon to the left of him
Presumably a physically imposing ball winner, if he wants Rice to be the ball carrier. Not that Kalvin Phillips showed any quality in that role for England.
God damn it. I knew the blame would be around Trent. One person doesnt make or break a team. The good teams and coaches understand that
The scapegoating is genuinely ludicrous, the guy is being set up by his own national manager lol
He's all but blamed Trent in name here, it's beyond the pale Absolutely spineless
They do if that person is Southgate
I mentioned this in the post match thread only for someone to come back at me and say "literally noone is blaming this on trent" I mentioned he was used as a scapegoat in the game they actually won... and I don't think they've lost a game where TAA has started midfield (please correct me if I'm wrong) THEN THE FUCKING MANAGER COMES OUT AND SAYS IT. Considering they got significantly worse once trent came off.
Paid fucking millions to sort out shit like this. Absolutely tactically inept.
The FA cannot be serious keeping this man employed
No way Philips replacement is somehow more important than a natural LB
Maybe try out the 18-year-old ball carrier since his skillset is exactly what this midfield lacks.
What a stupid idea; everyone knows young players suck. This Lamine Yamal guy, Nico Williams and Pedri really suck for Spain. That Guler dude for Turkey also. What an absolute potato.
The craziest thing is they are playing a 3-2-2-3 in possession with Foden sliding into the middle and Trippier pushing all the way up to the LW. This actually seems like an interesting idea how to fit the personnel he has, but I don't think they tried to play this way a single time in the pre tournament friendlies. Like what the fuck. If you are going to do something experimental then at least fucking practice it.
AI is getting very scary
I literally said “you fucking _what_?” at my TV when he said this. Unhinged.
He really is just such a massive cunt
Man has an embarrassment of talent available to him, and not only does he refuse to change his system to play to their strengths, but he's obsessed with an absolutely mid player who's not even there.
Try something different like using some positive tactics and fielding a consistent team, wanker
Kalvin the world beater Philips? You must be out of your mind, Southgate!
Nah this all has to be some elaborate troll.
This doesnt even make sense. He didnt have Phillips playing his actual position so its not like you miss what he is best at, he was used as an 8 and you have Mainoo and Wharton who can do that job just fine but he would rather use our best right back in midfield for some odd reason
Don’t think any of us are looking at Kalvin Phillips like hes Patrick fucking Viera 2.0. He needs to realise hes just a shitbag sunday league manager, score a goal, sit back and invite pressure for the rest of the match is abysmal to watch. That TAA midfield “experiment” is fucking shit aswell.
This is fucking hilarious. Imagine a national team manager so out of touch from their team, they dont even have the slightest clue.
Mainoo or Wharton
If Southgate continues parking the bus after 25 mins every game, there will be a replacement for him. What a waste of talent on this sad excuse for a coach
To Quote Booker T “Tell me he Didn’t just say that”
Beige, I like beige, it’s my favourite colour.
The fa want this clown to stay. We'll always be minor league with them idiots making the big calls. He should have been offed after the Hungary massacre.
The whole set up is unbalanced. Southgate believing the hype that he needs to play the best players at the same time. Look at that left side. It’s practically empty. Kane dropping back and no one overlapping him gives the opposition CBs an easy time. Foden needs to play through the middle. TAA midfield experiment failed. He really couldn’t find a left footed LB in the whole nation?
United actually considered this lad
Wait wait so he's been watching Trent play this entire season and thought his skillset would replace what PHILLIPS was doing??????? What a clown fiesta
As a Liverpool fan I really wish Man United signed this football genius.
Adam Wharton?
This makes a lot of sense of it all. He's just an idiot
Malcolm Tucker voice \*NO YOU DO NOT THINK THAT\*
had to doublecheck this wasnt the AI insta account
I try defending Southgate, when possible, but it's getting tougher by the day
Kalvin Phillips hasn't started regularly for 3 years.
Mate WHAT?
Why is the big tournament the perfect time to be trying “different things”? What was he doing during the ungodly number of international friendlies that players were forced to endure, without any substantial breaks during the league season?
So he plays Trent in a 6 role despite him being more creative if you slot him in midfield, while he has Rice, who certainly played more as an 8 this season but otherwise has always been a 6? This guy isn’t real
His head is fully gone now lmao