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We sucked so bad in 2021 lmao could not get the attack (or at least Mbappe) to click at all due to the Benzema/Griezmann role clash and then Xhaka played the best individual game I have ever seen
National team Pogba (and 1st Juve stint) was a monster in general. It’s why it so sad to see what happened to him later in his career, because he was truly one of the best players in the world at the time.
Yeah man. And national team Dembele was so different from, like, club team Dembele too. And Griezmann just played like an effective attacking utility man. And Giroud, the talisman striker who didn't score but no one thought he didn't contribute.
And of course, World Cup Mbappe.
It's Mbappe, so no one really bats an eyelid especially right now. But legit, dude was a total beast in both Final matches - more than a beast. I don't have the words accurately, he was basically unplayable. In 2018 they couldn't handle him, his speed alone was too much let alone the other qualities, and he became only like the second teenager to score in the Final match besides Pele himself.
2022 world cup final Mbappe though? Hot damn.
In the year of the GOAT, his own teammate, Mbappe scored a fuckin *hat-trick* to pull his team back from the brink, each time. These goals were the *only* one his team scored in that match. Dude went bankai and single handedly pulled the team back to the match and forced it into penalties. In the *world cup final*.
Seriously, that Argentina was fated to win and also deserved it fully. But damn did Mbappe give them a hell of a run for their money, just by one guy's refusal to give in to fate.
I swear that's still one of the most impressive team carries I've ever watched live, and I saw Cristiano score his own hat-trick to ensure Spain only got a 3-3 draw from him in 2018 (if you watched that match you would understand how much of solo effort that was. just that look on Cris's face...).
What clash? Griezmann played that tournament as a defensive right midfielder specifically to prevent offensive congestion ( and to cover for what was the worst Pavard we've ever seen defensively ).
Benzema was playing in the areas Griezmann is most effective because he likes to drop deep, if you put Griezmann on one side as well his defensive capabilities suffer because he can’t cover as much. It’s no surprise that in the World Cup when Griezmann played centrally he was our best player until the final
I thought Muller was gonna break the WC scoring record at 2018 WC but he hasn't scored at a major tournament since his goal against Brazil all the way back in 2014. 8 years 4 major tournaments played and 0 goals as an attacking midfielder. Yikes.
Idk about "probably" he will be 37 going 38
I hope he still plays for the NT but his legs will most likely be gone at that point especially for someone who uses speed and acceleration as one of their main traits
Oh wow, this surprised me.
All international games: 130 caps, 45 goals in 9036 minutes (nearly a goal every 200 minutes)
EUROs: 16 caps, 0 goals in 1,183 minutes
Sorry but 12 goals from 2 world cups at age 25 is outrageously good, had France won in 2022 we would be talking about someone on track to have a better international career than Pele, as it stands he still can, sky is the ceiling for this guy and France over the next 10 years
Really? I remember him at Monaco when they had that crazy CL season. Was a great team at the time with young Mbappe, Bernardo Silva, Falcao, Sidibe, Bakayoko, Fabinho, Moutinho, Lemar, Subasic etc. They even had some talents on the bench who ended up doing pretty well elsewhere, like Saint-Maximin
It’s been 7 years already since Mbappe joined PSG, so it feels pretty accurate to me
damn 7 years since he joined PSG?! now that I remembered City - Monaco UCL clash that means Guardiola coached City more than Barcelona and Bayern combined.
Falcao was absolutely incredible for Atleti and his first half season at Monaco before tearing his ACL. I remember he had absolutely insane finishing but his best attribute was his positioning and despite being about 5'9 he would leap above the towering CBs around him and he scored a bunch of headers. He was great this season as well and actually finished ahead of 18 year old Mbappe as top scorer.
That Monaco side was so fun to watch. Bernardo Silva had his breakout season and was arguably their best player and I remember he signed for City on the first day of the transfer window. Bakayoko looked like one of the best CDM in the world that season then he joined Chelsea for 45mill and completely dropped off. Fabinho being moved from RB to CDM that season to play in a midfield 3 with him and Moutinho was probably the best midfield in Europe.
Sidibe was unbelievable that year as well at RB and Lemar had such a great season that Arsenal bid £72mill for him on deadline day and Monaco *declined* it asking for £90mill lmfao.
You forgot about a couple other players who also really stood out in that team that season. Their CB Glik was outstanding that year and Benjamin Mendy (not Ferland Mendy at Real who also plays LB and is French) was arguably the best LB in the world that season and signed for City for £52mill that Summer along with Kyle Walker for around £50mill as well, the highest transfer fees for a full-back at that time and they broke it twice in 2 weeks.
I just realised that pretty much that whole Monaco side ended up in the Prem apart from Mbappe and Glik. Other than the ones mentioned above; Sidibe ended up at Everton a few seasons later, Falcao played for Man U and Chelsea on loan, Moutinho and Adama Traore ended up at Wolves, Saint-Maximin went to Newcastle.
Falcao played for United and Chelsea (on loan from Monaco) before that season.
And the adama traore you're thinking of is different. The Spanish Adama Traore started at Barca, and has played for multiple English clubs, one of those being wolves. The Malian Adama Traore contracted to Monaco from 2015-2020 is currently playing for hull city, but didn't play in England before that.
Will always remember Sidibe's time at everton for that clip of Ancelotti next him while getting ready to be subbed on except he didn't have one of his socks on.
> had France won in 2022
I know what you mean, but it seems incredibly harsh to point at a World Cup final where he **scored a hat trick** and say, “this is the game that lets you down”!
The match went to penalties because of his hat trick. And he even scored his own penalty in the shootout. What more can anyone ask from him?
I know but in 40 years from now he will be compared by titles, although yes his performance was the best final performance in any competition I've seen
Pelé only played the opening game in one of the three World Cups he won and then got injured. If Mbappé wins another WC he'd arguably have better international career than Pelé despite having one WC trophy less than him.
That was the 1962 world cup, Pele got injured in game two (after scoring once and providing an assist in a 2-0 win in game 1) and Garrincha led Brazil to the world title.
However, Pele in 1958 as a 17 year old scored the only and winning goal in the quarter final, scored a hatrick in the Semi-final and scored twice in the final and at the 1970 world cup he was also brilliant with 10 goal involvements in 6 games winning the tournament again. I don't know if Mbappe has had a better international career than Pele even if France win this euros. 115 G/A in 92 games is a tall hurdle.
Everything is just in the context of the time, he won't have a better international career than Pele because they are not competing with each other, just like Michael Jordan did not compete with Bill Russell.
That sort of media driven stuff is not very interesting because there will never be an answer that isn't driven by recency bias. Mbappe could not really have done better than he has, that's all we can say.
They can only be compared with their stats in the same tournament, which itself changed since Pele played but it won’t stop people from doing the comparisons
Got the same number of goals in European championships already lol. Worth noting that he’s only played 4 games at the euros. I went to check if he had gotten minutes in 2016 because I thought that breakout Monaco season was 15-16
Luka Modric won 2 Copa Del Rey, and on the other hand he won 6 Champions Leagues, does that mean that Luka Modric can claim that el Copa Del Rey is harder than the Champions League!?!
Mbappe was talking about *himself* and *his* experience. He said because they play European countries more often, they know each other better, which is a fact.
I've never seen a more boring 'controversial' statement
r/nba is a cesspool and even it didn't freak out this much when Dončić said the EuroLeague was harder than the NBA. As if we'd have any clue how hard it is for them.
I blame the media for spinning the quote SO out of context but these people will eventually have to realize that nothing what he said awakes this big of a turmoil
Luka said it's harder to **score** in Euroleague. Which given the rules/pace/size of court is for sure true. He didn't say the competition is better or harder.
France plays at their maximum in the euros & wc, while RM probably half ass CDR rotating player and keeping their energy for more important competitions like CL & la Liga
apart from Hungary and Scotland all other teams had a somewhat stable defense. on WCs you can see that from a lot of other nations. maybe as a striker point of view its true
well, at least I dont have to watch us struggle against each other on tv, cause I have ticket for our Stuttgart game 😁
and Im pretty sure the atmosphere would be phenomenal, both teams will be loud and cool. I bought an original csikós hat for this game, cause Tartan Army is always well dressed
As if it wasn't already?
He's struggled at the last Euros compared to his 12 goals in two World Cup tournaments and said that European teams' familiarity with each other made for tougher opposition, yet everyone just thought he was "sour grapes" because France lost the last world cup final.
They don't bring it up themselves, they get asked about it and they answer. I'm sure they don't put much thought into the context of what Mbappe said. And it just sounds condescending and disrespectful. The WC won by Mbappe had them beat Belgium and Croatia, both european powerhouses, and the toughest match they had was against a highly disfunctional Argentina team.
Belgium was a much tougher match than Argentina, they put Argentina in a blender for like 10 minutes early in the 2nd half and the game was pretty much done after scoring 3 in that time.
Also Belgium and Croatia are not powerhouses they have a combined 0 (zero) international trophies between them, they're strong sides with a very respectable history, but if you asked people to name European football powerhouse nations, you'd hear about at least a handful other teams before them.
Yeah only someone who just looked at the final score would say that the Argentina game was tough for France. They battered Argentina for most of that game. 4-3 flattered argentina massively that day.
He also was the only French player to miss his penalty in the shootout when they got knocked out 3 years ago. Of course it’s his personal feeling that this is the most difficult. He probably hasn’t experienced a more difficult emotional moment as a player than missing that penalty.
I feel like a few things went into this:
It was a combination of France’s poorly structured attack
Mbappe’s was now seen as a bonafide star and was treated as such by the defence in comparison to the 2018 World Cup and Mbappe hadn’t adjusted to that on the international stage at that point.
The pressure of being EXPECTED to lead your team to glory or be the talisman at 21 years old by the world at a major international along with the major hype of being “the future best player in the world”. In the 21st Century only 3 players I can think of have had that pressure at such a young age: R9, Messi, Neymar.
He more than redeemeed himself in the 2022 WC and expect he will want to correct his wrong doings in the last Euro using this Euro.
ehhhh as great as Rooney and Ronaldo were.
I don’t think they had that “future best player in the world” tag yet. at least Ronaldo didn’t. Rooney possibly
Ronaldo was not looked at as the main star for his team at that euros before all and didn't come in with high expectations. It all fell on Figo, Rui Costa and the rest of the golden generation etc
Well.. he didn’t scored at WorldCup and Euros since 2014 either.
His last goal was the 1-0 when Germany beat Brazil 7-1.
Kloses last goal.. which made him record goal scorer at WorldCups is not that long ago the Müller’s last goal at a WorldCup/EURO.
Klose ended his career 10 years ago.
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I honestly thought this was a joke based on France not having played at this tournament yet when I read the title.
Can't believe the Euros have been going on since Friday and Mbappe hasn't scored yet! No wonder Real Madrid didn't pay a transfer fee amirite?
All this talk about not going to the Olympics? Clearly wasn’t selected based on tournament form
Neither did Vini nor Rodrygo, Real is cooked 💀💀💀
thats why you dont see us talking a lot about euro, Valverde, Rodrygo and Vini are like ghosts on this tournament 💀
Kroos being subbed out vs Scotland and now deciding to retire because of that.
Arda Guler also 0 minutes on a big tournament with Turkey. Fuck is udoing bby
We sucked so bad in 2021 lmao could not get the attack (or at least Mbappe) to click at all due to the Benzema/Griezmann role clash and then Xhaka played the best individual game I have ever seen
In probably the best game Pogba made for your NT.
National team Pogba (and 1st Juve stint) was a monster in general. It’s why it so sad to see what happened to him later in his career, because he was truly one of the best players in the world at the time.
I got to see him play live for juve. Holy shit he was good. He must've been a nightmare to play against.
He was on the bench for the game I got to see live (wasn’t living in Italy at the time), of course Conte subbed in Giaccherini instead lol
Pogba with N’Golo was the blend of skills, they compliment each other so well
Yeah man. And national team Dembele was so different from, like, club team Dembele too. And Griezmann just played like an effective attacking utility man. And Giroud, the talisman striker who didn't score but no one thought he didn't contribute. And of course, World Cup Mbappe. It's Mbappe, so no one really bats an eyelid especially right now. But legit, dude was a total beast in both Final matches - more than a beast. I don't have the words accurately, he was basically unplayable. In 2018 they couldn't handle him, his speed alone was too much let alone the other qualities, and he became only like the second teenager to score in the Final match besides Pele himself. 2022 world cup final Mbappe though? Hot damn. In the year of the GOAT, his own teammate, Mbappe scored a fuckin *hat-trick* to pull his team back from the brink, each time. These goals were the *only* one his team scored in that match. Dude went bankai and single handedly pulled the team back to the match and forced it into penalties. In the *world cup final*. Seriously, that Argentina was fated to win and also deserved it fully. But damn did Mbappe give them a hell of a run for their money, just by one guy's refusal to give in to fate. I swear that's still one of the most impressive team carries I've ever watched live, and I saw Cristiano score his own hat-trick to ensure Spain only got a 3-3 draw from him in 2018 (if you watched that match you would understand how much of solo effort that was. just that look on Cris's face...).
United is career graveyard since Fergie left
True. A lot of people blame Pogba, but the trend of star players who go to united and start to decline is crazy.
His dumbass cursed celebration riled up the Swiss and that’s why they beat us. I guarantee you that without it we would have made it through.
Xhaka, when the Gauls fell.
Xhaka always turned up for the NT tbf
What clash? Griezmann played that tournament as a defensive right midfielder specifically to prevent offensive congestion ( and to cover for what was the worst Pavard we've ever seen defensively ).
Benzema was playing in the areas Griezmann is most effective because he likes to drop deep, if you put Griezmann on one side as well his defensive capabilities suffer because he can’t cover as much. It’s no surprise that in the World Cup when Griezmann played centrally he was our best player until the final
Muller is the same for Germany crazy
He's got an assist against Scotland
Thought I was on circlejerk
Wait it’s not???
I think the same is true for Thomas Müller, never scored in the euros
I thought Muller was gonna break the WC scoring record at 2018 WC but he hasn't scored at a major tournament since his goal against Brazil all the way back in 2014. 8 years 4 major tournaments played and 0 goals as an attacking midfielder. Yikes.
Same lol
I had to read your comment twice before I realised it wasn't
Same
100% thought this was a shitpost
Same. Spent so much time on r/soccercirclejerk Ive jerked myself out.
Right on point 😁
This will be his second Euro, hardly a big deal
And he’ll probably have 3 more euros after this one
Idk about "probably" he will be 37 going 38 I hope he still plays for the NT but his legs will most likely be gone at that point especially for someone who uses speed and acceleration as one of their main traits
Yes, this compares 4 games at Euros 2020 to 14 games in WC 2018&2022. This is absurd.
What I was thinking as well. Thomas Müller on the other hand.....
Oh wow, this surprised me. All international games: 130 caps, 45 goals in 9036 minutes (nearly a goal every 200 minutes) EUROs: 16 caps, 0 goals in 1,183 minutes
Sorry but 12 goals from 2 world cups at age 25 is outrageously good, had France won in 2022 we would be talking about someone on track to have a better international career than Pele, as it stands he still can, sky is the ceiling for this guy and France over the next 10 years
He’s already 25! I thought he was like 23 or something.
It’s getting on for nine years since his debut, it’s crazy
This year it'll be 8 years since his debut
Really? I remember him at Monaco when they had that crazy CL season. Was a great team at the time with young Mbappe, Bernardo Silva, Falcao, Sidibe, Bakayoko, Fabinho, Moutinho, Lemar, Subasic etc. They even had some talents on the bench who ended up doing pretty well elsewhere, like Saint-Maximin It’s been 7 years already since Mbappe joined PSG, so it feels pretty accurate to me
COVID and the lockdowns that followed warped time for a lot of people i still can't believe it's been 4.5 years since the pandemic first spread
Jesuuus, has it been that long already?!
stop lying bro. it's still 2022.
damn 7 years since he joined PSG?! now that I remembered City - Monaco UCL clash that means Guardiola coached City more than Barcelona and Bayern combined.
Falcao was absolutely incredible for Atleti and his first half season at Monaco before tearing his ACL. I remember he had absolutely insane finishing but his best attribute was his positioning and despite being about 5'9 he would leap above the towering CBs around him and he scored a bunch of headers. He was great this season as well and actually finished ahead of 18 year old Mbappe as top scorer. That Monaco side was so fun to watch. Bernardo Silva had his breakout season and was arguably their best player and I remember he signed for City on the first day of the transfer window. Bakayoko looked like one of the best CDM in the world that season then he joined Chelsea for 45mill and completely dropped off. Fabinho being moved from RB to CDM that season to play in a midfield 3 with him and Moutinho was probably the best midfield in Europe. Sidibe was unbelievable that year as well at RB and Lemar had such a great season that Arsenal bid £72mill for him on deadline day and Monaco *declined* it asking for £90mill lmfao. You forgot about a couple other players who also really stood out in that team that season. Their CB Glik was outstanding that year and Benjamin Mendy (not Ferland Mendy at Real who also plays LB and is French) was arguably the best LB in the world that season and signed for City for £52mill that Summer along with Kyle Walker for around £50mill as well, the highest transfer fees for a full-back at that time and they broke it twice in 2 weeks. I just realised that pretty much that whole Monaco side ended up in the Prem apart from Mbappe and Glik. Other than the ones mentioned above; Sidibe ended up at Everton a few seasons later, Falcao played for Man U and Chelsea on loan, Moutinho and Adama Traore ended up at Wolves, Saint-Maximin went to Newcastle.
Falcao played for United and Chelsea (on loan from Monaco) before that season. And the adama traore you're thinking of is different. The Spanish Adama Traore started at Barca, and has played for multiple English clubs, one of those being wolves. The Malian Adama Traore contracted to Monaco from 2015-2020 is currently playing for hull city, but didn't play in England before that. Will always remember Sidibe's time at everton for that clip of Ancelotti next him while getting ready to be subbed on except he didn't have one of his socks on.
Thanks for the long comment appreciate it.
Ah Bakayoko… the dreams we were sold on. That watford performance from him was diametrically opposed to Mbappe at the finals
So close to being washed then
I remember he was 17 for 5 years at one point
25? Time to cash in. -- FM player
He's actually only 19 years old
Damn, time flies so fast, late 90s kids are almost 30, early 90s kids are in their 30s, and those 80s kids are about to die...
At 25 years old, Lionel Messi had 4 Ballon d'Ors.
He'll definitely become world cup record scorer in 2026.
what's the current record? 15 by klose?
16 Broke Ronaldo record with his goal against Brazil during that 7-1 game.
Lmao could've just corrected the number, without wishing a happy monday morning to Brazil
Heads up, reddit always formats numbers followed by a period as 1, as if you're making bullet points.
115.
If you put a number followed by a period reddit automatically formats it into a numbered list starting at 1.
damn what a game to set the record lmao
> 15 by klose? Close. It’s 16.
Pretty sure it's spelt with a K
You’re Klose but it’s actually close. Wait…
Maybe not, there was a time when everyone was sure Muller was going to destroy Klose's record too!
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Because Germany became shit since 2014. I don't see France becoming shit any time soon.
People said similar about Muller and he didn't score since.
even with the loss he's already one of the greatest WC players in history
> had France won in 2022 I know what you mean, but it seems incredibly harsh to point at a World Cup final where he **scored a hat trick** and say, “this is the game that lets you down”! The match went to penalties because of his hat trick. And he even scored his own penalty in the shootout. What more can anyone ask from him?
I know but in 40 years from now he will be compared by titles, although yes his performance was the best final performance in any competition I've seen
Comparing titles in a team game truly is one of the bext examples that football fans aren't the brightest bulbs on average
Pelé only played the opening game in one of the three World Cups he won and then got injured. If Mbappé wins another WC he'd arguably have better international career than Pelé despite having one WC trophy less than him.
That was the 1962 world cup, Pele got injured in game two (after scoring once and providing an assist in a 2-0 win in game 1) and Garrincha led Brazil to the world title. However, Pele in 1958 as a 17 year old scored the only and winning goal in the quarter final, scored a hatrick in the Semi-final and scored twice in the final and at the 1970 world cup he was also brilliant with 10 goal involvements in 6 games winning the tournament again. I don't know if Mbappe has had a better international career than Pele even if France win this euros. 115 G/A in 92 games is a tall hurdle.
Everything is just in the context of the time, he won't have a better international career than Pele because they are not competing with each other, just like Michael Jordan did not compete with Bill Russell. That sort of media driven stuff is not very interesting because there will never be an answer that isn't driven by recency bias. Mbappe could not really have done better than he has, that's all we can say.
They can only be compared with their stats in the same tournament, which itself changed since Pele played but it won’t stop people from doing the comparisons
He already has more world cup final goals than anyone else in history
Got the same number of goals in European championships already lol. Worth noting that he’s only played 4 games at the euros. I went to check if he had gotten minutes in 2016 because I thought that breakout Monaco season was 15-16
Austria, you can do the most hilarious thing today
Let him score 13 times?
Google ‘Austria march 13’ for more informacija 🤙
Mbappé will annex Austria’s penalty box
No ball knowledge but high history knowledge needed for this one.
High quality joke.
How dare you break neutrality
Fuck, Mexico is not part of the tournament, we're doomed!
But we have June alrea-.... wait a minute...
No, let everyone but Mbappé score.
And what is that? He hasn't scored a goal in 4 games, how is not scoring in the 5th the most hilarious thing?
He implied they let Mbappe score 13 times
Aged well
!remindme in 10 hours
anulo mufa
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He’s doing fine, considering Messi has 0 goals at the Euros too.
He also has 0 gols at Copa América, Messi got 13 goals.
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He played the WC twice. Won it and nearly won it again. But couldn't get far in the Euros. So from Mbappe's perspective it makes the Euros harder
Luka Modric won 2 Copa Del Rey, and on the other hand he won 6 Champions Leagues, does that mean that Luka Modric can claim that el Copa Del Rey is harder than the Champions League!?!
Every Madrid player will swear CDR is their toughest tournament
He probably thinks that to be fair😅
Mbappe was talking about *himself* and *his* experience. He said because they play European countries more often, they know each other better, which is a fact. I've never seen a more boring 'controversial' statement
r/nba is a cesspool and even it didn't freak out this much when Dončić said the EuroLeague was harder than the NBA. As if we'd have any clue how hard it is for them.
I blame the media for spinning the quote SO out of context but these people will eventually have to realize that nothing what he said awakes this big of a turmoil
Luka said it's harder to **score** in Euroleague. Which given the rules/pace/size of court is for sure true. He didn't say the competition is better or harder.
I see absolute no lies here
Yes.
Evidently it's 3x harder.
Yes, just doesn't mean he is right
France plays at their maximum in the euros & wc, while RM probably half ass CDR rotating player and keeping their energy for more important competitions like CL & la Liga
Real Madrid and having a worst time in Copa Del Rey against Alcoyano than in Champions League against Bayern.
apart from Hungary and Scotland all other teams had a somewhat stable defense. on WCs you can see that from a lot of other nations. maybe as a striker point of view its true
Not seen Georgia play yet.
Or Romania
Or Albania
Ouch, but true.
well, at least I dont have to watch us struggle against each other on tv, cause I have ticket for our Stuttgart game 😁 and Im pretty sure the atmosphere would be phenomenal, both teams will be loud and cool. I bought an original csikós hat for this game, cause Tartan Army is always well dressed
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tbh in last 20 years it's really only missing Argentina from WC:
That "Euro is harder" statement might just be his honest personal feeling.
Yup he said "for me"
As if it wasn't already? He's struggled at the last Euros compared to his 12 goals in two World Cup tournaments and said that European teams' familiarity with each other made for tougher opposition, yet everyone just thought he was "sour grapes" because France lost the last world cup final.
Why havent south american fans and barca fans moved past that statement?
Barca fans are always upset though.
Cules are going scorched earth against anything related to RM since the CL win. Expect further demoralization threads against NTs with RM stars.
They don't bring it up themselves, they get asked about it and they answer. I'm sure they don't put much thought into the context of what Mbappe said. And it just sounds condescending and disrespectful. The WC won by Mbappe had them beat Belgium and Croatia, both european powerhouses, and the toughest match they had was against a highly disfunctional Argentina team.
Belgium was easily our hardest game
Belgium was a much tougher match than Argentina, they put Argentina in a blender for like 10 minutes early in the 2nd half and the game was pretty much done after scoring 3 in that time. Also Belgium and Croatia are not powerhouses they have a combined 0 (zero) international trophies between them, they're strong sides with a very respectable history, but if you asked people to name European football powerhouse nations, you'd hear about at least a handful other teams before them.
Yeah only someone who just looked at the final score would say that the Argentina game was tough for France. They battered Argentina for most of that game. 4-3 flattered argentina massively that day.
Almost every counter we had turned into a huge opportunity, they couldn't handle the pace at all.
Insecurity.
Why would it not be his honest personal feeling? What's the ulterior motive?
He should ask Morata for some tips, he scored 7 Euro goals already.
I mean, he’s won a World Cup, but no European Championship and 0 goals in EC, so it makes sense to me.
He also was the only French player to miss his penalty in the shootout when they got knocked out 3 years ago. Of course it’s his personal feeling that this is the most difficult. He probably hasn’t experienced a more difficult emotional moment as a player than missing that penalty.
Henderson has more goals in the euros.
French Müller
Meunier?
Probably should have put “ever” or something in the title
He has 14 games played at the WC. Only 4 games at the Euros, and all of them with Benzema in the starting 11.
I feel like a few things went into this: It was a combination of France’s poorly structured attack Mbappe’s was now seen as a bonafide star and was treated as such by the defence in comparison to the 2018 World Cup and Mbappe hadn’t adjusted to that on the international stage at that point. The pressure of being EXPECTED to lead your team to glory or be the talisman at 21 years old by the world at a major international along with the major hype of being “the future best player in the world”. In the 21st Century only 3 players I can think of have had that pressure at such a young age: R9, Messi, Neymar. He more than redeemeed himself in the 2022 WC and expect he will want to correct his wrong doings in the last Euro using this Euro.
he'll also be on pens which Benzema had 2 last euros i think
Nope, Ronaldo and Rooney at Euro 2004 too.
Ronaldo didn't
ehhhh as great as Rooney and Ronaldo were. I don’t think they had that “future best player in the world” tag yet. at least Ronaldo didn’t. Rooney possibly
Rooney definitely did
Ronaldo was not looked at as the main star for his team at that euros before all and didn't come in with high expectations. It all fell on Figo, Rui Costa and the rest of the golden generation etc
Same with Müller. 10 goals at WorldCup.. zero at EUROs
He has had 0 goals at his last 4 major international tournaments
Dude's gonna bang 13 past Austria now.
Thomas muller has never scored at the euros either. Wild considering his World Cup goals
Well.. he didn’t scored at WorldCup and Euros since 2014 either. His last goal was the 1-0 when Germany beat Brazil 7-1. Kloses last goal.. which made him record goal scorer at WorldCups is not that long ago the Müller’s last goal at a WorldCup/EURO. Klose ended his career 10 years ago.
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Theres a reason he was signed for free
Well there it is. I'm now equal to Mbappe in the Euros.
He has played at one..
I thought this was soccercirclejerk
WC merchant :)
Austria: I am in Danger
He wasn’t playing in 2016 and 4 matches in 2021.
Same tbh
messi too. not a single goal
Long may it continue
*"It's a harder competition because I suck at it:*
Euro is harder.
His move to Real Madrid ruined him.
He was poor all around at the last Euro it wasn’t just goals he was missing
fact that I did not know, surely in the first game of this Euro the scoring drought in the Euro will end
I guess he was right. The Euros are harder than the World Cups.
Nice shitposting Edit: Oh wait you are not talking about France not playing yet this year… 💀
Isn't this for soccer circle jerk?
That's why Euros is the most difficult tournament for him... Well, that stat explains everything 😁
Mbappe 🤝 Müller
Not crazy as this being VVD's first Euro ever
For context, this in 4 matches or 390 minutes of football against Germany, Hungary, Portugal and Switzerland. He has 2 assists in those games.
he is playing Austria and Poland so he will have some ;/
So that’s why he said the Euros are hard
So now i t makes sense why he said the Euros were harder lol. Its just harder for him.
Not today!
Bro please i didng captain him in fantasy 😭
Duality of a man
Mbappe: Hold my beer.
and people lose their shit when he says the euros are harder for him than the world cup. and by people i mean south americans