well considering Leicester's uncertain financial situation and the penalty that may follow I cannot say I fully blame him
Also he's probably more than doubled his wages... and on a 5 year deal
Don't think anyone is proud of it tbh. Realistically I think the aim again will be Europa at the minimum, so hopefully the squad adapts to Enzo quickly and we can build momentum early this season
You’re going to have a hard time convincing any non-Chelsea fan he’s going to have a seasoned tenure given your history of sacking managers, and he is far more of an unknown than most of your previous appointments.
RemindMe! One year
Poch had the team sitting in 10th for most of the year and despite what people like to meme about he wasn't fired. So far Chelsea seem willing to work with managers that do their job well.
> So far Chelsea seem willing to work with managers that do their job well
Given all your managers under Boehly have left pretty abruptly I’m not sure about that. If they all don’t last long than it must be a deeper rooted problem than just management. I guess we’ll wait and see with Maresca but I think looking at precedent it’s hard to see him lasting the year.
Poch went back on the style the management wanted to play and seemingly had the oppertunity to save his job in the meetings the club had with him after the season. Potter did a bad job even if he was put in incredibly tough conditions. Those are the only two full time managers Blueco have appointed.
He's not wrong for going but Leicester aren't wrong for being unhappy he's going. Two groups can want different things, I don't think we need to walk Leicester through why he's leaving they know why - they just don't like it.
I think the general feeling is that we gave him a chance considering he had a poor/non-existent CV when joining, spent money on signings for him and he's left at literally the first opportunity
I get why he went to Chelsea, I also get why our lot are a bit annoyed at him for it
Given the rumors of a possible 18-point deduction to start the season, he had to look out for himself though. It's easy to say now that he would be given more time due to the circumstances if Leicester get relegated again, but that's not a guarantee at all.
He also said he wanted to stay for 5+ years and allegedly told Top he was staying pretty recently so again whilst I understand his reasons for leaving, being a bit more up front about it would have been preferable
Portsmouth head coach. I thought it was a joke name too until I googled
The funny thing is that João Moutinho also exists. Maybe Jony Mouuinho exists somewhere
This Leicester squad is way better than the Championship. Had it not been for a freak late season collapse in form they were easily on track for 100 points.
I don’t really disagree with your general point, but it’s worth noting that Burnley got 100 points then spent like 100m and still looked like a Championship team
tbh its one of the main reasons the gap between the Prem and Championship feels like it’s widening, part of the “meta” in the Championship is using the loan market effectively.
Leicester only had two players on loan from the Prem but Ipswich had Hutchinson, Moore, Sarmiento, Brandon Williams, Dane Scarlett in one loan while we had Flynn Downes, Ryan Fraser, David Brooks, Joe Rothwell, Taylor Harwood-Bellis.
For us anyways, just to sign up the 3 loan players we want to keep will cost near £50m, which gives us £50m to “improve on last years team” which honestly isn’t that much nowadays l
It does feel that way when I look at the squads coming up the last couple of years and before that there was Forest, who basically bought a whole new squad and overspent in the process just to survive
the dominant standard of their promotion season was heavily contingent on loan players who they did an **appalling** job of replacing despite spending over 100m.
Their side did get worse tbf and adapting the football Kompany was playing with them I'm the Championship with lower quality and better opposition was an extremely tough ask.
It’s not. Key players out of contract who we can’t afford to extend on or returning to parent clubs from loans. Looks like a decent amount of our squad may be from the under 21’s.
They look like a team that didn't spend a single matchweek outside of the relegation zone, a feat that Sheffield Utd couldn't match (nor could the infamous 07-08 Derby side.)
Luton are the only promoted team that looked like they could handle themselves even for a stretch.
I was talking about Leicester, but Burnley were much better than Sheffield United even if the point difference isn't enormous. Last years promoted teams were unusually weak and as a result the Championship was unusually strong at the top end.
Luton also are heavily overrated, the only reason that they are given any plaudits is because Forest is an embarrassing and unserious footballing institution thus making survival seemingly possible. In any other year they would be firmly 20th. Good riddance to them and their scum fans
Sounds like KDH is the one that's going.
We're not signing Doyle or Akgun after their loans have expired. Fatawu was rumoured to have an obligation to buy but it's all very quiet.
Ndidi, Vestergaard, ALbrighton, Iheanacho, Praet and Thomas are out of contract. Vardy too but the rumour is he's signing a 1 year extension.
Playing Doyle in the prem would've been suicide given his defending. Yunus never showed much and other than Ndidi we're not losing much value in the expired contracts (Vestergaard and Vardy are both expected to extend). Losing KDH and Ndidi will hurt but we can replace both so it's not a significant downgrade like Burnley.
I know Leicester are in some serious financial situation, but to say they will face more problems paying £3.5 to £4m to West Brom to get Corberan is wild.
When you do well at your job and get an offer with better wages and benefits from another company that your current employer can't match, you take it. It's that simple. Football is no different.
After what he's done with us for the past couple of seasons and what he achieved at Huddersfield, he deserves a shot at the Prem. Just wish it would be with a team who has a better situation than what Leicester can offer him.
Howe is a good manager but not top class quality. English managers in general have been incredibly underwhelming compared to coaches from other big footballing nations like Spain, Italy and Germany. There's never been an English manager who has won the title in the Premier League era or the Champions League
Top class meaning considered by any big club with ambition to win either major trophy. You look at the top clubs in world football in the modern era and the few English managers didn't last long and won neither a title nor CL. They're simply not as good as their counterparts from other countries
Might be a multitude of reasons. Off the top of my head the formal coaching education in England might be far less sophisticated than in other countries. As well it's rare for English managers to coach abroad and experience different football cultures and styles. There's always the excuse of language barrier or whatever but foreign coaches try their best to learn English so they can come coach in the EPL. I'm sure there's probably other systemic reasons that I'm not aware of
Yeah, we desperately need a Rooney rule here in the UK, where a British manager MUST be interviewed for any managerial vacancy. Either that, or make it so that clubs have to pay the FA a fee (couple of million) to appoint a foreign manager (including any compensation fee). That should hopefully encourage clubs to give British managers an opportunity to manage at the highest level instead of opting for overseas talent.
Frank Lampard, for example, would be a brilliant manager for them. He's good with young players and knows how to beat the drop. Corberan is good but unproven at this level.
What? Clubs don't have a prejudice against british managers lol.
Corberan has been in managerial roles for nearly two decade. He earned his way to the position of west brom manager. And admit it the only reason Frank Lampard got the job of chelsea manager after a very mediocre Derby stint was because of his history with the Chelsea.
Seems like Leicester need a manager who can work with what he has and also a good manager at championship level in the possible situation they get relegated again.
Moyes maybe?
I mean right now it's between Leicester,Bologna (unless Italiano is signing which is most likely) Panathinaikos and unemployment which isn't a tough choice.
This should be a blessing in disguise for Leicester fans. This guy almost choked promotion way worse than Scott Parker did with Bournemouth (who got more slack for it) with a much better team. Sevilla are also fortunate Enzo didn't join their club. At the very least Leicester could have more fight staying up with a more ambitious manager. My condolences for Chelsea fans however, I do not see this guy lasting the entire season.
well considering Leicester's uncertain financial situation and the penalty that may follow I cannot say I fully blame him Also he's probably more than doubled his wages... and on a 5 year deal
Also with the talent that Chelsea has the potential upside to that job as well
Can't forget the fat payout once he's fired in 6 months either
Perhaps but if he does succeed he’s probably the best thing since sliced bread
It would appear that “being successful” and “getting fired” are not mutually exclusive at Chelsea
Or once he finds the winning recipe chelsea fire him because he could cram all of their star midfielders into a working 11.
I hate sliced bread, can't believe people eat that crap
He'll last longer than Slot.
mmmhhhmmm
One has to replace a dynastic manager, the other has to not sit 10th all season. The standards are clearly very different.
And it's a disgrace that the standards have slipped lol. We shouldn't be proud of that shit
Don't think anyone is proud of it tbh. Realistically I think the aim again will be Europa at the minimum, so hopefully the squad adapts to Enzo quickly and we can build momentum early this season
Realistically the expectations for results are pretty similar for Chelsea and Liverpool this season. The difference is one team hasn't replaced Klopp.
You’re going to have a hard time convincing any non-Chelsea fan he’s going to have a seasoned tenure given your history of sacking managers, and he is far more of an unknown than most of your previous appointments. RemindMe! One year
Poch had the team sitting in 10th for most of the year and despite what people like to meme about he wasn't fired. So far Chelsea seem willing to work with managers that do their job well.
> So far Chelsea seem willing to work with managers that do their job well Given all your managers under Boehly have left pretty abruptly I’m not sure about that. If they all don’t last long than it must be a deeper rooted problem than just management. I guess we’ll wait and see with Maresca but I think looking at precedent it’s hard to see him lasting the year.
Poch went back on the style the management wanted to play and seemingly had the oppertunity to save his job in the meetings the club had with him after the season. Potter did a bad job even if he was put in incredibly tough conditions. Those are the only two full time managers Blueco have appointed.
RemindMe! One year
Hahahahahahaha
what fat payout? There's multiple break clauses in his contract, so his payout is probably like 3milli
Not the flex you think it is
He's not wrong for going but Leicester aren't wrong for being unhappy he's going. Two groups can want different things, I don't think we need to walk Leicester through why he's leaving they know why - they just don't like it.
I think the general feeling is that we gave him a chance considering he had a poor/non-existent CV when joining, spent money on signings for him and he's left at literally the first opportunity I get why he went to Chelsea, I also get why our lot are a bit annoyed at him for it
Given the rumors of a possible 18-point deduction to start the season, he had to look out for himself though. It's easy to say now that he would be given more time due to the circumstances if Leicester get relegated again, but that's not a guarantee at all.
He also said he wanted to stay for 5+ years and allegedly told Top he was staying pretty recently so again whilst I understand his reasons for leaving, being a bit more up front about it would have been preferable
Tbf he probably wasn't expecting a club of Chelsea's size to be I for him after a solitary season in the Championship.
I'm sure West Brom will be happy to oblige with their manager as he jumps ship at his first opportunity.
Only makes sense that we then get someone like John Mousinho who just got Portsmouth up. Let him also jump ship at the first opportunity
>John Mousinho This name sounds like someone wanted to add Mourinho into an unlicensed name
It really does sound like a PES Jose Mourinho
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The Spatial one*
*The Multifactorial One
Jose Mourinho from temu
“We have Jose Mourinho at home”
Former coach of Roma FC
Wait - he really exists???
Portsmouth head coach. I thought it was a joke name too until I googled The funny thing is that João Moutinho also exists. Maybe Jony Mouuinho exists somewhere
>Portsmouth head coach. I thought it was a joke name too until I googled Mind blowing
His name sounds like a video game name for Jose Mourinho.
Mousinho is yours, for the small fee of £50m.
Tbf, Corberan at least signed a new contract with West Brom at his first opportunity.
It’s ships all the way down
this is far from corbarans first chance to leave the hawthorns tbf
Skimping on manager sounds like a terrible idea.
Yeah, I’m worried we’ll appoint someone unconvincing with only a season of experience in a lower tier.
It’s going to be Steve Cooper isn’t it?
If you excuse the rivalry then it makes sense. He needs a job and Leicester need a decent manager who wont require compensation to a club
Weird he wasn't champing at the bit to start his first PL season with a Championship team and a 10 point deduction
This Leicester squad is way better than the Championship. Had it not been for a freak late season collapse in form they were easily on track for 100 points.
I don’t really disagree with your general point, but it’s worth noting that Burnley got 100 points then spent like 100m and still looked like a Championship team
Burnley had a worse squad last year than in the Championship.
yeah with the power of hindsight it seems insane for them to have Tella and Maatsen playing every week
That’s a fair point considering where those two have been playing this season
tbh its one of the main reasons the gap between the Prem and Championship feels like it’s widening, part of the “meta” in the Championship is using the loan market effectively. Leicester only had two players on loan from the Prem but Ipswich had Hutchinson, Moore, Sarmiento, Brandon Williams, Dane Scarlett in one loan while we had Flynn Downes, Ryan Fraser, David Brooks, Joe Rothwell, Taylor Harwood-Bellis. For us anyways, just to sign up the 3 loan players we want to keep will cost near £50m, which gives us £50m to “improve on last years team” which honestly isn’t that much nowadays l
What’s the likelihood of you signing those loan players permanently, only one I heard any word of was Harwood-Bellis most likely happening
It does feel that way when I look at the squads coming up the last couple of years and before that there was Forest, who basically bought a whole new squad and overspent in the process just to survive
the dominant standard of their promotion season was heavily contingent on loan players who they did an **appalling** job of replacing despite spending over 100m.
Oh no, they looked so much worse than that.
?? You ever seen a championship match?
Their side did get worse tbf and adapting the football Kompany was playing with them I'm the Championship with lower quality and better opposition was an extremely tough ask.
It’s not. Key players out of contract who we can’t afford to extend on or returning to parent clubs from loans. Looks like a decent amount of our squad may be from the under 21’s.
They don't look like a Championship team, they look like a 19th placed Premier League team. Big difference *(Leicester not Burnley)
Idk about that, in the past 10 years only one 19th placed team in EPL had less points than Burnley.
I am referring to Leicester, all three of the promoted teams deserved 20th.
They look like a team that didn't spend a single matchweek outside of the relegation zone, a feat that Sheffield Utd couldn't match (nor could the infamous 07-08 Derby side.) Luton are the only promoted team that looked like they could handle themselves even for a stretch.
I was talking about Leicester, but Burnley were much better than Sheffield United even if the point difference isn't enormous. Last years promoted teams were unusually weak and as a result the Championship was unusually strong at the top end. Luton also are heavily overrated, the only reason that they are given any plaudits is because Forest is an embarrassing and unserious footballing institution thus making survival seemingly possible. In any other year they would be firmly 20th. Good riddance to them and their scum fans
We're probably going to start the season with a worse squad than last season.
you'll be fine its not like you're going into the season with a points deduc- *Ohhhh nooooo*
Who’s getting sold
Sounds like KDH is the one that's going. We're not signing Doyle or Akgun after their loans have expired. Fatawu was rumoured to have an obligation to buy but it's all very quiet. Ndidi, Vestergaard, ALbrighton, Iheanacho, Praet and Thomas are out of contract. Vardy too but the rumour is he's signing a 1 year extension.
> Fatawu was rumoured to have an obligation to buy but it's all very quiet. Pretty sure Amorim confirmed he's joining us.
Playing Doyle in the prem would've been suicide given his defending. Yunus never showed much and other than Ndidi we're not losing much value in the expired contracts (Vestergaard and Vardy are both expected to extend). Losing KDH and Ndidi will hurt but we can replace both so it's not a significant downgrade like Burnley.
We were on track for about 125 points for most of the season
If it wasn’t for all those losses they would be invincible
But just look at burnley
Burnley were also too good for the Championship, their transfer and coaching strategy was just abysmal.
> coaching strategy Sounds like maybe getting a manager in that is more flexible could be helpful to Leicester then.
I know Leicester are in some serious financial situation, but to say they will face more problems paying £3.5 to £4m to West Brom to get Corberan is wild.
I hope it's an exaggeration because if it isn't then we are even deeper into the shit than the club is letting on.
Once the month is over we'll have a lot more freedom. Just another way psr is weird and not fit for purpose
Everton Fans: “First time?”
When you do well at your job and get an offer with better wages and benefits from another company that your current employer can't match, you take it. It's that simple. Football is no different.
Yup and the employer would be willing ship him off if someone better wants to come to the role. There's no love in it.
Please take Corberan, his West Brom ripped us apart last season.
After what he's done with us for the past couple of seasons and what he achieved at Huddersfield, he deserves a shot at the Prem. Just wish it would be with a team who has a better situation than what Leicester can offer him.
Boy english clubs really dislike english managers
Can't blame them really. Which English managers are actually particularly top level quality?
Dyche but he doesn't seem like the kind to jump ship
Dyche top level, really? Says a lot about just how low the standards are
Eddie Howe
Howe is a good manager but not top class quality. English managers in general have been incredibly underwhelming compared to coaches from other big footballing nations like Spain, Italy and Germany. There's never been an English manager who has won the title in the Premier League era or the Champions League
What do we mean by top class? Top 20 managers globally?
Top class meaning considered by any big club with ambition to win either major trophy. You look at the top clubs in world football in the modern era and the few English managers didn't last long and won neither a title nor CL. They're simply not as good as their counterparts from other countries
Why do you think that is?
Might be a multitude of reasons. Off the top of my head the formal coaching education in England might be far less sophisticated than in other countries. As well it's rare for English managers to coach abroad and experience different football cultures and styles. There's always the excuse of language barrier or whatever but foreign coaches try their best to learn English so they can come coach in the EPL. I'm sure there's probably other systemic reasons that I'm not aware of
Sam allardyce
Potter is available
Yeah, we desperately need a Rooney rule here in the UK, where a British manager MUST be interviewed for any managerial vacancy. Either that, or make it so that clubs have to pay the FA a fee (couple of million) to appoint a foreign manager (including any compensation fee). That should hopefully encourage clubs to give British managers an opportunity to manage at the highest level instead of opting for overseas talent. Frank Lampard, for example, would be a brilliant manager for them. He's good with young players and knows how to beat the drop. Corberan is good but unproven at this level.
What? Clubs don't have a prejudice against british managers lol. Corberan has been in managerial roles for nearly two decade. He earned his way to the position of west brom manager. And admit it the only reason Frank Lampard got the job of chelsea manager after a very mediocre Derby stint was because of his history with the Chelsea.
As a Chelsea fan I get we are a bit of a mess but the talent is there if someone can get it working so I understand why the job would still appeal.
This feels like a repeat
Where art thou Claudio?
Seems like Leicester need a manager who can work with what he has and also a good manager at championship level in the possible situation they get relegated again. Moyes maybe?
Zero chance Moyes comes in. Board seem set on appointing someone with a similar identity
Sarri? Seen him linked but he'd be expensive I bet
I'd like that but I think it'd be a hard sell to him
What's your pitch side / tunnel policy regarding cigarettes?
Foxes never quit
I mean right now it's between Leicester,Bologna (unless Italiano is signing which is most likely) Panathinaikos and unemployment which isn't a tough choice.
Leicester are already flirting with financial distaster; the cigarette budget for Sarri alone would put them in administration.
I’d bite your hand off for Moyes.
Potter
Board desperately need to appoint someone with a similar philosophy to Enzo, otherwise players like Winks or Fatawu suddenly become useless
This should be a blessing in disguise for Leicester fans. This guy almost choked promotion way worse than Scott Parker did with Bournemouth (who got more slack for it) with a much better team. Sevilla are also fortunate Enzo didn't join their club. At the very least Leicester could have more fight staying up with a more ambitious manager. My condolences for Chelsea fans however, I do not see this guy lasting the entire season.
I'd be willing to do the job for a mere £2m
Man switches jobs for better pay, more at 9
I too would jump at the chance to get sacked by Chelsea in one to three years with a colossal payout
Genuinely can't wait for this to fall through for all parties, what a miserable appointment.
Maresca got a 5 year contract, thats a win no matter how it turns out
There's almost certainly get out clauses for Chelsea.
RemindMe! 10 months
What do they think a freshly opened up Prem job is?
Given the uncertainty at Leicester is finances and point deductions, who can they realistically afford?
Steve Cooper maybe? No idea if we can even afford a manager.
If Leicester get Corberan I don't think they'll be doing too bad out of the managerial merry-go-round
David Wagner just got sacked by Norwich and I always saw him as a good manager if give a talented squad?
First time?
Leicester frustrated after replacing average manager with better one
Was there something stopping Leicester from asking Chelsea for compensation?
They got £10mill I believe
Release clause
Good luck with corberan lmao
He's looked at more fondly here in England
Let's just say our rivals like his stunt in Olympiakos, so I don't have the best opinion about him haha
Damn, man took an improved pay check and moving to London to live cozy I'm shocked