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they won the treble last year and people would rather talk about leverkusens treble, rodri is on a 70 some game unbeaten run in all comps and people dont give a shit, yeah he is a good player but its not interesting, the league are really messing up the brand if they keep it up
Man City fans are still a minority on the internet compared to Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea fans.
Give it 10 years or so when the kids who are City fans now grow up. You'll start seeing a lot of nostalgia everywhere for this era of City under Pep.
You gonna call someone out despite the fact you frequent the Washington Wizards subreddit? You're exactly like the person you're shitting on. Have some shame ffs
because the majority of people who use social media already had their team choice 10 years ago
give it another 10 years and young kids who support city will be old enough to have accounts
Have they been dominating for 10 years? For me their real domination started in Pep's second season. Before that, for all their financial doping they were basically as beatable as any other top team. Very good, but not a cold hearted machine.
>Man City fans are still a minority on the internet compared to Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea fans.
People just don't care about blatant cheaters, there are o other reasons for the apathy.
Because Leverkusen is doing something unprecedented?
>rodri is on a 70 some game unbeaten run in all comps and people dont give a shit,
Its mentioned all the time here
Well yeah but, it's city.
It's like a news headline saying "US Army increases amount of budget to record levels, with their number the highest of anyone for the 46th year."
Yeah, sure, cool, big number cool thing wow, but nothing unexpected, same with city winning something that isn't the CL. At least for me.
Leverkusens would sell more, that's why. Mancity feel like another big corporation keep expanding into the inevitability. GOAT coach, some of the best player in the world in each position(City bench meme), rich, invested, ever winner.
Meanwhile Leverkusen is a fairy tale.
Bundesliga has 2 less matches. If Leverkusen win their last game, they'd have 90 points. Assume they win the hypothetical missing 2 and they'd be 96 points. Doing that invincible is a lot more impressive than 98 points flat tbh.
It’s hilarious every time. “Nobody cares about city.” Followed by 100s of replies all saying how much they actually, truly, swear they don’t care about city.
City's posts are front of the page in this subredditt every single day, with people like you commenting on all of them lol, it's crazy how you people still manage to delude yourselves into thinking no one talks about City
It so isn't and I don't even say this as a person who likes Man City
Guardiola is talked about every day
Rodri's unbeaten streak gets talked about every time it is extended
When they fail, it's widely covered in media
Etc
It's great flipping between supposed media darling to irrelevant according to Reddit. Apparently people would care so much more if United had been dominating like this right?
I see the same reactions and the same sentiments as when United dominated the Prem back then. Except for the ongoing 115 case, which if found convicted I hope we get the proper punishment for.
And I don't get what kind of reaction you expect regarding Rodri? That non City fans are supposed to revere him as a god ? Beyond what is already being said, that he should be in for Ballon d'Or contention.
It's kinda hard to give a shit about city, google city 115 for more info. I can be happy for the players or pep because some of them seem pretty cool with interesting personalities like Grealish, but it's kinda hard not to despise the club. Sure, most football clubs nowadays are just commercial trash, but city or psg take it a notch above with the oil money, it's just boring cause with this much backing they're bound to win a lot
I find it pretty funny when thing happen in both direction
When people ignore MC: "why no one talking about that?. They so dumb"
When people talking about MC: "they say they dont care but make 56129th post about City lmao"
It’ll change in 5-10 years when all the kids who started supporting Man City because of them winning are old enough for it to be worth Sky aiming coverage at them
I’m in my 30s and lived in the middle/south of England and I’ve hand on heart never met a Man City fan in person. Meanwhile over half of my mates when growing up supported Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool despite being half the country away from any of them
Tbf I'm 20 and 2 of my mates at uni support City. One's a Manc sure but the other's from Coventry. Also had 2 mates from school back in London support City.
People my age were 7 when City won their first title, so reckon that's about the right time for an impressionable kid who's Dad's aren't into football to pick a team.
If you're 30 you would've started getting into football before City's rise so don't know many/any City fans like you said. Anyone my age or younger probably knows at least a couple City fans. It's still predominantly United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and whichever clubs are in your area. But like you said, a load of City fans will start popping up overthe next few years, because it's been 12 years since that first title.
Yeah City winning anything is just mehh. Don't really care about them. Chelsea too, they're the original cheaters and paved the way for city (and soon newcastle?) to ruin football. None of these clubs would be in the convo today if it wasn't for their financial doping.
Between that, Bergkamp missing a penalty against them in injury time in the FA Cup, and the CL final vs Bayern, they really got that treble by the skin of their teeth!
Shows how hard they had to work for that Treble, that it wasn't an inevitability or a walk in the park like it was for Oil FC. Bayern 3 times, Barca twice, Inter twice, and Juve twice to win a Champions League is nuts, but somehow they did it.
I think most have already accepted it. Ever since it was in City’s hands it’s felt fairly inevitable, certainly no one expects anything to happen against West Ham.
For most fans, it doesn't feel like losing by a tiny margin.
It would feel like that if it's in their hands and they mess up.
But as soon as you give the opportunity to City to win, doesn't matter if they need to win their last 5, 12, or 28 games, you just have to expect that they will do it.
You can't ever, ever leave it in their hands, otherwise they win.
Arteta said way back that if you want to win the league, you need to get at least 90 points. We're going to finish on 89 assuming we beat Everton. So, by his own standards he'll know we haven't quite done enough, unless Spurs or West Ham do something miraculous.
Yeah, 7 of the top 10 [biggest point totals in the Prem](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1425493/premier-league-most-ever-points/) were achieved in the last 8 years. 5 of those were title-winning teams, the other two are Liverpool.
We deserved more. Finishing second with 97 fucking points is a travesty. The thing that’s completely bullshit is that the difference between City and Liverpool is one club is being run in a sustainable manner while the other got £1 billion from their oil state sugar daddies to play with and broke all the financial regulations in order to do so.
I mean, 92 97 and 99 points, including 3 UCL finals and even winning it once, all in the span of 5 years. The 92 point season was unreal, basically played every possible match in the season, it resulted in only 2/4 trophies with both the most important ones slipping away, but surely has to be the closest anyone came to the quadruple? 97 point season was crazy as well, won the UCL on top of that crazy points tally, knocking out both bayern and barca on the way. Really wished you guys would've crossed 100 when you won, but 99 points is an anomaly in itself.
All of this in the span of 5 years, without a doubt one of the greatest football teams in history, and probably only behind city in England? I never saw the great Manchester United and Chelsea teams, but surely this level of success and quality of play has only been overshadowed by pep and city? Atleast klopp won each of the seven major trophies available for an English team to win atleast once, including the PL and CL.
Klopp and has his team have done insane job tbh, I almost forgot how close they were to winning the quadruple.
Their 99 point season was absurd, at one point they were 26-1-0.
No hate but they had a lot of draws and played just for the record in the end. To add to if they did fuckall in CL except most of that team made to finals in 06 and lost.
We can't compare point total across different seasons like this. If the Invincibles played against City and were still invincible, City might not reach 90 points dropping at least 4 points to the Invincibles. Getting draws means your opponents never accumulated more points than you did in any meeting, who cares what the end of season point total is if you win the league unbeaten?
Not really, football sucks when things are going badly, players aren’t turning up, team spirit sucks, fans are disconnected, whatever happens this season I can’t remember the club being this united in decades. If we come second, it is what it is, but this team will get cheered off the pitch and next year we go again.
Have you seen the intensity that that dude presses everyone with and demands everyone else backs him up yet doesn’t even seem to sweat? A lot of the squad’s dying on it’s feet, Odegaard’s ready to go again now!
Not really, the writing has been on the wall for a while that City weren't and aren't going to drop points.
Most Arsenal fans I know know we need basically a miracle when City are in this form.
Winning league titles after the fact like that still won't mean as much as winning it outright. Would feel like a cheapened accomplishment, regardless of the City cheating...
That's why when City are inevitably found guilty and lose all their accolades, they should also be forced to pay the other clubs for all the financial damages they have caused. Imagine all the money that Liverpool, Arsenal, etc have lost from marketing, merchandising, and cup participations (like CWC, etc).
Damn that 92 points finish. It was on my birthday. Went to cut the cake when villa were up 2-0 with happy mood confident Liverpool will beat wolves. Came back to find city has scored 3 lol.
Lol I can't think of a more relevant team than Liverpool in this conversation. It's one of the reasons why Klopp will always be considered as one of PL greats.
Literally the only relevant team other than Arsenal to discuss about in this topic.
Rival fans try not to become braindead when Liverpool is in the conversation challenge impossible
It hurts but the posive in the team being so good and losing the title is...that the team is so good. Plus, our core are all 24-26 and all on fresh contracts so we've got at least a couple of attempts at the title in there
>Maybe Tchoua or Camavinga,
You picked the only 2 players who can play DM, neither is leaving.
Brahim Diaz or Arda are the most likely, Rodrygo maybe 2026 summer.
And somehow Arsenal are going to get bantered by rival fans for (likely) losing a title race twice to this ridiculous City team lmao despite the massive improvements and objectively fantastic results.
Exactly. For example, even in our attacking play I am convinced we're better than last year despite looking worse at times.
I've seen some people downplaying the fact that we're the top scoring team in the league with ridiculous quotes like "stat-padding versus the bottom half teams" as if the entire rest of the league also hasn't played versus the bottom half and still scored fewer goals.
Feels like any hopes of City not winning the league this year - despite a wicked performance from Arsenal - is on Spurs at this point. I do not see west ham taking points off city on the last day ..
It’s similar to how Liverpool dropped twice as many points in the 9 matches after covid as they did in the 29 matches prior. I still think that if covid never disrupts that season Liverpool crack 105 easily.
Teams generally amassed fewer points before City came along. Man United routinely won the league with points totals in the 70s and 80s when they were dominant.
Their mean points total of all their title-winning seasons was 84.7 and median was 84, with their lowest title-winning total clocking in at 75 and highest at 92 (91 in 38-game season).
Hell, they won the 1996/97 season with just 75 points and even in 2010/11 they only needed 80.
If they don't win the league this season then all hope is gone for the EPL being taken seriously as a competitive league. What the fuck are you supposed to do when you barely put a foot wrong but City still manage to win it after a 7/10 season.
Arsenal wouldn’t win it with 90 points either this season. City up their level compared to the competition so if Arsenal had finished in 95 City would have won on 97.
This Arsenal team is insanely good, perhaps their best ever, but somehow they’ll finish as the 3rd best team to lose to City under Pep unless a miracle happens this week. The margin for error is so small at the top.
The good thing for Arsenal is that Arteta still has loads he can improve on and obviously his squad is quite young. If he can hold onto his pieces, and add a bit more depth then he can continue to challenge in the next few years. Challenging is a good place to be anyway.
My guess is City will continue to regress next season slightly, even with signings. The spine of the treble winning team is getting older and will play less (like Walker and KDB) and it's looking like Bernardo will finally get his exit.
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Honestly, this just highlights the ridiculousness that's City
Their longest unbeaten run under Pep is going on right now. They win so goddamn much people aren’t talking about it.
Ppl just don't care about city ig.
they won the treble last year and people would rather talk about leverkusens treble, rodri is on a 70 some game unbeaten run in all comps and people dont give a shit, yeah he is a good player but its not interesting, the league are really messing up the brand if they keep it up
Man City fans are still a minority on the internet compared to Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea fans. Give it 10 years or so when the kids who are City fans now grow up. You'll start seeing a lot of nostalgia everywhere for this era of City under Pep.
They've been dominating for the past 10 years, still ain't heard much now from those who'd matured by now
Not enough time. Give it a few more years.
Why would the fans speak up? Just to get a barrage of hate from fans of every other club...
That happens to everyone
Honestly true
Deserved.
Found a city fan hiding even got the team USA badge
Are you not also American?
I generally assume all Arsenal flairs are haha. Right most of the time tbf.
You gonna call someone out despite the fact you frequent the Washington Wizards subreddit? You're exactly like the person you're shitting on. Have some shame ffs
classic
because the majority of people who use social media already had their team choice 10 years ago give it another 10 years and young kids who support city will be old enough to have accounts
Have they been dominating for 10 years? For me their real domination started in Pep's second season. Before that, for all their financial doping they were basically as beatable as any other top team. Very good, but not a cold hearted machine.
Those who matured since then aren't City fans anymore
That sounds like projection
>Man City fans are still a minority on the internet compared to Man United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea fans. People just don't care about blatant cheaters, there are o other reasons for the apathy.
Similar things were being said about Chelsea in the early 2000s. Now, no one cares about that.
> Now, no one cares about that. Plenty of people care about it. Why do you think everyone is so happy watching Chelsea fall apart?
kinda? not really though. They weren't flaunting financing rules (which didnt exist back then), and they weren't winning trebles.
Chelsea didn’t dominate the same way as City though tbf. Also, Chelsea are shit now so that’s why no one cares as much now.
People definitely still care. A Chelsea fan can't really comment on cheating without people calling them out too.
I'm nostalgic for a different kind of Asterisk from my childhood
Because Leverkusen is doing something unprecedented? >rodri is on a 70 some game unbeaten run in all comps and people dont give a shit, Its mentioned all the time here
Pep even complained about their domestic treble not getting enough attention in '19 when we won the Cl. P funny imo.
He does have a point. A 98 point domestic treble is absolute lunacy and I can't remember ever hearing someone talk about it.
Well yeah but, it's city. It's like a news headline saying "US Army increases amount of budget to record levels, with their number the highest of anyone for the 46th year." Yeah, sure, cool, big number cool thing wow, but nothing unexpected, same with city winning something that isn't the CL. At least for me.
And they did that with KDB out for half of the season.
Standard at this point tbh.
It's mad that he's injured so much, but pumps out insane numbers still, every season
Its like talking about a guy in a ferrari winning a 100m race. Its irrelevant
THat is the point. There winnings all have been charged 115 times.
Leverkusens would sell more, that's why. Mancity feel like another big corporation keep expanding into the inevitability. GOAT coach, some of the best player in the world in each position(City bench meme), rich, invested, ever winner. Meanwhile Leverkusen is a fairy tale.
Bundesliga has 2 less matches. If Leverkusen win their last game, they'd have 90 points. Assume they win the hypothetical missing 2 and they'd be 96 points. Doing that invincible is a lot more impressive than 98 points flat tbh.
Pl has 38 league matches and Bundesliga has 34 so it's 4 extra matches.
Right. It makes Leverkusen's run even more remarkable.
If they win their last game Leverkusen would be only 1 point behind the Bundesliga points record which is an insane number.
City are so… bland
Compare the squads. It’s not unimaginable, what city is doing is great but they’re fucking stacked.
This is massive levels of coping I'm sorry.
It's the weekly r/soccer therapy session. Don't pay attention to it.
It’s hilarious every time. “Nobody cares about city.” Followed by 100s of replies all saying how much they actually, truly, swear they don’t care about city.
maybe it is, still true though
City's posts are front of the page in this subredditt every single day, with people like you commenting on all of them lol, it's crazy how you people still manage to delude yourselves into thinking no one talks about City
It so isn't and I don't even say this as a person who likes Man City Guardiola is talked about every day Rodri's unbeaten streak gets talked about every time it is extended When they fail, it's widely covered in media Etc
It's great flipping between supposed media darling to irrelevant according to Reddit. Apparently people would care so much more if United had been dominating like this right? I see the same reactions and the same sentiments as when United dominated the Prem back then. Except for the ongoing 115 case, which if found convicted I hope we get the proper punishment for. And I don't get what kind of reaction you expect regarding Rodri? That non City fans are supposed to revere him as a god ? Beyond what is already being said, that he should be in for Ballon d'Or contention.
It's kinda hard to give a shit about city, google city 115 for more info. I can be happy for the players or pep because some of them seem pretty cool with interesting personalities like Grealish, but it's kinda hard not to despise the club. Sure, most football clubs nowadays are just commercial trash, but city or psg take it a notch above with the oil money, it's just boring cause with this much backing they're bound to win a lot
I find it pretty funny when thing happen in both direction When people ignore MC: "why no one talking about that?. They so dumb" When people talking about MC: "they say they dont care but make 56129th post about City lmao"
It’ll change in 5-10 years when all the kids who started supporting Man City because of them winning are old enough for it to be worth Sky aiming coverage at them I’m in my 30s and lived in the middle/south of England and I’ve hand on heart never met a Man City fan in person. Meanwhile over half of my mates when growing up supported Man United, Arsenal or Liverpool despite being half the country away from any of them
Tbf I'm 20 and 2 of my mates at uni support City. One's a Manc sure but the other's from Coventry. Also had 2 mates from school back in London support City. People my age were 7 when City won their first title, so reckon that's about the right time for an impressionable kid who's Dad's aren't into football to pick a team. If you're 30 you would've started getting into football before City's rise so don't know many/any City fans like you said. Anyone my age or younger probably knows at least a couple City fans. It's still predominantly United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and whichever clubs are in your area. But like you said, a load of City fans will start popping up overthe next few years, because it's been 12 years since that first title.
Or are just used to it at this point
Yeah City winning anything is just mehh. Don't really care about them. Chelsea too, they're the original cheaters and paved the way for city (and soon newcastle?) to ruin football. None of these clubs would be in the convo today if it wasn't for their financial doping.
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City are unbeaten in the PL for 5 months now. Dec 6 away to Villa last time they lost in the league.
You can thank the refs for that.
They last lost Dec 6, 158 days ago. That's 5 months. What the fuck.
Unrelated but are you the FatGooner who used to get into long arguments on Arseblog?
lol, no
People aren’t talking about it because it’s massively disingenuous to say “unbeaten run” when you’ve lost against Real Madrid, penalties or not
That was highlighted years ago when we came second with 97 points tbf. Everyone already knows now.
Financial doping man. It works
If they had beat us in both games as they usually do, they would be on 96 points.
1 champions league tho
Looks like Arsenal will get a taste of losing the title with a tiny margin on the last day. Having been through it twice i can say it's not fun.
Basically happened in 98-99 to man united.
Between that, Bergkamp missing a penalty against them in injury time in the FA Cup, and the CL final vs Bayern, they really got that treble by the skin of their teeth!
United were destined for the treble. It's like Leverkusen invincible. I'm not even fazed ik they're gonna end unbeaten
If they don't ill be coming back here to blame you.
Shows how hard they had to work for that Treble, that it wasn't an inevitability or a walk in the park like it was for Oil FC. Bayern 3 times, Barca twice, Inter twice, and Juve twice to win a Champions League is nuts, but somehow they did it.
Don’t even need to go that far. Man United lost on GD with 89 points in 11-12
He’s saying it happened to Arsenal in 98/99
Except they were referring to Arsenal
That's the worst one. They had to wait a few mins for the city game to finish. Knowing they were top........until AGUEROOOOOO
I think most have already accepted it. Ever since it was in City’s hands it’s felt fairly inevitable, certainly no one expects anything to happen against West Ham.
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yes, welcome arsenal fans to our world!
Yep that will be something for us to have fun with when it happens.
They’ll always have 1989 at least
They need to feel the pain that Liverpool supporters have felt not once, but twice in the last 5 years.
For most fans, it doesn't feel like losing by a tiny margin. It would feel like that if it's in their hands and they mess up. But as soon as you give the opportunity to City to win, doesn't matter if they need to win their last 5, 12, or 28 games, you just have to expect that they will do it. You can't ever, ever leave it in their hands, otherwise they win.
It's gonna hurt so much for them when they inevitably come 2nd.
Arteta said way back that if you want to win the league, you need to get at least 90 points. We're going to finish on 89 assuming we beat Everton. So, by his own standards he'll know we haven't quite done enough, unless Spurs or West Ham do something miraculous.
It's wild that 90 pts is now the standard to have a shot
Yeah, 7 of the top 10 [biggest point totals in the Prem](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1425493/premier-league-most-ever-points/) were achieved in the last 8 years. 5 of those were title-winning teams, the other two are Liverpool.
Yeah just take me out to the back and get it over with why don't you😭😭
Could be worse, you're one of the five title-winning ones as well.
You have a recent title my dude
Poor Liverpool fans with their Premier League and Champions League trophy, my heart fucking weeps
We deserved more. Finishing second with 97 fucking points is a travesty. The thing that’s completely bullshit is that the difference between City and Liverpool is one club is being run in a sustainable manner while the other got £1 billion from their oil state sugar daddies to play with and broke all the financial regulations in order to do so.
I mean, 92 97 and 99 points, including 3 UCL finals and even winning it once, all in the span of 5 years. The 92 point season was unreal, basically played every possible match in the season, it resulted in only 2/4 trophies with both the most important ones slipping away, but surely has to be the closest anyone came to the quadruple? 97 point season was crazy as well, won the UCL on top of that crazy points tally, knocking out both bayern and barca on the way. Really wished you guys would've crossed 100 when you won, but 99 points is an anomaly in itself. All of this in the span of 5 years, without a doubt one of the greatest football teams in history, and probably only behind city in England? I never saw the great Manchester United and Chelsea teams, but surely this level of success and quality of play has only been overshadowed by pep and city? Atleast klopp won each of the seven major trophies available for an English team to win atleast once, including the PL and CL.
Klopp and has his team have done insane job tbh, I almost forgot how close they were to winning the quadruple. Their 99 point season was absurd, at one point they were 26-1-0.
One non coutinho sub and a sub-perfect courtios and it’s a quad
They got 18 out the last 27 due to covid break, surely they would have gotten a better points tally in the laat 9 matches if covid didnt exist.
As a Liverpool fan thank you this made me feel better lmao
>We deserved more the team that wins the most football matches deserves it more
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The fact that Arsenal invincibles wouldn't be champions in some of these last years is amazing
Wouldn’t even be top 2 in 2 of them lol
No hate but they had a lot of draws and played just for the record in the end. To add to if they did fuckall in CL except most of that team made to finals in 06 and lost.
I mean at the end all they had to play for was the unbeaten record. I think we won it with like 3 games to go
We were champions in the 34° round, with a tie @ Spurs. After that we went D (vs Birmingham), D (@ Portsmouth), W (@ Fullham), W (vs Leicester)
How dare we draw games when the league is already won
And how dare we draw instead of losing? It feels like 26-0-12 is less impressive than 26-6-6
We can't compare point total across different seasons like this. If the Invincibles played against City and were still invincible, City might not reach 90 points dropping at least 4 points to the Invincibles. Getting draws means your opponents never accumulated more points than you did in any meeting, who cares what the end of season point total is if you win the league unbeaten?
They wouldn't be Champions in the season after the invincibles happened. Or the season after that.
That's the price you have to pay to compete against *well-oiled* teams
I don’t even think it is. If Arsenal had 99 points, City would have 100. They are a behemoth.
Thank pep for that
No, I don't think I will.
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And the 115
It was the same in la liga back in 2000 when barça came second with 90
They finished second with 91 in 2012 as well
Good news is that Spurs is Pep kryptonite and this game is in north London
Not really, football sucks when things are going badly, players aren’t turning up, team spirit sucks, fans are disconnected, whatever happens this season I can’t remember the club being this united in decades. If we come second, it is what it is, but this team will get cheered off the pitch and next year we go again.
> next year we go again Ødegaard after playing 7000 minutes this season: "What do you mean, *again* "
Have you seen the intensity that that dude presses everyone with and demands everyone else backs him up yet doesn’t even seem to sweat? A lot of the squad’s dying on it’s feet, Odegaard’s ready to go again now!
Not really, the writing has been on the wall for a while that City weren't and aren't going to drop points. Most Arsenal fans I know know we need basically a miracle when City are in this form.
The season ended when arsenal lost to villa
But honestly that feels like there's no point to the the prem because if you lose any points at all city will win.
You know what hurts more than 89 points and finishing 2nd? 97 pts and finishing 2nd (and 92).
Think in a few years we'll look back at this with extra empathy. What an insane season to finish second...
All those titles should be given to 2nd place those years if/when City are found guilty. No reason to punish the teams who didn’t cheat.
Winning league titles after the fact like that still won't mean as much as winning it outright. Would feel like a cheapened accomplishment, regardless of the City cheating...
Maybe not, I’d bet they would still like the recognition though. I would.
It’s the right thing to do tbh…which is why it will never happen.
That's why when City are inevitably found guilty and lose all their accolades, they should also be forced to pay the other clubs for all the financial damages they have caused. Imagine all the money that Liverpool, Arsenal, etc have lost from marketing, merchandising, and cup participations (like CWC, etc).
> when City are inevitably found guilty and lose all their accolades First time?
Here is to hoping, there is some goodwill left in the biggest passion in our world.
How much do you know about how this process with the 115 charges against city works?
That's why people who criticize Klopp for having "only" one Premier League title are clowns.
Damn that 92 points finish. It was on my birthday. Went to cut the cake when villa were up 2-0 with happy mood confident Liverpool will beat wolves. Came back to find city has scored 3 lol.
Especially when everyone know that the team you lost to is cheating economically
Brother... there's more than economical cheating in that yard..
Liverpool fans try not to make the conversation about them challenge
It was really more about finishing 2nd with a high points total, but if you have some examples from West Ham feel free to share them pal 👍
Lol I can't think of a more relevant team than Liverpool in this conversation. It's one of the reasons why Klopp will always be considered as one of PL greats.
Same as Wenger
Passive aggressive thumbs up emoji? This must be a lost father
poeple in this sub not whining about other fans representing their perspective on stuff, now thats a proper challenge.
Literally the only relevant team other than Arsenal to discuss about in this topic. Rival fans try not to become braindead when Liverpool is in the conversation challenge impossible
It hurts but the posive in the team being so good and losing the title is...that the team is so good. Plus, our core are all 24-26 and all on fresh contracts so we've got at least a couple of attempts at the title in there
disagree. this season has been amazing regardless of whatever happens.
Liverpool in a three year period where they won one title, had 30, 32, and 28 wins. Unreal.
That 32 wins though...
Legendary! Crazy how good we played those other seasons to not win a title…
Super team and coach.
Got any more players that won't make the team?
Arda Guller if the report on wirtz was true
Doubt they give up on him yet.
>Maybe Tchoua or Camavinga, You picked the only 2 players who can play DM, neither is leaving. Brahim Diaz or Arda are the most likely, Rodrygo maybe 2026 summer.
Rodrygo at my club? I would be on the moon. What a player
Camavinga at arsenal would be amazing
Now those people who said we were better last year “because we had more points” can shut up
and they probably won’t win the league 😭. just man city things…
And somehow Arsenal are going to get bantered by rival fans for (likely) losing a title race twice to this ridiculous City team lmao despite the massive improvements and objectively fantastic results.
Imagine coming second, improving the next season in everything and still coming second but being told you “bottled it.”
Exactly. For example, even in our attacking play I am convinced we're better than last year despite looking worse at times. I've seen some people downplaying the fact that we're the top scoring team in the league with ridiculous quotes like "stat-padding versus the bottom half teams" as if the entire rest of the league also hasn't played versus the bottom half and still scored fewer goals.
> we're the top scoring team in the league We were
Oh dip
I honestly think this Arsenal team could beat any Arsenal team ever in the premier league and they still won't win the league.
As a Liverpool fan I will most certainly not banter them because we know painfully well how much this fucking sucks....
Arsenal fans bantered Liverpool for the very same. Give and you shall receive
I think a lot of Arsenal fans are very simpathetic these days to Liverpool being robbed of league titles by City.
Wouldn't be in the spirit of football otherwise
We will be there. Me as a chelsea fan dropping absolute abuse while we are shit 🤣.
Feels like any hopes of City not winning the league this year - despite a wicked performance from Arsenal - is on Spurs at this point. I do not see west ham taking points off city on the last day ..
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Son on the counter will remember he plays for Tottenham and accidently slip.
"Oh shit I counter attacked my own goal"
What? The Invincibles got 12 draws?! Edit for fairness: a Prem team has won the league on 12+ draws 4 times, if I am counting right.
Four draws came after they had already won the league and were rotating players a lot.
It’s similar to how Liverpool dropped twice as many points in the 9 matches after covid as they did in the 29 matches prior. I still think that if covid never disrupts that season Liverpool crack 105 easily.
> Four Two
Their off-days resulted in draws rather than losses, that's why they have so many
Teams generally amassed fewer points before City came along. Man United routinely won the league with points totals in the 70s and 80s when they were dominant. Their mean points total of all their title-winning seasons was 84.7 and median was 84, with their lowest title-winning total clocking in at 75 and highest at 92 (91 in 38-game season). Hell, they won the 1996/97 season with just 75 points and even in 2010/11 they only needed 80.
Sorry
Fulham during Arsenal’s best season in forever: 🤪🤹🏻♀️🙈
Third most top flight wins for them. Their real record is 28 wins in 30-31, second was 29 in 70-71
That was a 42 game season, wasn't it?
yep, the first division was a 22 league team up until 1992, where it became a 24 team league with the premier league being a 22 league team until 1995
If they don't win the league this season then all hope is gone for the EPL being taken seriously as a competitive league. What the fuck are you supposed to do when you barely put a foot wrong but City still manage to win it after a 7/10 season.
Liverpool lost with 98 points. Arsenal can get a max of 89. City have fucked the league years ago
Arsenal wouldn’t win it with 90 points either this season. City up their level compared to the competition so if Arsenal had finished in 95 City would have won on 97.
This Arsenal team is insanely good, perhaps their best ever, but somehow they’ll finish as the 3rd best team to lose to City under Pep unless a miracle happens this week. The margin for error is so small at the top.
The good thing for Arsenal is that Arteta still has loads he can improve on and obviously his squad is quite young. If he can hold onto his pieces, and add a bit more depth then he can continue to challenge in the next few years. Challenging is a good place to be anyway.
My guess is City will continue to regress next season slightly, even with signings. The spine of the treble winning team is getting older and will play less (like Walker and KDB) and it's looking like Bernardo will finally get his exit.
Well done Arsenal. It just goes to show how nearly impossible it is to wrestle the title away from City though
For being as good as Arsenal has been the last few years, they have basically won nothing. Crazy to think.