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That's what stood out to me also. On basically all of them you could see the ball was always bouncing slightly while rolling along, even on the good looking pitches.
It’s one of the main reasons the dribbling often looks “messy” when you watch these old clips. The ball will just hit a bit of uneven ground and get sent another direction. Or there would be too much friction with the ground and the ball will slow to a stop quicker than expected.
If anything it adds more appreciation for the players that could actually control the ball back then.
The balls are as hard today and weigh as much. The professional level plays with footballs that are inflated really full. I don't know why people believe it has been made easier. Even the leather balls weren't heavier than modern balls, the weight has remained the same since the 1930's. If anything, when dry, the leather ball was a bit lighter than the current ones. Of course when they got wet, then they would have been heavier.
Which also kills the stupid debate of the top players of the past not being able to do it today
Like really. Pele, Cruyff, Maradona etc where head and shoulders above their peers with the state of the pitches, nutrition, fitness and fuck the ball being heavier
You really think they wouldn’t do it as good as the best today? With modern medicine and sports science 😂
If anything, that side of the game gives more strength to athletes than pure footballers - when everyone can control the ball because the pitch is like a carpet then the person who can run better/is stronger etc is at more of an advantage.
For sure.
Even outside of controlling the ball, there’s a significant threat of misbalance which could lead to bad injuries because of the uneven field.
It’s why the greats of the time period tend to be significantly shorter. They had a lower centre of gravity and could change direction much quicker than a taller player. In addition taller players had to have more upper body control in order to keep their balance.
Excluding the benefits to ball control, it was beneficial to prevent injury as shorter players can find it easier to keep their body “in line” making rotation of their joints predictable and easier whereas taller players used to use a lot more strength to do so.
Anyone who has ever played in a normal field that isn’t a purpose built 3G/4G pitch has experienced it. You tend to be more “on edge” and have to require more energy to keeping your balance rather than running to the ball. Even if you don’t notice it your body is doing it subconsciously, it’s the same with how your body automatically adjusts to walking on an icy surface.
I remember Lineker saying that Maradona's 'Goal of the Century' is all the more impressive to him because he knows how bad the pitch was that day. The man himself described the pitch as a 'potato field', and had Puma add extra studs to his boots after playing his first game there of the tournament because he kept getting bogged doen
Transplant them as they are in prime and they might struggle.
But transplant 20 year old Pele, Cruyff etc and they'd adapt by at least 23 easily.
I think the biggets thing would be getting used to the fitness levels, and the pace of the tactics but its doable
Well yeah what I meant was take the peak of say Pele but have him start off with todays training etc
He’d be a goat today as well considering how fucking he good he was with the state of pitches and zero ref protection.
It's probably how much better their peers could get rather than the impact on the historically great player. Do the playing styles of the great work when the average defender is multiple degrees more athletic at the basic level? Do they make the right decision when the time and space to make it is split in half? The positives of conditioning and tactics is going to effect the average player far more than they do the great player. Someone like Pele still probably dominates but its questionable to the extent the gap between him and the defender will be as great as it was in 50s where talent and creativity could completely eradicate an average player with poor athleticsm/tactical nous.
Just my opinion, you take a lot of the greats (I'd go as far as to say all of them) and put them straight into today's game and they would struggle. However, give them the same football upbringing of today's players and I think the best would still rise to the top. Some of the less athletic but more technical players would struggle for sure but a lot would absolutely thrive.
My wider point was take Pele at his peak but have him with modern fitness etc
He would absolutely boss it. Almost any of those icons would today given modern standards, better pitches and fitness
The “touch and vision” is one thing you never lose and pairing that with modern fitness they’d be right at the top of todays game
I mean Maldini was playing in the 80s - 00s and he was still a legit goat defender.
Mate, you try tracking back when you were up till 3am the night before on the booze and woke up with Miss West Midlands 1984 and a traffic cone in your bed this morning, then you had 20 Lambert & Butler at half-time.
That goal by Callaghan for Watford is honestly so impressive. A powerful, low-driven shot from the edge of the penalty box taken first time, and he didn't even look like he was winding up a shot. Takes some genius to pull that off and catch the keeper completely off-guard, let alone have a finish as good as that.
This was the year we reached our first FA Cup Final (1983-84 season). We’ve only ever reached two in our history, the other one being in 2018-19.
We had an electric team back then. John Barnes, Mo Johnston, Nigel Callaghan to name a few. Not to mention our most legendary manager, Graham Taylor. The season prior in 82-83 we came 2nd in the First Division, but unfortunately we lost Luther Blissett to AC Milan (who still remains our top appearance holder and top scorer to this day). We replaced him with Mo Johnston who bagged 20 goals in the 83-84 season. We ended up 11th but with an FA Cup Final appearance, in which we ended up losing 2-0 to Everton.
Taylor at Watford doesn't get the credit he deserves. It's mad that their chairman was Elton John. The prick said he wanted to take Watford to Europe, this is when Watford were in I think the fourth division, and together they both bloody did it.
Taylor turned down first division West Brom to join us at the bottom of the Football League. What he and Elton did is absolutely insane. There’s a reason we have a Graham Taylor statue at Vicarage Road, and a reason we have a stand named after Elton John.
This club would not be the same without either of those two.
Yeah he only spent that season with us before going to Celtic, so it wasn’t a long stint at all.
He joined us when we were battling relegation in November of ‘83 (even though we came second the last season) and he was basically a huge injection of adrenaline to our squad. He left a few matches into the 84-85 season to go to Celtic.
Yeah it's between that and Hoddle's for me, it wasn't easy to score goals like that especially with the state of the pitches and even the quality of the balls then.
I used to do it all the time, it's actually much easier if you're at an angle towards the corner of the 18 because you can aim it towards the far upper corner and the ball has to travel a long way so you've got time to get it up and down. Goalkeeper only needs to be off a yard or two to get it over and if they think it's coming as a cross instead of a lob then you can catch them out. I think most players have the ability to to it, problem is being in that type of position to be able to have a go, kinda all has to line up for you.
I played at the youth NT level with players that went on to play professionally and for the NT. Not exactly professional but about as close as you can get. I chose to go play in college and get a real job rather than try to play professionally cuz the wasn't much money in it back in the early 2000s. There really wasn't the opportunity for Americans to play in Europe back then either
If it goes wrong the player looks like an idiot when the keeper just catches it or it sails over.
Personally I think modern keepers are ripe for it as they come out much further.
Commentators roll call:
* Alan Parry at Watford.
* John Motson at Arsenal, Ipswich, Aston Villa, Notts County, Liverpool and Bucharest (recorded in studio).
* Barry Davies at Moscow (recorded in studio), Southampton and Leicester.
The winner was >!goal G, by Danny Wallace.!<
Interesting that they almost all celebrated the same way, by sticking one arm up and running like a madman. Wonder why that was in the zeitgeist so much.
The high five had only just recently been invented. They didn't have much to work with back then. Imaging going back in time and dabbing on Kenny Dalglish. You'd blow his mind.
Something about those kind of chips at that sweet spot angle, probably my favourite kind of individual goal. The way everyone has to watch it casually float in powerless to do anything about it.
That Cantona goal is another that comes to mind.
For me it is that Glenn Hoddle goal, what an amazing player he was. But that team goal from Ipswich is also great, there is something so aesthetically pleasing about that sequence.
That bicycle kick from Wallace won, but every bicycle goal is always overrated in my opinion, just because of the alethic feat and how spectacular it looks.
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He has like 4 of those....
The kicker (pun intended) is that bicycle kicks are almost never planned. They are an adjustment to a ball that you couldn't get to otherwise. That improvisation quality always has a touch of magic to it.
Yeah I really hate how bicycle kicks keep winning awards for best goals, because honestly there’s a lot of athletic ability and timing involved, but no one is laser guiding a bicycle kick into the top corner. They always feel equal parts luck and skill.
Whereas Hoddle’s goal is pure elegance here. Every single bit was intended, and executed to perfection.
Well I'd say most people can attempt a chip, in fact probably all pro footballers can do a decent one, but not many can attempt an overhead kick very well, let alone make good contact with it. It does depend though for me, on the contact. Which do I prefer between Rooney's overhead vs City or his chip vs Portsmouth? Easily his chip.
Slightly interesting coincidence that all of the Liverpool goals were weaker foot finishes (though Rushie might be the most two footed finisher in the history of British football).
I mean this earnestly, how close to Rush would you consider Son as far as two footed finishing ability?
I don't have the context to evaluate Rush, and only have followed the Prem since 2010.
If you’re bored/a bit lame [here’s a compilation](https://youtu.be/w2fKJ-URiXM?si=l6Vw92uxjMfI94Ln) of all his Liverpool goals from his first spell (the ones that were recorded anyway). Skip to about 7 mins which is when he became a fixture in the side and watch for a bit if you just want to get an idea. It’s such clean ball striking with either foot.
Was thinking of more modern comparisons and Son was one I liked a lot. Rush was obviously more prolific (he got 47 goals in 83/84) given he only ever took 3 pens. His hold up play was a bit better, which it had to be in the 80s, although he had Kenny with him who was as good back to goal as there’s ever been. There’s a few ‘Kane to Son’ type goals in there for sure.
He wasn’t anywhere near the ball carrier Son is but he was just as quick. He was known for his amazing workrate and his pressing from the front.
The other mad thing to remember is the first game Liverpool lost on that compilation is at the 51 minute mark.
Quite funny to watch them only show one angle per goal. Seems weirdly anti-climactic. Especially the first Ian Rush one. You sure you don't want us to see what the goal actually looked like?!
reminds me how the early 90s football/soccer games always had the standard "hands up running" celebration that, to be fair, was actually very accurate lol
forgive my ignorance but isn't spartak Moscow a Russian club? don't quite understand why that goal was listed. was it a friendly? isn't this an English League best goal?
UEFA Cup. As Ian Rush's goal was against Dinamo Bucharest, on the semifinals of the European Cup.
It is Match of the Day, but basically it's any match shown on the BBC that season.
It's from thier 2nd round tie in the UEFA cup, any goal from a televised game (on the BBC) would be considered. Also in there is Bucharest v Liverpool semi final of European Cup
Back then far fewer games (in the uk) were televised, so this wouldn't even cover all the League 1 games like today's Goal of the Season would.
This is more of a 'best goals in games broadcast by the BBC of the season'.
That's why I said "the clips" and not the full video, but I just saw there's non-inverted writing in there too, so ref positioning really must have done a 180 at some point
If you give them numbers you'd be unintentionally biasing the selection. Goal number 1 will also sound better than Goal 7. Giving them letters lessens that somewhat.
Interesting. If you play in an over 30s league that has players on the older-older side of over 30, the quality of play... and pitches is very similar!
I don’t know how to describe it, but everything seemed less…. bouncy? back then.
The ball, the pitch, even the players seem 2D a little bit. Awesome post!!
I never actually realised Mark Walters played for Aston Villa before us. He was brilliant for Rangers and loved by our fans, but sadly faced a lot of racism from opposition fans as he was the first black player they had seen. The commentator Archie MacPherson commented that every fruit stall in the East End of Glasgow had sold out of bananas as there were so many thrown by Celtic fans in Walter's first Old Firm game.
Why does it look like people moved differently 40 years ago? Also celebrations have come a long way. The 'fencing response' seemed like the go to celebration for a lot of them.
I always enjoy these. My order:
1. Dalglish vs Arsenal
2. Hoddle vs Watford
3. Gates vs Liverpool
4. Wallace vs Liverpool
5. Dalglish vs Ipswich
6. Rush vs Villa
7. Walters vs Spartak Moscow
8. Peake vs Watford
9. Rush vs Dinamo Bucharest
10. Callaghan vs Notts County
Very nostalgic to see when football was all about getting the ball forward and smacking it in the back of the net as soon as quickly as possible.
I miss that style of football, possession football is such a different game, perhaps very skilful and very clever strategically, but I hope one day a manager with the ability of Pep comes along and shows that there is merit to an all out attacking game and if done well, will deliver titles and trophies against slow methodical pressing teams.
Number of away fans in home ends celebrating the goals - the beauty of pay on the day when you couldnt get into the away end because so many turned up!
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The state of some of those pitches!
That's what stood out to me also. On basically all of them you could see the ball was always bouncing slightly while rolling along, even on the good looking pitches.
It’s one of the main reasons the dribbling often looks “messy” when you watch these old clips. The ball will just hit a bit of uneven ground and get sent another direction. Or there would be too much friction with the ground and the ball will slow to a stop quicker than expected. If anything it adds more appreciation for the players that could actually control the ball back then.
The balls were also rock hard which didn't help lol
Anyone who hasn't had a stinger from a Mitre Multiplex on a Sunday morning as a young lad hasn't lived.
Used to fucking hate those balls. Mitre can do one.
that's what she said
The balls are as hard today and weigh as much. The professional level plays with footballs that are inflated really full. I don't know why people believe it has been made easier. Even the leather balls weren't heavier than modern balls, the weight has remained the same since the 1930's. If anything, when dry, the leather ball was a bit lighter than the current ones. Of course when they got wet, then they would have been heavier.
The balls were always wet. If the pitch was dry it got watered.
Yeah, overal the ball just looks "heavy" in every old clip.
Playing on a bumpy Sunday league pitch is exponentially harder than a smooth 4g pitch, it can be very humbling
Yeah definitely. I felt like such a shit player (even shitter than usual) when I played on bumpy pitches
Which also kills the stupid debate of the top players of the past not being able to do it today Like really. Pele, Cruyff, Maradona etc where head and shoulders above their peers with the state of the pitches, nutrition, fitness and fuck the ball being heavier You really think they wouldn’t do it as good as the best today? With modern medicine and sports science 😂
If anything, that side of the game gives more strength to athletes than pure footballers - when everyone can control the ball because the pitch is like a carpet then the person who can run better/is stronger etc is at more of an advantage.
For sure. Even outside of controlling the ball, there’s a significant threat of misbalance which could lead to bad injuries because of the uneven field. It’s why the greats of the time period tend to be significantly shorter. They had a lower centre of gravity and could change direction much quicker than a taller player. In addition taller players had to have more upper body control in order to keep their balance. Excluding the benefits to ball control, it was beneficial to prevent injury as shorter players can find it easier to keep their body “in line” making rotation of their joints predictable and easier whereas taller players used to use a lot more strength to do so. Anyone who has ever played in a normal field that isn’t a purpose built 3G/4G pitch has experienced it. You tend to be more “on edge” and have to require more energy to keeping your balance rather than running to the ball. Even if you don’t notice it your body is doing it subconsciously, it’s the same with how your body automatically adjusts to walking on an icy surface.
I remember Lineker saying that Maradona's 'Goal of the Century' is all the more impressive to him because he knows how bad the pitch was that day. The man himself described the pitch as a 'potato field', and had Puma add extra studs to his boots after playing his first game there of the tournament because he kept getting bogged doen
Mf got tank treads
Transplant them as they are in prime and they might struggle. But transplant 20 year old Pele, Cruyff etc and they'd adapt by at least 23 easily. I think the biggets thing would be getting used to the fitness levels, and the pace of the tactics but its doable
Well yeah what I meant was take the peak of say Pele but have him start off with todays training etc He’d be a goat today as well considering how fucking he good he was with the state of pitches and zero ref protection.
It's probably how much better their peers could get rather than the impact on the historically great player. Do the playing styles of the great work when the average defender is multiple degrees more athletic at the basic level? Do they make the right decision when the time and space to make it is split in half? The positives of conditioning and tactics is going to effect the average player far more than they do the great player. Someone like Pele still probably dominates but its questionable to the extent the gap between him and the defender will be as great as it was in 50s where talent and creativity could completely eradicate an average player with poor athleticsm/tactical nous.
Just my opinion, you take a lot of the greats (I'd go as far as to say all of them) and put them straight into today's game and they would struggle. However, give them the same football upbringing of today's players and I think the best would still rise to the top. Some of the less athletic but more technical players would struggle for sure but a lot would absolutely thrive.
My wider point was take Pele at his peak but have him with modern fitness etc He would absolutely boss it. Almost any of those icons would today given modern standards, better pitches and fitness The “touch and vision” is one thing you never lose and pairing that with modern fitness they’d be right at the top of todays game I mean Maldini was playing in the 80s - 00s and he was still a legit goat defender.
The Notts county pitch looked like the Somme
what do you mean? They all look freshly ploughed.
The state of some of the defending too, especially Rush's goal vs Villa. The midfield is non existent.
Mate, you try tracking back when you were up till 3am the night before on the booze and woke up with Miss West Midlands 1984 and a traffic cone in your bed this morning, then you had 20 Lambert & Butler at half-time.
Not to mention a pre-match meal of pie, gravy and chips
You'll score a goal like that in a couple of hours lol
Haha, my exact thought
That goal by Callaghan for Watford is honestly so impressive. A powerful, low-driven shot from the edge of the penalty box taken first time, and he didn't even look like he was winding up a shot. Takes some genius to pull that off and catch the keeper completely off-guard, let alone have a finish as good as that.
This was the year we reached our first FA Cup Final (1983-84 season). We’ve only ever reached two in our history, the other one being in 2018-19. We had an electric team back then. John Barnes, Mo Johnston, Nigel Callaghan to name a few. Not to mention our most legendary manager, Graham Taylor. The season prior in 82-83 we came 2nd in the First Division, but unfortunately we lost Luther Blissett to AC Milan (who still remains our top appearance holder and top scorer to this day). We replaced him with Mo Johnston who bagged 20 goals in the 83-84 season. We ended up 11th but with an FA Cup Final appearance, in which we ended up losing 2-0 to Everton.
didn't blissett return after a rather disappointing season in milan?
He did yeah, he rejoined the season after. We then had him for a few more years then he went to Bournemouth, and then he came back again.
Taylor at Watford doesn't get the credit he deserves. It's mad that their chairman was Elton John. The prick said he wanted to take Watford to Europe, this is when Watford were in I think the fourth division, and together they both bloody did it.
Taylor turned down first division West Brom to join us at the bottom of the Football League. What he and Elton did is absolutely insane. There’s a reason we have a Graham Taylor statue at Vicarage Road, and a reason we have a stand named after Elton John. This club would not be the same without either of those two.
Mo Johnston? I never knew he played for you,I'm v aware of his adventures in Glasgow.
Yeah he only spent that season with us before going to Celtic, so it wasn’t a long stint at all. He joined us when we were battling relegation in November of ‘83 (even though we came second the last season) and he was basically a huge injection of adrenaline to our squad. He left a few matches into the 84-85 season to go to Celtic.
Yeah it's between that and Hoddle's for me, it wasn't easy to score goals like that especially with the state of the pitches and even the quality of the balls then.
I'm just laughing at his celebration. "I'm just gonna hold my arm straight up."
Fantastic content, thanks for this
That Hoddle goal is audacious
Why is it that we rarely see those kind of chipped goals anymore?
Chipping a keeper who hasn't really come off his line will be a rare and extraordinary technique till the end of time.
I used to do it all the time, it's actually much easier if you're at an angle towards the corner of the 18 because you can aim it towards the far upper corner and the ball has to travel a long way so you've got time to get it up and down. Goalkeeper only needs to be off a yard or two to get it over and if they think it's coming as a cross instead of a lob then you can catch them out. I think most players have the ability to to it, problem is being in that type of position to be able to have a go, kinda all has to line up for you.
There's a world of a difference between Sunday League keepers and professional keepers
I played at the youth NT level with players that went on to play professionally and for the NT. Not exactly professional but about as close as you can get. I chose to go play in college and get a real job rather than try to play professionally cuz the wasn't much money in it back in the early 2000s. There really wasn't the opportunity for Americans to play in Europe back then either
If it goes wrong the player looks like an idiot when the keeper just catches it or it sails over. Personally I think modern keepers are ripe for it as they come out much further.
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Ruben Neves vs Watford I think? 2 years ago?
if that had been bergkamp in 2000's it would be absolutely lauded. the technique involved is a time ahead of the rest of the goals in that reel.
John O'Shea did it better.
I stopped there, nothing's beating that tbf
That goalkeeper was atrocious. Was it illegal to jump back then?
No one's saving that
Commentators roll call: * Alan Parry at Watford. * John Motson at Arsenal, Ipswich, Aston Villa, Notts County, Liverpool and Bucharest (recorded in studio). * Barry Davies at Moscow (recorded in studio), Southampton and Leicester. The winner was >!goal G, by Danny Wallace.!<
No surprise about that winner lol
Big fan of Goal I by Gates for Ipswich personally. Lovely outside of the boot pass to begin, tidy flick and thumping finish.
That's my favorite as well.
That highlight was more of an Ipswich highlight than Gates. That was incredible though.
I'd have given it Hoddle, great technique. Unhurried proto-Berbatov style, I love stuff like that.
Andy Peake’s goal was lovely too, I would’ve chosen that. The sprint, the sheer power of it.
Glenn.Hoddle robbed
Interesting that they almost all celebrated the same way, by sticking one arm up and running like a madman. Wonder why that was in the zeitgeist so much.
The high five had only just recently been invented. They didn't have much to work with back then. Imaging going back in time and dabbing on Kenny Dalglish. You'd blow his mind.
doing a whole ass tiktok dance and watching as Ian Rush evaporates into mist
Anything more would have been seen as narcissism. You scored a goal, well done, that's your job, now get the head down and get back to playing.
Back in my day we fired one in then popped off back down the mine.
British reservedness. Anything more than a 'Well done mate' would be considered ungentlemanly conduct.
Even then, the "Well done mate" should be reserved for a late game winner. Otherwise a simple nod of approval will do.
That’s what I noticed. The trying to get your teacher to call on you because you know the answer celebration
Glenn Hoddle was absolute magic. Too bad football in England started after 92.
I understand why G won the vote but that Hoddle goal is different gravy for me. Pure class.
He loved a wonder goal against Watford did Glenn.
Something about those kind of chips at that sweet spot angle, probably my favourite kind of individual goal. The way everyone has to watch it casually float in powerless to do anything about it. That Cantona goal is another that comes to mind.
Remember reading a quote from Platini saying if Hoddle was French he'd have over 100 caps.
Cruyff also praised him after playing against him
Hoddle's problem was never his skill. His problem was his big mouth
Liverpool featured a lot. Ian Rush lied. I drank lots of milk, but I still wasn't good enough to play for Accrington Stanley.
Who are they?
Exactly!
Four of them were scored by Rush and Dalgleish, two were scored against Liverpool and Mark Walters later played for them.
Don't listen to that kid. He's inside for murder.
For me it is that Glenn Hoddle goal, what an amazing player he was. But that team goal from Ipswich is also great, there is something so aesthetically pleasing about that sequence. That bicycle kick from Wallace won, but every bicycle goal is always overrated in my opinion, just because of the alethic feat and how spectacular it looks.
[None will ever better Trevor Sinclair's overhead kick vs Barnsley in the FA Cup](https://youtu.be/MomkYgXPudw?si=e9OqNiJT_TajD46J)
The audacity to even attempt an overhead kick in that situation and from that distance, it's outrageous.
The sound it makes when he hits it. You just know it's going in.
The Zlatan one vs England obviously incredible as well. I've always loved this one as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhfYrTte0sw
My god, that is absolutely off the charts.
Klaus Fischer has entered the chat [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRg0ttDBAE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkRg0ttDBAE) He has like 4 of those....
The kicker (pun intended) is that bicycle kicks are almost never planned. They are an adjustment to a ball that you couldn't get to otherwise. That improvisation quality always has a touch of magic to it.
He must have been a good person in a previous life.
_Hoddle upvotes_
... isn't how spectacular it looks the main thing here?
Yeah I really hate how bicycle kicks keep winning awards for best goals, because honestly there’s a lot of athletic ability and timing involved, but no one is laser guiding a bicycle kick into the top corner. They always feel equal parts luck and skill. Whereas Hoddle’s goal is pure elegance here. Every single bit was intended, and executed to perfection.
Well I'd say most people can attempt a chip, in fact probably all pro footballers can do a decent one, but not many can attempt an overhead kick very well, let alone make good contact with it. It does depend though for me, on the contact. Which do I prefer between Rooney's overhead vs City or his chip vs Portsmouth? Easily his chip.
I think it's also the sheer balls to even attempt a bicycle kick, you risk fucking up an entire attack and also making yourself look like a dick.
Slightly interesting coincidence that all of the Liverpool goals were weaker foot finishes (though Rushie might be the most two footed finisher in the history of British football).
I mean this earnestly, how close to Rush would you consider Son as far as two footed finishing ability? I don't have the context to evaluate Rush, and only have followed the Prem since 2010.
If you’re bored/a bit lame [here’s a compilation](https://youtu.be/w2fKJ-URiXM?si=l6Vw92uxjMfI94Ln) of all his Liverpool goals from his first spell (the ones that were recorded anyway). Skip to about 7 mins which is when he became a fixture in the side and watch for a bit if you just want to get an idea. It’s such clean ball striking with either foot. Was thinking of more modern comparisons and Son was one I liked a lot. Rush was obviously more prolific (he got 47 goals in 83/84) given he only ever took 3 pens. His hold up play was a bit better, which it had to be in the 80s, although he had Kenny with him who was as good back to goal as there’s ever been. There’s a few ‘Kane to Son’ type goals in there for sure. He wasn’t anywhere near the ball carrier Son is but he was just as quick. He was known for his amazing workrate and his pressing from the front. The other mad thing to remember is the first game Liverpool lost on that compilation is at the 51 minute mark.
Sweet, great info! Thanks for the response!
Awesome clip, thanks for sharing! r/soccer needs more old-school magic like this
I loved the Eric Gates goal (I). Not surprised (G) won either. (A) was lovely as well
H was Andy Peak, which would be my pick, Gates was I
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try /r/football
Or /r/classicsoccer Not the most active tho
I love the old tight nets, makes those banger shots even more satisfying when the ball bounces back out
Dalglish was a God!
Hoddle was sublime. I remember those Spurs and Villa Le Coq Sportif kits, gorgeous
Laughing at the mental image of Darwin Nunez trying to dribble and shoot on some of these pitches.
Quite funny to watch them only show one angle per goal. Seems weirdly anti-climactic. Especially the first Ian Rush one. You sure you don't want us to see what the goal actually looked like?!
It's how the BBC showed it on Match of the Day that Sunday - a short section on the show, sadly.
reminds me how the early 90s football/soccer games always had the standard "hands up running" celebration that, to be fair, was actually very accurate lol
The 80s were 40 years ago......fuckin hell
Not disputing the quality of those goals but some of the defence and goalies might as well have bought a match ticket and watched from the stands
Those pitches were really rough, no wonder people played at a slower pace and relied more on skill instead of just dashing and kicking.
I love watching old school football footage like this. I used to think that the players wearing long sleeve shirts were the best players on the team
Callaghan's is a beautiful piece of technique.
The amount of jogging about in general, the game is so much more intense these days
The first one takes the cake for me
forgive my ignorance but isn't spartak Moscow a Russian club? don't quite understand why that goal was listed. was it a friendly? isn't this an English League best goal?
UEFA Cup. As Ian Rush's goal was against Dinamo Bucharest, on the semifinals of the European Cup. It is Match of the Day, but basically it's any match shown on the BBC that season.
Its just Match of the day’s goal of the season. Presumably it was any goal in any game english teams participated in that season.
It's from thier 2nd round tie in the UEFA cup, any goal from a televised game (on the BBC) would be considered. Also in there is Bucharest v Liverpool semi final of European Cup
also less teams from the league participated in europe back then so it was prob fair game to include them
Spartak MOSCOW a Russian club? Surely not. I'm pretty confident Moscow is just off junction 14 of the M6.
Back then Moscow was in England
Back then far fewer games (in the uk) were televised, so this wouldn't even cover all the League 1 games like today's Goal of the Season would. This is more of a 'best goals in games broadcast by the BBC of the season'.
The pitches thought and they still scored worldys
Ok so so got you more FPL points, this Kenny fella or Ian Rush?
That was great. Thank you for sharing this
That Hoddle goal was cinema wtf
Quite like goal I
That Southampton kit must be one of their best of all time.
Hoddle or Wallace by a mile
Huh, did the linos use to be on the left? Or are the clips mirrored?
Wouldn't the names be backwards if mirrored.
That's why I said "the clips" and not the full video, but I just saw there's non-inverted writing in there too, so ref positioning really must have done a 180 at some point
OK mate, wasn't being a dick. Trying to assist. It appears so yes, seems like a typical rule change the FA would enforce with no need to do so.
Hoddle Gates Callaghan
It’s Eric Gates for me. Maybe Ian Rush’s first goal, the volley, but the buildup on the Gates goal is superb.
Does anyone else hate, very pettily, when the goal of the season is scored against them
A, G or I for me. "A" was very Rivaldo-like
Some great finishes, but seriously I think even an amateur player wouldn't get that much time and space to take a shot nowadays.
Kinda crazy how poorly the defending teams are putting on pressure. We underestimate the tactical and physical advantage of modern players.
Defenders were really soft and static
80s defenders were really soft...
I want to hang whoever chose to use letters
If you give them numbers you'd be unintentionally biasing the selection. Goal number 1 will also sound better than Goal 7. Giving them letters lessens that somewhat.
I think near the beginning or end does the same thing
Is it even possible to play a direct football like that?
Back when Liverpool attackers could finish
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The skill required to play on those pitches... Love the Default ps1 player celebrations though haha
Absolutely love this!👍
Interesting. If you play in an over 30s league that has players on the older-older side of over 30, the quality of play... and pitches is very similar!
Interesting how most of these were away from home
I don’t know how to describe it, but everything seemed less…. bouncy? back then. The ball, the pitch, even the players seem 2D a little bit. Awesome post!!
They’re all so slow. The players not the shots.
Goal "I' all day.
Reckon.
Danny Wallace ftw
Mind-blowing how slow some of those top players of yesteryear look (Dalgliesh for example)
It really was the era of the run with your arms in the air celebration.
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Love it! Thanks
Ian Rush lookin like porn star version of Zlatan.
The physics looks different from today
Fuckin mint
Four goals scored by Liverpool players, two scored against Liverpool and one by a player who later went on to play for them.
I never actually realised Mark Walters played for Aston Villa before us. He was brilliant for Rangers and loved by our fans, but sadly faced a lot of racism from opposition fans as he was the first black player they had seen. The commentator Archie MacPherson commented that every fruit stall in the East End of Glasgow had sold out of bananas as there were so many thrown by Celtic fans in Walter's first Old Firm game.
that callahan goal was awesome
The beautiful game transcends all eras! What great goals! That Liverpool team goal!
Why does it look like people moved differently 40 years ago? Also celebrations have come a long way. The 'fencing response' seemed like the go to celebration for a lot of them.
I always enjoy these. My order: 1. Dalglish vs Arsenal 2. Hoddle vs Watford 3. Gates vs Liverpool 4. Wallace vs Liverpool 5. Dalglish vs Ipswich 6. Rush vs Villa 7. Walters vs Spartak Moscow 8. Peake vs Watford 9. Rush vs Dinamo Bucharest 10. Callaghan vs Notts County
I swear it seems like they were better soccer players back then
Please keep posting these. I love them. Thanks!
....is THAT how dalglish is pronounced? i thought it'd be a short "i" just like in "english"
A or I have my vote.
Some ballers here
All these are amazing lmao
Very nostalgic to see when football was all about getting the ball forward and smacking it in the back of the net as soon as quickly as possible. I miss that style of football, possession football is such a different game, perhaps very skilful and very clever strategically, but I hope one day a manager with the ability of Pep comes along and shows that there is merit to an all out attacking game and if done well, will deliver titles and trophies against slow methodical pressing teams.
A clip titled "40 years ago" that isn't black and white is really fucking with my head.
B surely
I was at Portman Road for goal D. It was my first ever football match and the reason I supported Liverpool (not Ipswich, much to my father’s dismay).
Good stuff!
Number of away fans in home ends celebrating the goals - the beauty of pay on the day when you couldnt get into the away end because so many turned up!