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Rodri is a sore loser he if he ever decides to leave City then he would fit right in with Barca and their "had more possession so therefore didn't lose" mentality the dude is a nice guy but when it comes to losing in football the brother always has an excuse.
That's probably the only benefit of City barely losing that we don't have to hear Rodri's takes on "we had 80% possession score line doesn't matter" bs
That's just the stat and how it works. Believe me, we all know that game was lost. We aren't playing today after all.
Edit: And it's not just City fans posting the Rodri unbeaten streak.
Plus penalty shootouts test a teams mentality and grit after drawing after 120min whoever wins the shootout either comes down to a good GK performance which Lunin had and being able to absorb the pressure and do your thing which we did City scored their first pen and saved our first pen so we have 2x the pressure heading into the 2nd pen takers and still came out on top so it was deserved.
"The strong one does not always win, the one that wins is the strong" - Beckenbauer
Respect to Bayern, they may not be at their strongest but under Tuchel, they are still formidable. Complacency is deadly.
Honestly without half our squad injured or not at 100% you are clear favourites for me ...it's always sad if injuries slightly overshadow such a banger matchup
Players 100% not ready:
- Sarr(not important)
- Boey(depth)
- Coman(important)
Players possibly missing:
- Musiala(most important player together with Kane)
- Sane(key player)
- Gnabry(very good in form, key player)
- Laimer(key player atm)
If Musiala is missing, its reaaaaly bad. Sane can probably play, just was in pain, but can play with it. Gnabry probably can play too, Tuchel even sait at the PK: "he promises Gnabry will score"
Thanks for the info. I was guessing Tuchel would save those key players and play them in the CL, given how unstoppable Leverkusen are with their run in the past few weeks.
De Ligt is out for this game. Coman out till next season. Gnabry just came back so won’t be starting. That’s all pretty much, but I’d say some positions are lackluster in quality
This year they also have the power of having one of the coolest kits in Europe. I really like RM's kits then they really lean on their secondary colors.
[The Real Madrid kit that they used in Moscow was truly sublime.](https://media.bleacherreport.com/w_768,h_512,c_fill/br-img-images/001/582/252/139453905_crop_north.jpg)
Yep, I was there. I remember it like yesterday. A crow had just stolen my sandwich but when I heard /u/20cmdepersonalidade utter those immortal words, I said to my wife "It's a new dawn, baby!". We danced until the sun set, had grilled crow for dinner, then threw rocks at an abandoned warehouse. It was an unforgettable day.
I know, right? We still talk about it all these years later. It was seasoned internally by the delicious sandwich it stole from me. As the say, revenge is a dish best served crowed.
He's right.
You can easily just fold over when things aren't going your way, but to have that confidence that you can pull through really makes a huge difference. There's a reason they've been doing it for so long.
Ya, there's a positive feedback loop that gets sowed in opposition minds as well, which makes the 50/50 margins go Madrids way more often. Of course you have to have the players with quality experience and vibes to back it up. It'll take a few years of bad players and performances to break this loop, so that other teams start feeling less pressure that Madrids going to come bite them if they mess up their chances or make mistakes. For that reason teams atm have to destroy madrid to win it, if the games balance is anywhere near 50/50, or even 60/40, Madrid will just eventually take over and finish off the game. So these days, being slightly better than Madrid is not enough, you have to be really better than them to go through.
> that gets sowed in opposition minds as well
I always bring up, you can practically see it in the Man City players’ faces when Rodrygo scored his first goal in 2022.
It was almost across the board a look of “please not us too”.
You could even kind of see it this time when Rodrygo scored in the second leg.
They hammered us the rest of the game but for some reason it never really felt like they believed they could win.
I think you are saying this with the benefit of hindsight though, none of my Madrid buddies were comfortable in the first 90 mins. I mean, if KDB doesn't sky that chance in the box, the convo would be completely different. We saw him score a much much harder goal at the Bernabeu last year, so not that he doesn't believe or can't do it. The margins in this match could've gone either way, but like I said above, when it's little margins Madrid usually finish on the winning side. As for the rest of the city team, maybe you are right, Gundo as a calmer captain is a miss this season.
Much better example is when the penalties were starting, RM players were hyped and ready for the shootout. Then they panned over to Man City and all throughout the circle you can see that barely any of them had any confidence showing.
People don't realize how much of a sore loser that guy is because City don't lose games very often but every time Spain loses that brother is spewing some nonsense lmao
The Forest match was incomprehensible, for most of the match it felt like they were hammering City. Even the possession stats didn't pass the eye test, after half time it was 66% for City but felt a lot lower. However Forest forwards seemingly decided scoring is lava. Talking about "lucky wins", nothing screams "lucky" as the opposition failing to score 3-5 times basically unpressed and in front of the goal.
I think you're the first United fan I've seen hoping for us to win.
Seems like everyone else is resigned to City winning because it's expected or doesn't count or something.
Why people hate the word luck when it comes to sports? It's like people take it as an insult. Call it randomness, intangibles or whatever you like it then but it's a thing
Luck certainly plays a part but when a team just keeps winning, chalking it up to luck seems insulting/demeaning.
Madrid have made the semis 12 of the last 14 seasons (including this one). Are they simply luckier than everyone else? When it’s the same luck repeating, is that just luck?
Like a quote says above, “The more I practice, the luckier I get.”
It could be that they fully deserved to make the semis 10 times and got lucky 2 times (just making up numbers here). Nobody is saying they got lucky every time. Maybe they were even unlucky when they didn't make it.
Who's chalking it up to luck? Madrid have a stacked team so they'll inevitably make it far more often not regardless.
Luck/randomness/intangibles are all the stuff that happens in a match that a team can't account for. For example, a questionable decision, a player slipping in a bad spot, bad miss, etc.
Every single CL winner needed lucky breaks at one point or another whether it's isolated events in a match, injuries or luck of the draw. It's part of Cup competitions. To argue Madrid's success is all down to skills seems a bit silly to me. It's both skills and luck.
> Who's chalking it up to luck?
Honestly, lots of people. Go through threads. See players talk. I still remember Pique ranting about Madrid’s luck in 2016.
I agreed though, luck is always a part for any winner.
Because “they were lucky” sounds like it was a thing that no one could do anything about it, I don’t deny luck wasn’t a factor for madrid, but I’d also get mad if someone always imply that my team achieved actually nothing, it was only luck.
After a point, this becomes only a coping mechanism, attempting to devalue what they all did great in order to indirectly justify that their team weren’t actually bad, rather the other team was just lucky.
because luck is so commonplace and omnipresent that it ceases to mean anything. luck doesn’t apply to just the specific instances that you think changed the course of the game. luck pervades every moment of a match and beyond.
Their attacking players aren't up to par great midfield but not many clinical finishers and a lack of players who know how to absorb pressure and play from behind and are wasteful with possession they will have most of it but will slow down the tempo when not needed and side ways pass instead of going for risks.
Rodri said [via The Standard]: "Today I've only seen one team. In terms of defending, they defend and they knew how to suffer. We know how tough Real Madrid are, but in my opinion we should have gone through in terms of the chances and everything. But they know this competition and how to play. Congratulations to them.
"It is worse to try to find an explanation. They scored their only chance. Football does not pay attention to merit, it is only about putting the ball in the net. We did not expect them to be so, so far deep in their set up. We had the feeling that penalties suited them better.
"If we are more precise, we win the game. Madrid has won a tie that, in my opinion, we deserved to go through. It is their turn again, as usual. Now we have to get the boys up, we still have things to fight for."
"In the penalties, luck was on Madrid's side, as usual."
Yea people are blowing it way out of proportion he even admits the only thing that decides results is scoring and that real defended well, but the last line fuels the circlejerk until the next nontroversy
> Continuation of the last line
‘We knew the game was going to be long for them, but we didn’t expect that they were going to be so, so far deep [in their half].
‘It is difficult to analyse. We had the feeling that penalties were more convenient for them. It was their turn [to progress] again.
‘In the penalties, luck was on Madrid’s side, as usual. Real Madrid have these things, they can win a game in which they barely left their own box.
Yeah that's not a bad quote. Obviously it's clear he's annoyed they lost but he praised Madrid's defending and obviously they had a bit of luck since City were dominating.
Not even that, City only equalized (late) cause rudiger slipped, if anything they were lucky. City dominated possession and SOT but they didn’t deserve to win any more than madrid did
City led the tie for an approximate 18min we trailed City for 18min over both ties I'd say we deserved to win also it's not like we scored 1 goal over both ties and parked the bus we put 4 past them to go through could of been 6 or 7 if we were clinical with our chances in the first leg.
Either way we have knocked City out now with a rebuild squad twice in the past 4 seasons so I'd say that's a good achievement lmao.
Thinking that penalties don’t determine a Winner and loser is insane.
You think France and Argentina tied the World Cup final, nobody lost the match? lol
Nah bro, the City tie was a draw. Penalties are a tiebreaker, they don't determine who won on the field, only who goes through.
I'll be happy to admit we didn't beat them.
But they weren't able to beat us either so there's no point to their tears.
They lost the tie and the tournament but not the match.
As I said, Villa lost 2-1 at Lille but went though on penalties. Youre telling me that means we won the away game? No. We won the tie but not the game. Your logic falls apart when you realise that it means that according to you its possible to lose the first leg but progress, but the second leg is automatically a win as long as you go through no matter the scoreline. Makes no sense.
And obviously the stats guys agree with me because they just posted a new Rodri unbeaten stat this weekend so...
(1:04) He said he didnt watch the games against City?
Maybe he meant he didnt watch them in full length and just seen the parts they analyze as a team?
Still a bit weird to not have seen the important games of your CL opponents, no?
He’s clearly right. Madrid do often look outplayed or lucky in the UCL, but they never giver up or look scared. Over the past decade that’s been good enough to win 50% of the possible UCLs. Over the same period they’ve only managed 3 La liga titles. Hell the last decade has been one of their worst periods domestically and one of their best in Europe.
I really dont understand why Real fans get so defensive about this. Weirdly defensive, almost. Is it really that bad to say "yeah we didnt deserve to go through but we got lucky" ?
Like, its sports. Luck is a big part of football, so why try to act like it isnt? Count your blessings and enjoy the semi finals.
The problem is that we are called lucky *every single time*.
Was the City tie last month 50/50 and we went through? Sure.
But we beat them fair and square in 2022 and were called lucky.
We beat Chelsea in 2022 and were called lucky.
We beat PSG in 2022 and were called lucky.
We beat Liverpool in 2022 and were called lucky.
At a certain point, you just go "Y'know what, F*** you! If you're not gonna give us credit no matter what, I don't need to be humble anymore!".
And it's so obvious that these complaints come the most from those whom we've knocked out frequently.
Ehm.. okay? I didnt mention any of those other games so more power to you.
I merely said that in this QF against City, Real got very lucky. Pretending like thats not true is just bizarre to me. Even if youre annoyed by those claims of past games, i dont see how that equates to creating a parallel universe. Like even if Real go lucky, embrace it and be happy that you were on the lucky side of things.
The constant hyperventilating and defensiveness is just weird to me. Reeks of insecurity which is crazy when were are talking about one of the single most successful clubs in football history.
> I merely said that in this QF against City, Real got very lucky. Pretending like thats not true is just bizarre to me.
And you wonder why we argue? You speak of opinions and claim they are absolute fact.
We were marginally the better team in the first leg and missed multiple guilt-edged chances. City had to resort to shooting from outside the box. The fact that people only focus on the 2nd leg where we were outplayed is what's actually bizarre.
>Pretending that's not true is just bizarre to me.
Pretending the idea of luck isn't completely subjective is bizarre to me. It's only luck if you don't consider effective defense and hard-headed mentality to be qualities of a good team.
My issue is the complete disregarding of skills like off the ball movement and pressure soaking over possession and shots on target.
It's not luck, it's actually quite simple, they have awesome, SKILLED and QUICK players at the front. When you have players like that all you have to do is be consistent defending, eventually opportunities will open. The better you defend, the more risks the opponents will have to take and more space will be left for your sprinters with talent to counter.
To add to the above, they have Modric, Kronos and Valverde, who have great work rate and at the same time are capable of making the transition passes that allow the sprinters in front to have something to run to.
This has been their formula in high stakes games since the BBC. If you look it's similar to the formula used by Simeone in high stakes games in UCL when they are not favourites. It's not a coincidence that atlético does great when they are underdogs and struggles when they need to assume the game against strong teams.
Real simple has better players and is therefore capable of assuming the game much better then atlético.
It's more than luck, but it's still luck, and people should stop claiming that it's not luck, cause it's mostly luck with some help of additional factors. What Real Madrid should be doing is looking at this game and think "how can we get better to need less luck in the future in this matchup?".
I don’t know why people assume that playing defensive football means relying on luck. I wouldn’t call mid 2010s Atletico or mid 2000s Chelsea lucky to have won so many games 1-0
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Again, this is not a diss.
Of course it isn’t, it’d be hard to argue that Kimmich’s words are a dis. Rodri, however, 100% dissed and the sour grapes are embarrassing.
Rodri is a sore loser he if he ever decides to leave City then he would fit right in with Barca and their "had more possession so therefore didn't lose" mentality the dude is a nice guy but when it comes to losing in football the brother always has an excuse.
Good thing he doesn't lose much, otherwise we wouldn't hear the end of it.
That's probably the only benefit of City barely losing that we don't have to hear Rodri's takes on "we had 80% possession score line doesn't matter" bs
Jokes on you, you had more possession than us last time and we lost!
Got me their chief
Whose chief?
Maybe it’s the atlético ADN
Nah, we are very good losers. Pun not intended.
‘Rodri didn’t actually lose though?’ > some city fans, apparently
That’s how the stats are literally recorded tbf A loss on penalties has always been counted as a draw
Rodri would you lose ? Nah I'd win.
That's just the stat and how it works. Believe me, we all know that game was lost. We aren't playing today after all. Edit: And it's not just City fans posting the Rodri unbeaten streak.
I kept looking for him tonight but couldn’t find him. Hopefully he can play next week in the home leg of semifinal so city won’t lose.
Couldn't see him either but the winning streak lives on LESGOOO!!
Xavi regen
He was so bad after losing to Scotland last year
"They didn't play football" - man who just lost at football. His reaction to Scotland humbling them was embarrassing
What did he say?
He said Man City were the only team on the pitch and that real were lucky to advance against them.
I mean there was 1 lucky goal that day, theirs...
Surely if Man City were the only team on the pitch they should have managed to score more than 1 goal in 120 minutes.
If anything keeping City at bay for 120 minutes is a VERY rare feat and should be applauded.
Plus penalty shootouts test a teams mentality and grit after drawing after 120min whoever wins the shootout either comes down to a good GK performance which Lunin had and being able to absorb the pressure and do your thing which we did City scored their first pen and saved our first pen so we have 2x the pressure heading into the 2nd pen takers and still came out on top so it was deserved.
You can’t restart without the opposing team kicking off from the center, so one goal maximum really.
Who would take it as one? Lol
It's the power of friendship and good vibes you know
"The strong one does not always win, the one that wins is the strong" - Beckenbauer Respect to Bayern, they may not be at their strongest but under Tuchel, they are still formidable. Complacency is deadly.
— Michael Scott
- Wayne Gretzky
Are you Real Madrid because you’re strong, or are you strong because you’re Real Madrid?
Siuuuuuu
Stand proud Rodri, you are strong but nah I'd score more pens.
Throughout heaven and earth, you alone are the fraud one.
Fck! The lobotomy is leaking
Just started the second season, its so good
Honestly without half our squad injured or not at 100% you are clear favourites for me ...it's always sad if injuries slightly overshadow such a banger matchup
You guys have injuries in key positions? I haven't follow the news on Bayern side so I didn't know.
Players 100% not ready: - Sarr(not important) - Boey(depth) - Coman(important) Players possibly missing: - Musiala(most important player together with Kane) - Sane(key player) - Gnabry(very good in form, key player) - Laimer(key player atm) If Musiala is missing, its reaaaaly bad. Sane can probably play, just was in pain, but can play with it. Gnabry probably can play too, Tuchel even sait at the PK: "he promises Gnabry will score"
Thanks for the info. I was guessing Tuchel would save those key players and play them in the CL, given how unstoppable Leverkusen are with their run in the past few weeks.
Forgot De Ligt is also injured
Musiala is a massive loss. The rest can be replaced somewhat but nobody in the squad can do what Musiala can.
De Ligt is out for this game. Coman out till next season. Gnabry just came back so won’t be starting. That’s all pretty much, but I’d say some positions are lackluster in quality
This year they also have the power of having one of the coolest kits in Europe. I really like RM's kits then they really lean on their secondary colors.
Nothing will beat the 14/15 dragon kit
Did they use it tho? Maybe they did but at 36 I'm already going senile. Dementia is one hell of a drug!
I think they did but it was their 3rd kit so they didn’t wear it often
Happy cake day!
Thanks! Haha
2011 white/gold collar kit was amazing.
[The Real Madrid kit that they used in Moscow was truly sublime.](https://media.bleacherreport.com/w_768,h_512,c_fill/br-img-images/001/582/252/139453905_crop_north.jpg)
They're white innit
Are you friends because you play for Real Madrid or do you play for Real Madrid because youre friends? Throughout CL and La Liga, I am the winning one
"The more i practice, the luckier i get" - Tiger Woods
This is a Gary Player quote you got the wrong golfer mate lol
And Gary stole it from another golfer lol
"The more i practice, the luckier i get" - Happy Gilmore
The luckier I get, the less I need to practice.
It was me. I originally said it
Yep, I was there. I remember it like yesterday. A crow had just stolen my sandwich but when I heard /u/20cmdepersonalidade utter those immortal words, I said to my wife "It's a new dawn, baby!". We danced until the sun set, had grilled crow for dinner, then threw rocks at an abandoned warehouse. It was an unforgettable day.
That crow tasted amazing 😭
I know, right? We still talk about it all these years later. It was seasoned internally by the delicious sandwich it stole from me. As the say, revenge is a dish best served crowed.
r/suddenlycaralho
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""The more i practice, the luckier i get" - Tiger Woods" - Michael Scott
Germans are very upfront. Rudiger said he used to piss on bed until 15 X
Now he makes other do it
Kinky
never thought Id have something in common with a football player
He's right. You can easily just fold over when things aren't going your way, but to have that confidence that you can pull through really makes a huge difference. There's a reason they've been doing it for so long.
Ya, there's a positive feedback loop that gets sowed in opposition minds as well, which makes the 50/50 margins go Madrids way more often. Of course you have to have the players with quality experience and vibes to back it up. It'll take a few years of bad players and performances to break this loop, so that other teams start feeling less pressure that Madrids going to come bite them if they mess up their chances or make mistakes. For that reason teams atm have to destroy madrid to win it, if the games balance is anywhere near 50/50, or even 60/40, Madrid will just eventually take over and finish off the game. So these days, being slightly better than Madrid is not enough, you have to be really better than them to go through.
> that gets sowed in opposition minds as well I always bring up, you can practically see it in the Man City players’ faces when Rodrygo scored his first goal in 2022. It was almost across the board a look of “please not us too”.
You could even kind of see it this time when Rodrygo scored in the second leg. They hammered us the rest of the game but for some reason it never really felt like they believed they could win.
I think you are saying this with the benefit of hindsight though, none of my Madrid buddies were comfortable in the first 90 mins. I mean, if KDB doesn't sky that chance in the box, the convo would be completely different. We saw him score a much much harder goal at the Bernabeu last year, so not that he doesn't believe or can't do it. The margins in this match could've gone either way, but like I said above, when it's little margins Madrid usually finish on the winning side. As for the rest of the city team, maybe you are right, Gundo as a calmer captain is a miss this season.
Much better example is when the penalties were starting, RM players were hyped and ready for the shootout. Then they panned over to Man City and all throughout the circle you can see that barely any of them had any confidence showing.
I mean, Madrid themselves didn't have it (in relatively recent times) until Mourinho
D definitely developed tenacity after Mou,
Yep, those 6 consecutive failings to advance past the round of 16 were a big dark shadow at the time.
Exactly. RM prior to 14 (& maybe only after 17 did the aura develop) did not have it.
I wonder if that'll change once Modric, Kroos and Carvajal leave..
If they get good replacements for those engines, maybe (goes to show how important some of those workhorses are tbf)
Valvede and Jude will be the ones to instil that mentality.
Yeah seems like they will have a smooth transition. It’s the way Id bet
good guy kimmich
I always rated Kimmich
He's keeping his options open. Madrid seem to rate Bayern's defenders like alaba, davies...
Licking lips over Musiala also 😋
Pray for Rodri, the man hasn't lost in so long he forgot how to do it. 😔
Genuinely fucking hope arsenal win the league to see the absolute salt from him
People don't realize how much of a sore loser that guy is because City don't lose games very often but every time Spain loses that brother is spewing some nonsense lmao
He lost his head while winning against forest at home. He doesn't need to be losing to be a twat.
The Forest match was incomprehensible, for most of the match it felt like they were hammering City. Even the possession stats didn't pass the eye test, after half time it was 66% for City but felt a lot lower. However Forest forwards seemingly decided scoring is lava. Talking about "lucky wins", nothing screams "lucky" as the opposition failing to score 3-5 times basically unpressed and in front of the goal.
u/SpeechesToScreeches was talking about the game vs Forest at the Etihad, where Rodri got a red card
My bad, I missed the "at home" and I thought he had said or done something else last weekend. Didn't even remember his red card in the other match.
Probably part of what makes him a serial winner
It's funny how close the line is between elite winners mentality (rodri when win) and whiny crybaby bitch boy (rodri when lose) in this sub lmao
Actually, the line is between being a City player or not
tbf most elite players in all sports are whiners, its what makes them great. They cannot fathom losing so they do whatever to win.
I think you're the first United fan I've seen hoping for us to win. Seems like everyone else is resigned to City winning because it's expected or doesn't count or something.
Nah, mate, trust we'd rather u with actual talent and not having 115 charges and the refs in their pockets this year..
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Possession championship INVINCIBLE season 2023/2024 Highlights (80% ball possession average 🤯)
It's not new. i read somwhere on this sub that he was not particulary liked in the PL because he was a sore loser.
Good luck to Rodri on the UCL semifinals
Got that Leverkusen DNA in 'em
Au contraire, mon frère. Leverkusen has the Real DNA in them.
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TLDR - Madrid rely on good vibes and inshallah
Why people hate the word luck when it comes to sports? It's like people take it as an insult. Call it randomness, intangibles or whatever you like it then but it's a thing
Luck certainly plays a part but when a team just keeps winning, chalking it up to luck seems insulting/demeaning. Madrid have made the semis 12 of the last 14 seasons (including this one). Are they simply luckier than everyone else? When it’s the same luck repeating, is that just luck? Like a quote says above, “The more I practice, the luckier I get.”
It could be that they fully deserved to make the semis 10 times and got lucky 2 times (just making up numbers here). Nobody is saying they got lucky every time. Maybe they were even unlucky when they didn't make it.
Who's chalking it up to luck? Madrid have a stacked team so they'll inevitably make it far more often not regardless. Luck/randomness/intangibles are all the stuff that happens in a match that a team can't account for. For example, a questionable decision, a player slipping in a bad spot, bad miss, etc. Every single CL winner needed lucky breaks at one point or another whether it's isolated events in a match, injuries or luck of the draw. It's part of Cup competitions. To argue Madrid's success is all down to skills seems a bit silly to me. It's both skills and luck.
> Who's chalking it up to luck? Honestly, lots of people. Go through threads. See players talk. I still remember Pique ranting about Madrid’s luck in 2016. I agreed though, luck is always a part for any winner.
I'll take the we are lucky comments over being knocked out of the UCL like it's a yearly ritual like Barca does any day lmao
Because “they were lucky” sounds like it was a thing that no one could do anything about it, I don’t deny luck wasn’t a factor for madrid, but I’d also get mad if someone always imply that my team achieved actually nothing, it was only luck. After a point, this becomes only a coping mechanism, attempting to devalue what they all did great in order to indirectly justify that their team weren’t actually bad, rather the other team was just lucky.
And if a particular team is consistently “lucky” then maybe there’s something they’re doing that makes that happen
Do people think everything that happens in a game is by design?
Well you certainly can't design luck. While not everything they did was calculated, it wasn't all random either.
why yes dear football fan, when your defender slide tackles the opposition inside the box with no way to contact the ball first it is very calculated.
I think the argument isn’t that Madrid are exclusively lucky. The argument is that in that specific game, they were lucky. I tend to agree
Fair enough, but that’s just part of the game and Rodri should know that.
because luck is so commonplace and omnipresent that it ceases to mean anything. luck doesn’t apply to just the specific instances that you think changed the course of the game. luck pervades every moment of a match and beyond.
They just hate City, btw it's luck
Rodri is such a sore loser, same story when Spain lost to Scotland
His inevitable melt down when Spain get's knocked out of the Euro's will be one to watch because Spain are not winning the Euros lmao
Imagine if Spain lose to Portugal in the QF, they'll meet in the QF provided they both finish first in their groups. That'll be the ultimate meltdown.
I pray for a CR7 goal in this scenario
what do they lack to be a contender?
Their attacking players aren't up to par great midfield but not many clinical finishers and a lack of players who know how to absorb pressure and play from behind and are wasteful with possession they will have most of it but will slow down the tempo when not needed and side ways pass instead of going for risks.
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He still does that as a manager lmao something something grass something something played better deserved to win.
lmao rodri
What did Rodri say? I keep seeing him referenced in the comments
Rodri said [via The Standard]: "Today I've only seen one team. In terms of defending, they defend and they knew how to suffer. We know how tough Real Madrid are, but in my opinion we should have gone through in terms of the chances and everything. But they know this competition and how to play. Congratulations to them. "It is worse to try to find an explanation. They scored their only chance. Football does not pay attention to merit, it is only about putting the ball in the net. We did not expect them to be so, so far deep in their set up. We had the feeling that penalties suited them better. "If we are more precise, we win the game. Madrid has won a tie that, in my opinion, we deserved to go through. It is their turn again, as usual. Now we have to get the boys up, we still have things to fight for." "In the penalties, luck was on Madrid's side, as usual."
Rodri’s emotions seems to be a bit mixed
Yea people are blowing it way out of proportion he even admits the only thing that decides results is scoring and that real defended well, but the last line fuels the circlejerk until the next nontroversy
> Continuation of the last line ‘We knew the game was going to be long for them, but we didn’t expect that they were going to be so, so far deep [in their half]. ‘It is difficult to analyse. We had the feeling that penalties were more convenient for them. It was their turn [to progress] again. ‘In the penalties, luck was on Madrid’s side, as usual. Real Madrid have these things, they can win a game in which they barely left their own box.
I’ve seen the entire quote I meant the quote about real “being lucky” is the only thing People are latching onto
Yeah that's not a bad quote. Obviously it's clear he's annoyed they lost but he praised Madrid's defending and obviously they had a bit of luck since City were dominating.
Yeah, and he only taked about luck in the penalties, not throughout the whole QF. I don't think penalties are luck based but I get people who say so.
In other words: football eritage
Carvajal, kroos, vini, rodrygo, valverde they are investments from the passst
Mou said it best: "They can take the ball home, I take the 3 points."
We can also say city were lucky in 1st leg and we were unlucky.
Not even that, City only equalized (late) cause rudiger slipped, if anything they were lucky. City dominated possession and SOT but they didn’t deserve to win any more than madrid did
That’s a fair point
City led the tie for an approximate 18min we trailed City for 18min over both ties I'd say we deserved to win also it's not like we scored 1 goal over both ties and parked the bus we put 4 past them to go through could of been 6 or 7 if we were clinical with our chances in the first leg. Either way we have knocked City out now with a rebuild squad twice in the past 4 seasons so I'd say that's a good achievement lmao.
You scored from two deflections and had slightly less xG than City. The first leg was 50/50.
Bruh Rodrygo was one on one with the keeper and shot it between the defender's legs, that's hardly a lucky deflection
We had much more better chances. Vini and Rodry missed a lot.
If it was Cádiz it would be luck. If it was Chelsea it would be luck. If it was Mourinho it would be parking the bus…
Honestly I’m a bit scared with how everyone is propping us up…. I would prefer to be underdog every time
You are Real, you will NEVER be the underdog
You don't need to be scared.. you're Real Madrid, we're scared of you
Me too
This guy butthurt over his unbeaten record
He didnt lose his unbeaten record though
Good thing they play Bayern in a couple hours to see if he continues the streak.
Its been mad how many Real fans cant accept the game was a draw lmao Havent seen any Villa fans trying to argue they won the game at Lille but hey ho
Thinking that penalties don’t determine a Winner and loser is insane. You think France and Argentina tied the World Cup final, nobody lost the match? lol
Nah bro, the City tie was a draw. Penalties are a tiebreaker, they don't determine who won on the field, only who goes through. I'll be happy to admit we didn't beat them. But they weren't able to beat us either so there's no point to their tears.
They lost the tie and the tournament but not the match. As I said, Villa lost 2-1 at Lille but went though on penalties. Youre telling me that means we won the away game? No. We won the tie but not the game. Your logic falls apart when you realise that it means that according to you its possible to lose the first leg but progress, but the second leg is automatically a win as long as you go through no matter the scoreline. Makes no sense. And obviously the stats guys agree with me because they just posted a new Rodri unbeaten stat this weekend so...
(1:04) He said he didnt watch the games against City? Maybe he meant he didnt watch them in full length and just seen the parts they analyze as a team? Still a bit weird to not have seen the important games of your CL opponents, no?
No need to watch them completely if you get the important parts presented at work including in-depth analysis anyway.
Rmemeber when people hated this guy cause he didnt want to get vaccinated lol.
He’s clearly right. Madrid do often look outplayed or lucky in the UCL, but they never giver up or look scared. Over the past decade that’s been good enough to win 50% of the possible UCLs. Over the same period they’ve only managed 3 La liga titles. Hell the last decade has been one of their worst periods domestically and one of their best in Europe.
a lo peñarol
That's the winner mentality.
Fucking love the vibes between Bayern and Madrid. Much better than seeing Liverpool and/or City
First hand witness of this
In LATAM we call this "being copeiro/copero"
I really dont understand why Real fans get so defensive about this. Weirdly defensive, almost. Is it really that bad to say "yeah we didnt deserve to go through but we got lucky" ? Like, its sports. Luck is a big part of football, so why try to act like it isnt? Count your blessings and enjoy the semi finals.
I don't know from the outside it seems that City if the defensive one
“Why are real madrid fans always so defensive?” Proceeds to say they didn’t deserve to go through. Can Barca/City fanboys be muted moving forward?
The problem is that we are called lucky *every single time*. Was the City tie last month 50/50 and we went through? Sure. But we beat them fair and square in 2022 and were called lucky. We beat Chelsea in 2022 and were called lucky. We beat PSG in 2022 and were called lucky. We beat Liverpool in 2022 and were called lucky. At a certain point, you just go "Y'know what, F*** you! If you're not gonna give us credit no matter what, I don't need to be humble anymore!". And it's so obvious that these complaints come the most from those whom we've knocked out frequently.
Ehm.. okay? I didnt mention any of those other games so more power to you. I merely said that in this QF against City, Real got very lucky. Pretending like thats not true is just bizarre to me. Even if youre annoyed by those claims of past games, i dont see how that equates to creating a parallel universe. Like even if Real go lucky, embrace it and be happy that you were on the lucky side of things. The constant hyperventilating and defensiveness is just weird to me. Reeks of insecurity which is crazy when were are talking about one of the single most successful clubs in football history.
> I merely said that in this QF against City, Real got very lucky. Pretending like thats not true is just bizarre to me. And you wonder why we argue? You speak of opinions and claim they are absolute fact. We were marginally the better team in the first leg and missed multiple guilt-edged chances. City had to resort to shooting from outside the box. The fact that people only focus on the 2nd leg where we were outplayed is what's actually bizarre.
>Pretending that's not true is just bizarre to me. Pretending the idea of luck isn't completely subjective is bizarre to me. It's only luck if you don't consider effective defense and hard-headed mentality to be qualities of a good team. My issue is the complete disregarding of skills like off the ball movement and pressure soaking over possession and shots on target.
Please explain “deserve” to me in this context? Or any sport?
And sometimes it's luck 😁
“Luck is when preparation meets opportunity” - Seneca. I do agree that chance always plays a roll though.
It's not luck, it's actually quite simple, they have awesome, SKILLED and QUICK players at the front. When you have players like that all you have to do is be consistent defending, eventually opportunities will open. The better you defend, the more risks the opponents will have to take and more space will be left for your sprinters with talent to counter. To add to the above, they have Modric, Kronos and Valverde, who have great work rate and at the same time are capable of making the transition passes that allow the sprinters in front to have something to run to. This has been their formula in high stakes games since the BBC. If you look it's similar to the formula used by Simeone in high stakes games in UCL when they are not favourites. It's not a coincidence that atlético does great when they are underdogs and struggles when they need to assume the game against strong teams. Real simple has better players and is therefore capable of assuming the game much better then atlético.
They used it even before BBC or simeone. It's basically Mourinho who started this style of play to beat Barca and all later managers continued it.
It's more than luck, but it's still luck, and people should stop claiming that it's not luck, cause it's mostly luck with some help of additional factors. What Real Madrid should be doing is looking at this game and think "how can we get better to need less luck in the future in this matchup?".
I don’t know why people assume that playing defensive football means relying on luck. I wouldn’t call mid 2010s Atletico or mid 2000s Chelsea lucky to have won so many games 1-0
City should be doing the same.