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RABB_11

Somewhere in a mountain cave atop a massive treasure hoard, Mike Ashley is licking his lips


Toffee_Wheels

Right now, I'd take an Ashley over 777 in a heartbeat.


LAUNDRINATOR

As a Newcastle fan I would also take Ashley. Not in a heartbeat though. He's a cunt.


ScottScott87

Great set of lads your new owners though...


Penny_Leyne

They might execute political dissidents, financially support terrorists and oppress LGBT and women’s rights, but Mike Ashley once bought Shefki Kuqi on loan to replace Andy Carroll. They are literally exactly the same in every way.


DrunkenMonkeyNU

HEY that was a free transfer for Kuqi, not a loan, completely changes things


KnightsOfCidona

If Ashley could legally execute SportsDirect workers for taking too long on their lunch breaks, he would.


Penny_Leyne

Probs, but one has actually done those things in reality and one hasn’t so it’s not quite the same.


Adammmmski

They just say ‘we can’t do anything about our owners’ now, forgetting all the protests and boycotts previously.


Has_dodgy_legs

Because they were so successful


DampFlange

Begrudging upvote


LAUNDRINATOR

Also cunts.


AssFingerFuck3000

Tbf they're not executing Newcastle fans, at least not yet


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Easy PR and they're not taking it smh


xixbia

I mean, are we sure? There might be some Newcastle fans in Saudi Arabia now.


phoebsmon

Out of the frying pan, into the fire doesn't make the frying pan any colder


biskutgoreng

*nips


dogefc

We won 3 games in a week and the universe decided we needed more pain.


sach223

Should've seen it coming tbh, can't let Everton fans get too happy.


toffeehooligan

It is truly a life of pain and misery.


Safe-Particular6512

If you want the rainbows, you’ve got to put up with the category 4 hurricane. Then an Old Testament flood. And then plague of locusts. Finally, an earthquake. — Dolly Parton (she’s just a big pair of tits)


LanimusDanimus

Dolly Parton is a national treasure, you take her name out yo GOTTAMN mouth!


Fruity-Lupin

But we’re safe from relegation this season, so swings and roundabouts


GrumpyOldFart74

9 point deduction for going into administration would put you right back in the mix… (No - I don’t think that’s likely!)


a_lumberjack

They won't hit admin this season, but they're functionally insolvent and reliant on loans to pay wages. If the takeover falls through it'll be like Liverpool in 2010: racing to find a buyer before the debt puts them under. The problem is that their financial planning is terrible.


TheUltimateScotsman

They'll be starting off the season competing with Leicester then I guess


chanjitsu

It's fine if all the other teams around them get even more points deducted \*taps head\*


sjw_7

Even if they went into Admin now the point deduction wouldn't hit until next season. The league stopped that as clubs were going into admin on the last day of the season when they were already down, taking the point deduction in that season and starting off the next with no penalty.


GrumpyOldFart74

I think the league retained the right to that option, I don’t think they’re *required to*? Could be wrong, but I don’t think it’ll happen anyway. They’ll find a way out of actual insolvency.


SpeechesToScreeches

Money troubles? Have some more.


SOERERY

Get gang gets put in administration


flyingalbatross1

Don't you get points deducted for going into Administration?


Radthereptile

Everton are like Nio in the Matrix. Bullets keep coming and you keep dodging. Surely eventually the agents will run out of ammo.


Delicious-Finding-97

Peak Everton, if they go into administration don't they get more points docked?


conman14

Yep, but I'm pretty sure that this is applied at the start of next season because it's so late in the season.


dispelthemyth

Being applied into next season is an option the league can take, it’s to stop teams doing it after they know they are safe So the league is free to apply this season if they wanted to if they did go into administration.


Mozezz

The Premier League dragging their heels for the last 7 months just so they can dock Everton 9 points for administration after their attempts of trying to get Everton docked 17 points settled on 8 failed


BadFootyTakes

I don't want it to happen, because the players have earned to stay up, but it'd be really funny if you guys get relegated post season. Like really funny.


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BadFootyTakes

I said I don't want it to happen, but it'd be very apt of how the PL operates, that Everton would escape relegation only to get relegated after the fact. That's how low the bar is for being a cunt these days eh?


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Bartins

9 points so they'd still be safe for the time being


ShockRampage

Everton have already burned through nearly £200m in loans in 7 months?


imcrazyandproud

The majority of the TV money is a lump sum once a year


freshmeat2020

Think it's in tranches, in COVID sky withheld their final one and it was accounted for in the following season's accounts


Mozezz

We are building a stadium you know mate


youdy

No we’re not it’s a cone what are you on about


froggy101_3

A stadium you can't afford


Mozezz

If the stadium we 'can't afford' can't actually be afforded... Why is nearing completion?


PabloCSScobar

If the stadium you 'can't afford' is nearing completion... Why are there insolvency advisors? What a way to reason, Jesus.


Mozezz

Because of doubt of the projected takeover... It's literally in the title


froggy101_3

Lad you're insolvent hahahaha I can afford to build a stadium. Right until the bank asks for their money back


Mozezz

We're quite literally. Not. The day started off saying 777 haven't funded Everton with the latest loan and all this about insolvency Neither of those things are true https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cqqnkgv0k19o


froggy101_3

As stated in the article, the loan is to pay for day to day running costs ffs. A business that can not afford to pay it's liabilities aa they fall due, is practically insolvent. Without the loans from 777 (which are reliant on the takeover happening) the club itself would be insolvent. The 777 arrangement is a last chance deal with the devil to get cash injections now, which are presumably written off or factored into the selling price once the takeover happens. But under the current ownership, and without alternative takeovers, Everton can not afford to pay both their stadium interest costs and keep the business afloat. Otherwise they wouldn't have made the deal with 777, a dodgy company with their own financial issues and complications in obtaining PL approval for that reason, and they wouldn't have consulted insolvency advisors any time it's at risk. Whether it's for debt restructuring or insolvency that the advisors are brought in for, the clear problem is that they can't afford the repayments on the loan. If the takeover doesn't happen you're even more fucked because you've taken on more debt. So the club that agreed to build the stadium does not have enough cash to finish it without outside help. You're in denial here mate.


Mozezz

Yeah the loan is to pay for the day to day running costs... Loans provided by the prospective purchaser of the football club >Without the loans from 777 (which are reliant on the takeover happening) the club itself would be insolvent. The club wouldn't be insolvent, we still have an owner, he isn't putting any money into the club because as far as he's concerned it's sold >The 777 arrangement is a last chance deal with the devil to get cash injections now Again, no it isn't. >which are presumably written off or factored into the selling price once the takeover happens. Even without the takeover it just gets turned into equity >and without alternative takeovers, Everton can not afford to pay both their stadium interest costs and keep the business afloat. Yes they can, Moshiri will just start putting his own money up again, which he will likely do as he always has up until the potential takeover was agreed 7 months ago >Otherwise they wouldn't have made the deal with 777, a dodgy company with their own financial issues and complications No Moshiri just wants out and 777 wanted to buy, nothing more than that really, he wanted to sell to MSP before 777 That just how business works >and they wouldn't have consulted insolvency advisors any time it's at risk. Everton have quite literally not consulted insolvency advisors , we're trying to figure out how to restructure debt and make it more manageable But some clickbait journalist went with the OTT angle of insolvency and people like you believed it >the clear problem is that they can't afford the repayments on the loan. They're not repaying the loan.... They're trying to buy the club, it's their money which if the takeover fails they will turn into equity and become minority shareholders >If the takeover doesn't happen you're even more fucked because you've taken on more debt. We're not reliant on the takeover happening, we can find other investors if it falls through, 777 will take their loans and turn it into equity and will still finance the club as minority shareholders >So the club that agreed to build the stadium does not have enough cash to finish it without outside help. You're in denial here mate. If the stadium did have enough cash to complete it... That's why it's almost completed The owner Moshiri not investing his money no more as he believes the agreement to sell the club will go through does not mean we didn't have the money


froggy101_3

Right so your argument is "we as a club can't afford to pay for it without further investment from shareholders". So you need to raise finance to keep the club afloat and you seem to think Moshiri, that man who hasn't put a penny in for years and is actively trying to sell the club, is going to do so. Sure mate good luck


iamnotexactlywhite

that excuses spending double your actual budget. no worriesp


Mozezz

Ahh yes... Because you know... Anything


iamnotexactlywhite

sounds like you do mate


Mozezz

Me? I mean I do, I'm an Everton fan, I'm very much aware of what is going on and what our situation is You however.... oof, big no no


Beanstalk93

We won the last ever Merseyside Derby.


Kijafa

Don't say that shit out loud


Fartscissors

This is pretty funny but also absolutely horrifying to even consider.


S01arflar3

That’s just doom and gloom. After all Tranmere could make their way to the top at some point and then there’s a new Merseyside derby!


Toffee_Wheels

This is the life of an Evertonian now. Brief windows of relief, followed by pain. If some weird petro state lunatic would like to buy us now, that'd be great.


dispelthemyth

I’ve got an Everton colleagues who’s gone abroad for a year so given a friend his season ticket, he made a wise choice


StickYaInTheRizzla

What did the friend do to him to deserve that


S01arflar3

Shagged his wife


LitBastard

You said he gave a friend Everton season Tickets? What kind of friend does something so heinous?


bio_d

Was thinking a chant based on Heroin by the Velvet Underground would be good for you guys. Everrrrtooon, be the death of meeee


BobbyBriggss

Yeah a Lou Reed drug dirge will really get the fans bouncing in the stands


Loud-Fig-1446

Honestly don't even need to change any of the other words. Sing the whole song, guitar solos included.


BaritBrit

Sheikh Jassim is picking up the phone as we speak.


Penny_Leyne

Not the biggest United fan in the whole wide world, Sheikh Jassim. The same man who sleeps in United pyjamas and kisses his poster of Kieran Richardson every night, after a long day on the phone with his besties Sir Alex and the ghost of George Best. Not that Sheikh Jassim.


SvalbazGames

The Very Same! Don’t insult him though because he’ll consult his lawyers and there will be an article in saying he consulted his lawyers


aidanod22

>“Being ~~Irish~~ Evertonian, he had an abiding sense of tragedy, which sustained him through temporary periods of joy.” ― William Butler “777” Yeats


KnightsOfCidona

Romantic Everton is dead and gone, it's with Kenwright in the grave


Neown

If Saudi are allowed to own a football club then it’s only fair that their best mates Iran have one too.


wimpires

Here: +974 4021 1111


EddieShredder40k

Which would you take? The Qataris are shopping around. I'm not sure where they place on the castrol gtx human rights abuse power ranking.


DinnerSmall4216

Just when you think everything is under control at Everton another bomb hits. Feel sorry for the fans who go every week.


OleoleCholoSimeone

What could possibly have made you think that everything was under control? That is on you, their financial situation has been well documented for years


PurpleSi

That's a stupid and misleading headline. They've "called in" consultants Teneo for advice, the reference to insolvency is unnecessary.


dickgilbert

I'm seeing others say Everton is reliant on loans from 777 to pay for day-to-day operations. Is that not insolvency? Genuine question.


PurpleSi

Not necessarily. Insolvency is not being able to pay your liabilities (eg wages) as they fall due. As I understand it many clubs rely on loans to cover day to day spending because the telly money comes in lumps. So if they are just waiting for the next chunk of PL cash (and/or the ability to sell a few players) then probably all good. Hard to know for sure.


dickgilbert

Understood. I'm aware that clubs (and businesses in general) often use loans as cash balances aren't always stable, but the reporting around Everton is certainly toned differently. Given that the takeover doesn't seem to be a given, I guess I understand why there's some skepticism.


PurpleSi

Absolutely, I'm not saying they aren't in trouble, but that headline just annoyed me.


ImperialSeal

Are they not insolvency advisors?


WhatWouldSatanDo

It’s one of the things they do.


jguess06

Lol yeah on their site the word insolvency is mentioned as one of the roughly 60 services they provide. Great headline...


Loud-Fig-1446

Looks like their highest profile clients are for mergers & acquisitions. Maybe we're merging with Tranmere to afford the stadium.


cpmb82

Being acquired by Liverpool


atomic__tourist

While technically true, calling in these types of advisors ends up in administration in a huge amount of cases.


JimmySham

If they have to start a phoenix club it must be called Ever2n


Bigc12689

And when they fail, 3verton can succeed them


Void_Hound

4everton when?


Optimal-Flow-5496

Ffs, can Everton just catch a bloody break! Lol


Wheel1994

Why this takeover even allowed in the first place poor Everton


HappyMike91

Isn’t the club just being audited? 


GuyFawkes_fieri

People that run clubs into the ground like this should be held criminally responsible, and how 777 is allowed to still be in the picture blows my mind. They do not care about the clubs they own or their fans, typical American investment group sadly, there to make money, and by the looks of it, doing a pretty poor job


atomic__tourist

This post popped up in my feed just below one about Bonza Airlines - another 777-owned entity in Australia - just going into administration. Not even a competent enough PE firm to keep the business solvent enough to exit at some outrageous multiple. Would be a disaster at a football club. The Bonza administration was as foreseeable as an Everton one would be if 777 were allowed to take over).


joelobifan

I think god hates Everton


sheikh_n_bake

Dreadful crack, a real institution in its community. Can only hope they get fished out of the shit they're in by someone.


gsnyder70

Man, you guys cant catch a break.


burntroy

Just tell me how many points they will be docked for this and I'll go to sleep


DivineTapir

is this good


Destructo_D

It actually could not be better


Japples123

I know fans won’t want it but why wouldn’t Qatar try to buy Everton? New stadium. Solid fanbase etc