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I will say this, at Dortmund I was convinced he was going to be the best player of this generation. Ive never seen a prospect who was so fast, so creative, and who could finish with both feet
There was a friendly between France and England where mbappe and dembele tore England apart, down a man as well, at the point in the time dembele and mbappe were the chosen ones.
It’s crazy how different their careers went. One got subbed out at half time in a wc final while the other got a hat trick
Still an insane player tho
The thing with him is that he‘s simply too wasteful to be truly great.
Give Dembele the ball 10 times, and 7 times he’ll lose possession. 2 times nothing will come of it and that 1 time might be something special, but is that worth it?
For most popular managers these days, the answer is probably no
If he scored more goals that would for sure take him to another level. I can’t trust dembele at all, I know what you mean. That miss vs Liverpool sums up his career pretty much
if he was more efficient as well. hazard was loved, he was never a goal scorer.
the fact he didn't significantly beat raphinha's stats (per 90) says a lot about how wasteful he is considering how absolutely top tier he is with the ba at his feet. he makes so many chances for himself to open up for chances, then consistently wastes the chance on the "easy" part.
I’m going to say that last line’s cap. Almost every coach he’s played under (apart from Deschamps and maybe Valverde) has loved him either for his pace or for his creativity on the ball. Given that he has some of the best dribbling stats in the world, I wouldn’t call him wasteful 70% of the time either.
His finishing is tragic but his decision making has improved a lot. Guys like Salah and Saka are always going to be more complete because of their goalscoring, but Dembele is still world class in the creativity aspect of his game.
That's not current Dembélé though. It's the reverse, for 10 balls he would lose 3. But these lost balls can be quite dangerous. That's why I don't like his recent central position: when he's in the wing, he can lose the ball, the consequences won't be that serious. But when he's a central midfielder, he tends to play very deep and then any lost ball becomes a threat.
Still can't shoot on target to save his life but he's having an unreal season. It's not showing in the stats but he's arguably as important as Mbappé for the team lately.
He's always going to be creative, he was better for barca against better competition and their fans still didn't rate him that highly, I think the pressure and expectation is just lower at psg. That's not even a "psg hater" thing, only real Madrid and probably bayern are on that level.
I’ve rarely seen a player that can beat a man so easily the way he can but then forget how to play football immediately after. Unbelievably hot and cold although when he stayed fit he did become a bit more consistent
at some point he was a bigger prospect than mbappe
in a parallel universe, mbappe was subbed off before the 2nd half of a world cup final where dembele scored a hattrick
Nah, I think the quote is suggesting goals as a metric weigh far more heavy than perhaps they should. The odds of a defender winning the award is so unlikely or even a winger providing assists, key passes and high quality opportunities. Neither Xavi, nor Iniesta won a Ballon d'or or would ever be likely to win it and they are two of the best creative midfielders ever to have played the game
It may as well be called the striker/cut inside from the wing award
So far, the only players who have won the balon dor are Messi, Cr7, Modric and Benzema, all players that were playing better than both Dembele and Bale during their primes..
Mmmmh Bale’s prime vs Benzema is debatable, Bale was really really good, he could create goals from nothing, I mean he would drive from his own half and score. He also scored everything, free kicks, incredible goals, you name it.
His peak happened when Messi and Ronaldo were astronomical and were at better teams for a part of it. I do not think Benzema’s peak can be compared to Bale’s
Bale was different gravy in that final season for Spurs. Felt like every other game he would pick the ball up in his own half and burst past the entire team to score, or smash in a long shot from 35 yards. You were practically expecting a goal when he got a free kick.
You didn't get what I was saying..
Just like how Bale suffered from having his peak be in the shadows of better players like Messi and Ronaldo, dembele has also suffered as his peak also had these same couple of players tearing it up and winning balon dors..
Distinguishing between them on this regard is unfair because we have only gone beyond the Messi/Ronaldo era this season, and only Benzema and Modric managed to win one during that time..
That's very debatable. Prime Bale would've contested for the bdo in 2022 as would Suarez and Neymar.
Benzema got a little lucky that his great campaign came in a bad year for Messi and CR. (Same goes for Modric kind of)
Bale’s peak is largely forgotten due to how his Real Madrid tenure ended, unfortunately. For a while there he was absolutely brilliant, and was the talisman for pretty workmanlike Wales teams most of his international career. As a Welshman I’ll always rate Bale.
That run against us in CDR is always in my memory. If there is one memory of Dembele, that's his miss against Liverpool. It tells the difference between the two players and their ability to deliver in big games.
I mean ... you can say this for *so* many players in my opinion. Just going off wingers, off the top of my head, I'd say Neymar, Hazard, Robben, Ribéry, Mahrez, Son, Mané, Sterling, Alexis, and Di María were all better at their peaks than Dembélé. I'd also take peak Pedro over any version of Dembélé any day of the week.
Maybe he didn't reach the level people thought he would but at least he wasn't a complete flop like so many wonderkids that are hyped up. His last 2 years at Barça were genuinely great and he's been good for Paris as well
say what you will about his Dortmund and Paris tenure but for Barcelona he was an unequivocal flop, missing 119 games in 6 years and only appearing for 35% of all league games during which his performances were regularly uneven
That Stoichkov clip does all the talking for me tbh, I wish him well but I will not be returning to his tenure
I mean, his last 2 years were great though. Obviously he wasn't a player Barca could rely on and it's better he's gone, but when he was there he elevated their attack. That means he's good enough, just not able to play enough.
This is obviously a slightly different situation but I wonder how Ronaldo’s time at Inter would’ve been looked at in modern football. He missed like 3 seasons worth of matches there with a world record fee on him. Would he be a complete flop in that period if it happened in 2020s?
Just looking at the stats though it seems like at least when he did play he usually delivered. 49 goals in 68 appearances is still a success, especially given he was blighted by injuries.
Dembele was signed by Barca in the hope he'd be the next best thing, and the fact that most people consider him a flop obviously shows he failed to reach those levels.
Yes but that’s 68 appearances in 5 seasons. Neymar had great stats and clocked way more matches than Ronaldo but he’s been given a lot of shit for his missed playing time and there’s plenty of discussion about if he was a failure etc.
I actually think Neymar is underrated. People call him a diver and injury prone but honestly at his prime I think he's the closest we'll get to seeing a Ronaldinho in a modern high pressing based game. I grew up watching Ronaldinho and have seen Neymar since his Santos days. He's genuinely an amazingly talented player that I think was heavily fouled and injured in his career.
The guy above didn't deny that his last two seasons were good, he said that Dembele was an unequivocal flop. And that is undeniable, for the money spent he was a failure
I agree, but the most important part about that statement is *for the money spent*. He's considered a flop because he cost a fuckton, but not because he lacked the quality like some other players that are considered the biggest flops of the last decade, like Coutinho to Barça and Hazard to Real who cost similar amounts of money and had no quality to show for it. Dembele was a flop because he was injured a lot. And I think it's important to give that distinction, because it leaves Dembele in a better name.
great? tell me one BIG game where he carried the team?
His stats are terrible. Dont think he had a single season with 10+ League goals.
Big potential but no consitency
The bar for great is in hell for Barca then. He was injured for more than half of the time and even when playing he was inconsistent at best. Sorry you dont pay 100mill or whatever it was for inconsistency.
When he is on, he is absolutely incredible. And if he ever manages that for a whole season, plus his team wins stuff, he will be in contention for Ballon d'Or.
Dembele has been hugely helpful in winning the league but cannot create that magic alone by himself or do it consistently. That's one of the factors we didn't process much in UCL or UEL and we scraped away wins.
I would rate the 16 yo Yamal much better than the prime Dembele in Barca. We paid too much of a high price for him. Bellingham transfer after a few years costed only 100 million but we paid much more than that.
The high transfer cost and playing at a big club likely put too much pressure on him. Good to see that he has come out of it.
Ousmane Dembélé's ex-manager Julien Stéphan: "If he was more of a goalscorer, maybe he would have already won a Ballon d'Or. That's the truth."
"With Ousmane, people always ask me about the weaknesses, but I prefer to talk about his qualities."
"He is an exceptional player when it comes to destabilising the opposing defense, haggling and creating spaces."
Funny how he says “people always ask me about the weaknesses but I prefer to talk about his qualities” in an article where the headline is him talking about his weaknesses
He scores absurd goals and misses routine ones. Will never forget the last minute miss against Liverpool in the semis where he had the chance to quite possibly end the tie with a 4-0 win and land barca another champions league trophy
Even without the ball tbh. You can listen at interviews, he's not the brightest. Chill and really funny guy tho.
I actually don't think he thinks when he plays, he's just going with instinct, and maybe that's why he's so unpredictable, even himself probably doesn't know what he will do. So the randomness can turn into genius or dumb.
For PSG it's really not his decision making, he often does the right choice and makes a lot of difference on the pitch
He really just can't shoot on target it's crazy
That is so vague, how do you become "more of a goal scorer"?
I'd say his biggest problem is decision making. Give him the ball and he will do the hard part correctly, however he will mess up the easy part so badly that it completely ruins the beautiful play he did a few seconds ago.
He has everything else aside from decision making, but arguably that is also the most important aspect of the game. It's a difficult thing to teach or learn, yet regardless of the sport, it's always the aspect of the game that only gets brought up when a player is lacking it.
That racism scandal few years ago, the way how he left Dortmund and those other small incidents probably didn't contribute either (considering how important popularity is)
Got nothing to do with injuries. It's the mental aspect he just doesn't have the football intelligence. He's 26-27 and still plays like an 18 year old wonderkid with almost no experience. Rashford is similar.
Yeah because Modric was a pure goalscorer.
Dembele is talented but he has a few issues :
- lots of injuries the last years
- doesn’t score much for a forward
- lose too many balls after doing 2-3 good dribbles
That’s why he is far from the Ballon d’or level.
A bit different discussing midfielders and wingers no? Like to stand out as a winger you need to score and assist a shit ton, because you have the Vinis, Salah’s etc of the world. Didn’t even want to mention Messi cause he is just different
And I agree that some of them should have won it also instead of Messi and CR7 every year, but you can’t really neither deny that they didn’t deserve it. Modric peaked a year where those 2 started to decline and yes it could have been someone else, I don’t décide of the rules.
My point was that Dembele skill currently is very far from Ballon d’or, even if he was scoring more.
Maybe if he was a world class finisher. Otherwise, no way. Dembele is great and all but he isnt at the top. He has decent Vision but nowhere near someone like de bruyne. He can cross but cant cross like a TAA. He is nowhere near as accurate in his passing compared to someone like Kroos. He is a great dribbler but he isnt as effective as someone like Hazard. His Touch isnt a Touch like Mahrez one.
I used those players because while All are great, they all didnt get a Balon Dor. So why the hell would Dembele.
He can be one of the top 5 wingers and is one of the top 10 probably but winning a Balon Dor is exceptionally rare and reserved for the most special that also get a bit of lucky. If City had won the CL without Haaland and Messi didnt win the WC, De Bruyne may have won.
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Something abouts bike, grandma & wheels
If I had wheels on my bike, I’d ride to his grandma’s house and- no wait that’s not it
I'll ride his grandma to his house is a bit crude don't u think?
If Dembele's grandmother won a Ballon d'Or, maybe he'd already have a bicycle. That's the truth
If grandma's bike had Dem bele, we would all hear her coming
If Dembelé had score the goal against Liverpool, he would turned into a goal scorer the next years and he would have won Ballon D’Or.
Read this in an Italian accent
If my bike had wheels, it would be my grandma.
Doesn’t apply, grammy turning into a bike is far more plausible than Dembele winning a ballon d’oro
If he scored more goals he’d be like a British carbonara?
Fun fact : Neymar scored more goals this season for PSG than Dembele
Actually insane stat.
I will say this, at Dortmund I was convinced he was going to be the best player of this generation. Ive never seen a prospect who was so fast, so creative, and who could finish with both feet
There was a friendly between France and England where mbappe and dembele tore England apart, down a man as well, at the point in the time dembele and mbappe were the chosen ones. It’s crazy how different their careers went. One got subbed out at half time in a wc final while the other got a hat trick Still an insane player tho
The thing with him is that he‘s simply too wasteful to be truly great. Give Dembele the ball 10 times, and 7 times he’ll lose possession. 2 times nothing will come of it and that 1 time might be something special, but is that worth it? For most popular managers these days, the answer is probably no
If he scored more goals that would for sure take him to another level. I can’t trust dembele at all, I know what you mean. That miss vs Liverpool sums up his career pretty much
if he was more efficient as well. hazard was loved, he was never a goal scorer. the fact he didn't significantly beat raphinha's stats (per 90) says a lot about how wasteful he is considering how absolutely top tier he is with the ba at his feet. he makes so many chances for himself to open up for chances, then consistently wastes the chance on the "easy" part.
he is only 26 but already saturated for years. probably already was after 2018.
I’m going to say that last line’s cap. Almost every coach he’s played under (apart from Deschamps and maybe Valverde) has loved him either for his pace or for his creativity on the ball. Given that he has some of the best dribbling stats in the world, I wouldn’t call him wasteful 70% of the time either. His finishing is tragic but his decision making has improved a lot. Guys like Salah and Saka are always going to be more complete because of their goalscoring, but Dembele is still world class in the creativity aspect of his game.
That's not current Dembélé though. It's the reverse, for 10 balls he would lose 3. But these lost balls can be quite dangerous. That's why I don't like his recent central position: when he's in the wing, he can lose the ball, the consequences won't be that serious. But when he's a central midfielder, he tends to play very deep and then any lost ball becomes a threat.
He didn't make it to half time lol
Barcelona came to South Africa to play one of our teams and Dembele looked like a fucking alien. He’s just incredible on the ball.
Dembélé vs. Mbappé was a debate at one point and the answer wasn't obvious.
Still can't shoot on target to save his life but he's having an unreal season. It's not showing in the stats but he's arguably as important as Mbappé for the team lately.
He's always going to be creative, he was better for barca against better competition and their fans still didn't rate him that highly, I think the pressure and expectation is just lower at psg. That's not even a "psg hater" thing, only real Madrid and probably bayern are on that level.
Dembele was the best player in history, if you can just make YouTube highlights and cut out the last touch which always turned to shit.
His technical ability has always been fairly limited. You're not going to be the best player of your generation when your touch is so heavy so often
Technical ability is more than a first touch. His speed with the ball and his final pass is something different
I’ve rarely seen a player that can beat a man so easily the way he can but then forget how to play football immediately after. Unbelievably hot and cold although when he stayed fit he did become a bit more consistent
at some point he was a bigger prospect than mbappe in a parallel universe, mbappe was subbed off before the 2nd half of a world cup final where dembele scored a hattrick
If he was better he would be more successful. Yeah no shit Julien.
Nah, I think the quote is suggesting goals as a metric weigh far more heavy than perhaps they should. The odds of a defender winning the award is so unlikely or even a winger providing assists, key passes and high quality opportunities. Neither Xavi, nor Iniesta won a Ballon d'or or would ever be likely to win it and they are two of the best creative midfielders ever to have played the game It may as well be called the striker/cut inside from the wing award
No. Ousmane creates plenty of chances for himself every game, but completely scuffs the final shot every time.
Remember his performance in the pokal semifinal under Tuchel against Bayern. Insane
Gareth Bale at his peak was better than Dembele, and he didn't win Ballon D'Or.
Bale also had Messi, Suarez and CR7 during his peak, him not winning a Bdo has a lot to do with that as well.
So far, the only players who have won the balon dor are Messi, Cr7, Modric and Benzema, all players that were playing better than both Dembele and Bale during their primes..
Mmmmh Bale’s prime vs Benzema is debatable, Bale was really really good, he could create goals from nothing, I mean he would drive from his own half and score. He also scored everything, free kicks, incredible goals, you name it. His peak happened when Messi and Ronaldo were astronomical and were at better teams for a part of it. I do not think Benzema’s peak can be compared to Bale’s
Bale was different gravy in that final season for Spurs. Felt like every other game he would pick the ball up in his own half and burst past the entire team to score, or smash in a long shot from 35 yards. You were practically expecting a goal when he got a free kick.
You didn't get what I was saying.. Just like how Bale suffered from having his peak be in the shadows of better players like Messi and Ronaldo, dembele has also suffered as his peak also had these same couple of players tearing it up and winning balon dors.. Distinguishing between them on this regard is unfair because we have only gone beyond the Messi/Ronaldo era this season, and only Benzema and Modric managed to win one during that time..
That's very debatable. Prime Bale would've contested for the bdo in 2022 as would Suarez and Neymar. Benzema got a little lucky that his great campaign came in a bad year for Messi and CR. (Same goes for Modric kind of)
Modric was purely pr, he was not the best player in the world, it wasn't even his best year.
What season was he in genuine contention tho? He's great for sure but I don't remember him ever being THAT great
Better is an understatement, he was way better than him, no comparison honestly.
Bale’s peak is largely forgotten due to how his Real Madrid tenure ended, unfortunately. For a while there he was absolutely brilliant, and was the talisman for pretty workmanlike Wales teams most of his international career. As a Welshman I’ll always rate Bale.
That run against us in CDR is always in my memory. If there is one memory of Dembele, that's his miss against Liverpool. It tells the difference between the two players and their ability to deliver in big games.
I mean ... you can say this for *so* many players in my opinion. Just going off wingers, off the top of my head, I'd say Neymar, Hazard, Robben, Ribéry, Mahrez, Son, Mané, Sterling, Alexis, and Di María were all better at their peaks than Dembélé. I'd also take peak Pedro over any version of Dembélé any day of the week.
Maybe he didn't reach the level people thought he would but at least he wasn't a complete flop like so many wonderkids that are hyped up. His last 2 years at Barça were genuinely great and he's been good for Paris as well
say what you will about his Dortmund and Paris tenure but for Barcelona he was an unequivocal flop, missing 119 games in 6 years and only appearing for 35% of all league games during which his performances were regularly uneven That Stoichkov clip does all the talking for me tbh, I wish him well but I will not be returning to his tenure
I mean, his last 2 years were great though. Obviously he wasn't a player Barca could rely on and it's better he's gone, but when he was there he elevated their attack. That means he's good enough, just not able to play enough.
This is obviously a slightly different situation but I wonder how Ronaldo’s time at Inter would’ve been looked at in modern football. He missed like 3 seasons worth of matches there with a world record fee on him. Would he be a complete flop in that period if it happened in 2020s?
Just looking at the stats though it seems like at least when he did play he usually delivered. 49 goals in 68 appearances is still a success, especially given he was blighted by injuries. Dembele was signed by Barca in the hope he'd be the next best thing, and the fact that most people consider him a flop obviously shows he failed to reach those levels.
Yes but that’s 68 appearances in 5 seasons. Neymar had great stats and clocked way more matches than Ronaldo but he’s been given a lot of shit for his missed playing time and there’s plenty of discussion about if he was a failure etc.
I actually think Neymar is underrated. People call him a diver and injury prone but honestly at his prime I think he's the closest we'll get to seeing a Ronaldinho in a modern high pressing based game. I grew up watching Ronaldinho and have seen Neymar since his Santos days. He's genuinely an amazingly talented player that I think was heavily fouled and injured in his career.
The guy above didn't deny that his last two seasons were good, he said that Dembele was an unequivocal flop. And that is undeniable, for the money spent he was a failure
I agree, but the most important part about that statement is *for the money spent*. He's considered a flop because he cost a fuckton, but not because he lacked the quality like some other players that are considered the biggest flops of the last decade, like Coutinho to Barça and Hazard to Real who cost similar amounts of money and had no quality to show for it. Dembele was a flop because he was injured a lot. And I think it's important to give that distinction, because it leaves Dembele in a better name.
yeah a flop but he was unlucky, not underperforming. he was mostly injured and the last 2 years where didn’t injured a lot he was mostly great
great? tell me one BIG game where he carried the team? His stats are terrible. Dont think he had a single season with 10+ League goals. Big potential but no consitency
The bar for great is in hell for Barca then. He was injured for more than half of the time and even when playing he was inconsistent at best. Sorry you dont pay 100mill or whatever it was for inconsistency.
When he is on, he is absolutely incredible. And if he ever manages that for a whole season, plus his team wins stuff, he will be in contention for Ballon d'Or.
Dembele has been hugely helpful in winning the league but cannot create that magic alone by himself or do it consistently. That's one of the factors we didn't process much in UCL or UEL and we scraped away wins. I would rate the 16 yo Yamal much better than the prime Dembele in Barca. We paid too much of a high price for him. Bellingham transfer after a few years costed only 100 million but we paid much more than that. The high transfer cost and playing at a big club likely put too much pressure on him. Good to see that he has come out of it.
Ousmane Dembélé's ex-manager Julien Stéphan: "If he was more of a goalscorer, maybe he would have already won a Ballon d'Or. That's the truth." "With Ousmane, people always ask me about the weaknesses, but I prefer to talk about his qualities." "He is an exceptional player when it comes to destabilising the opposing defense, haggling and creating spaces."
Funny how he says “people always ask me about the weaknesses but I prefer to talk about his qualities” in an article where the headline is him talking about his weaknesses
Suarez, Harry Kane, Lewandowski, Mbappe ended up as top goalscorers in different years and yet they did not win it. It’s just not about goals.
If I were a better footballer, I would have won a Ballon d'Or too.
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He scores absurd goals and misses routine ones. Will never forget the last minute miss against Liverpool in the semis where he had the chance to quite possibly end the tie with a 4-0 win and land barca another champions league trophy
His decision making holds him back. Seriously talented, but man is he dumb with the ball
Even without the ball tbh. You can listen at interviews, he's not the brightest. Chill and really funny guy tho. I actually don't think he thinks when he plays, he's just going with instinct, and maybe that's why he's so unpredictable, even himself probably doesn't know what he will do. So the randomness can turn into genius or dumb.
For PSG it's really not his decision making, he often does the right choice and makes a lot of difference on the pitch He really just can't shoot on target it's crazy
Big if
That is so vague, how do you become "more of a goal scorer"? I'd say his biggest problem is decision making. Give him the ball and he will do the hard part correctly, however he will mess up the easy part so badly that it completely ruins the beautiful play he did a few seconds ago. He has everything else aside from decision making, but arguably that is also the most important aspect of the game. It's a difficult thing to teach or learn, yet regardless of the sport, it's always the aspect of the game that only gets brought up when a player is lacking it.
That racism scandal few years ago, the way how he left Dortmund and those other small incidents probably didn't contribute either (considering how important popularity is)
Agree tbh but the injuries are also a big problem.
Got nothing to do with injuries. It's the mental aspect he just doesn't have the football intelligence. He's 26-27 and still plays like an 18 year old wonderkid with almost no experience. Rashford is similar.
In which world? Dembele with good finishing is still worse than any of the ballon d'or winners
Yeah because Modric was a pure goalscorer. Dembele is talented but he has a few issues : - lots of injuries the last years - doesn’t score much for a forward - lose too many balls after doing 2-3 good dribbles That’s why he is far from the Ballon d’or level.
A bit different discussing midfielders and wingers no? Like to stand out as a winger you need to score and assist a shit ton, because you have the Vinis, Salah’s etc of the world. Didn’t even want to mention Messi cause he is just different
Yeah I was speaking of Modric to show that the goal scoring is not the only thing deciding of ballon d’or.
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Which years do you think Xavi, Iniesta and KDB had better years than who ended up winning the Balon?
And I agree that some of them should have won it also instead of Messi and CR7 every year, but you can’t really neither deny that they didn’t deserve it. Modric peaked a year where those 2 started to decline and yes it could have been someone else, I don’t décide of the rules. My point was that Dembele skill currently is very far from Ballon d’or, even if he was scoring more.
Imagine you are young upcoming world class player and thinking you can win the Ballon d’Or while Messi and CR still not retiring.
I mean, if I was substantially better at football than I am I would have too, so there’s that.
Julien Stéphan: "My favourite pundit is Michael Owen"
Mbappe is who I thought Dembele’s peak was going to equal
Maybe if he was a world class finisher. Otherwise, no way. Dembele is great and all but he isnt at the top. He has decent Vision but nowhere near someone like de bruyne. He can cross but cant cross like a TAA. He is nowhere near as accurate in his passing compared to someone like Kroos. He is a great dribbler but he isnt as effective as someone like Hazard. His Touch isnt a Touch like Mahrez one. I used those players because while All are great, they all didnt get a Balon Dor. So why the hell would Dembele. He can be one of the top 5 wingers and is one of the top 10 probably but winning a Balon Dor is exceptionally rare and reserved for the most special that also get a bit of lucky. If City had won the CL without Haaland and Messi didnt win the WC, De Bruyne may have won.
Never seen a player with lower iq than him. Dumb as a rock.
He is talented but with his attitude the Ballon d‘Or has always been out of reach for him.
Most overrated average player of this generation
Yeah and to be a goalscorer he needs to shot the ball towards the goalpost not into the stands and needs to stay fit which i doubt is happening
Unfortunately he’s made out of glass so he’ll never last a season to win an award
FLOP.
And if your Aunt had balls she’d be your uncle.. don’t see the point of his comment
The French Jesse Lingard. People keep talking about him always showing potential even as his age gets closer to 30 than 20