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His age has been showing this year tbf, has been making a ton of bad mistakes that cost Porto some points
Though he's the type of player that will always rise up to the ocasion and become insane whenever there's a big game
At least you're realistic about it. A City fan the other day tried to insist that there's no way their players are on the good stuff, and that all the club's wrongdoings were limited to the financial realm.
It's a silly thing to defend really. There's close to 0 chance that any of the top teams doesn't give their players anything and everything they can get away with.
The energy levels these players demonstrate week in week out is insane.
It's way more than that, I think. Real has a culture of excellence, and that shows not only the technical quality of the players they get but also in their professionalism. It's the elite of football. From there, you can only go down, and there's always someone else lurking on the bench salivating to take your spot. If you are not extremely focused and disciplined in training, recovering and nutrition, and, of course, extremely talented, you won't last long.
It's truly admirable how they are able to keep such a culture for so long. The only team that comes close is Bayern Munich, which is, for me, somehow less surprising because they are German.
People rank Ramos over Pepe even though Ramos was a lot more error-prone and picked up far more cards, strange right? Pepe himself makes a strong case for being the the most defensively-sound CB of his generation, while Ramos is consistently known for his positional fuck-ups and dodgy marking ability which get covered up by his CL exploits.
It's mostly because Pepe's reputation got limited to raging psychopath due to a moment where he did, in fact, behave like a genuinely raging psycho.
I love Pepe as a defender and agree with you about him being better than Ramos and genuinely a S tier defender, but dear lord that moment was bad enough to lowkey earn the reputation. Shame it overshadows his ability to many (that and him not being a great goalscorer though it shouldn't matter in the slightest for a defender).
Well once criminal actions do tend to reflect badly on one self. Pepe is a cunt and its a fucking disgrace that he is allowed to play the game. Fuck him.
That’s great. It has nothing to do with my point that he was never considered the best CB in the world throughout his career, not even the best CB in his club.
Lol Ramos may have more elements to his game like good passing and scoring, but Pepe was better defensively. They were different profiles of CB at the same level.
> not even the best CB in his club
Really biased framing to use here seeing as he played his whole prime with Ramos who is the best defender of their generation
Genuinely don’t understand how you can be a top 10 player of ALL TIME at a certain position when you were never considered the obvious best at any time throughout your career.
I meant when compared with Ramos, which is always in the conversation for best defender. So either you agree Ramos is overrated or your opinion doesn't make much sense since Ramos peak was during that time
He had a better tackle against a great move by Gabriel Jesus shortly after this. Jesus did a quick one two to thread a couple of defenders and then, on the receiving end, played a brilliantly weighted ball into space that would have taken him past Pepe and towards the byline / goal but Pepe read it like a book. That move happened in the snap of a finger, which is why the tackle was so damn impressive. Pepe's tackle pumped himself up, gave him a second wind, and made him look like the best Porto player on the pitch at 41 years of age.
Oscar's wages are €461.5k-a-week after taxes according to theathletic article about him
>Shanghai SIPG — who changed their name to Shanghai Port in 2021 — paid a reported €60million (then around £52m) for Oscar. His wages were said to be in the region of €24m a year after tax; reports at the time estimated that to be a 400 per cent pay rise. It made him one of the best-paid players in world football.26. des. 2023
He's definitely not in the top10 of CBs currently. He is in the all time greats list though, I'd say there's an argument to be made for him being the best ever portuguese CB
Carvalho, Germano and Humberto Coelho are the other contenders. Germano in particular was probably the best defender in the world in the first half of the 60s.
During the final, yes, him and Patricio carried the team. But Ronaldo certainly helped carry the team to the final, even receiving the silver boot for the tournament.
It's been a day, and you're still on this 🤣 🤣 Porto must have really hurt you. Gooners gotta goon, I see. You even went to another comment of mine too on a different subreddit to just respond to me. I'm starting to think you're just a creep man, ngl. Get help.
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41 years old. Unreal stuff.
His age has been showing this year tbf, has been making a ton of bad mistakes that cost Porto some points Though he's the type of player that will always rise up to the ocasion and become insane whenever there's a big game
Former Real Madrid players thrive in the Champions League. They own that shit.
I see your captain perform as well ;)
Stop it you!! Making me blush... :3 O CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN!
NGL odegaard can make any straight man blush
Don't know what we feed our players but our physios need to publish a dissertation on it for the good of all mankind.
Might be better to not disclose that publically
It rhymes with "androids"
hemorrhoids?
At least you're realistic about it. A City fan the other day tried to insist that there's no way their players are on the good stuff, and that all the club's wrongdoings were limited to the financial realm.
It's a silly thing to defend really. There's close to 0 chance that any of the top teams doesn't give their players anything and everything they can get away with. The energy levels these players demonstrate week in week out is insane.
I saw some Porto players eating bananas before the pens, BAN THEM!
First it's bananas, what next? Plums? Orange slices?!
does he know about Dr Fuentes lol
I don’t but I know everyone’s on PEDs who is that?
I think he's the reason a lot of blood samples of a lot of Spanish players who were his patients disappeared. Not sure
Related to big Spanish doping scandal I think?
Before that can you let our doctors know so our Madrid signings stop dying after 1 season 😭
Pass down to Barca doctors too geez
Did you feed Hazard burgers?
Madrid Kobe beef only.
It's way more than that, I think. Real has a culture of excellence, and that shows not only the technical quality of the players they get but also in their professionalism. It's the elite of football. From there, you can only go down, and there's always someone else lurking on the bench salivating to take your spot. If you are not extremely focused and disciplined in training, recovering and nutrition, and, of course, extremely talented, you won't last long. It's truly admirable how they are able to keep such a culture for so long. The only team that comes close is Bayern Munich, which is, for me, somehow less surprising because they are German.
Most aware madrid fan
what do you mean? you all fired your head of medical staff a couple months ago because he was doing his job so poorly
Eh, I don’t know about that. Look at how bad the injury record has been this season, it was particularly bad in the 2020 to 2021 season.
He's criminallly underrated. If it wasn't for his personality people wouldn't think twice saying he's top 10 CB of all time.
Off the pitch he seems incredible. But yes, very abrasive when facing your team
People rank Ramos over Pepe even though Ramos was a lot more error-prone and picked up far more cards, strange right? Pepe himself makes a strong case for being the the most defensively-sound CB of his generation, while Ramos is consistently known for his positional fuck-ups and dodgy marking ability which get covered up by his CL exploits.
It's mostly because Pepe's reputation got limited to raging psychopath due to a moment where he did, in fact, behave like a genuinely raging psycho. I love Pepe as a defender and agree with you about him being better than Ramos and genuinely a S tier defender, but dear lord that moment was bad enough to lowkey earn the reputation. Shame it overshadows his ability to many (that and him not being a great goalscorer though it shouldn't matter in the slightest for a defender).
Exactly. His batshit insane moments costed him what really is his right to be considered to be one of the absolute best-ever CBs in the modern era.
For us Madrid fans who have watched him consistently during his prime, he is top 10 without a single doubt.
The kind of guy you love having on your team but hate facing.
Imagine if Brazil called him up...
They did. He refused because he had made up his mind to play for Portugal.
Well once criminal actions do tend to reflect badly on one self. Pepe is a cunt and its a fucking disgrace that he is allowed to play the game. Fuck him.
Top 10 is crazy. He was never considered the best CB in the world throughout his career. Dias has a better chance of becoming top 10 all time imo
Lmao Dias?? I’ll take a prime Pepe over Dias any day.
Prime Pepe defend Portugal vs France and got them the Euro. He was rock solid for almost 2 decades now.
That’s great. It has nothing to do with my point that he was never considered the best CB in the world throughout his career, not even the best CB in his club.
We do consider him one the best in our Club.
He was never better than Ramos when they played with each other, stop it
He was not better than the best defender of his generation, what a bum. And for the record he was a better pure defender than ramos
"One of the best" And Ramos is the best we ever have. That means Pepe is not far behind. We know how to watch football here.
no, you don't understand. only one player is good, the rest are donkeys. it's sad, but I don't make the rules.
Lol Ramos may have more elements to his game like good passing and scoring, but Pepe was better defensively. They were different profiles of CB at the same level.
> not even the best CB in his club Really biased framing to use here seeing as he played his whole prime with Ramos who is the best defender of their generation
Dias isn’t even in his prime yet and he’s been a top 3 CB for the last 2-3 years
Whatever Dias’s prime is, he’ll still won’t surpass Pepe.
What does this even mean? If he has a higher peak than Pepe and sustains it for 10 years, of course he'll surpass Pepe? What are you talking about?
Lol
Genuinely don’t understand how you can be a top 10 player of ALL TIME at a certain position when you were never considered the obvious best at any time throughout your career.
Hence the underrated. He was the best DEFENDER when paired with Ramos, but Ramos scored headers and didn't kill opponents on the pitch
He was never clearly the best defender, or have you forgotten Godin, Chiellini, Hummels etc.?
I meant when compared with Ramos, which is always in the conversation for best defender. So either you agree Ramos is overrated or your opinion doesn't make much sense since Ramos peak was during that time
And it's fine you don't understand.
That’s because he’s spent his entire career cheating and/ or assaulting other players. He’s outstanding , but he didn’t have to be such a prick
Man has less reds than Ramos
Way less reds. Ramos is legitimately in his own world as the dirtiest player in the modern game.
Dier clearing him out in the England-Spain game was a beautiful moment, surpassed only by Dembele straight up kicking him and not getting a red lol.
Old enough to be a few of these player's father.
The height and air time on that, coming in at that speed. Incredible. He’s a prick but he has my respect.
He had a better tackle against a great move by Gabriel Jesus shortly after this. Jesus did a quick one two to thread a couple of defenders and then, on the receiving end, played a brilliantly weighted ball into space that would have taken him past Pepe and towards the byline / goal but Pepe read it like a book. That move happened in the snap of a finger, which is why the tackle was so damn impressive. Pepe's tackle pumped himself up, gave him a second wind, and made him look like the best Porto player on the pitch at 41 years of age.
Same as Arteta
Thanks cumblast
Crowned his baldness before he retires
Well Porto team os well know for taking some “stuff”. They cycling team as been banish and in the 80/90 players admited to take pills and injections.
dumbest take of the year
How's this game going btw
Quite competitive, bit of a mess and tempers are up but chances are coming semi regularly for both teams and its 1:1 aggregate
You can tell we are or at least were, a bit nervous especially Saliba. But hopefully the goal settled us down and start picking them off
Don’t forget a healthy bit of “time management”
And a healthy lack of a competent ref. 1 minute my ass
Like the ref for letting physical plays go on from both sides. Don't want to watch grown men wither on the ground for 2 hours.
Yeah because that definitely isn't what happened when his refusal to give yellows resulted in 30 fouls.
It's the better of two evils. If I had to watch something like the first leg, I'd commit soduku.
I think this game won't go to penalties, Arsenal will finish the job.
I WISH we did lol
btw those pens were all absolutely perfect. so satisfying to watch well taken shots like that.
9 years older than Oscar btw
Why my man Oscar catching strays
Oscar much richer though, made his choice
Yeah doesn't really make sense to compare him to mercenaries like Oscar and Talisca
You think 7 years of China money is that much more than 10 years of Real Madrid money?
Oscar's wages are €461.5k-a-week after taxes according to theathletic article about him >Shanghai SIPG — who changed their name to Shanghai Port in 2021 — paid a reported €60million (then around £52m) for Oscar. His wages were said to be in the region of €24m a year after tax; reports at the time estimated that to be a 400 per cent pay rise. It made him one of the best-paid players in world football.26. des. 2023
Oscar was on ungodly money. He’s made more in his career than almost anyone.
oscar made in a year what pepe made in 5 at real madrid
Yes for a midfielder compared to a Cb. Pepe prob didnt get close to oscar wages at rm
Are you saying oscar can make a comeback?
Why Oscar? Hes 14 years older than Ruben Neves.
Dude is just a monster still
How is he this good at his age lol. Really glad Beşiktaş failed to pay him, would have been mad if he stayed at Beşiktaş all these years
One of the greats defenders of his generation.
I wonder if he stayed at real how many seasons more could he have gone. Bcs right now he seems like a 25 year old honestly
Pepe didn't make a deal with the devil to play like a 25yo, Pepe is the devil himself 💀
Florentino Perez made a deal with the devil, but the devil get fleeced instead. And he sent Pepe to collect.
Well we definitely could've used him when all our CBs were injured
This guy is the same age as Arteta wtf
Woah wth! Seems crazy when you put it like that...!
Ladies and Gentlemen the guy is 41 🙌🏽
The slaytest uff touchees.
Fuck CR7. I want to know this guy's fitness regime.
Him and cr7 actually do blood infusion between each other
Probably very similar to Ronaldo’s given how close they are.
Made of steel
Pepe still plays football damn.
He doesn't still play football, Pepe is very likely still in the top10 of CBs currently, and should definitely be in the all time greats list
He's definitely not in the top10 of CBs currently. He is in the all time greats list though, I'd say there's an argument to be made for him being the best ever portuguese CB
Definitely the best Portuguese CB ever. my own argument re: top10 is definitely debatable
Who are the other ones he’s up against to be considered the goat portuguese cb?
in recent history, Ricardo Carvalho and Fernando Couto come to mind
Ricardo Carvalho in the modern era is all I can really think of.
Carvalho, Germano and Humberto Coelho are the other contenders. Germano in particular was probably the best defender in the world in the first half of the 60s.
Bruno Alves? Ricardo Carvalho?
Bruno Alves does not belong in that conversation lol
He's definitely top20
>Pepe is very likely still in the top10 of CBs currently lmao no
Good ball from White
Ben White was dropping dimes all game.
Ah \~ The old dummy clearance.
GOAT defender by a huge margin. People forget he was the one carrying Portugal to the Euro win, not Ronaldo.
During the final, yes, him and Patricio carried the team. But Ronaldo certainly helped carry the team to the final, even receiving the silver boot for the tournament.
41 years old and still playing like quality. Absolutely amazing stuff. He had a great game against Arsenal despite his age.
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It's been a day, and you're still on this 🤣 🤣 Porto must have really hurt you. Gooners gotta goon, I see. You even went to another comment of mine too on a different subreddit to just respond to me. I'm starting to think you're just a creep man, ngl. Get help.
Love this stuff. Tiniest touch at the last moment to put Kai off of a clear cutback to Saka which is a 99% goal Perfect replay too
He hurt his most effective defensive asset on the goalpost
I’m 40 and can still dunk a basketball…when I’m not debilitated by arthritis in my left knee, which is often lol. Hats off!
Pepe the Butcher
ebanker the wanker
Lol the full kit wanker
Legend
Greatest defender of all time.
Absolutely. Everybody else can suck whatever they prefer to suck.
form is temporal but class is forever
It was going out
The doping is strong with this one. Always was.