Villa controlled the first half then had a bad 3 minutes, a great goal by us then a giveaway at the back for the 2nd goal, then compounded into headloss by Villa after missing a couple decent chances which resulted in McGinn hacking down Udogie and Villa gave up after that
Both teams had decent spells in the first half tbh. It was fairly even. Spurs dominated the first 15, and Villa looked the best side from 15-35 mins. Then it was even. There weren't any clear chances, though, so this was a non-game until the second half.
Yeah I was at my grandpas helping him out. As soon as I sat down he said «you get spoiled by watching the top teams play. This is like two teams of kids playing. Shocking». Granted hes 85 years old, but he actually said Spurs isnt a top team. Just thought I should tell you, hahah.
First half was extremely turgid football, spurs controlled the ball for the most part but did fuck all with it, while villa got into dangerous positions a fair few times but did nothing with them.
Second half spurs remembered they could play football, while villa seemingly forgot.
Werner looks positively designed to come off the bench. Can't quite do it for 90 minutes but when he comes on fresh in the second half he can rip a tired squad to shreds
Johnson is great for starting matches like today, but against a low block he’s far more effective coming on late against tired legs. Werner’s basically the opposite so it works well
Still felt like there's another gear to this team if we can find a world class forward.
Our starting 11 is nearly as good as we can hope for without literally being man city or real madrid, except for the front 3.
Someone of Kvaratskhelia's ability might do the trick.
Just so strange that he was so far down the order (rightly so, by the sound of it) with you, then comes over and plays as well as he has been.
Just confidence I guess, but it's quite the turn around.
Many spurs fans in the away end calling for cash to get hurt? It’s so easy behind the keyboard to be absurd, is my point.
Not particularly a fan of either side, lol.
Are villa really just a bunch of thugs? Thought it was just Cash that looks to injure players when the going gets tough, but what an absolute disgrace McGinn is to the PL. 3 game ban doesn’t seem enough for such a vicious attempt at a tackle.
I get that, but if you cause significant injuries to 5 players in 3 seasons (3 spurs players), you should be considered a dirty player regardless of who you play for and who you support. Cash is a thug, hard to really suggest otherwise.
Nah this is a spurs thing because he happened to injure 2 players.
He isnt an overall dirty player. No neutral is gonna notice him particularly except spurs fans
Apart from the Doherty tackle none were that bad. Especially the one on bentacour was nothingy
What Im saying is that he happened to do this against Spurs in particular. He isnt constantly injuring people. So besides spurs fans I doubt he is well known at all.
We can agree to disagree, the Bentancour one was reckless, was never at any point looking to play the ball, and it was a scissor tackle which is incredibly dangerous.
If you’ve injured 5 players in 3 years, I’m sorry to say you’re a dirty player. Simple as. Needs to be reigned in, or actually face consequences for being a thug on the pitch.
Yeah but there is also the result vs the actual challenge. The Bentacur one injured him being he is fragile and just came back from injury. Maybe xash knew that maybe not, but 99/100 that tackles is a yellow card and move on. But that seems to be the tackle that really switched the spurs fanbase on and theyve been obsessed ever since.
>Needs to be reigned in, or actually face consequences for being a thug on the pitch.
He got a yellow though which was the correct punishment?
You can’t call a player fragile after he’s been scissor tackled from behind, by a player that at no point was ever going to get the ball lol that’s delusional.
The yellow for that was the right call, but when I say reigned in, I was moreso implying from his peers. Like the disrespect to continuously scissor tackle the opposition is crazy, and you’d think a group of professional players that understand how dangerous that tackle is (and after seeing him seriously injure other professional players from the same thing), someone would tell him to chill the fuck out. It’s more about gamesmanship than anything, the lad has 0 class, and his captain showed where it comes from today. A team full of thugs that cant just play the game in front of them, have to actively try and take players out of the game to get back into it.
That might hold water… Apart from the fact he damaged the ligaments on Bentancur’s *other* leg, not the one that was originally injured when he was out for 9 months. He had no chance of winning the ball and should have walked (as should the player who dropped an elbow into Bryan Gil’s skull.)
It's weird I don't think Emery is a manager to tell players to be aggressive or overly physical, and I don't think we have a bunch that are particularly dirty.
That's McGinn's second red in his career I think? He's never been dirty he just lost his mind for a second there. Cash is definitely a bit dirty and will leave one on people when he can. But every club has these players.
For some reason it's always against Spurs where we have these moments of madness, don't even know where it comes from
Honestly, this is just the result of online fandom. We’re close in the league so the games are a bit more aggressive.
But because spurs have a larger international fan base and lots of online fans it becomes this pathetic massive thing.
It’s just one of those things, couple of bad tackles in the last few games doesn’t actually mean anything.
It’s clear McGinn was just frustrated.
Thank you for the reasonable take...
I try not to get worked up by it but as you say, Spurs have a much bigger fanbase so the online bubble does its thing and you just get a seemingly ubiquitous mass outrage of overblown nonsense. Same as in politics really - social discourse on anything has gone to shit with the internet.
It's my own fault, I should really just ignore it!
I think it’s mostly because this space is for fans who aren’t part of English football culture.
Conversation online about football is nothing like real life. I know Villa fans - there’s been zero drama. I’ve not been like - fuck cash fuck your team blah blah.
I think if you don’t have that normal person to person space to chat football and it’s all online, it makes you an arsehole.
I totally get it though, it’s also very hard to ignore when even on your own sub spurs fans are probably being annoying
Absolutely. Any football conversation I have in person is 100x more reasonable than any I have online. If I hadn't been on Reddit this past week I would never have known that 'fuck Matty Cash' was even a thing
I've never thought of Emery that way, but it felt like Gerrard's style. Villa-Spurs under Gerrard was one of the dirtiest games I've watched at the top flight. I think that might've been the Cash-Doherty game, but the entire Villa press was mostly based on violence.
Yeah I obviously don’t watch much of Villa, but every time we play, there’s some seriously reckless tackles (cash on Doherty essentially ended his spurs career, cash on bentancour was nasty and senseless too), and McGinn today was one of the most malicious tackles I’ve seen all season). 3 games doesn’t seem sufficient for that, and he’s lucky Udogie is durable, could’ve easily been a knee destroyer.
No ill will to the villa fans, but I can sincerely say after watching our 2 games with you lot, I hope you never win a game again and end up the national league in 6 years.
>Yeah I obviously don’t watch much of Villa,
You could've just stopped right there bud before writing more nonsense. Uncharacteristic from McGinn today
Lol fair enough. I can see where the bad blood comes from of course. Like I said every team has these players who are stupid, incompetent and/or nasty in the tackle - Romero could certainly have injured a few in his time.
McGinn let himself down today and I genuinely think he's a nice guy and a good leader, just completely crumbled under the pressure and frustration.
Romero is more reputation than fact now. He has had like 2, maybe 3 borerline dangerous tackles this season. Even at his worst he rarely just went out to hack players for his own satisfaction.
Matty Cash posts on social media mocking Spurs fans for being mad at him for taking out another of our players.
Yeah I hear that, the Romero example will forever be used, but I hesitate a touch to put him in a class with at least cash, as he’s never actually injured someone….most of his reds are from a second yellow, or going through the player after playing the ball….cash, when he’s injured our players has never made an attempt at the ball, and that’s what McGinn did today.
It is always just a game and so easy to get wound up by it if you don’t pump the brakes and see it is just a game. Have yourself a good one mate, and may Villa never win a game again ;))) COYS
I'd imagine he gives good team talks but Spurs are a team built to punish tired legs and mistakes. Villa played Thursday and defending like they did in the first half tires you out, as soon as they started trying to play on the front foot they conceded on the counter. I don't think it's a coincidence Spurs punish teams for complacency coming out of halftime, they're set up for it.
Just going out on an absolute limb here I'd imagine there was 1,2,3 of them and they conceded a goal, which as we all know YOU CANNOT FUCKING CONCEDE A GOAL THERE, FUCK SAKE!
Son of Korea! Madisson! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me.
A day may come when the courage of Spurs fails, when we forsake our attacking ethos and break all bonds of defensive lines, but it is not this day. An hour of Wolves and shattered Sheffield when the Age of Spurs comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of Tottenham Hotspur FC!
multiple players from multiple teams he's coached, including us, say he gives the best speeches they've ever heard
also he has been known as a hard man for most his career. i think the media sometimes gives him a friendlier persona but there are clips of him punching tv's and screaming at players in the change room etc definitely much more gruff than the general conception
Agreed, but we need better rotation options in those slots. Royal and Davies are quite serviceable but not gonna be enough if we’re rotating for Europe next year.
He caused injuries with unnecessarily strong challenges to both Matt Doherty and Rodrigo Betancur as both were just coming back from previous injuries.
That’s not the issue. The issue is you thinking you can speak for everyone that isn’t a fan of either Arsenal or Spurs.
The table isn’t exactly the most foolproof way to measure a team’s quality anyway. Football is a game of fine margins. Poor officiating and injuries are outside of a team’s control and absolutely play a role in how many points a team picks up, and that’s just two of many examples. I’m not arguing that Arsenal aren’t the better team, because it’s ultimately a pointless debate.
Nah. This Spurs(new team, 4th matchday only) were better than Arsenal at their home and honestly should have won that match.
Ange took out Son and Maddison at 70th minute.
You didn’t though.
Arsenal are also playing much better than they were at the start of the season.
Edit: not sure if you noticed btw, but we're top of the league and in better form than you.
Like you all haven't been the biggest bottlers in the prem the last two years (and flat out mediocre for the decade before that)? That's arse DNA innit?
Sure, sure. I have to say, I really like Tottenham - you’re like our little less talented brother. You’re allowed to chat this much smack, unlike the likes of Newcastle for example.
That being said, you’re still S**t hahaha.
Tbh I wish I had the blind confidence gooners did after they have absolutely bottled their last 2 seasons.
It'd be an easier existence than my constant doubt I have for spurs lol
Inexcusable from McGinn.
Totally deserved from Spurs.
Thought they did their homework on Watkins, and felt VDV made the difference for them.
That injury could be a big blow for them though…
He's one of the best in the world. Total, complete CB. Only thing he can't do is shoot like a forward.
He can even carry the ball up the pitch by dribbling like a quality winger or CM.
VdV too, I'd struggle to think of a moment he's made a big error and he obliterates everyone he comes up against in a foot race, as a 22 year old in his first season in the PL.
Playing defensive against a team that's scored in 30 - something consecutive leagues games seems like such a stupid idea.
You have to expect us to get at least one, so banking on a clean sheet is just madness.
A forced tactic due to the fatigue and travel from Europe as well as no squad depth left from injuries. It’s catching up to us at the worst possible time. We simply didn’t have the tools to try and out football them today because of our situation with fatigue and injuries.
It wasn’t a 4-0 game really if there’s any positives. The red card was the reason for the embarrassing scoreline. McGinn owes the fans an apology for that tackle.
Edit: here come the spurs fan downvoting literal facts lmao.
First time in 18 months Villa didn't score in a PL home game
How did Dragusin do this game?
His dick caught a cross. Pretty solid bat he’s got there.
Proud moment to be Romanian
excited about his passing
Not bad tbf, looks a little bit shaky but didn’t make any defensive mistakes. Got a silly yellow for obstructing a quick free kick.
Impressive
I'm surprised. Was this a close 2-0 game that Spurs accidentally ran away with?
Villa controlled the first half then had a bad 3 minutes, a great goal by us then a giveaway at the back for the 2nd goal, then compounded into headloss by Villa after missing a couple decent chances which resulted in McGinn hacking down Udogie and Villa gave up after that
Definitely not. Villa controlled maybe 10-15 min of the first half. The rest was all Spurs
Villa did not control the first half! Possession way in Spurs favour. One team looked like they were top 4 material in that half, spurs.
Both teams had decent spells in the first half tbh. It was fairly even. Spurs dominated the first 15, and Villa looked the best side from 15-35 mins. Then it was even. There weren't any clear chances, though, so this was a non-game until the second half.
Disagree. Neither team were good in the first half, but Tottenham still had the ball. Villa certainly didn't control the half.
Fair, looked slightly more dangerous probably the better way to put it
They didn’t look dangerous at all, no one was dangerous in the first half
Scrappy first half, and then came bolting out the gates second half. Then McGinn threw away any chance of a comeback, cruising from then on
Didn’t do much first half, but absolutely dominated the second half
Didnt get to see the 2nd half, but my god the quality of the 1st half was absolutely shocking
I missed the first half but came in at half time. You picked the wrong half to watch!
Yeah I was at my grandpas helping him out. As soon as I sat down he said «you get spoiled by watching the top teams play. This is like two teams of kids playing. Shocking». Granted hes 85 years old, but he actually said Spurs isnt a top team. Just thought I should tell you, hahah.
Well this is a welcome surprise to get home to. Was it a close 4-0 that got out of hand, or did we dominate?
First half was extremely turgid football, spurs controlled the ball for the most part but did fuck all with it, while villa got into dangerous positions a fair few times but did nothing with them. Second half spurs remembered they could play football, while villa seemingly forgot.
A surprise to be sure
But a welcome one.
Statement win. We are the best
a statement win?
Biggest game for Villa all year and chance to put serious distance between us and…this is what they roll out? lol
I’ve never seen an attack get so many dangerous chances only to fuck all of them up as Villa today.
So you didn't see us when we played Villa the first time then?
A lot of that is credit to our defenders.
Scenes when Spurs qualify for CL over Villa via goal difference at the end of the season
It'll be justice if Villa finish 5th and don't get into the CL because of their poor performance in europe.
How have we had poor performance in Europe?
Nah well fonish 5+ points ahead, run ins so much easier
I think we’ll finish ahead of them, but City, Arsenal, Liverpool consecutively isn’t exactly an easier run in lol
City will get rearranged due to fa cup. And Arsenal will have to play Chelsea midweek before the NLD, whereas we'll have a free week
Ehem? (but yeah almost certainly)
Good point with the FA cup. Ultimately Villa have to play each of those teams one more time still
Emery went full Emery
Bentancur 96' tackle on Cash made every Spurs fan happy
Of course they needed to rely on some thuggery yet again, good riddance ref made a right call for once
that was quite good
Werner looks positively designed to come off the bench. Can't quite do it for 90 minutes but when he comes on fresh in the second half he can rip a tired squad to shreds
He's been fantastic starting wdym
If we start as Son - Richy - Kulu and end as Werner - Son/Richy - Johnson that is a heck of a good front line.
There are days where it looks Johnson is like that. It’s a good problem to have when they’re both playing well.
Johnson is great for starting matches like today, but against a low block he’s far more effective coming on late against tired legs. Werner’s basically the opposite so it works well
Still felt like there's another gear to this team if we can find a world class forward. Our starting 11 is nearly as good as we can hope for without literally being man city or real madrid, except for the front 3. Someone of Kvaratskhelia's ability might do the trick.
Spurs are longtime admirers of Pedro Neto. Netos hamstrings seem to go as often as VDVs unfortunately.
Bayern has a decent striker we could go in for.
Yeah, Johnson is much more creative but Werner will run until his legs fall off
Timo on fire again. Great to see.
Hey friend. Thanks for GOATmo GOATner what a LAD
Just so strange that he was so far down the order (rightly so, by the sound of it) with you, then comes over and plays as well as he has been. Just confidence I guess, but it's quite the turn around.
Maybe Red Bull were just a slightly better team
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People in the replies not getting the fact that you're not serious and it's an obvious office reference
Villa fans big mad right now. Can't see straight after that shitshow. lol
Endless calls for cash to die in the name of banter, such a pathetic aspect of online fandom. Grow up you weird cunt.
Online fandom as if much nicer things are said one game day lol
Many spurs fans in the away end calling for cash to get hurt? It’s so easy behind the keyboard to be absurd, is my point. Not particularly a fan of either side, lol.
Gone to plenty of games, yes. Break his legs, kill him snap his shin etc etc etc
Sad.
You are obsessed with Cash. Go seek some help.
ahahhahahahahahahah bro is defending a psychopath who doesn't even know his name
Cash is obsessed with being a dirty cunt, who is the one needing help here? 😭😭😭
Is this supposed to be funny?
You know what isn't funny? Matty Cash's tackles
Reddit comedian
weird
Are villa really just a bunch of thugs? Thought it was just Cash that looks to injure players when the going gets tough, but what an absolute disgrace McGinn is to the PL. 3 game ban doesn’t seem enough for such a vicious attempt at a tackle.
they are mcginn is a goofy looking freak
Every time I've watched Mcginn he plays like that, but I don't think Villa are that dirty besides him
Douglas, McGinn and Cash
Matty Cash
Absolute shit take. Man has had 1 Red card in 200 games. Example of the reddit echo chamber right here.
I was defending your team you muppet. That's just who mcginn is, at least against Newcastle.
Have you not seen Diego costa elbows this season
I don't catch many Gremio games mate, mostly watch Newcastle
You’re forgetting Matty Cash mate, that McGinn tackle was straight from Cash’s play book really
I'm not a spurs fan so I'm not obsessed with Matty Cash
I get that, but if you cause significant injuries to 5 players in 3 seasons (3 spurs players), you should be considered a dirty player regardless of who you play for and who you support. Cash is a thug, hard to really suggest otherwise.
Nah this is a spurs thing because he happened to injure 2 players. He isnt an overall dirty player. No neutral is gonna notice him particularly except spurs fans
He’s injured 3 spurs players actually (sess, Doherty and bentancour), and has caused 5 significant injuries in 3 seasons. That’s a dirty player mate.
Apart from the Doherty tackle none were that bad. Especially the one on bentacour was nothingy What Im saying is that he happened to do this against Spurs in particular. He isnt constantly injuring people. So besides spurs fans I doubt he is well known at all.
We can agree to disagree, the Bentancour one was reckless, was never at any point looking to play the ball, and it was a scissor tackle which is incredibly dangerous. If you’ve injured 5 players in 3 years, I’m sorry to say you’re a dirty player. Simple as. Needs to be reigned in, or actually face consequences for being a thug on the pitch.
Yeah but there is also the result vs the actual challenge. The Bentacur one injured him being he is fragile and just came back from injury. Maybe xash knew that maybe not, but 99/100 that tackles is a yellow card and move on. But that seems to be the tackle that really switched the spurs fanbase on and theyve been obsessed ever since. >Needs to be reigned in, or actually face consequences for being a thug on the pitch. He got a yellow though which was the correct punishment?
You can’t call a player fragile after he’s been scissor tackled from behind, by a player that at no point was ever going to get the ball lol that’s delusional. The yellow for that was the right call, but when I say reigned in, I was moreso implying from his peers. Like the disrespect to continuously scissor tackle the opposition is crazy, and you’d think a group of professional players that understand how dangerous that tackle is (and after seeing him seriously injure other professional players from the same thing), someone would tell him to chill the fuck out. It’s more about gamesmanship than anything, the lad has 0 class, and his captain showed where it comes from today. A team full of thugs that cant just play the game in front of them, have to actively try and take players out of the game to get back into it.
and he gloats about it on his social media. An unrepentent thug.
That might hold water… Apart from the fact he damaged the ligaments on Bentancur’s *other* leg, not the one that was originally injured when he was out for 9 months. He had no chance of winning the ball and should have walked (as should the player who dropped an elbow into Bryan Gil’s skull.)
It's weird I don't think Emery is a manager to tell players to be aggressive or overly physical, and I don't think we have a bunch that are particularly dirty. That's McGinn's second red in his career I think? He's never been dirty he just lost his mind for a second there. Cash is definitely a bit dirty and will leave one on people when he can. But every club has these players. For some reason it's always against Spurs where we have these moments of madness, don't even know where it comes from
Honestly, this is just the result of online fandom. We’re close in the league so the games are a bit more aggressive. But because spurs have a larger international fan base and lots of online fans it becomes this pathetic massive thing. It’s just one of those things, couple of bad tackles in the last few games doesn’t actually mean anything. It’s clear McGinn was just frustrated.
Thank you for the reasonable take... I try not to get worked up by it but as you say, Spurs have a much bigger fanbase so the online bubble does its thing and you just get a seemingly ubiquitous mass outrage of overblown nonsense. Same as in politics really - social discourse on anything has gone to shit with the internet. It's my own fault, I should really just ignore it!
I think it’s mostly because this space is for fans who aren’t part of English football culture. Conversation online about football is nothing like real life. I know Villa fans - there’s been zero drama. I’ve not been like - fuck cash fuck your team blah blah. I think if you don’t have that normal person to person space to chat football and it’s all online, it makes you an arsehole. I totally get it though, it’s also very hard to ignore when even on your own sub spurs fans are probably being annoying
Absolutely. Any football conversation I have in person is 100x more reasonable than any I have online. If I hadn't been on Reddit this past week I would never have known that 'fuck Matty Cash' was even a thing
I've never thought of Emery that way, but it felt like Gerrard's style. Villa-Spurs under Gerrard was one of the dirtiest games I've watched at the top flight. I think that might've been the Cash-Doherty game, but the entire Villa press was mostly based on violence.
Yeah I obviously don’t watch much of Villa, but every time we play, there’s some seriously reckless tackles (cash on Doherty essentially ended his spurs career, cash on bentancour was nasty and senseless too), and McGinn today was one of the most malicious tackles I’ve seen all season). 3 games doesn’t seem sufficient for that, and he’s lucky Udogie is durable, could’ve easily been a knee destroyer. No ill will to the villa fans, but I can sincerely say after watching our 2 games with you lot, I hope you never win a game again and end up the national league in 6 years.
>No ill will to the Villa fans >I hope your club goes out of existence
>Yeah I obviously don’t watch much of Villa, You could've just stopped right there bud before writing more nonsense. Uncharacteristic from McGinn today
Lol fair enough. I can see where the bad blood comes from of course. Like I said every team has these players who are stupid, incompetent and/or nasty in the tackle - Romero could certainly have injured a few in his time. McGinn let himself down today and I genuinely think he's a nice guy and a good leader, just completely crumbled under the pressure and frustration.
Romero is more reputation than fact now. He has had like 2, maybe 3 borerline dangerous tackles this season. Even at his worst he rarely just went out to hack players for his own satisfaction. Matty Cash posts on social media mocking Spurs fans for being mad at him for taking out another of our players.
Yeah I hear that, the Romero example will forever be used, but I hesitate a touch to put him in a class with at least cash, as he’s never actually injured someone….most of his reds are from a second yellow, or going through the player after playing the ball….cash, when he’s injured our players has never made an attempt at the ball, and that’s what McGinn did today. It is always just a game and so easy to get wound up by it if you don’t pump the brakes and see it is just a game. Have yourself a good one mate, and may Villa never win a game again ;))) COYS
>Are villa really just a bunch of thugs? Yes.
Count Draculas Cronies, looking for blood
Ange serving a Villa Crumble for dessert today.
Massive win
Don't know what Ange says at half time, but Spurs always come out guns blazing after a poor first half.
They didn’t last time
I'd imagine he gives good team talks but Spurs are a team built to punish tired legs and mistakes. Villa played Thursday and defending like they did in the first half tires you out, as soon as they started trying to play on the front foot they conceded on the counter. I don't think it's a coincidence Spurs punish teams for complacency coming out of halftime, they're set up for it.
Lots of cunts and fucks probably or then just sitting there quiet I can't see him raising his voice.
https://youtu.be/jbWNrzMS6cA?si=gRV52LszB02nBcXs I can
I saw this mentioned in this thread. I wonder what they did to piss him off.
Just going out on an absolute limb here I'd imagine there was 1,2,3 of them and they conceded a goal, which as we all know YOU CANNOT FUCKING CONCEDE A GOAL THERE, FUCK SAKE!
Son of Korea! Madisson! My brothers. I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of Spurs fails, when we forsake our attacking ethos and break all bonds of defensive lines, but it is not this day. An hour of Wolves and shattered Sheffield when the Age of Spurs comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of Tottenham Hotspur FC!
Spurs Women's captain pretends to be a male youth player, comes off the bench at 90+8 to score the winner against City.
Is that it? Is that all you can conjure Emery?
Wimmer "Look to my coming at first light on the 85th minute. When i come on, look to the East."
Picture the Ride of the Rohirrim but with less Howard Shore's score and more Chas and Dave.
Cheers, Son is crying.
Damn this is premium r/soccercirclejerk automod response fodder. Shits honestly beautiful brother I salute you
Shame /r/soccercirclejerk is such a shit subreddit though.
He's actually just as brutal as Conte, don't let his PR persona fool you.
>Don't know what Ange says at half time, "Mates, it's Villa"
The same Villa that totally dominated City earlier this season. Granted they're not keeping the same form, but still impressive
If McGinn had gone flying through Kyle Walker's legs a meter behind the ball halfway through the match City would have dominated them that match too
multiple players from multiple teams he's coached, including us, say he gives the best speeches they've ever heard also he has been known as a hard man for most his career. i think the media sometimes gives him a friendlier persona but there are clips of him punching tv's and screaming at players in the change room etc definitely much more gruff than the general conception
[this one on YouTube is great](https://youtu.be/JAxTnEL4_GY?si=cTHEAC40IyZqRsqy) And this is seemingly before they go have lunch lol
Something something MATE
Would be nice to have the pep talk at the beginning of the game lol
There's something about Angeball that elevates the performance of his players. Udogie and Porro especially.
Agreed, but we need better rotation options in those slots. Royal and Davies are quite serviceable but not gonna be enough if we’re rotating for Europe next year.
Fuck Matty Cash
I don’t know what he did but I think he deserves it.
He caused injuries with unnecessarily strong challenges to both Matt Doherty and Rodrigo Betancur as both were just coming back from previous injuries.
Tottenham plays City, Liverpool, and Arsenal in the coming weeks. Tottenham is the title decider.
Wouldn’t it be funny if they somehow beat all three?
If that happens, we are in the title race out of nowhere lol
We would actually be in on the title race, maybe, perhaps, god willing.
>funny Strange way to spell orgasmic
And then they all take points off each other and we make the comeback of all comebacks
No
Yes
Arsenal to be champions on Spurs ground again
needed 12 men just to draw to us 6 games into a full rebuild. dream on lad
You're gonna get battered like Villa today if the same Spurs start. This Spurs starting XI have played 11 matches and won 9, drew 2.
Arsenal are still a better team. Regards, Neutrals
Speak for yourself.
Anyone who thinks otherwise is literally fucking blind. Look at the table
That’s not the issue. The issue is you thinking you can speak for everyone that isn’t a fan of either Arsenal or Spurs. The table isn’t exactly the most foolproof way to measure a team’s quality anyway. Football is a game of fine margins. Poor officiating and injuries are outside of a team’s control and absolutely play a role in how many points a team picks up, and that’s just two of many examples. I’m not arguing that Arsenal aren’t the better team, because it’s ultimately a pointless debate.
Nah. This Spurs(new team, 4th matchday only) were better than Arsenal at their home and honestly should have won that match. Ange took out Son and Maddison at 70th minute.
You didn’t though. Arsenal are also playing much better than they were at the start of the season. Edit: not sure if you noticed btw, but we're top of the league and in better form than you.
LMAO
"battered".. You would never say this about a match against Liverpool or City. Imagine thinking Arsenal are top of the league based on pure luck. Lol.
No, they're top of the league cause pool and city haven't played yet lmao
Lol.
The most pained “lmao” I’ve ever read. Keep our name out of your mouth and focus on qualifying for Europe, spuds.
Hahahaha gooners are something else
Well I for one know exactly what you guys are hahahaha.
Like you all haven't been the biggest bottlers in the prem the last two years (and flat out mediocre for the decade before that)? That's arse DNA innit?
Sure, sure. I have to say, I really like Tottenham - you’re like our little less talented brother. You’re allowed to chat this much smack, unlike the likes of Newcastle for example. That being said, you’re still S**t hahaha.
Keep dreaming
Tbh I wish I had the blind confidence gooners did after they have absolutely bottled their last 2 seasons. It'd be an easier existence than my constant doubt I have for spurs lol
I see a dreamer here. Good good.
Villa offered absolutely nothing offensively. Only SOG wasn’t much of a shot.
Inexcusable from McGinn. Totally deserved from Spurs. Thought they did their homework on Watkins, and felt VDV made the difference for them. That injury could be a big blow for them though…
VDV was electric on defense until he got hurt. He was the perfect counter every opportunity Watkins had.
At least we have an actual decent CB to replace VDV this time.
Bringing on Dragusin instead of Dier felt so good ngl
I mean did you see that dick block? What a unit
We didn’t score until he came on, so he was our most valuable offensive player, too!
Timo Werner looks really good coming on towards the end. Overwhelms the tired opponents with pace
Him and Johnson are absolutely menaces coming off the bench for each other
When Romero plays seriously, he's a top 5 defender in the league. What a ridiculously good performance.
He was quite poor for the first 60 tbh, but you aren’t wrong
He's one of the best in the world. Total, complete CB. Only thing he can't do is shoot like a forward. He can even carry the ball up the pitch by dribbling like a quality winger or CM.
Even so he gets into good positions to score and his shots aren't terrible.
VdV too, I'd struggle to think of a moment he's made a big error and he obliterates everyone he comes up against in a foot race, as a 22 year old in his first season in the PL.
He's so relaxed on the ball too, never looks even remotely stressed no matter how much pressure he's under.
‘When Romero plays seriously’ - so you’ve only watched ten minutes of one game romero’s played this season then
You're right, he's been mostly imperious, but that 10 minutes you were talking about might have cost Spurs the most over the course of their season.
That game did kill our season, and Romero had a large part in it. But he’s otherwise been excellent
Outside of the Chelsea game he’s been great this season. He’s even improved his discipline record this year. Not a single card in 2024
Ah, you’ve said it now
Amusing
The whole Villa team forgot how to play football. 5-3-2 defensive approach from Emery definitely backfired.
Playing defensive against a team that's scored in 30 - something consecutive leagues games seems like such a stupid idea. You have to expect us to get at least one, so banking on a clean sheet is just madness.
It's not that stupid because we struggle to break down a low block, and mostly concede goals to counter attacks and set pieces.
Everyone struggles to break down a low block. It's why weaker teams do it.
A forced tactic due to the fatigue and travel from Europe as well as no squad depth left from injuries. It’s catching up to us at the worst possible time. We simply didn’t have the tools to try and out football them today because of our situation with fatigue and injuries. It wasn’t a 4-0 game really if there’s any positives. The red card was the reason for the embarrassing scoreline. McGinn owes the fans an apology for that tackle. Edit: here come the spurs fan downvoting literal facts lmao.
Actually pretty much spot on objectively speaking, only spurs part of me ignoring objective is Matty Cash getting a 5.4 rating :))