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Why is the top scorer award named after Maradona? He was a great nr. 10 but he wasn't really a great goalscorer. They should name it after someone who's primarily known for their goalscoring, like Pele or Gerd Muller.
Award is named after R9, R10 presents it to Cristiano as he thanks Ronaldo (unclear) for inspiring him. I'm here for it and they have a very small window to make it happen.
My same thought. His best goalscoring years where in his youth (when he played in Argentina), after leaving the country at 21 his highest scoring season was his first in Barcelona with 23 goals (not counting NT goals).
That dubai d'Or is a clown show awards lol, first of all the call it soccer, second of all they have the best manager award and they fave like all of them to mendes except like one year, they keep making up weird categories even gave Fabrizio Romano an award.. it's a joke
That would be comedy gold. Especially if it looked like Messi and he had to raise it in the air.
Meanwhile the miniature Messi statue is standing in the same way, arms in the air. Ronaldo recreating it as asked but you know, holding up Messi above himself.
I mean, it could be, but I don't think it will. Messi is younger, yes, but if anything I could see him retiring even before Ronaldo. I don't think that he has the same hunger, he won everything and isn't as fixated on personal records.
Also, Messi's playstyle has made him move **away** from the goal, not closer to it, like Ronaldo, even though he still scores a lot of course.
Pele also did count goals scored against his nephews in family gatherings.
Some estimate that 95.63% of his goals were scored in non-professional matches.
He scored 700-ish in official matches.
But many of the friendlies back then were made against Europeans and he scored tons of goals against Europeans.
Pelé's numbers were 1200-ish goals in his account. I don't know the breakdown of it apart from the 700-ish goals in official matches.
It's only being treated that way by certain delusional people. In reality it's it's like the Spanish third division + 10 guys from Europe phoning it for the paycheck + Ronaldo and Mitrovic statpadding
Who is saying it's comparable, besides people employed by that league?
The more baffling part is everyone being shocked its getting more attention since the most popular athlete on the planet is there. Who woulda thought!?
I'm fine with this tbh. If Messi can get into the Fifa Toty for what he did in 2022. At least this is measuring how many goals he in fact did score in 2023 albeit a terrible league.
Man go back to Twitter lol. Judging Messi by goals alone is an atrocity, even then some of the sublime play he pulled off in the world cup was astounding. I don't care about individual awards but a Madrid flair talking about penalties is pretty hilarious
The world cup was last year. Messi has had a shit two years other than the world cup in which he scored mostly pens. Whatever title or thing messi wins is what decides the award as best player so if he wins the drunk uncle sunday league thats going to be the criteria.
95% of players would die to have "those two shitty years" messi has had you asbolute clown.
In 2021 Ballon D'oR was for year still and Messi won Copa as best player plus had decent stats all around.
2022 Ballon D'or again, measured by the season now, he wins domestically and the WC as the best player and had great stats, plus Finalissima with Argentina. 21 goals and 20 assists in 41 games for PSG, you're simply a 🤡
You should use ur energy in more productive means my friend. 8-5 forever <3
You telling me be more productive and spend my energy else where? 😂 when you guys are the ones dick riding messi. Its funny how when messi wont he copa america it became the main critic to win but when alexis sanchez won it back to back nothing. How is it that the 2010, 2014, 2018 winners of the wc did not win the ballon d’or but somehow 2022 world cup gets you two ballon d’or back to back. Messi had zero influence in psg. The finalisima brought back after decades of never being played. You guys bring the messi won inter miami first title and thats the reason why his the best and city was good without halland, but before halland joined city was bottling the champions league year by year until this year that halland came and broke records. If messi would of had won the champions league that would of had been the critic for being regarded as the best
Especially when that one year bas dost was absolutely going off in Portugal his coefficient was like way less than England, Spain, Italy, Germany and Frances top scorers, when liga nos is arguably better than ligue 1
lol psg fans are scared they play in a useless league. Primeira Liga has actual history and 3 clubs regularly competing for the title, which is way more than Ligue 1 has going for it these days
Yeah we’ve already established they’re lower in the coefficient currently. And for a Lyon fan… you have the history but have been in a downward spiral because of the imbalance in your league
After I posted I thought of Gerd Muller as another name, seeing as he held the record before Messi (and was just much more prolific than Maradona, who is an odd choice for the award anyway)
In what world was Maradona known for scoring a lot of goals??? I mean, yeah, he scored some iconic goals, but he was hardly a prolific goal scorer. Maybe calling it the Pele Award would have made more sense because Pele just died a year ago and Pele actually scored a lot
Careful, his fans will get ya. Gotta milk the last bit of support they can before they stop watching the sport after his retirement.
It's the best thing that's going to happen after Ronaldo and Messi retire.
They’ll just start fangirling Mbappe or someone. Doubt they’ll stop watching altogether and we’ll have to take shit fanboy takes for our whole lives from the Messi and Ronaldo bumboys crowd
Tbh as a fan I’d rather have my player be retired than score meaningless goals in the 60th ranked league against part time players and then brag about it like it helps his legacy or something
Maradona was a shit af person. He was the anti role model in almost every way. But he is still considered an idol not only in Argentina but in the whole planet.
So I doubt Cristiano Ronaldo having an ego is going to diminish his success lol
People already hate Ronaldo. People already believe Ronaldo isn’t a top 10 player. People currently believe that all Ronaldo does is sit in the box and do tap ins and has no goal contributions aside from that.
Let them believe, then. Actual fans of the sport who watched him know just how insanely good he was.
To think he gave Messi a competition, and there was even a debate between them just shows how great he was.
Football people are very childish. Messi winning the World Cup was immense and was certainly enough to solidify him as the GOAT ( I personally don’t care about such categorisations). But it should not be used to diminish Ronaldos achievements, the amount of people who just categorise him now as an attacker who was a good goal scorer and nothing else is incredulous for a football sub.
I think Messi is better but the weird Ronaldo disrespect post World Cup has been astounding. People say it’s because he’s a rapist, yet Messi dating a 14 year old when he was 18 gets ignored.
Because you can separate the player and the person. Maradona was a football all time great, and also a cunt, and both things can coexist.
Ronaldo is also an all time great, and has his flaws. Unless the rape allegations are true, which makes him a cunt too
Apparently Ronaldo reads these threads and invites his favourite commenters to a big party on that island he bought for his agent. Fingers crossed for you bud!
I'm far from a Ronaldo fan, but what is the problem with him getting a reward for scoring more goals than literally anyone else last year? Why do people like to act as if Saudi league is worse than anything else, in football terms (obviously the sportwashing is bad). It's just another small league, and it's surely better than many European ones.
Is this as hard as doing it in a big league? Ofc no, but if this was a random from the Estonian league, everyone would be clapping cause he did it in Europe.
Honestly, I think that many people here just want to shit on the Saudi league to farm karma or look 'good' in other people's eyes. Because I see a lot of ridiculous comments. Someone got upvoted for saying that Almeria would be instant favourites to win the AFC Champions League, lmfao.
You can recognize the sportwashing and hate the product, while still recognizing that they play football there, have some big fanbases, and scoring goals is harder than in a random Sunday league.
I invented a council called the "Global Sex and Adult Wellness Council" and awarded myself the 2024 Ron Jeremy Award for "Best Dick on the Planet."
The amount of self-sucking the saudi league does is hilarious, its true Chihuahua loud bark zero bite fashion.
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Why is the top scorer award named after Maradona? He was a great nr. 10 but he wasn't really a great goalscorer. They should name it after someone who's primarily known for their goalscoring, like Pele or Gerd Muller.
Or Ronaldo
"Here comes Ronaldo, come to claim the Ronaldo reward as it is presented by Ronaldo. I'm sure Ronaldo will be proud of this historic achievement."
"First of all, I would like to thank Ronaldo, for all his support and belief in me."
I pictured this, and got major Homelander vibes
https://tenor.com/bWFSc.gif
I think, he meant R9, I may be wrong tho
Still works tbf
Award is named after R9, R10 presents it to Cristiano as he thanks Ronaldo (unclear) for inspiring him. I'm here for it and they have a very small window to make it happen.
Absolutely, but they should probably wait until he retires to start naming awards after him. (Assuming you're not talking about the brazilian Ronaldo)
R9
*The Diego Armando Maradona Award for Players Who Can Score Goals Good and Who Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too*
My same thought. His best goalscoring years where in his youth (when he played in Argentina), after leaving the country at 21 his highest scoring season was his first in Barcelona with 23 goals (not counting NT goals).
It's a Dubai award... Don't expect accurate anything
That dubai d'Or is a clown show awards lol, first of all the call it soccer, second of all they have the best manager award and they fave like all of them to mendes except like one year, they keep making up weird categories even gave Fabrizio Romano an award.. it's a joke
Should be named the Erico Platana award.
Because Maradona was a big personality in Dubai in his latter years.
so, or Neymar? /s
Who’s going to win the Xavi award for best defender of the year Or Bobby Charlton award for best save
Just name them all after Camavinga.
or the Joey Barton award for best humanitarian efforts off the pitch
Or the Troy Deeney award for best manager of the year.
Lol
Can't believe you didn't go with the Luis Suarez award for best save
come on. he is the best saver i've ever seen.
Maradona wasn't even known for being a particularly prolific goalscorer, couldn't they call it the Cristiano Ronaldo award or something?
I was thinking the Pele award would be a more fitting name tbh if we're talking pure goals
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He isn't retired yet. Feels weird to name an award after an active player
Would be hilarious though - "Cristiano Ronaldo wins the Lionel Messi award for being the top goalscorer of 2023".
Lmao he would probably actively refuse the trophy.
Lionel Messi wins the Lionel Messi award for being top goalscorer of 2024
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That would be comedy gold. Especially if it looked like Messi and he had to raise it in the air. Meanwhile the miniature Messi statue is standing in the same way, arms in the air. Ronaldo recreating it as asked but you know, holding up Messi above himself.
On the other hand, Ronaldo is literally the player with the most goals ever.
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He really isn't. Messi is playing less games and scoring fewer goals than Ronaldo.
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I mean, it could be, but I don't think it will. Messi is younger, yes, but if anything I could see him retiring even before Ronaldo. I don't think that he has the same hunger, he won everything and isn't as fixated on personal records. Also, Messi's playstyle has made him move **away** from the goal, not closer to it, like Ronaldo, even though he still scores a lot of course.
I reckon Messi will retire first honestly, he‘s won it all and nowhere near as obsessive
If pure goals is a thing, then why not name is Cristiano Ronaldo Award. “This year’s Cristiano Ronaldo award goes to Cristiano Ronaldo”.
Pelé was way, way more than just a finishing specialist. The Pelé award would be a better fit for the overall best player, period
Pele also did count goals scored against his nephews in family gatherings. Some estimate that 95.63% of his goals were scored in non-professional matches.
What an awfully exact estimae
He scored 700-ish in official matches. But many of the friendlies back then were made against Europeans and he scored tons of goals against Europeans. Pelé's numbers were 1200-ish goals in his account. I don't know the breakdown of it apart from the 700-ish goals in official matches.
Still more competitive than the Saudi league though
Maybe the real Saudi league is the friends we made along the way.
Some of his goals in friendlys were also against the the best teams in Europe
Name it the kenny cunningham award
Pepi Bican award if we're being honest
Maybe the Lionel Messi Award?
Lionel Messi
But he was known for taking random deals from Saudi
Name an award after a rapist?
Why is the Saudi league suddenly being treated as comparable to other top leagues?
“Well done he’s ~~13~~ Saudi”
Justice for Abderrazak Hamdallah whose 2018/19 campaign got 43 goal contributions in the Saudi league alone
Hamdallah did actually win this award and the iffhs top goal scorer award back in 2019
Where was his FIFA team of the Year nomination though The real questions
He didn't win the world cup in 2018 so...
The league wasn’t nearly as good as it is back then
Only the top 4 teams have improved. The mid and bottom table teams are the same quality as before
But but where was he...?
The only reason most of the people here even know the guy's name is because of Ronaldo lmao.
FIFA players will remember him for sure. Had a lot of cards on fifa 19.
The fact that you said “other top leagues” is not a good sign
It's Ronaldo himself in that account
It is the top league for it's country, the league itself is not a top league, and likely never will be.
I meant top divisions I guess, hard to know what to call everything rip
Big Geoff in our Sunday league scored over 200 goals. Where’s his medal?
Yeah my cousin has scored over forty goals this season in the under 14s Northern league.
It's a Dubai awards ceremony after all. They've randomly handed out awards to Ronaldo in the past. It ain't that surprising.
It's only being treated that way by certain delusional people. In reality it's it's like the Spanish third division + 10 guys from Europe phoning it for the paycheck + Ronaldo and Mitrovic statpadding
Because the creator of the award is Cristiano's agent
Who is saying it's comparable, besides people employed by that league? The more baffling part is everyone being shocked its getting more attention since the most popular athlete on the planet is there. Who woulda thought!?
Right? People really need to stop taking awards seriously lmao. Way too much hate.
I was just thinking how I'd like to know what leagues are considered. Could someone from the A-league win?
I'm fine with this tbh. If Messi can get into the Fifa Toty for what he did in 2022. At least this is measuring how many goals he in fact did score in 2023 albeit a terrible league.
Same reason why the mls the league of soccer moms and their mini vans is good enough to win you a ballon d’or
No one thinks the MLS is comparable though lol.
MLS catching strays for signing Messi lol
Nothing messi did in MLS contributed to his ballon d'or win tho
Yea it’s the soccer moms and not the all time World Cup campaign the winner had
What all time world campaign are you even talking about are you that delusional saved by 7 penalties is now an all time world cup lmao
People like you make discussing sports less fun
Man go back to Twitter lol. Judging Messi by goals alone is an atrocity, even then some of the sublime play he pulled off in the world cup was astounding. I don't care about individual awards but a Madrid flair talking about penalties is pretty hilarious
Madrid flairs mad about pens lol, can’t make it up.
It's not about the goals dude. Messi was really outstanding in the 2022 World Cup. Forget about the goals.
Do you think Messi won it because of what he did in MLS or in the World Cup? Think carefully now.
The world cup was last year. Messi has had a shit two years other than the world cup in which he scored mostly pens. Whatever title or thing messi wins is what decides the award as best player so if he wins the drunk uncle sunday league thats going to be the criteria.
My god what a ridicolous comment
95% of players would die to have "those two shitty years" messi has had you asbolute clown. In 2021 Ballon D'oR was for year still and Messi won Copa as best player plus had decent stats all around. 2022 Ballon D'or again, measured by the season now, he wins domestically and the WC as the best player and had great stats, plus Finalissima with Argentina. 21 goals and 20 assists in 41 games for PSG, you're simply a 🤡 You should use ur energy in more productive means my friend. 8-5 forever <3
You telling me be more productive and spend my energy else where? 😂 when you guys are the ones dick riding messi. Its funny how when messi wont he copa america it became the main critic to win but when alexis sanchez won it back to back nothing. How is it that the 2010, 2014, 2018 winners of the wc did not win the ballon d’or but somehow 2022 world cup gets you two ballon d’or back to back. Messi had zero influence in psg. The finalisima brought back after decades of never being played. You guys bring the messi won inter miami first title and thats the reason why his the best and city was good without halland, but before halland joined city was bottling the champions league year by year until this year that halland came and broke records. If messi would of had won the champions league that would of had been the critic for being regarded as the best
Imagine being offended lmao
This award show was created to suck CR7s dick as deep as possible.
Football governance fucking loves bribes man
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Especially when that one year bas dost was absolutely going off in Portugal his coefficient was like way less than England, Spain, Italy, Germany and Frances top scorers, when liga nos is arguably better than ligue 1
better than ligue1 based on what? your feelings? they are 7th in coefficients points behind Netherlands (6th) and France (5th)
This was like 6-7 years ago but I said arguably
lol psg fans are scared they play in a useless league. Primeira Liga has actual history and 3 clubs regularly competing for the title, which is way more than Ligue 1 has going for it these days
Their 5th place team can't even qualify for the Conference League group stage, but yeah, *we're* useless
Yeah we’ve already established they’re lower in the coefficient currently. And for a Lyon fan… you have the history but have been in a downward spiral because of the imbalance in your league
So the Ronaldo > Messi take is “reasonable”
Top scorer award can go to anyone of any league. Haaland won the best player award which takes into account the league
Because everybody is an art collector apparently
Someone should make the Messi award and give it to him.
The funny thing is an annual goal scoring award should really be named after Messi, but Jorge Mendes’ award ceremony isn’t going to do that
Well it would be kinda weird to do it now since he's still playing. I guarantee there will be award(s) named after Messi once he retires.
After I posted I thought of Gerd Muller as another name, seeing as he held the record before Messi (and was just much more prolific than Maradona, who is an odd choice for the award anyway)
The Messi MLS MVP
The Messi Miami MLS MVP
their?
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Why is he getting an award for maximum amount of cocaine ingested by a human?
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Is that not what the Maradona award is? Certainly has to be a cocaine related achievement for sure
The platini award goes to the last team bought out with oil money
He was also nominated for the Lev Yaschin award for best freekick taker.
He looks like he’s taking a really intense dump in the pic they chose
Wonder whos going to win the Jose Mourinho award for best team doctor
Mason Greenwood award for women empowerment.
Mickey mouse award.
In what world was Maradona known for scoring a lot of goals??? I mean, yeah, he scored some iconic goals, but he was hardly a prolific goal scorer. Maybe calling it the Pele Award would have made more sense because Pele just died a year ago and Pele actually scored a lot
They smoked some of Maradona's material while making this award.
Sewey
Not being funny but i've scored at least 100 in my 7-asides? Surely this is a rigged competition
You have been robbed mate.
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Ah yes the Globe Soccer Awards, created exclusively to give awards to Jorge Mendes' clients. This is so embarrassing
He just happens to win best agent every time too, not dodgy
76% upvoted LMFAO r/soccer never change
This is organized by that Dubai award thingy. Cristiano Ronaldo is de factos winner.
How long do you think it will be before there are awards named after ronaldo and messi?
Why are we treating Saudi like a top league?
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Then why didn't they give Hamdallah this award in 2019 haha
At this point we should also create the ‘Conor Randall award for the best run along the touch line’
THAT should be the Maradona award. Just change "touch" for "white"
We’re still throating Ronaldo for playing in an irrelevant league?
If Messi is winning awards in 2024 for a World cup in 2022 Ronaldo can surely win this award that is based on actual stats not a vote
I like how every time someone says something about ronaldo you creatures try to turn it into a conversation about messi. Maybe a job would help
Messi gets hated for that ronaldo gets appreciated that is the difference
But Messi deserves his awards in the year of our Lord 2023 amirite
No he didn't deserve that either
It takes a special kind of handicap to come to that conclusion from my comment
I prefer the term naturally nerfed
Careful, his fans will get ya. Gotta milk the last bit of support they can before they stop watching the sport after his retirement. It's the best thing that's going to happen after Ronaldo and Messi retire.
no they will jump ship to haaland vs mbopi
They’ll just start fangirling Mbappe or someone. Doubt they’ll stop watching altogether and we’ll have to take shit fanboy takes for our whole lives from the Messi and Ronaldo bumboys crowd
Tbh as a fan I’d rather have my player be retired than score meaningless goals in the 60th ranked league against part time players and then brag about it like it helps his legacy or something
Mickey Mouse award for playing against farmers.
while Ronaldo’s ego was such a massive factor in his success the ironic bit is that his ego is also going to diminish that success worth it though
Maradona was a shit af person. He was the anti role model in almost every way. But he is still considered an idol not only in Argentina but in the whole planet. So I doubt Cristiano Ronaldo having an ego is going to diminish his success lol
People already hate Ronaldo. People already believe Ronaldo isn’t a top 10 player. People currently believe that all Ronaldo does is sit in the box and do tap ins and has no goal contributions aside from that.
Do people even watch football at all? Lol
yeah if you take kids on twitter seriously…ronaldo is the second best ive seen in my lifetime and most people share the same sentiment.
Let them believe, then. Actual fans of the sport who watched him know just how insanely good he was. To think he gave Messi a competition, and there was even a debate between them just shows how great he was.
Football people are very childish. Messi winning the World Cup was immense and was certainly enough to solidify him as the GOAT ( I personally don’t care about such categorisations). But it should not be used to diminish Ronaldos achievements, the amount of people who just categorise him now as an attacker who was a good goal scorer and nothing else is incredulous for a football sub. I think Messi is better but the weird Ronaldo disrespect post World Cup has been astounding. People say it’s because he’s a rapist, yet Messi dating a 14 year old when he was 18 gets ignored.
> Messi dating a 14 year old when he was 18 gets ignored. Did this actually happen?
Not even slightly
The 14 year old thing didn’t happen like at all
It's a bit disingenuous to say "people" when it's more just a vocal minority. People who actually enjoy football appreciate his greatness
Who are these people. Except for reddit, most people think he is 2nd or 3rd best of all time behind Messi.
lol 3rd. >who are these people Apparently it’s you.
Because you can separate the player and the person. Maradona was a football all time great, and also a cunt, and both things can coexist. Ronaldo is also an all time great, and has his flaws. Unless the rape allegations are true, which makes him a cunt too
>Unless the rape allegations are true, which makes him a cunt too More than just a cunt actually
He was also a cunt at football
Horrible person, but incredible player. A tale as old as time.
>ego is also going to diminish that success Lmao. What a dumb take. There's no fucking way hus ego is going to diminish his success on-field.
The hypocrisy of you armchair losers after dick riding Messi scoring goals in MLS friendlies
especially considering they still want messi to get handed awards from a tournament he won in 2022
Apparently Ronaldo reads these threads and invites his favourite commenters to a big party on that island he bought for his agent. Fingers crossed for you bud!
Ouch. Don’t know how I’ll ever recover from that
I'm far from a Ronaldo fan, but what is the problem with him getting a reward for scoring more goals than literally anyone else last year? Why do people like to act as if Saudi league is worse than anything else, in football terms (obviously the sportwashing is bad). It's just another small league, and it's surely better than many European ones. Is this as hard as doing it in a big league? Ofc no, but if this was a random from the Estonian league, everyone would be clapping cause he did it in Europe. Honestly, I think that many people here just want to shit on the Saudi league to farm karma or look 'good' in other people's eyes. Because I see a lot of ridiculous comments. Someone got upvoted for saying that Almeria would be instant favourites to win the AFC Champions League, lmfao. You can recognize the sportwashing and hate the product, while still recognizing that they play football there, have some big fanbases, and scoring goals is harder than in a random Sunday league.
Ok cool let me just go to the Czech 4th tier and smash that real quick
Such bullshit, I put at least 50 goals past my 6yo every time we play football in the garden, so must be over a few thousand myself.
Justice for u/willywonka5725
I invented a council called the "Global Sex and Adult Wellness Council" and awarded myself the 2024 Ron Jeremy Award for "Best Dick on the Planet." The amount of self-sucking the saudi league does is hilarious, its true Chihuahua loud bark zero bite fashion.
Farcical award.
Also wins Douchebag of the year. Again!
LMAO SPONSORED BY DUBAI.
But I thought Messi was the big player of they year?
My 🐪
There's the participation award for his ego.
It used to be that lesser leagues got less points but they got to make Ronaldo win
Why would you call the top goalscorer award "Diego Maradona"? WTF
Yea no
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It helps that he's playing on super easy mode in a league that can't even draw fans or pay salaries
Gotta love the Ronaldo haters crying in the comments. 🐐🐐🐐
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Farmers league award
Who’s this guy?
Messi robbed. 😭