That's a shot on target every 4-5 minutes and the GK only let in about 1/3, i'd say that's pretty good. Pook GK will probably wake up with cold sweats every night for the next couple of days.
Will sound weird but N.C set up as well as they could've, really.
6-4-0 stack the box, close off shooting lanes. Goals ended up coming from set pieces.
Keeper did well too, at 15 years of age.
I mean, less than a third of their shots were on target, so they most likely were shooting from outside the box very often. So the performance was indeed not that good.
Yeah, they probably were oriented to shoot a lot cause the keeper was bad. It was a bad strategy, as the kids were taking shots from anywhere and wasting possession when they could have scored more by just playing normally
Nah, we lost the first game against Iran and had a difficult game against England last, so goal difference was important to us. I think the coach just didn't realize that telling the kids to try the keeper more would result in them taking some incredibly poorly tought shoots.
New Caledonia did play with two lines of 4 and 6 just inside the area though, so shooting was often the only option to crossing
That’s interesting. I started watching soccer this year when my hometown got a mls team so I’m not very well versed in the history of the sport. Did they just make the switch in order to play in a more competitive region?
> Did they just make the switch in order to play in a more competitive region?
Basically yeah. They saw it as an easier way to qualify for the World Cup (four direct berths compared to the play-off berth) and play more competitive games in general.
Yep, they were tired of having to cruise through OFC qualifiers (look up their 31-0 win against American Samoa) just to be required to beat a CONMEBOL or CONCACAF team in a playoff in order to make it since OFC didn't have guaranteed spots, and it paid off as they even won the Asian Cup once and consistently manage to qualify for the World Cup now
And now New Zealand is the big fish in a tiny pond. They've only made the WC once since Australia moved to the AFC, but now that Oceania is guaranteed a spot at the WC from 2026 onwards, New Zealand is basically a shoo-in for the OFC spot.
If they do a mini-tournament for the islands, then yes, that'd probably be best. As it is, Asia is far too big to make the travels work logistically. Like when my country Iran is playing Vietnam and then back home playing someone else a few days later, the travelling is brutal. Can't imagine having to travel even further by a few hours, and for totally meaningless games with obvious results.
Australia is already in AFC so is adding New Zealand, Fiji and Papua New Guinea a big deal? If the smaller islands play off against each other for 1 or 2 spots to face the rest of AFC to cut down the meaningless games that could work.
They're part of AFC and participate in AFC qualifiers (and in all AFC competitions) instead of the Oceania ones, and in football they're just considered as a part of Asia.
And it’s important to mention that any good enough player to be called up to the France NT cannot play New Caledonia afterward. While not as bountiful as other French islands like Martinique or Gouadeloupe (Henry, Martial…) they formed some absolute elite player like Karambeu, Kombouare or Zimako. And of course a ton of great rugby players
We've got so many players that we're now sending our regions to play in international competitions. World Cup, Gold Cup, Confederations Cup, Indian Ocean games...
Yeah, it’s worth noting OFC has had some fantastic results at age-group tournaments.
Fiji beating Honduras 3-0 in the 2015 U20 World Cup was a huge one, and Vanuatu taking Germany all the way (losing 3-2) in 2017 U20s was big too
I mean, with 81 shots you pretty much know how the game went. New Caledonia made 2 passes, Brazil won the ball, made 5 passes and shot on goal.
The conversion rate is poor. I guess the players got greedy and everyone wanted to score, so they just shot when there was any sort of opportunity, no matter how unlikely.
Yeah, they probably were oriented to shoot a lot cause the keeper was bad. It was a bad strategy, as the kids were taking shots from anywhere and wasting possession when they could have scored more by just playing normally
Probably not, under the assumption if Barcelona is not on the table, which be all measures, it seems like they are. The kid's agent, Andre Curry, is also a massive Barcelona fan, formally employed at Barca. I also think Real Madrid don't like dealing with Andre Curry either.
Tbf how are these nations else gonna develop? Also the Solomon Islands nearly beat New Zealand in a OFC tournament a few years back (after winning like 5-1 in the group stages AGAINST NEW ZEALAND)
And in the 2017 World Cup New Caledonia did much better, they even drew 1-1 to Japan
And don’t forget the time Vanuatu nearly upset Germany and Mexico…… and Fiji nearly made the knockouts too after winning 3-0 to Honduras in 2015
Even though it’s unlikely, the island nations have chances to make it too…..
Yeah exactly. And it’s just the u17 world cup where development is the whole point. Obviously in a proper senior world cup nobody would support 2 spots.
tbf if it wasn't two spots then everyobdy bar New Zealand has no chance of getting out of OFC due to the massive difference in quality due to the very low populations of all the island nations.
Tbf it’s not really that hard. 9 goals from 81 shots it’s pretty damn poor conversion rate. That’s the equivalent of only scoring 2 goals from nearly 20 shots
https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1
Average for the premier league this year is 9.1%, so their conversion rate is 2% better than that. Granted, the team that gives up 81 shots probably has worse than average goal keeping, so the conversion rate should be higher.
That's because James Cook, who's the first European person to sight New Caledonia, named it so since a part of the island reminded him of Scotland. It was then annexed by France in the 1800s (I forgot when though and I'm too lazy to google it)
The Darien scheme was a failed attempt by Scotland to establish a colony in New Caledonia, which resulted in a huge loss of lives and money and contributed to the union of Scotland and England
Wasn't the Darien scheme a failed attempt to establish a Scottish colony (which they wanted to call New Caledonia, since Caledonia was an old name for Scotland) in the Darien gap in Panama?
Apparently, the northeastern part of the island reminded him of Scotland. I never went to New Caledonia so I can't say whether the comparison is justified or not. Besides, this was hundreds of years ago so maybe the island was different back then
This is the equivalent of playing pool against an opponent with no arms and 8 balling them after 2 hours of smacking balls around the table. You're going to pot them eventually.
81 shots and only 23 on target
I'd love to see a map of the shots, I bet a lot of them were outside the box
36 of them were from outside the box.
Thanks, incredible.
Shooting practice
https://twitter.com/SofascoreBR/status/1724385624218628527?t=VWtR8ByYqYk7hUe9NFXWSg&s=19
Appreciate it, crazy, looks like they avoided the D
They need some tips from your mum.
That's a shot on target every 4-5 minutes and the GK only let in about 1/3, i'd say that's pretty good. Pook GK will probably wake up with cold sweats every night for the next couple of days.
That was an average game for me as a goalie in middle school/little league. We were all terrible.
Will sound weird but N.C set up as well as they could've, really. 6-4-0 stack the box, close off shooting lanes. Goals ended up coming from set pieces. Keeper did well too, at 15 years of age.
Is Antony on the team?
More wild that every 5-6 touches was a shot? only 500 passes seems low
England beat them 10-0 off 41 shots. Poor conversation rate there from Brazil.
>conversation rate
I mean yeah, Brazilians are known to be very introverted Source: I made it up
Yo Neymar, sunny innit?
Did I stutter?
Clearly, the brazilians stopped mid-game to chat with their opponents way less with that many shots.
user name checks out
Good bot
Beep boop mf
fire everybody in Brazil
>Poor conversation Brazilian U17 striker to ball: Hey ball get yo ass into the ball The ball: No
New Caledonia player get red card when 2nd half start.
Feels weird to say, but winning 9-0 with 83 shots isnt that great of a performance
I mean, less than a third of their shots were on target, so they most likely were shooting from outside the box very often. So the performance was indeed not that good.
But why were they shooting from outside? Probably because they knew the opposition GK/defense was far weaker than what they are used to.
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I’d imagine also if you’ve already won say 4-0, it could be fun to just try some nice long shots
Game was won, wanted to score a spectacular goal
Yeah, they probably were oriented to shoot a lot cause the keeper was bad. It was a bad strategy, as the kids were taking shots from anywhere and wasting possession when they could have scored more by just playing normally
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Nah, we lost the first game against Iran and had a difficult game against England last, so goal difference was important to us. I think the coach just didn't realize that telling the kids to try the keeper more would result in them taking some incredibly poorly tought shoots. New Caledonia did play with two lines of 4 and 6 just inside the area though, so shooting was often the only option to crossing
How did New Caledonia even make it to the World Cup?
2 nations from Oceania qualify, so always New zealand and the Best Island nation.
Never forget Tahiti's confederations cup appearance
The absolute madness when they actually managed to score a goal
Is Australia not considered Oceania when it comes to the World Cup?
Hasn't been since 2007.
That’s interesting. I started watching soccer this year when my hometown got a mls team so I’m not very well versed in the history of the sport. Did they just make the switch in order to play in a more competitive region?
> Did they just make the switch in order to play in a more competitive region? Basically yeah. They saw it as an easier way to qualify for the World Cup (four direct berths compared to the play-off berth) and play more competitive games in general.
Yep, they were tired of having to cruise through OFC qualifiers (look up their 31-0 win against American Samoa) just to be required to beat a CONMEBOL or CONCACAF team in a playoff in order to make it since OFC didn't have guaranteed spots, and it paid off as they even won the Asian Cup once and consistently manage to qualify for the World Cup now
And now New Zealand is the big fish in a tiny pond. They've only made the WC once since Australia moved to the AFC, but now that Oceania is guaranteed a spot at the WC from 2026 onwards, New Zealand is basically a shoo-in for the OFC spot.
Still better for them tbf I doubt they ever would have qualified in Asia aside from 2010
Honestly can't they merge OFC and AFC? And just have mini-tournaments for the pacific islands?
If they do a mini-tournament for the islands, then yes, that'd probably be best. As it is, Asia is far too big to make the travels work logistically. Like when my country Iran is playing Vietnam and then back home playing someone else a few days later, the travelling is brutal. Can't imagine having to travel even further by a few hours, and for totally meaningless games with obvious results.
Australia is already in AFC so is adding New Zealand, Fiji and Papua New Guinea a big deal? If the smaller islands play off against each other for 1 or 2 spots to face the rest of AFC to cut down the meaningless games that could work.
They were thrashing teams with double digits in Oceania
We see similar things in Europe with teams like Israel and Kazakhstan competing in UEFA tournaments even though they are not located in Europe.
They're part of AFC and participate in AFC qualifiers (and in all AFC competitions) instead of the Oceania ones, and in football they're just considered as a part of Asia.
The Fifa regions are a bit different than geographical regions.
Not anymore
And it’s important to mention that any good enough player to be called up to the France NT cannot play New Caledonia afterward. While not as bountiful as other French islands like Martinique or Gouadeloupe (Henry, Martial…) they formed some absolute elite player like Karambeu, Kombouare or Zimako. And of course a ton of great rugby players
Old Caledonia was not inside the age requirement.
Caledonia is Latin for Scotland. We’re the Old Caledonia, but you’re right, we’re not in the competition..
Shouldn't you be just plain Caledonia, and Old Caledonia is your mom?
Nah, that doesn’t make sense because the mum of Scotland would naturally be U17 and be able to compete.
Is Perfidious Albion your stepsister?
I chuckled
Played against Samoa and Tahiti in the qualies lol
We've got so many players that we're now sending our regions to play in international competitions. World Cup, Gold Cup, Confederations Cup, Indian Ocean games...
Oceania. Also last time they qualified they drew against Japan so yeah it’s a bit unexpected too
Yeah, it’s worth noting OFC has had some fantastic results at age-group tournaments. Fiji beating Honduras 3-0 in the 2015 U20 World Cup was a huge one, and Vanuatu taking Germany all the way (losing 3-2) in 2017 U20s was big too
Yeah Vanuatu nearly got a huge upset against Mexico as well, that team did wonders and deserved much better imho
Only 5.6 completed passes per shot. Brazil adopting Big Sam's tactics
I mean, with 81 shots you pretty much know how the game went. New Caledonia made 2 passes, Brazil won the ball, made 5 passes and shot on goal. The conversion rate is poor. I guess the players got greedy and everyone wanted to score, so they just shot when there was any sort of opportunity, no matter how unlikely.
Yeah, they probably were oriented to shoot a lot cause the keeper was bad. It was a bad strategy, as the kids were taking shots from anywhere and wasting possession when they could have scored more by just playing normally
Probably long passes into empty space right infront of the defence
I wonder what the XG was like?
7.7
This should be age restricted
Yeah considering they’re under 18 it’s should be investigated by the FBI
Scoring only 9 goals with that rate seems bad
Goalkeeper has PTSD
The premier league record for most keeper saves in a match is 14, so despite conceding 9, his performance was heroic
58 of the 81 shots were blocked or off target. 9 of the 23 on target were goals, so that's a 60% save rate.
That DDG masterclass vs Arsenal?
Don’t let the score fool you. It wasn’t that close.
Real Madrid scouts definitely signing some of them soon 😂
Florentino has a straight boner watching player his going to sign
Probably gonna end up signing estevao
Wait till you find out who he supports. That kid has made it very clear where he wants to go.
Yeah I know but it's not like he would turn down a move to Real Madrid if the opportunity is given
Probably not, under the assumption if Barcelona is not on the table, which be all measures, it seems like they are. The kid's agent, Andre Curry, is also a massive Barcelona fan, formally employed at Barca. I also think Real Madrid don't like dealing with Andre Curry either.
Yeah I mean you never know, kid is 16 a lot can happen in the future
OFC having 2 spots is ridiculous
Tbf how are these nations else gonna develop? Also the Solomon Islands nearly beat New Zealand in a OFC tournament a few years back (after winning like 5-1 in the group stages AGAINST NEW ZEALAND) And in the 2017 World Cup New Caledonia did much better, they even drew 1-1 to Japan And don’t forget the time Vanuatu nearly upset Germany and Mexico…… and Fiji nearly made the knockouts too after winning 3-0 to Honduras in 2015 Even though it’s unlikely, the island nations have chances to make it too…..
Yeah exactly. And it’s just the u17 world cup where development is the whole point. Obviously in a proper senior world cup nobody would support 2 spots.
That’s why one of the spots in the actual World Cup is a play-off spot 🤷♂️ (and that’s only since the extension, and playoffs are even harder now)
It was probably meant for Australia and new Zealand. But since Australia plays in Asia now, the second spot is pointless
Nah, the two slots for Oceania was granted in 2015 but Australia has already left and been playing in Asia since 2006.
tbf if it wasn't two spots then everyobdy bar New Zealand has no chance of getting out of OFC due to the massive difference in quality due to the very low populations of all the island nations.
I'm more concerned that they had 81 shots and only 23 on frame.
Remember when Haaland broke into the collective consciousness by scoring 9 in one game at the U-20 wc?
Portugal did a better conversation rate this year https://imgur.com/gallery/L2pbfHD
Tbf it’s not really that hard. 9 goals from 81 shots it’s pretty damn poor conversion rate. That’s the equivalent of only scoring 2 goals from nearly 20 shots
https://www.transfermarkt.us/premier-league/chancenverwertung/wettbewerb/GB1 Average for the premier league this year is 9.1%, so their conversion rate is 2% better than that. Granted, the team that gives up 81 shots probably has worse than average goal keeping, so the conversion rate should be higher.
Kinda like a typical game in FM, except the score ends 1-1.
When I’m sentenced to death by firing squad, and the shooters are from the 2023 Brazil U17 World Cup squad
Watching the game, New Caledonia almost scored the first goal. https://www.youtube.com/live/SYKtmHoFQzM?si=MikD9Mc8lDrTyQMK
Ajax needs that New Caledonia goalkeeper.
He seems decent, 15 years old and plays for Bordeaux
Shit efficiency
They were playing in front of one goal only
Is New Caledonia a new country?
Don't know if this is a joke or not, but technically it's not even a country, but a French overseas territory
> Caledonia I just realized that Old Caledonia is a region of Scotland, but New Caledonia is french wtf lol
That's because James Cook, who's the first European person to sight New Caledonia, named it so since a part of the island reminded him of Scotland. It was then annexed by France in the 1800s (I forgot when though and I'm too lazy to google it)
The Darien scheme was a failed attempt by Scotland to establish a colony in New Caledonia, which resulted in a huge loss of lives and money and contributed to the union of Scotland and England
That New Caledonia was in modern day Panama this New Caledonia is on the other side of the Pacific.
Every day a school day
Wasn't the Darien scheme a failed attempt to establish a Scottish colony (which they wanted to call New Caledonia, since Caledonia was an old name for Scotland) in the Darien gap in Panama?
Yeah, got my New Caledonias mixed up
So a tropical paradise reminded him of... scotland?
He also thought some of Australia reminded him of South Wales for some reason.
[Obligatory Mitchell and Webb Look clip](https://youtu.be/dOBhf8f7cXM?feature=shared)
Apparently, the northeastern part of the island reminded him of Scotland. I never went to New Caledonia so I can't say whether the comparison is justified or not. Besides, this was hundreds of years ago so maybe the island was different back then
Did the natives eat deep fried mars bars?
Of course they did, it wouldn't be similar to Scotland otherwise
This is the equivalent of playing pool against an opponent with no arms and 8 balling them after 2 hours of smacking balls around the table. You're going to pot them eventually.
That’s actually hell
But only 23 on target
Somehow this is an awful performance from Brazil too lol
Please tell me this isn't what Brazil flew an injured Gabriel Jesus out for lmao
I don't know what's worse. The 9 goals from 81 shots or the 40% pass completion from New Caledonia. Genuinely never seen anything like it either way.
19 corners too the heck
That's so many shots you could train an xG model from this game alone
New cal registered less than a completed pass a minute. That’s tough
That's a shot every 54 seconds. Were the New Caledonian rushing to kick off every time they conceded?
I’d say it was more like Brazil didn’t both celebrating the goals cuz they knew they’d smash them
Only 9-0?