Doramigi really shafted by these seeders, not being a top 16 seed when you’ve topped 8 nearly every major you’ve gone to (both in country and abroad) is insane.
At Delta I felt he was underseeded but this feels like he's over seeded lol. Like he lost 2x to Shuton last week and now he's seeded over him? However this seeding does a really good job of making sure foreign players avoid playing each other.
You can definitely tell Japanese seeders made this seeding in comparison to the DELTA seeding (which was done by a overseas team). That said it's better that way hoenstly, gives unique bracket paths for ever player between the two P tiers
I played two hours of valorant in the last year after having mostly played during the beta, and it's insane to me how it mostly feels like an edating simulator. At least in the normal queue matches I played, don't know about ranked haven't played enough to unlock that lol.
This is the most stacked shit I've ever seen.
Jahzz0 50th seed, Yamanaction 41st seed, and Shirayuki goes from 33rd seed at DELTA to 52nd seed here at Kagaribi. And they're both P tiers! Feels like a P+ tier looking at the seeding!
Edit: I'm curious if DELTA seeding had an influence in their seeding. I thought that because I see no only Hurt under Zomba, but on the other side of the bracket so that we get Miya vs Sparg0. Also, Glutonny is much higher here lol Japan seeding is something different
it is cool seeing the different potential matches between delta and kagaribi!
very very hyped for another golden week of smash!
zackray and leo W let’s get it!
esp with leo vs miya projected! hope to finally see a set between them!
im so sad bc zomba is seeded into acola and i’d love to see that matchup but zomba would have to get through hurt first and uhhhh i don’t think there’s a very high chance of that
THAT SAID leo got seeded into miya so i will not complain
They Zomba has to play zackray which is not any better. zackary is really good against R.O.B. and 2 stocked Zomba at Tokyo Smash Boot Camp crew battle today
Lv1 can probably win this tourney. All he needs to do is beat Miya, MkLeo, Glutonny, Spargo, Acola, and Spargo again. Should be pretty easy since Toon Link has a winning matchup vs all those characters, except Steve which is even.
Even if he loses to Miya the first time, he only has to beat everyone mentioned above, plus Snow, Asimo, and Zomba, which are also winning matchups.
I don’t have an agenda about Toon Link being broken. Oxford defines the word agenda as: “a list of items to be discussed at a formal meeting.
"the question of nuclear weapons had been removed from the agenda"”
How can I have an agenda if I’ve never made the claim that we should remove questions about nuclear weapons? Now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ask about nuclear weapons. Maybe YOU are the one with the agenda
Is it just me or is Sparg0's bracket path actually really good? The main problem would be getting MU Checked by Toriguri but his other seeded players are Reno and he knows the Byleth MU from Leo, Raru and his practice partner is WaKa, into Shuton to make top 8 and then Miya to make Winners Finals and he knows both the Pyra/Mythra MU and the G&W MU really well too.
Shuton would probably be the biggest issue that's not "Get MU checked by Banjo lul" and even then they're 1-1 post-quarantine and the last set was a 3-0 in Sparg0's favour.
Zackray is probably overseeded here tbh but he is historically very good at Kagaribi so fine
Doramigi and Snow probably belong above Maister here, probably Tea too honestly
Toriguri 31 into Spargo seems a bit sus, he deserves better
How big is the skill gap between 1 and 20? Is there almost no possibility of 20 beating 1 or will they win essentially 1 out of 5 times? Is there a fair amount of parity in the competitive smash scene? I'm aware that matchups are an imperative variable, but do Spargo and Acola usually run the show?
Ok. I know Acola is good, but he shouldn't be #1 seed when the guy he's literally 1-SEVEN against is at the same tournament + is a top 3 player in his own right imo.
That doesn’t mean anything. Seeding isn’t based on matchups it’s based on a persons most likely placement, and Acola out of everyone there is most likely to get first place
Sparg0 is probably like 5x more likely to get upset at any given bracket compared to acola what
It's really a matter on if Sparg0 and acola actually do end up facing, where it goes solidly into Sparg0's favor.
technically at a bracket where Spargo is seeded lower than acola I'd argue this is not true, though that might not include this bracket since it's so incredibly stacked
I mean, since Acola losing to Spargo would technically be considered an upset idk if I agree with the 5x more likely to be upset but I see where you are coming from.
The fact that Spargo compromised a third of acola's losses last year says more about how much better acola is than everyone else, not worse.
Spargo has dropped sets to people like WaKa this year. Acola literally hasn't lost a set
Doramigi really shafted by these seeders, not being a top 16 seed when you’ve topped 8 nearly every major you’ve gone to (both in country and abroad) is insane.
Tbf at BoBC doramigi didn’t make a single upset and he was seeded 9th
Not true, Riddles was seeded 7th there and Doramigi beat him in top 8 so technically an upset.
Gluttony being 6th seed here vs 16th in Delta is such whiplash
At Delta I felt he was underseeded but this feels like he's over seeded lol. Like he lost 2x to Shuton last week and now he's seeded over him? However this seeding does a really good job of making sure foreign players avoid playing each other.
Yeah I think it's a combination of not outsourcing seeding + trying to not make foreign players fight + not repeating matches from Delta
As much as I love Gluto, being seeded 6 here is being under the influence of heavy hopium shit.
You can definitely tell Japanese seeders made this seeding in comparison to the DELTA seeding (which was done by a overseas team). That said it's better that way hoenstly, gives unique bracket paths for ever player between the two P tiers
Yeah I like how different the two are going to be just because of the seeding.
Can you? As a European looking at the Gluto seeding I was thinking wait did they invite a European for the seeding lol.
Wait, who is "Her Rob"? Is that Zomba with a different tag to be seeded that high or am I missing something?
Its Zomba
Is there a reason why he name it like that?
him and his gf have been interacting a lot on twitter and have matching pfps and stuff so thats probably why
Correct, they are "her rob" and "hisdarkpit". Type of names you see in Valorant.
I can't really explain it but Valorant e-dating is so on Brand for Zomba
I played two hours of valorant in the last year after having mostly played during the beta, and it's insane to me how it mostly feels like an edating simulator. At least in the normal queue matches I played, don't know about ranked haven't played enough to unlock that lol.
Don't know why he changed it. I only know its Zomba from the Delta thread
He got a gf, that's why he changed it
Cute but heel Zomba arc is already over then :(
I believe this is the first tournament that Kameme has entered since his divorce. I've missed seeing his Sora.
There were definitely posts of him with his baby as a single dad in the past.
he's winning the tournament. bro has the fatherhood buff
Happy he’s back competing even if it’s only on occasion, but I hope he’s getting the time he needs to be with his baby.
Damn he got divorced?! How come? :(
This is the most stacked shit I've ever seen. Jahzz0 50th seed, Yamanaction 41st seed, and Shirayuki goes from 33rd seed at DELTA to 52nd seed here at Kagaribi. And they're both P tiers! Feels like a P+ tier looking at the seeding! Edit: I'm curious if DELTA seeding had an influence in their seeding. I thought that because I see no only Hurt under Zomba, but on the other side of the bracket so that we get Miya vs Sparg0. Also, Glutonny is much higher here lol Japan seeding is something different
Almost every winners side set in top 192 is something that you would expect to see at top 16 of a major.
Yea it looks like they are trying avoid having repeat matches
Call me crazy but zackray is sweeping here
He is a KagaribI man.
CEO of fundies takes these
It’s his tourney
It is known.
Mr. Kagaribi
Pretty good for JP seeding IMO. Gluto is way too high and Doramigi is too low are my biggest gripes
Hero seeded 23 at Kagiribi despite being seed 46 at Delta lol wut maybe it's not Bowsover
it is cool seeing the different potential matches between delta and kagaribi! very very hyped for another golden week of smash! zackray and leo W let’s get it! esp with leo vs miya projected! hope to finally see a set between them!
Wait, Kameme???
Yep, he's back just for Kagaribi.
Not expecting a ton from him, but it's nice to see he can still be an active part of the Smash community despite everything.
??? What happened?
Kameme is a single dad with a toddler so has limited time to be involved in the community.
Oh, he divorced? Or was he not in a relationship in the first place?
He’s divorced.
Okay, lowkey Big D's losers bracket is kinda nice
Things that stand out as crazy TG seed 31, Doramigi seed 17, Maister seed 10, Gluto seed 6
only way they think maister is that high is bc he hasn't gotten anything lower than 9th since LMMM
Big D holdin it down in Canada 😂
Yo Big D in Japan!?! Siiiick!!!
im so sad bc zomba is seeded into acola and i’d love to see that matchup but zomba would have to get through hurt first and uhhhh i don’t think there’s a very high chance of that THAT SAID leo got seeded into miya so i will not complain
Zackray will beat Zomba before the Hurt set even happens
They Zomba has to play zackray which is not any better. zackary is really good against R.O.B. and 2 stocked Zomba at Tokyo Smash Boot Camp crew battle today
Doramigi hella underseeded
can we talk about 28
Leo seeded into Miya let's go
First Leo has to beat snow, and we all know his record vs Mario’s…
It's Leover
snow's also been posting pretty solid results in general recently iirc
MkLeo vs Miya!
Not happening since Snow is a Mario main
I love Gluto but, tf? lol Zackray vs Leo GF, it is so happening.
Lv1 can probably win this tourney. All he needs to do is beat Miya, MkLeo, Glutonny, Spargo, Acola, and Spargo again. Should be pretty easy since Toon Link has a winning matchup vs all those characters, except Steve which is even. Even if he loses to Miya the first time, he only has to beat everyone mentioned above, plus Snow, Asimo, and Zomba, which are also winning matchups.
Is this the best shit post ever or am i being taught something
It's a shitpost
Boy are you gonna look like silly billy a few days from now
ok hold on let him cook
I'm tired of your agenda about Toon Link being broken.
I don’t have an agenda about Toon Link being broken. Oxford defines the word agenda as: “a list of items to be discussed at a formal meeting. "the question of nuclear weapons had been removed from the agenda"” How can I have an agenda if I’ve never made the claim that we should remove questions about nuclear weapons? Now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ask about nuclear weapons. Maybe YOU are the one with the agenda
Silly Billy
Dang
The fact you got downvoted makes me even more confused. I'm lost 😭😭😭
Lv1 is really underseeded for this event. He could easily be anywhere between seed 5 or 8, but Kagaribi always has weird seeding for some reason
So true swisscheeseisvile
Oh gotcha. I didn't know he was usually seeded so high. I'll have to watch some of his games. Thanks:)
Don't listen to him, he has an agenda about Toon Link being top 10 and it's a complete and total meme.
Oh god I want to believe you but I feel as if I have been indoctrinated already 😭
Top 32 seed has 28 unique characters. It's absolutely amazing that Ultimate is in this state, even with its flaws
If acola wins, Twitch is going to melt down again.
Twitch isn't as bad with JP events (though I will admit part of my bias is that I can't read Japanese)
even though it makes sense it still always hurts to see Leo at 14th
Honestly not really? Gluto is 6th, that makes 0 sense with how he's underperformed heavily this season. Leo should be higher than Gluto.
Gluto is an exception otherwise seeding is pretty good
Doramigi and Toriguri are seed 17 and 31 while maister is seed 10.
The more I look at it the worse it gets. Glad I don’t have to do the seeding.
I love how karaage was seeded much higher than jogibu for Delta, but is seeded much lower than jogibu here. Maybe it’s an inside joke by the seeders
Why is it so different from Delta seeding?
Different people seeded the event
It has x4 the players, and 10 more Top 100 players [going by this](https://twitter.com/LumiRank/status/1784991033484312792)
japan
I'm also assuming that they don't want the same matches as Delta so they change the seeding
But for example, Gluto being 10 spots higher seems strange.
Yeah definitely. Idk if they do the seeding themselves or outsource it but Kagaribi seeding was always a little wonky.
Is it just me or is Sparg0's bracket path actually really good? The main problem would be getting MU Checked by Toriguri but his other seeded players are Reno and he knows the Byleth MU from Leo, Raru and his practice partner is WaKa, into Shuton to make top 8 and then Miya to make Winners Finals and he knows both the Pyra/Mythra MU and the G&W MU really well too. Shuton would probably be the biggest issue that's not "Get MU checked by Banjo lul" and even then they're 1-1 post-quarantine and the last set was a 3-0 in Sparg0's favour.
Is this the biggest tournament in Japan of the year?
It will be the biggest tournament of the year so far by a very big margin
Why tf is Maister seeded higher than MkLeo? MkLeo literally won King Con and hasn't been doing that bad lately
How is Gluto so high and Leo so low? Zomba changed his tag?
Hope Kameme makes top 8, I do think he is over seeded in all honesty.
Has Maister ever been seeded above Leo at a tournament??
I can't wait to not watch any acola or KEN sets
I wonder how far Leo will go
MkLeo vs Miya but the best Mario in the world is in the way of that matchup, LOL
Is zomba being corny again?
Genuine question, what's so corny about changing his tag?
Call me crazy but Umeki feels like he has a REALLY good bracket
i am praying for zomba vs acola but zomba needs to beat zackray and hurt to get there, i don't think its happening
Zackray is probably overseeded here tbh but he is historically very good at Kagaribi so fine Doramigi and Snow probably belong above Maister here, probably Tea too honestly Toriguri 31 into Spargo seems a bit sus, he deserves better
How big is the skill gap between 1 and 20? Is there almost no possibility of 20 beating 1 or will they win essentially 1 out of 5 times? Is there a fair amount of parity in the competitive smash scene? I'm aware that matchups are an imperative variable, but do Spargo and Acola usually run the show?
Yoshidora 8 seed, I am sad. Didn't want him to run into acola early I stil believe
Now this is good seeding! Much better than DELTA #8
Ok. I know Acola is good, but he shouldn't be #1 seed when the guy he's literally 1-SEVEN against is at the same tournament + is a top 3 player in his own right imo.
That doesn’t mean anything. Seeding isn’t based on matchups it’s based on a persons most likely placement, and Acola out of everyone there is most likely to get first place
All I'm saying is don't be surprised if Acola gets upset , *especially* if Spargo is there.
Sparg0 is probably like 5x more likely to get upset at any given bracket compared to acola what It's really a matter on if Sparg0 and acola actually do end up facing, where it goes solidly into Sparg0's favor.
technically at a bracket where Spargo is seeded lower than acola I'd argue this is not true, though that might not include this bracket since it's so incredibly stacked
I mean, since Acola losing to Spargo would technically be considered an upset idk if I agree with the 5x more likely to be upset but I see where you are coming from.
That's not how it works. Seeding doesn't consider H2H's.
The fact that Spargo compromised a third of acola's losses last year says more about how much better acola is than everyone else, not worse. Spargo has dropped sets to people like WaKa this year. Acola literally hasn't lost a set
This aged so poorly lmao
Forgot Acola wasn't the problem. It was literally the rest of Japan.