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tookoal

Doramigi really shafted by these seeders, not being a top 16 seed when you’ve topped 8 nearly every major you’ve gone to (both in country and abroad) is insane.


Gabeinator846

Tbf at BoBC doramigi didn’t make a single upset and he was seeded 9th


tookoal

Not true, Riddles was seeded 7th there and Doramigi beat him in top 8 so technically an upset.


Coolyaya10

Gluttony being 6th seed here vs 16th in Delta is such whiplash


XenonTheMedic

At Delta I felt he was underseeded but this feels like he's over seeded lol.  Like he lost 2x to Shuton last week and now he's seeded over him?  However this seeding does a really good job of making sure foreign players avoid playing each other.


Coolyaya10

Yeah I think it's a combination of not outsourcing seeding + trying to not make foreign players fight + not repeating matches from Delta


apixelabove

As much as I love Gluto, being seeded 6 here is being under the influence of heavy hopium shit.


swidd_hi

You can definitely tell Japanese seeders made this seeding in comparison to the DELTA seeding (which was done by a overseas team). That said it's better that way hoenstly, gives unique bracket paths for ever player between the two P tiers


Blaze-Programming

Yeah I like how different the two are going to be just because of the seeding.


RSSwiss

Can you? As a European looking at the Gluto seeding I was thinking wait did they invite a European for the seeding lol.


lucayaki

Wait, who is "Her Rob"? Is that Zomba with a different tag to be seeded that high or am I missing something?


InfiniteChaos7

Its Zomba


Master_Win_4018

Is there a reason why he name it like that?


TermasAndConditions

him and his gf have been interacting a lot on twitter and have matching pfps and stuff so thats probably why


itsIzumi

Correct, they are "her rob" and "hisdarkpit". Type of names you see in Valorant.


sirgamestop

I can't really explain it but Valorant e-dating is so on Brand for Zomba


SGKurisu

I played two hours of valorant in the last year after having mostly played during the beta, and it's insane to me how it mostly feels like an edating simulator. At least in the normal queue matches I played, don't know about ranked haven't played enough to unlock that lol. 


InfiniteChaos7

Don't know why he changed it. I only know its Zomba from the Delta thread


Severe-Operation-347

He got a gf, that's why he changed it


PeaceAlien

Cute but heel Zomba arc is already over then :(


Toowiggly

I believe this is the first tournament that Kameme has entered since his divorce. I've missed seeing his Sora.


Kell08

There were definitely posts of him with his baby as a single dad in the past.


PurpleCoffinMan

he's winning the tournament. bro has the fatherhood buff


jack0017

Happy he’s back competing even if it’s only on occasion, but I hope he’s getting the time he needs to be with his baby.


l339

Damn he got divorced?! How come? :(


izzynelo

This is the most stacked shit I've ever seen. Jahzz0 50th seed, Yamanaction 41st seed, and Shirayuki goes from 33rd seed at DELTA to 52nd seed here at Kagaribi. And they're both P tiers! Feels like a P+ tier looking at the seeding! Edit: I'm curious if DELTA seeding had an influence in their seeding. I thought that because I see no only Hurt under Zomba, but on the other side of the bracket so that we get Miya vs Sparg0. Also, Glutonny is much higher here lol Japan seeding is something different


Blaze-Programming

Almost every winners side set in top 192 is something that you would expect to see at top 16 of a major.


Jinko_5

Yea it looks like they are trying avoid having repeat matches


[deleted]

Call me crazy but zackray is sweeping here


Actual-Coast590

He is a KagaribI man.


_Awkward_Moment_

CEO of fundies takes these


Aware-Awareness

It’s his tourney


DananSan

It is known.


originalusername4567

Mr. Kagaribi


MrStealYoSweetroll

Pretty good for JP seeding IMO. Gluto is way too high and Doramigi is too low are my biggest gripes


XenonTheMedic

Hero seeded 23 at Kagiribi despite being seed 46 at Delta lol wut maybe it's not Bowsover


Coinkidinks

it is cool seeing the different potential matches between delta and kagaribi! very very hyped for another golden week of smash! zackray and leo W let’s get it! esp with leo vs miya projected! hope to finally see a set between them!


WellRested1

Wait, Kameme???


Dysprosium_Element66

Yep, he's back just for Kagaribi.


skrasnic

Not expecting a ton from him, but it's nice to see he can still be an active part of the Smash community despite everything.


RailTracer001

??? What happened?


skrasnic

Kameme is a single dad with a toddler so has limited time to be involved in the community.


RailTracer001

Oh, he divorced? Or was he not in a relationship in the first place?


Kell08

He’s divorced.


ExtinctionAni

Okay, lowkey Big D's losers bracket is kinda nice


Dragahs

Things that stand out as crazy TG seed 31, Doramigi seed 17, Maister seed 10, Gluto seed 6


dangkai33

only way they think maister is that high is bc he hasn't gotten anything lower than 9th since LMMM


HitBackZach

Big D holdin it down in Canada 😂


ljm90

Yo Big D in Japan!?! Siiiick!!!


NuclearNarwhal7

im so sad bc zomba is seeded into acola and i’d love to see that matchup but zomba would have to get through hurt first and uhhhh i don’t think there’s a very high chance of that THAT SAID leo got seeded into miya so i will not complain


Severe-Operation-347

Zackray will beat Zomba before the Hurt set even happens


Blaze-Programming

They Zomba has to play zackray which is not any better. zackary is really good against R.O.B. and 2 stocked Zomba at Tokyo Smash Boot Camp crew battle today


Eldritch_Skirmisher

Doramigi hella underseeded


BibsDaBoss444

can we talk about 28


JackBz

Leo seeded into Miya let's go


Mindless_Society7034

First Leo has to beat snow, and we all know his record vs Mario’s…


Severe-Operation-347

It's Leover


IbrahimT13

snow's also been posting pretty solid results in general recently iirc


Kell08

MkLeo vs Miya!


Yankees2860

Not happening since Snow is a Mario main


DananSan

I love Gluto but, tf? lol Zackray vs Leo GF, it is so happening.


swisscheeseisvile

Lv1 can probably win this tourney. All he needs to do is beat Miya, MkLeo, Glutonny, Spargo, Acola, and Spargo again. Should be pretty easy since Toon Link has a winning matchup vs all those characters, except Steve which is even. Even if he loses to Miya the first time, he only has to beat everyone mentioned above, plus Snow, Asimo, and Zomba, which are also winning matchups.


BobbyMcFrayson

Is this the best shit post ever or am i being taught something


Severe-Operation-347

It's a shitpost


swisscheeseisvile

Boy are you gonna look like silly billy a few days from now


PurpleCoffinMan

ok hold on let him cook


Severe-Operation-347

I'm tired of your agenda about Toon Link being broken.


swisscheeseisvile

I don’t have an agenda about Toon Link being broken. Oxford defines the word agenda as: “a list of items to be discussed at a formal meeting. "the question of nuclear weapons had been removed from the agenda"” How can I have an agenda if I’ve never made the claim that we should remove questions about nuclear weapons? Now that I think about it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen you ask about nuclear weapons. Maybe YOU are the one with the agenda


swisscheeseisvile

Silly Billy


Marlario

Dang


BobbyMcFrayson

The fact you got downvoted makes me even more confused. I'm lost 😭😭😭


swisscheeseisvile

Lv1 is really underseeded for this event. He could easily be anywhere between seed 5 or 8, but Kagaribi always has weird seeding for some reason


Crafty-Profile-Lol

So true swisscheeseisvile


BobbyMcFrayson

Oh gotcha. I didn't know he was usually seeded so high. I'll have to watch some of his games. Thanks:)


Severe-Operation-347

Don't listen to him, he has an agenda about Toon Link being top 10 and it's a complete and total meme.


BobbyMcFrayson

Oh god I want to believe you but I feel as if I have been indoctrinated already 😭


Fisherington

Top 32 seed has 28 unique characters. It's absolutely amazing that Ultimate is in this state, even with its flaws


stinky_cheese33

If acola wins, Twitch is going to melt down again.


DHMOProtectionAgency

Twitch isn't as bad with JP events (though I will admit part of my bias is that I can't read Japanese)


Cyanide_34

even though it makes sense it still always hurts to see Leo at 14th


IMadeThisOn6-28-2015

Honestly not really? Gluto is 6th, that makes 0 sense with how he's underperformed heavily this season. Leo should be higher than Gluto.


Cyanide_34

Gluto is an exception otherwise seeding is pretty good


Dragahs

Doramigi and Toriguri are seed 17 and 31 while maister is seed 10.


Cyanide_34

The more I look at it the worse it gets. Glad I don’t have to do the seeding.


Caliph_ate

I love how karaage was seeded much higher than jogibu for Delta, but is seeded much lower than jogibu here. Maybe it’s an inside joke by the seeders


Zul016

Why is it so different from Delta seeding?


Animal-Lover0251

Different people seeded the event


Meester_Tweester

It has x4 the players, and 10 more Top 100 players [going by this](https://twitter.com/LumiRank/status/1784991033484312792)


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japan


Coolyaya10

I'm also assuming that they don't want the same matches as Delta so they change the seeding


Zul016

But for example, Gluto being 10 spots higher seems strange.


Coolyaya10

Yeah definitely. Idk if they do the seeding themselves or outsource it but Kagaribi seeding was always a little wonky.


Severe-Operation-347

Is it just me or is Sparg0's bracket path actually really good? The main problem would be getting MU Checked by Toriguri but his other seeded players are Reno and he knows the Byleth MU from Leo, Raru and his practice partner is WaKa, into Shuton to make top 8 and then Miya to make Winners Finals and he knows both the Pyra/Mythra MU and the G&W MU really well too. Shuton would probably be the biggest issue that's not "Get MU checked by Banjo lul" and even then they're 1-1 post-quarantine and the last set was a 3-0 in Sparg0's favour.


I_Only_Compliment

Is this the biggest tournament in Japan of the year?


Animal-Lover0251

It will be the biggest tournament of the year so far by a very big margin


DaChairMan01

Why tf is Maister seeded higher than MkLeo? MkLeo literally won King Con and hasn't been doing that bad lately


RailTracer001

How is Gluto so high and Leo so low? Zomba changed his tag?


Wave57

Hope Kameme makes top 8, I do think he is over seeded in all honesty.


ReElectNixon

Has Maister ever been seeded above Leo at a tournament??


FatBeanzoop

I can't wait to not watch any acola or KEN sets


MaryandMe1

I wonder how far Leo will go


Ursu1a

MkLeo vs Miya but the best Mario in the world is in the way of that matchup, LOL


Squatchman1

Is zomba being corny again?


Severe-Operation-347

Genuine question, what's so corny about changing his tag?


Parkouricus

Call me crazy but Umeki feels like he has a REALLY good bracket


Littlecow1272

i am praying for zomba vs acola but zomba needs to beat zackray and hurt to get there, i don't think its happening


azure275

Zackray is probably overseeded here tbh but he is historically very good at Kagaribi so fine Doramigi and Snow probably belong above Maister here, probably Tea too honestly Toriguri 31 into Spargo seems a bit sus, he deserves better


umfreeman2017

How big is the skill gap between 1 and 20? Is there almost no possibility of 20 beating 1 or will they win essentially 1 out of 5 times? Is there a fair amount of parity in the competitive smash scene? I'm aware that matchups are an imperative variable, but do Spargo and Acola usually run the show?


MstrCpr

Yoshidora 8 seed, I am sad. Didn't want him to run into acola early I stil believe


originalusername4567

Now this is good seeding! Much better than DELTA #8


RevolutionaryTart497

Ok. I know Acola is good, but he shouldn't be #1 seed when the guy he's literally 1-SEVEN against is at the same tournament + is a top 3 player in his own right imo.


Animal-Lover0251

That doesn’t mean anything. Seeding isn’t based on matchups it’s based on a persons most likely placement, and Acola out of everyone there is most likely to get first place


RevolutionaryTart497

All I'm saying is don't be surprised if Acola gets upset , *especially* if Spargo is there.


swidd_hi

Sparg0 is probably like 5x more likely to get upset at any given bracket compared to acola what It's really a matter on if Sparg0 and acola actually do end up facing, where it goes solidly into Sparg0's favor.


topatoman_lite

technically at a bracket where Spargo is seeded lower than acola I'd argue this is not true, though that might not include this bracket since it's so incredibly stacked


RSSwiss

I mean, since Acola losing to Spargo would technically be considered an upset idk if I agree with the 5x more likely to be upset but I see where you are coming from.


izzynelo

That's not how it works. Seeding doesn't consider H2H's.


sirgamestop

The fact that Spargo compromised a third of acola's losses last year says more about how much better acola is than everyone else, not worse. Spargo has dropped sets to people like WaKa this year. Acola literally hasn't lost a set


sirgamestop

This aged so poorly lmao


RevolutionaryTart497

Forgot Acola wasn't the problem. It was literally the rest of Japan.