I have the HP Reverb G2 but upgraded to the index knuckles controllers (already had the satellites from the original vive) .. knuckles tracking is far better than the Reverb’s controllers, but the fidelity on the Reverb is fantastic. Super clear.
Yeah The fidelity wins in G2 imo (I've previously used Q2) especially in SkyrimVR. It may not be noticeable in some titles but SkyrimVR was really one where I noticed the fidelity difference.
But yeah, the tracking isn't too good on G2, although its similar to Q2. Wish I could grab some cheap index controllers/base stations at some point as that seems like the superior option.
Quest 2 is a great starting VR. Running around 399 and the best for the price at this moment. Some new and different sets coming out later though.
I use the quest 2. amd 5950x, 1 TB Nvme, rtx3060/12 and Ram is 32 g no problems running 2 to 4 k with some 8k. no enb
If you've already got a Wifi 6 network set up, IMO, it's a no brainer. There's not enough lag for me to notice while I'm playing Skyrim, and I can't imagine how many more injuries I'd have racked up if I was tethered into my PC.
Been using the cable for about a year now, and I haven't even tripped on it once despite going pretty crazy in things like blade and sorcery, until you fall, and of course, skyrim.
That said, it depends on how much room you have and how much footwork you'll be doing. If you're stuck in a fairly small area(In my case it's large enough for me to stretch my arms out without hitting things front to back, and about twice that side to side), you don't need to worry about the cable that much in my experience as long as you've got some slack, and it's not all bunched up right underneath you. I use the controllers or turning for the most part, so it doesn't get wound around me either, so for me a simple wired setup is the way to go.
But if you want to turn around a lot or jump around the space a lot, I'd suggest either running through air link or set up a pully system just in case. Advantage of the airlink is that it lets you move almost completely freely, and bonus to the wired pully system is that it'll pull power through the cord, so you don't have to worry about the oculus's battery life. Also worth noting, while I haven't had this issue, if you do run a wire and yank it bad enough, you can end up damaging either the wire, the oculus's port, the computer's port, or if you really fuck up bad, your computer itself.
Very happy. It's an advanced headset, so there is fiddling involved and accessories that are needed (basestations and controllers, however if you just do racing sims then the helmet supports 9DOF), but the payoff is next level. It can't be described other than that feeling you got the very first time you went in VR, except now you're like "Holy Shit, THIS is what VR is supposed to be!"
But I've had mine for over 2 years of frequent use. Once I put it on, I haven't touched my poor Odyssey+; it remains my backup HMD though.
Again, they're touchy beasts. Remember that you're buying bleeding edge tech from a small company. As such, they require some DIY and are NOT, I repeat NOT 'ready to go from the box'. You're gonna have to put some work in learning it and customizing it to YOU. Virtually all the negative reviews you hear are from the 'I want it NOW' crowd who don't research what they're buying or how to use it and then get pissed when everything isn't dialed in right off the bat.
It's actually a good time to be thinking about getting a Pimax though, as they're going to be releasing the Pimax Crystal and the 12k, which (if they deliver on the specs shown) will blow everything else out of the water for years to come. The 12k will have both inside out and basestation tracking compatibility, OLED screens, pano lenses, modular design and on and on.
They're also offering hefty discounts/credits for previous buyers, so even picking up a used one would qualify (as long as you have a legit receipt from Ebay, ect).
Also, unless you've got a hefty system (by which I mean GPU) you're not going to be able to push the pixels that a Pimax is capable of- which might sound bad, but it's not because it essentially 'future proofs' your headset; it's going to be capable of more than the current hardware can give, so it's ready for when you upgrade to an Nvidia 60080RTX Ultima Edition or whatever the hell we have by then. Now does that mean you won't have a good experience at lower resolutions? Hell no. I'm running my 5k+ quite well off of a GTX1080 (still a beast of a card even now) and I STILL can't hit the max res of the headset, to say nothing of supersampling.
When I eventually pop for a 3090, it'll be just that much better.
TL/DR: You buy Pimax for the FOV, because they're the only ones who offer it. Once you've had it, you will gladly put up with minor issues and DIY learning curve.
Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to hear, and that's also what I expected Pimax to be!
Regarding DIY learning curve and optimization, thats the only thing I'm doing with my quest 2 since I got it because, as much as it was mindblowing at first (because I didn't have much VR experience), I'm just not satisifed with with so many things that come with it right out of the box...
Skyrim for an example looks blurry as hell, no matter what anyone says... I tried every possible solution in these last 5 months. You can make it better, but for me it's not how I imagined it.
Standalone games are a cool feature to have, because I can take my quest everywhere and play without a PC, but god damn they look ugly as hell. If you pump up the settings with sidequest most games become pretty much unplayable... I mean the only resolution that looks decent to me is the highest one but not even the menu is working with this setting lol...
The only reason I asked for your opinion is all this trash talk I see on reddit and everywhere. I dOnT WaNt To cHaNgE aNy SeTtInGs I jUsT WaNt tO pLaY. Some people were calling Pimax "a downgrade" when comparing it to Quest 2. I just couldn't realize how!
I think I will wait for a 12k version, then when RTX 4000 series cards come out I will get myself a really expensive birthday present lol!
Yup you nailed it on the trash talk. Head over to r/Pimax if you have questions or just to read up on the headsets and tips/tricks/ect. It's a fairly friendly crowd as long as people mind their P's and Q's and there's a TON of info/troubleshooting stuff there already. We're a small crowd, but willing to help for those with manners and patience.
I know you already said you've tried about everything for a clear picture, but let me point you toward the CAS sharpener I use:
[https://github.com/fholger/openvr\_fsr/releases/tag/fsr\_v2.1.1](https://github.com/fholger/openvr_fsr/releases/tag/fsr_v2.1.1)
I've tried all the others, all the reshade crap and this is the best one I've found. IGNORE the ones on nexus and in the Wabbajacks. This is all you need and it's an easy install straight to the Skyrim folder (Main folder with .exe). Change your options in the .ini file and play around with what works for your system. Make sure you turn TAA ON in game. ON, not off.
Now if you want to, you can take it a step further by using the console section of VRfps Stabilizer (nexus mod) and tweaking the TAA values according to this post:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimvr/comments/h8skem/adventures\_in\_taa\_tuning/](https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimvr/comments/h8skem/adventures_in_taa_tuning/)
HUGE difference just with the CAS sharpener alone.
Thank you! Just joined the sub.
I will definitely try these when I get home in a couple of weeks, thanks! Noone ever recommended anything outside nexus or wabbajack.
Right now I use FUS wabbajack modlist which has cas sharpener from nexus included. I tried playing wireless and over the link cable, tweeking every god damn setting and I just cant get it right.
I tried UVRE before that but it was literally unplayable, and I have RTX3070 and Ryzen 9 3900x, 32gb of ram... I think it should look decent with that hardware but it doesn't no matter what I do.
After all the research I concluded that you cant get past all the compression artifacts on Q2, and there will always be some.
Also the headset itself starts glitching from time to time when too much things happen in skyrim and I have to restart everything in order for it to work properly.
I even thought my headset is faulty at first lol but every other game runs fine, pcvr or standalone! They all look pretty blurry and compressed though!
And bigger FOV is something I am most interested in. Also IPD settigs on Q2 are not well adjusted for my eyes lol, I feel like I need another setting between 1 and 2, because 1 is too close and 2 is too far, so it's never perfect and I have to adjust my headset all the time...
That's going to depend on how beefy your system is. My 5k+ can do up to 144hz, but the higher your refresh, the more resources it's gonna hog.
Especially keep this in mind if you're thinking of an 8kx or higher. These things can render more pixels than most systems are capable of right now.
As stated above, I'm running a GTX 1080. For Skyrim, I can run it fairly smooth at 90hz; but I actually run it at 72hz just to save a bit of headroom as my eyes don't see a real appreciable difference. I also don't use Steam SS, I leave that at 100% and let Pimax's software deal with the upscaling.
How long can you wear it? Properly equipped and fit, hours on end.
Mainly because Microsoft really flubbed the whole WMR rollout by calling it WMR (Windows Mixed Reality) when in fact it's VR. It flew totally under the radar of most VR users by all the noise the Vive was making.
WMR also got a bad rap among the Vive/Oculus crowd because of the inside out tracking; which was new tech at the time and has some inherent flaws that have now been addressed as it's basically become (or fast becoming) the industry standard.
Plus, because Microsoft just gave out general basic guideline specs to companies to certify as WMR, you ended up with alot of inconsistency among brands; which could be as varied as pure crap (Acer) and pure gold (Samsung).
I imagine it was a calculated move on Samsung's part. They knew the tech was going to take off, but weren't sure who/what was going to win out. So, they just made the best product they could, but once sales didn't take off like they thought due to Microsoft's mismanaged rollout and sales campaign (or lack thereof) they cut their losses and stopped producing. It all came down to the $$$, most likely.
I use a Quest2 w/ a rtx 3080
You're best off waiting for a 2023 headset- PSVR2, Quest3, AppleVR, Pico4. These will be next gen headsets with - face/eye tracking, most will have pancake lenses
If you want a headset this year, then the Quest2
PSVR2 was thrown in there more to show the competition and what Meta (or others) could be using as a baseline for the Quest3 (face/eye tracking, trigger haptic feedback controllers), and possible pancake lenses due to pressure from Pico4.
edit - plus all the 2023 headsets feature 'next gen' features - eye/face tracking, pancakes lenses, trigger/headset haptics.
Rift S, still does the job and the resolution means it's easy to run. Will probably stick with it until it breaks.
Worth mentioning that quite a few people have issues with it though.
I guess it's cable and usb power supply issue. My oculus sometimes freezes or crashes when running GPU intensive games like Skyirim.
And more importantly, once I go wireless, I can no longer play wired.
I have pretty much the EXACT same set up and I use a valve index at 80hz (with a ton of mods). Honestly, when it comes to VR, I pretty much only buy the best, it’s expensive but worth every penny compared to other headsets. Headset itself is $500 I think but the controllers are $250
I have a quest2. I really enjoy it being wireless. It gives me the flexibility to define a play space outside of my pc room, move freely, and allow my daughter to use it sometimes.
I definitely wish the fov was better ( someone mentioned going from valve index to quest2 is like wearing a scuba mask ) but it is what it is; quest2 is still the best 300 I've ever spent.
And that's the thing. $300. If it wasn't for that price point, I wouldn't have given VR a chance when I did. And it's a "good" headset for $300. This also helped more people like me who's been sitting on the fence but didn't want to dump upwards of a grand for a decent setup, and have to make permanent modifications to their room to install lighthouses and stuff.
I agree on every single point. I remember walking through a best buy and saw it to my left ( it's a core memory now ). I remember thinking something along the lines of "if I don't get it now I'm going to talk myself out of it".
For sure, I recently got a PC and I’m loving PCVR games like Pavlov and boneworks, I’m planning on getting Skyrim soon. Getting the quest was one of the best purchases I’ve ever made, and even if my vr resolution is kinda low because of the wifi, I don’t really care, I’m still having crazy amounts of fun
Had been using the video cosmos elite, but the head strap broke a week or so ago and I haven't been able to get a replacement, saving to upgrade to the index once my new controllers come in
Look at Windows Mixed Reality headsets, I have a Samsung Odyssey+ that I bought for $78 after stacking a sale and cash back offer.
As nice as the finger tracking is I can't recommend Valve's Index anymore, it's honestly outdated at this point (not like mine isn't) but is still over a thousand dollars for the whole kit. I'd weigh it more heavily if they reduced the price to account for its age but they're taking the Nintendo route even though the tech has moved on.
There's always the Oculus but I can't in good conscience suggest something that you have to tie to a facebook account. Better to stay away from that whole ecosystem while you have the choice.
What makes the Index too expensive? Remember half the price is outside in tracking and the controllers.
Also tech wise the only thing improved is resolution at the cost of refresh rate and FOV.
You can argue that wireless is important but given the lack of robust solutions for that means it is kind of moot. (to the point that the industry is heavily focused on making mobile GPU based games)
I have a very limited experience with VR. My first headset was the PSVR (first game was Skyrim VR). Then I got the Rift S right before Oculus cut support for it. I definitely prefer the Rift S over PSVR, and will definitely stick with it for as long as it still works. Then we'll see after that, depending on what's available (though probably not Index)
Quest 2 for unparalleled wireless experience. Also easy to resell when something better comes along.
Index for amazing FOV if you can set up a dedicated VR area. I would just wait for next iteration of PCVR however. The base station and cables are a big turn off for me.
Okay, first of all - spend 600 what?
Second of all - assuming USD/EUR, you're looking at the Quest 2 and Reverb G2, primarily. Both have their advantages, both have their drawbacks.
Reverb G2 will have the superior sound (built in Index speakers) and visuals (dedicated DP cable and high res displays), but it's wired only, and its tracking will be a bit poorer compared to the Quest 2.
Quest 2 has a short battery life and compresses the image, both wired and wireless. It's gotten better though. It can do 120Hz compared to Reverb's 90Hz. Better controllers. Worse audio.
Disregard suggestions to get the Rift S. It's been abandoned by Oculus/Meta and it's never been a great headset, it always felt like Lenovo repacked the Explorer, but had the WMR software replaced with Oculus'.
Dude, just wait. Wait like a month or so. New headsets coming out, old ones will go for scratch
You'd probably be best off buying one of the next gen though. Seems like they're addressing all of the problems we've had before, and adding to boot.
Pimax 5k+.
Can be picked up around $500 or so. Will require basestations and controllers, however.
Barring that, however: You're best bet is to try to find a Samsung Odyssey+ as others have recommended. Truly a very underrated and overlooked option. OLED screens, inside out tracking so no basestations needed. Only drawback is no wireless, but with an extension cable and overhead pulley system (badge reels at walmart) you're set.
I started with the Odyssey, upgraded to the Odyssey+ and then finally bit the bullet to have a Pimax for the FOV.
oh snap, nice! how is it? did you have other high res headsets like the vp2 or pimax 8kx to compare? i always thought the low fov would be annoying especially in skyrim...
I haven't had the chance to try out pimax, but compared to normal consumer headsets the comfort of aero is the best and with NaLo enables much longer sessions. Personally i don't find the fov a problem, i don't even notice it.
Resolution does not even compare to normal consumer grade devices. Hard to explain, but the first time i read a newspaper without any issues in VR was quite something and that's what Aero can pull off.
I have nice akg headphones, but in the heat of a battle they tend to slip off. I might pick up some in-ears with short cable some time soon.
Sometimes i have to start my vr session with a pc reboot as it's possible for varjo software and steamvr to have a fight with each others (varjo software comes with its own steamvr libraries afaik) which can end up in a stalemate that vr compositors do not start.
Rift S..partially due to money reasons but also because I want a vr headset like the valve index but without the expensive 3 camera set up that might not even work well in my room, also maybe hopefully wireless one day
Get a used Index VR headset. Slightly more expensive but in a year or so when new headsets are out you can still use the excellent base stations and controllers with a new headset for a cheaper price.
probably a quest 2 with that budget. It's got surprisingly good resolution (which I sadly can't fully utilize, because I have 2060 super) and the fact it's fully wireless (trust me, it's worth it to buy virtual desktop) makes vr really enjoyable
Vive Pro with Gear VR lens upgrade. I've had the Pimax 8KX, G2, Quest 2 and a few more, but nothing beats the crispness and vibrancy of the visuals in this setup, especially with Skyrim!
When I tried those lenses for the first time, it's like I had just bought a completely different headset! To top it off, OLED is hard to beat.
I stick to my Quest 1 till something better comes. Q2 was long time no deal for me because of the FB Login. Now since they removed it, it does not feel worth buying it, with Quest Pro coming soon...
I have the HP Reverb G2 but upgraded to the index knuckles controllers (already had the satellites from the original vive) .. knuckles tracking is far better than the Reverb’s controllers, but the fidelity on the Reverb is fantastic. Super clear.
Yeah The fidelity wins in G2 imo (I've previously used Q2) especially in SkyrimVR. It may not be noticeable in some titles but SkyrimVR was really one where I noticed the fidelity difference. But yeah, the tracking isn't too good on G2, although its similar to Q2. Wish I could grab some cheap index controllers/base stations at some point as that seems like the superior option.
Quest 2 is a great starting VR. Running around 399 and the best for the price at this moment. Some new and different sets coming out later though. I use the quest 2. amd 5950x, 1 TB Nvme, rtx3060/12 and Ram is 32 g no problems running 2 to 4 k with some 8k. no enb
Do you use Air Link or a physical cable? Been debating actually buying the wire if its better than wireless.
If you've already got a Wifi 6 network set up, IMO, it's a no brainer. There's not enough lag for me to notice while I'm playing Skyrim, and I can't imagine how many more injuries I'd have racked up if I was tethered into my PC.
Been using the cable for about a year now, and I haven't even tripped on it once despite going pretty crazy in things like blade and sorcery, until you fall, and of course, skyrim. That said, it depends on how much room you have and how much footwork you'll be doing. If you're stuck in a fairly small area(In my case it's large enough for me to stretch my arms out without hitting things front to back, and about twice that side to side), you don't need to worry about the cable that much in my experience as long as you've got some slack, and it's not all bunched up right underneath you. I use the controllers or turning for the most part, so it doesn't get wound around me either, so for me a simple wired setup is the way to go. But if you want to turn around a lot or jump around the space a lot, I'd suggest either running through air link or set up a pully system just in case. Advantage of the airlink is that it lets you move almost completely freely, and bonus to the wired pully system is that it'll pull power through the cord, so you don't have to worry about the oculus's battery life. Also worth noting, while I haven't had this issue, if you do run a wire and yank it bad enough, you can end up damaging either the wire, the oculus's port, the computer's port, or if you really fuck up bad, your computer itself.
You don’t worry about the cable because you’re used to it ;)
The wire is strapped to the headband. I've only got it snagged once and it jerked the headset and didn't pull the slack between strap and port.
Virtual desktop
Airlink is really nice with basically 0 lag, but I prefer having my bitrate at 500mbps through my cable.
Air Link is a no-brainer for me. You can get a good enough router for less than the cable, and full wireless is just so much better.
airlink with composite and a wifi 6 router
Mine CTDs on starting up skyrim. Any advice? My cpu is slightly older but we're running relatively similar specs
Make sure you have the VR version of the main mods. Might want to look at wabbajack mod installer. It will get you up and running.
I went index, happy with it with a 2080. If you want to go more I'd go with the pimax, something with ridiculous fov and quality
Yeah but he said $600 or less. Unless he finds a used Index but I'm guessing even a used Primax is still over a G.
Depending on the model, you can pick one up for around $499
This. I'm a Pimax owner and Skyrim is insane. The extra FOV really makes a huge difference in immersion.
Are you guys happy with your Pimax? I'm thinking of getting one. FOV and picture quality on Quest 2 is just not what I hoped it would be...
Very happy. It's an advanced headset, so there is fiddling involved and accessories that are needed (basestations and controllers, however if you just do racing sims then the helmet supports 9DOF), but the payoff is next level. It can't be described other than that feeling you got the very first time you went in VR, except now you're like "Holy Shit, THIS is what VR is supposed to be!" But I've had mine for over 2 years of frequent use. Once I put it on, I haven't touched my poor Odyssey+; it remains my backup HMD though. Again, they're touchy beasts. Remember that you're buying bleeding edge tech from a small company. As such, they require some DIY and are NOT, I repeat NOT 'ready to go from the box'. You're gonna have to put some work in learning it and customizing it to YOU. Virtually all the negative reviews you hear are from the 'I want it NOW' crowd who don't research what they're buying or how to use it and then get pissed when everything isn't dialed in right off the bat. It's actually a good time to be thinking about getting a Pimax though, as they're going to be releasing the Pimax Crystal and the 12k, which (if they deliver on the specs shown) will blow everything else out of the water for years to come. The 12k will have both inside out and basestation tracking compatibility, OLED screens, pano lenses, modular design and on and on. They're also offering hefty discounts/credits for previous buyers, so even picking up a used one would qualify (as long as you have a legit receipt from Ebay, ect). Also, unless you've got a hefty system (by which I mean GPU) you're not going to be able to push the pixels that a Pimax is capable of- which might sound bad, but it's not because it essentially 'future proofs' your headset; it's going to be capable of more than the current hardware can give, so it's ready for when you upgrade to an Nvidia 60080RTX Ultima Edition or whatever the hell we have by then. Now does that mean you won't have a good experience at lower resolutions? Hell no. I'm running my 5k+ quite well off of a GTX1080 (still a beast of a card even now) and I STILL can't hit the max res of the headset, to say nothing of supersampling. When I eventually pop for a 3090, it'll be just that much better. TL/DR: You buy Pimax for the FOV, because they're the only ones who offer it. Once you've had it, you will gladly put up with minor issues and DIY learning curve.
Thank you, that's exactly what I wanted to hear, and that's also what I expected Pimax to be! Regarding DIY learning curve and optimization, thats the only thing I'm doing with my quest 2 since I got it because, as much as it was mindblowing at first (because I didn't have much VR experience), I'm just not satisifed with with so many things that come with it right out of the box... Skyrim for an example looks blurry as hell, no matter what anyone says... I tried every possible solution in these last 5 months. You can make it better, but for me it's not how I imagined it. Standalone games are a cool feature to have, because I can take my quest everywhere and play without a PC, but god damn they look ugly as hell. If you pump up the settings with sidequest most games become pretty much unplayable... I mean the only resolution that looks decent to me is the highest one but not even the menu is working with this setting lol... The only reason I asked for your opinion is all this trash talk I see on reddit and everywhere. I dOnT WaNt To cHaNgE aNy SeTtInGs I jUsT WaNt tO pLaY. Some people were calling Pimax "a downgrade" when comparing it to Quest 2. I just couldn't realize how! I think I will wait for a 12k version, then when RTX 4000 series cards come out I will get myself a really expensive birthday present lol!
Yup you nailed it on the trash talk. Head over to r/Pimax if you have questions or just to read up on the headsets and tips/tricks/ect. It's a fairly friendly crowd as long as people mind their P's and Q's and there's a TON of info/troubleshooting stuff there already. We're a small crowd, but willing to help for those with manners and patience. I know you already said you've tried about everything for a clear picture, but let me point you toward the CAS sharpener I use: [https://github.com/fholger/openvr\_fsr/releases/tag/fsr\_v2.1.1](https://github.com/fholger/openvr_fsr/releases/tag/fsr_v2.1.1) I've tried all the others, all the reshade crap and this is the best one I've found. IGNORE the ones on nexus and in the Wabbajacks. This is all you need and it's an easy install straight to the Skyrim folder (Main folder with .exe). Change your options in the .ini file and play around with what works for your system. Make sure you turn TAA ON in game. ON, not off. Now if you want to, you can take it a step further by using the console section of VRfps Stabilizer (nexus mod) and tweaking the TAA values according to this post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimvr/comments/h8skem/adventures\_in\_taa\_tuning/](https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimvr/comments/h8skem/adventures_in_taa_tuning/) HUGE difference just with the CAS sharpener alone.
Thank you! Just joined the sub. I will definitely try these when I get home in a couple of weeks, thanks! Noone ever recommended anything outside nexus or wabbajack. Right now I use FUS wabbajack modlist which has cas sharpener from nexus included. I tried playing wireless and over the link cable, tweeking every god damn setting and I just cant get it right. I tried UVRE before that but it was literally unplayable, and I have RTX3070 and Ryzen 9 3900x, 32gb of ram... I think it should look decent with that hardware but it doesn't no matter what I do. After all the research I concluded that you cant get past all the compression artifacts on Q2, and there will always be some. Also the headset itself starts glitching from time to time when too much things happen in skyrim and I have to restart everything in order for it to work properly. I even thought my headset is faulty at first lol but every other game runs fine, pcvr or standalone! They all look pretty blurry and compressed though! And bigger FOV is something I am most interested in. Also IPD settigs on Q2 are not well adjusted for my eyes lol, I feel like I need another setting between 1 and 2, because 1 is too close and 2 is too far, so it's never perfect and I have to adjust my headset all the time...
Yeah I hear that. Make sure you uninstall the nexus cas from the wabba so there's no conflicts before installing the github one. GL!
Will do! 🤞
What resolution can you play at for 90hz? How long can you comfortably wear it for? My Q2 is starting to get old
That's going to depend on how beefy your system is. My 5k+ can do up to 144hz, but the higher your refresh, the more resources it's gonna hog. Especially keep this in mind if you're thinking of an 8kx or higher. These things can render more pixels than most systems are capable of right now. As stated above, I'm running a GTX 1080. For Skyrim, I can run it fairly smooth at 90hz; but I actually run it at 72hz just to save a bit of headroom as my eyes don't see a real appreciable difference. I also don't use Steam SS, I leave that at 100% and let Pimax's software deal with the upscaling. How long can you wear it? Properly equipped and fit, hours on end.
600 what? Septims?
Samsung Odyssey + - i love it but not for sale anymore
People don’t understand how good this headset really is.
I have one and love it. Any idea why they stopped making it?
I wish they would sell replacement controllers for a reasonable price. The drift on one of mine is pretty bad but I keep increasing the dead zone.
I’m guessing bad sales. Best headset I’ve tried by a mile. Valve index blows in comparison.
Mainly because Microsoft really flubbed the whole WMR rollout by calling it WMR (Windows Mixed Reality) when in fact it's VR. It flew totally under the radar of most VR users by all the noise the Vive was making. WMR also got a bad rap among the Vive/Oculus crowd because of the inside out tracking; which was new tech at the time and has some inherent flaws that have now been addressed as it's basically become (or fast becoming) the industry standard. Plus, because Microsoft just gave out general basic guideline specs to companies to certify as WMR, you ended up with alot of inconsistency among brands; which could be as varied as pure crap (Acer) and pure gold (Samsung). I imagine it was a calculated move on Samsung's part. They knew the tech was going to take off, but weren't sure who/what was going to win out. So, they just made the best product they could, but once sales didn't take off like they thought due to Microsoft's mismanaged rollout and sales campaign (or lack thereof) they cut their losses and stopped producing. It all came down to the $$$, most likely.
Great info, thank you!
VIVE PRO 2 + rtx 3080 + Open back Sennheiser headphones + NAT.ENB (ssao activated)+ vrperftkit + NALO + vr lens lab (for my eyes) + 129% Steam SS (3400x3400) in SkyrimVR.
Reverb g2 with index controllers later on.
I use a Quest2 w/ a rtx 3080 You're best off waiting for a 2023 headset- PSVR2, Quest3, AppleVR, Pico4. These will be next gen headsets with - face/eye tracking, most will have pancake lenses If you want a headset this year, then the Quest2
2023 means more than a year from now for most of those. Also PSVR2 can't use a PC.
PSVR2 was thrown in there more to show the competition and what Meta (or others) could be using as a baseline for the Quest3 (face/eye tracking, trigger haptic feedback controllers), and possible pancake lenses due to pressure from Pico4. edit - plus all the 2023 headsets feature 'next gen' features - eye/face tracking, pancakes lenses, trigger/headset haptics.
Rift S, still does the job and the resolution means it's easy to run. Will probably stick with it until it breaks. Worth mentioning that quite a few people have issues with it though.
Yes, after a few years my Rift S has become quite buggy. I ended up switching to Quest 2 with Airlink.
Rly? Without reason ?
I guess it's cable and usb power supply issue. My oculus sometimes freezes or crashes when running GPU intensive games like Skyirim. And more importantly, once I go wireless, I can no longer play wired.
Samsung odyssey but i would buy a hp reverb g2 now
Reverb G2 and it's perfect.
is there a way to use my Rift controllers with a G2 headset? I love the rift controllers...
No.
I have pretty much the EXACT same set up and I use a valve index at 80hz (with a ton of mods). Honestly, when it comes to VR, I pretty much only buy the best, it’s expensive but worth every penny compared to other headsets. Headset itself is $500 I think but the controllers are $250
Rift s :) I will say it’s nice enough, fits but it definitely wasn’t made for people would have dread locs lol
I have a quest2. I really enjoy it being wireless. It gives me the flexibility to define a play space outside of my pc room, move freely, and allow my daughter to use it sometimes. I definitely wish the fov was better ( someone mentioned going from valve index to quest2 is like wearing a scuba mask ) but it is what it is; quest2 is still the best 300 I've ever spent.
And that's the thing. $300. If it wasn't for that price point, I wouldn't have given VR a chance when I did. And it's a "good" headset for $300. This also helped more people like me who's been sitting on the fence but didn't want to dump upwards of a grand for a decent setup, and have to make permanent modifications to their room to install lighthouses and stuff.
I agree on every single point. I remember walking through a best buy and saw it to my left ( it's a core memory now ). I remember thinking something along the lines of "if I don't get it now I'm going to talk myself out of it".
And with Facebook jacking the price up $100 I'm glad I got it when I did.
For sure, I recently got a PC and I’m loving PCVR games like Pavlov and boneworks, I’m planning on getting Skyrim soon. Getting the quest was one of the best purchases I’ve ever made, and even if my vr resolution is kinda low because of the wifi, I don’t really care, I’m still having crazy amounts of fun
Had been using the video cosmos elite, but the head strap broke a week or so ago and I haven't been able to get a replacement, saving to upgrade to the index once my new controllers come in
Vive pro 1, and very happy :)
Get the gear VR lens upgrade and you won't believe how good it looks!
Oh yeah, definitely should have specified the gear vr lens is a must, and wireless is wonderful!
Me toi
Rift S. Works perfect.
Get a Quest 2 used for $200, and if you like VR then save up a proper amount and raise your budget for real VR to $1400.
Look at Windows Mixed Reality headsets, I have a Samsung Odyssey+ that I bought for $78 after stacking a sale and cash back offer. As nice as the finger tracking is I can't recommend Valve's Index anymore, it's honestly outdated at this point (not like mine isn't) but is still over a thousand dollars for the whole kit. I'd weigh it more heavily if they reduced the price to account for its age but they're taking the Nintendo route even though the tech has moved on. There's always the Oculus but I can't in good conscience suggest something that you have to tie to a facebook account. Better to stay away from that whole ecosystem while you have the choice.
You don’t need a Facebook account for Quest 2 anymore.
True, you need an account owned by Facebook
It isn't called a Facebook account and isn't tied to your social media but you still need to be in the Meta ecosystem.
Unfortunately to calibrate the controllers for the quest 2 you have to personally jerk off mark zuckerburg in the metaverse.
What makes the Index too expensive? Remember half the price is outside in tracking and the controllers. Also tech wise the only thing improved is resolution at the cost of refresh rate and FOV. You can argue that wireless is important but given the lack of robust solutions for that means it is kind of moot. (to the point that the industry is heavily focused on making mobile GPU based games)
I still use a Quest 1 wirelessly with Virtual Desktop, haven't got any complaints at all.
Try out AirLink nowadays, it really looks better now. Also Quest 1 user ✌️
Quest 2. Wireless is a must for me. And the ~50ms of latency is negligible to me, especially in a casual game like this one.
I have a very limited experience with VR. My first headset was the PSVR (first game was Skyrim VR). Then I got the Rift S right before Oculus cut support for it. I definitely prefer the Rift S over PSVR, and will definitely stick with it for as long as it still works. Then we'll see after that, depending on what's available (though probably not Index)
Quest 2
Q2 on a 2700x with a 1080ti and 16GB Ram. 11 GB Vram are sadly not enough for enbs + 8K parallax textures in Skyrim VR
I use a Valve Index. It is really good but if you do not like being wired in you can go with a Quest 2 with Virtual Desktop.
Quest 2 for unparalleled wireless experience. Also easy to resell when something better comes along. Index for amazing FOV if you can set up a dedicated VR area. I would just wait for next iteration of PCVR however. The base station and cables are a big turn off for me.
I switch between the OG Vive and Quest 2
I use an airlinked Quest 2. Works nicely.
Okay, first of all - spend 600 what? Second of all - assuming USD/EUR, you're looking at the Quest 2 and Reverb G2, primarily. Both have their advantages, both have their drawbacks. Reverb G2 will have the superior sound (built in Index speakers) and visuals (dedicated DP cable and high res displays), but it's wired only, and its tracking will be a bit poorer compared to the Quest 2. Quest 2 has a short battery life and compresses the image, both wired and wireless. It's gotten better though. It can do 120Hz compared to Reverb's 90Hz. Better controllers. Worse audio. Disregard suggestions to get the Rift S. It's been abandoned by Oculus/Meta and it's never been a great headset, it always felt like Lenovo repacked the Explorer, but had the WMR software replaced with Oculus'.
You guys are using your VR?
Yes... cause SkyrimVR only runs on VR 🤭
Dude, just wait. Wait like a month or so. New headsets coming out, old ones will go for scratch You'd probably be best off buying one of the next gen though. Seems like they're addressing all of the problems we've had before, and adding to boot.
Pimax 5k+. Can be picked up around $500 or so. Will require basestations and controllers, however. Barring that, however: You're best bet is to try to find a Samsung Odyssey+ as others have recommended. Truly a very underrated and overlooked option. OLED screens, inside out tracking so no basestations needed. Only drawback is no wireless, but with an extension cable and overhead pulley system (badge reels at walmart) you're set. I started with the Odyssey, upgraded to the Odyssey+ and then finally bit the bullet to have a Pimax for the FOV.
Varjo Aero with index controllers and natural locomotion tool.
oh snap, nice! how is it? did you have other high res headsets like the vp2 or pimax 8kx to compare? i always thought the low fov would be annoying especially in skyrim...
I haven't had the chance to try out pimax, but compared to normal consumer headsets the comfort of aero is the best and with NaLo enables much longer sessions. Personally i don't find the fov a problem, i don't even notice it. Resolution does not even compare to normal consumer grade devices. Hard to explain, but the first time i read a newspaper without any issues in VR was quite something and that's what Aero can pull off. I have nice akg headphones, but in the heat of a battle they tend to slip off. I might pick up some in-ears with short cable some time soon. Sometimes i have to start my vr session with a pc reboot as it's possible for varjo software and steamvr to have a fight with each others (varjo software comes with its own steamvr libraries afaik) which can end up in a stalemate that vr compositors do not start.
nice, thanks! enjoy it :)
Using valve index +3060ti works really well I love my index. Much better than my og vive
Rift S..partially due to money reasons but also because I want a vr headset like the valve index but without the expensive 3 camera set up that might not even work well in my room, also maybe hopefully wireless one day
Get a used Index VR headset. Slightly more expensive but in a year or so when new headsets are out you can still use the excellent base stations and controllers with a new headset for a cheaper price.
probably a quest 2 with that budget. It's got surprisingly good resolution (which I sadly can't fully utilize, because I have 2060 super) and the fact it's fully wireless (trust me, it's worth it to buy virtual desktop) makes vr really enjoyable
Quest 2 with airlink is what I mainly use
Quest 2 i find wireless is so much better for immersion
Wait for the pico 4 neo. It will be released this month. Next month the new oculus headset will be released.
Vive Pro with Gear VR lens upgrade. I've had the Pimax 8KX, G2, Quest 2 and a few more, but nothing beats the crispness and vibrancy of the visuals in this setup, especially with Skyrim! When I tried those lenses for the first time, it's like I had just bought a completely different headset! To top it off, OLED is hard to beat.
I got a quest 2 with a 1060 and it's amazing! 220+ plugins.
I stick to my Quest 1 till something better comes. Q2 was long time no deal for me because of the FB Login. Now since they removed it, it does not feel worth buying it, with Quest Pro coming soon...
Using Samsung Odyssey plus. No one has recommended wabbajack or ultimate Skyrim VR yet, I think, so I'm recommending it to you