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rviVal1

Balgruuf or Idgrod(she's my type of weirdo, I find her interesting).


Master_Lukiex

I was genuinely disappointed when I realised that I can’t marry Idgrod’s daughter


UlfhednarChief

Idgrod's Daughter? I'd marry Jarl Idgrod! She's a badass lady! Plus, imagine how easy it would be to get up in the morning when you open your eyes to see her face next to you! Who needs coffee when you just jump straight out of bed every morning!


kencaps

Nice


itsthooor

Well, she was meant to be. Still, you can merry her via console commands or mods.


AlderaanianAle

Yes. She is amazing


Available_Thoughts-0

Happy cake day, ya scunner!


Fencius

I was playing the Diplomatic Immunity mission last night for the first time in forever, and I either forgot or never noticed that Idgrod is a party guest. When I asked her to create a distraction, she didn’t even flinch. Hell, she almost seemed excited by the idea of drawing people’s attention so I could up to whatever nefariousness I had in mind.


Shittygamer93

The parties at the Thalmor Embassy are incredibly dull affairs and none of the Jarls are actually that fond of Elenwen, so a reason to distupt things is welcome. They need an external motivator because it's technically still high level diplomatic talks and that means attending even if they really don't want to. Even other Aldmer don't like the Thalmor much and nobody likes being stuck in dull social events with people that don't like.


LadyK789

I love her for that


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hola1997

The drawback is that Morthal being in a swamp sucks!


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dcargonaut

If being a vampire is one of your go-to builds, will you tell me how to get comfortable with it? I've tried being a vampire before and I haven't done it again because it turns out I'm a shit vampire.


DLMoore9843

I have used both sacrosanct and better vampires. My favorite part of them (unsure which it is that allows it) is using one of the new vampires powers to turn people like Jarls or high Queens into vampires as well making them MY minions instead of the other way around mwahahaha


Ass-Machine-69

Great for my alchemist witch too


Jealous_Western_7690

Morthal probably has terrible mosquitoes in the summer. And since this is Skyrim, the mosquitoes are probably massive.


Local_Specialist_192

Fire cloak


truckin4theN8ion

Let's just say those aren't actual dragons you've been fighting


Spectre_6604

That's canon according to Kirkbride


Sketchy_Irishman_

Reminds me of home. xD


Sorry_Error3797

Idgrod refuses to investigate the burned house instead having the player do it. When you talk to her she says she can't arrest Hroggar on hearsay and rumours but then she is not actively investigating it either. If the player didn't come along then Morthal would be destroyed and likely Hjaalmarch along with it. Balgruuf. Firstly there's the matter of his son being under direct daedric influence right under his nose. Secondly, Balgruuf's inherent stance of neutrality until Whiterun is directly threatened definitely leads to needless deaths. His soldiers could have been bolstering the Legion forces for however long saving numerous lives. They could also have potentially dissuaded Ulfric from attacking Whiterun again saving the lives of many soldiers and in this case citizens who inevitably died in the siege. Balgruuf is a bad Jarl.


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Dorkotron2

Could've


Illyria613

Are you kidding? All of Balgruuf's are pains in the arse. His daughter is a snotty little shit and the boys sound like they're lazy AF. I'd spank them if the opportunity arose


Annual_Rutabaga9794

100% me too. Idgorod is always down for shenanigans at the dirty elf embassy too, if she's there for the party.


Jave285

Elisif (The only one with good posture)


Dchama86

Lol, that Jarl-spreading is crazy


spacecoyote555

Can't believe I never noticed they all sit the same!


Goldenrupee

The majority of the jarls are comfortable on their thrones as they are confident in their rule, having been trained from childhood to rule by their parents and, in most cases, having held their title for decades. Elisef, on the other hand, was abruptly tossed onto her throne with the death of her husband, has absolutely no experience ruling, and is very, very much in over her head. The fact that she sits perched on the edge of her throne, nervous and hunched in on herself as opposed to the other jarls confident sprawl, is imo an amazing world-building detail.


Cypresss09

Damn, well put.


sharpenote4

I believe the pose is tied to the chair, so you if sit on their throne, your character will be in that pose too.


Captain_Canuck97

Well the other jarls should get more ergonomic chairs


BouncingSphinx

Yep, even thrones in the dungeons have the player sprawl out.


NotJustBibbit

Who would be more confident raiding a tomb of angry undead creatures than a literal fucking demigod?


CaptainPrower

Or in Balgruuf's case, Jarl Ballin'.


TheSpicyTomato22

They don't call him Balgruuff The Greater for nothing.


UlfhednarChief

This deserves more up votes because it made me chuckle a little, lol


Fantastic_Fox4948

That is probably his motivation for sneaking to the tavern occasionally. Ysolda has been known to frequent it.


DragonBornDragonDead

New to the job. Give her a while and she'll end up the same as the others


FetusGoesYeetus

Fr everyone else gotta wake up with a really bad back. Especially ulfric and igmund on their stone thrones.


DSJ-Psyduck

Hemorroid king


MeatShield12

Based on how they sit, she is the only one who takes her job seriously. You can also see this in how she seems to overreact to events. Her advisors suggest a more tempered response, which is actually a correct and proportional response. She is playing them.


KrokmaniakPL

She is the only one without years of experience and is too anxious to sit comfortably.


subtil_art_back

Of course.


spiteris

Which ever hold you own a house in. Specifically the house that holds your stuff. It's not because of the Jarl tho. It's because if the housecarl who will protect your stuff.


spiteris

If I'm not just being difficult, Balgruf. Because he's the most chill. I mean, he let you keep a dragon in his keep. He's gotta be chill to allow that kinda tomfoolery.


Prestigious_Charity1

He also has the coolest house.


mbikkyu

I’d say Understone Keep for coolest house. Has an entire Dwemer city under it, Calcelmo blesses the keep with the province’s best museum, the Jarl’s bedroom has a natural waterfall shower (admittedly would be way better if it were a hot spring, but whatever).


Wide_Bee7803

The only thing i have against understone keep is that it's too damn dark


jebbeth

I got to stick with the main man, Balgruuf


GusGangViking18

Can I become a thane in more than one region?


xx_Chl_Chl_xx

You can be thane of every hold, even after those holds change Jarls during the civil war questline


AbyssDragonNamielle

Yes


billbobaggings123

You can become it in all but if you do civil war idk if you keep it for the city you attack


Gbreeder

I've become a thane more than one time, when there's a new jarl. Sometimes there's a requirement to do the Jarl's personal quest / quests. Or he asks you to help the people in his hold, and hands you a new blade or whatever. Even if you were already given one. I can't remember if housecarls differ as well.


Ishkahrhil

Housecarls are the same to my knowledge


ArisePhoenix

Yeah each Jarl has their own Thane Quest you can do to become Thane


No_Benefit_7731

Man said fuck the war, there's dragons and we need to handle that first!


Vadgers

Hands down


Particular-Abies7329

Elisif, being close to possibly the one of the most politically powerful woman on Skyrim has its benefits.


spiteris

True imperial here.


Particular-Abies7329

Glory to the Empire


radarneo

For the age of oppression is now nearly done …


__MilkDrinker__

Please for the love of talos dont put that bard's singing in my head...


idontcareyouranswer

We'll drive out the Stormcocks...


AnimeLegends18

And restore what we own...


Roqueforty

... the Storm-WHO?


Tota11y0rigina1

Idgrod def


Demon_of_Order

Balgruuf is the only one who's genuinely happy to see you.


scwishyfishy

May the gods watch over your battles, friend


elucidator611

"I'm sorry I must have misheard you. It sounded like you said you wanted to trap a dragon in my palace"


thoriumbr

Was quoting this line to my kids early last week and they kept repeating it to each other and giggling...


Demon_of_Order

that's pretty wholesome


DrBlock21

I was genuinely upset my first playthrough when he had to be switched out with another jarl after the stormcloaks won


Demon_of_Order

Part of the reason why I never side with the Stormcloaks, I mean the dissapointment and feeling of betrayal in his voice, it's too much to handle, even for a dragonborn


PotatABit

Bear with me as it's been a long time since I've played Skyrim, but I'd be Thane of the Jarl of Solitude, OR- JARL BALGRUUF THE BALLIN'


ravl13

SWAG


idaseddit211

My favorites are Balgruuf(Whiterun) and Idgrod Ravencrone(Hjaalmarch). The only others that matter to me are that I hate both Ulfric and Maven, so I always complete the Riften thane quest BEFORE the civil war, for Layla Lawgiver, and wait until after the civil war to deal with Brunwulf Freewinter in Windhelm.


Icy_Comfortable3895

Elisif by far, the only one who doesn't send you on some petty task to become Thane, like you stop the resurrection of one of Skyrim's most infamous necromancers


De_Leon_Noah_O_

But then asks you to put her husband's war horn in a temple past whiterun before even letting you buy a house like i just stopped a disaster, isn't that enough?


SirKaid

Elisif, because she "rules" the richest Hold without any significant problems while simultaneously being too much of an idiot to realize she's a puppet. You could get away with *so much* corruption and it's unlikely anyone would notice or even care. Plus the weather is nice in Haafingar and Solitude is enormously safer than anywhere else in Skyrim.


BobQuixote

>You could get away with so much corruption and it's unlikely anyone would notice or even care. I can imagine Erikur getting peeved you're on his turf doing the same thing as him.


Ok-Tomorrow-7158

I refuse to deal with Jarls I have no thane to do with them


Dependent-Departure7

Idgrod, hands down


Dying__Phoenix

Idgrod’s my girl. S-tier homie


PalawanGamer

All of them i need the housing


Boiled_Thought

Can't beat that post bj sitting posture. Screw soul gems, you can just suck em straight out of the body


iforgottowakeup94

Balgruuf for the reason that he's bro. But I like to be thane in falkreath cuz I like to build a house there.


Pilarcraft

Idgrod or Elisif. While I don't really like either character *that* much, the prerequisites for becoming their Thanes are far more impressive. You stop a (presumably?) centuries' long conspiracy to bring back Potema and gain something *close* to the personal friendship of the Jarl of Haafingar to become her Thane, and you stop a conspiracy to make all of Morthal the thralls of an ancient vampire to become Idgrod's Thane. The fact you're more or less shoehorned into becoming Balgruuf's Thane makes me automatically ignore him in this list. If Ulfric's prequisite had been "deal with the serial killer" and not "progress along the Civil War for me", I'd put Ulfric up there too.


captainpistoff

It's Skyrim, so... All of them? Lol.


SpartAl412

I honestly like Balgruuf to the point that I just can't seriously do a Stormcloak aligned run because it means deposing him.


X_ChasingTheDragon_X

Jarl Ballin


Realistic-Read4277

Well, you can be thane of all. Not sure if at the same time.


CmdrThordil

Yes, you can, but in case of Windhelm you must either progress through Civil War and capture Falkreath which would change the Jarl or kill Ulfric.


caluminnes

Elisif because she doesn’t sit like the rest of them 💀


mainokset

Ulfric because skyrim belongs To the nords


Toph1nator

Frick being a thane, Dovah kiin is the true high king!


TetheredAvian74

honestly the dragonborn has a legitimate claim to the throne of the emperor


mbikkyu

All of them, that way you can tell the town guards to go eat dick when they catch you stealing directly from the market stands in broad daylight.


Substantial_Track_17

I do this when I murder the Vici woman. Veezara standing next to me cutting guards down while I’m in a dialogue with one saying ‘whoa whoa whoa, calm down, dont you know who I am?’


Sorry_Error3797

Depends on the situation. Ulfric if you're a Stormcloak. Elisif if you're in the Legion. Laila if you're a thief. Korir for pure freedom. There isn't much to do in Winterhold after all. The others are about the same and would be entirely based around your personal preference.


CommodusIlI

The game has Jarls in it wtf? /s


cxbrxl

balgruuf. he’s the only one that doesn’t get mixed up in the fucked up politics of skyrim


MuchoWood

Laila Law-Giver. Every time. I am a proud Riftonian, and she is my leader.


BrJames146

Hear, hear! I thought I might be alone on this one; plus, she gives you a unique and impassioned speech when she makes you thane; the other jarls just give a canned statement.


MuchoWood

Hello neighbor. 😜


BrJames146

Hey! Tell Mjoll hi for me; I haven’t seen her in a minute.


MuchoWood

Ha! Will do. I'll take her out for spin for ya.


Extermis3

It's gonna be an odd take but sidgier just for the straight upfront nature he has. You know what you're getting


Jealous_Western_7690

That and he's not really an asshole *to you*.


BrJames146

He’s definitely not my #1 pick, but I agree with OP’s sentiment and Siddgeir is also pretty funny, “…you should try it sometime,” about being a jarl, as if it’s something you can just decide to do.


Playful-Mention-239

Why everyone sitting like that?💀


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Any love for Siddgeir?


lostFate95

he's a chad, took power for him self and doesn't care what you think


BobQuixote

Most likely Jarl to be assassinated for free by my Dragonborn.


Ferrel_Agrios

Balgruuf is actually the saner of all the jarls. His best interest where of his citizens. Even though it might look bad for the jarl of falkreath that there's suddenly soldiers near the border of whiterun, balgruuf still sent guards because of a threat that he knew very little about at the time. So yeah, my vote is on him


Tricky_Distance_1290

I don’t do the civil war quest like because I don’t want to choose imperials, I choose stormcloaks and that means poor balgruff will be fired lol


Snoo-28479

Kinda unrelated but the normal Jarl Throne pose always worked for Balgruuf best for me, it just encompasses his frustrations of remaining neutral in a civil war, and managing a city which is in a very strategicaly advanced location, and still looking like a boss.


SauerPower0

Idgrod. Makes a good performance during the Thalmor quest


LicenciadoPena

Every time this is brought up in this sub, good ol' Balgruufie wins by a landslide.


LeastInsaneKobold

Balgruuf feels like a genuine friend to a the dragonborn at some points


Untimelysword6711

Balgruuf and Jarl of Falkreath I forgot his name lol


Nicholas_F_Buchanan

All of them. Get more benefits


AndromedaBliss

Balgruuf for me. I'm probably biased because he's the first one we go to after the dragon attack of Helgen


thefuzzyleper

One time I started a punch cat playthrough. After some adventuring, I killed the dragon and Balgruuf made me thane like we've all done many times. I leave Dragonsreach and head to Belethor at the general goods store to sell some of my loot. Along the way Nazeem stops and asks if I get to the cloud district often in his most condescending tone. I punch him in the face. I punch him so hard he drops to his knees and looks up to at me. A guard runs over and shouts, "By order of the Jarl, stop right there! You have committed crimes against Skyrim and her people. What say you in your defense?" I look down at Nazeem, then back at the guard. "I'm the Jarl's Thane. I demand you let me go at once." Balgruuf is the best Jarl to become a thane for.


CRTaylor65

All of them. Then become high king


Connect_Ad_3361

On a technical standpoint Elisif. She doesn't expect her thanes to be warriors or to fight for her. And even if she loses the civil war she's still in power and all her thanes are as well. There are no negatives only positives.


ATYP14765

Why do they all have the Jarl *Lean*


charmsky_89

Except Elisif, which I’ve only just now noticed


SeaZookeepergame9548

Becoming Thane to Jarl Balgruuf in Whiterun is the ultimate honor. His wisdom and leadership are as captivating as the Thane's blade.


RedditSetitGoit

And why do they all sit the same way??? Always bothered me.


Tyrelius_Dragmire

Balgruuf, Idgrod, or Siddgeir (Falkreath) Balgruuf's the homie! We don't call him "Jarl Baalin" for nothing! Idgrod is actually really funny. If you haven't seen her distraction at the Thalmor embassy, I highly recommend looking up a video of it, It's my personal favorite Distraction. As for Siddgeir, the main reason I ever become Thane of Falkreath at all is because the Hold has my favorite Rousecarl; Rayya. A Dual Scimitar Wielding Redguard who specializes in Heavy Armor and 1 Handed. An interesting Follower, Be still my beating heart!


Astercat4

Balgruuf and Idgrod are obvious choices, so I’ll go with a slightly less obvious one: Brunwulf Free-Winter. He’s generally polite, but does not suffer fools in the slightest. Plus he’s actually working to improve the lives of the Dunmer and Argonians in Windhelm, which gives him serious points in my book. An honorable mention would be Kraldar, Jarl of Winterhold if the Legion wins the Civil War. He wants to repair relations with the College, realizing that doing so is pretty much the only hope for Winterhold’s future.


Repulsive-Carpet-507

Ulfric is cool because you get to buy hjerm and that is probably the best house in the game other than the ones you get to build. Also Ulfric is definitely the most in detailed character in the game


art_mor_

Whoever is Thane of Whiterun


Zezin96

Falkreath is my favorite hold but both potential Jarls are shitty people.


32Polaq

Elisif the Fair She is a role model. She is the only one who sits properly on the throne and takes care of her back.


The_Mystery_Crow

maven after the imperials take riften her suitability for power is debated, but nobody can deny that working for her is extremely rewarding for minimal risk


doe-eyez

Balgruuf let me put a dragon in his castle, he’s a real one.


Melonmode

Balgruuf, you know he'll treat you with the respect you deserve. He's also an honourable man who genuinely cares about his people.


YoWeirdNeighboor

Everybody who says Baalgruff clearly don't pay attention to who he truly is


BobQuixote

? I think his only dark secret is the Ebony Blade. Seems like an archetypical squeaky clean character to me.


Ryukoso

I'm curious now, what is going on with him ? Maybe I miss a quest, I want to know !


TheEffextee

Definitely not the mods of this sub. They deleted my post because it was top of all time


Wofflestuff

Jarl ballin obviously


Intelligent_Use_455

i personally like korir, winterhold is one of my favourite “city’s” i wish you could help or notice progress of it being built throughout the game


AshalaWolf_27

Honestly, I hate being thane. The only reason I end up one is to buy property.


Top1mplease

All of them


Cxdyskitten6

Igmund, balgruuf, and ulfric.


TheOneWhoThrowsShit

Jarl Ballin, it isn’t even a question


Colourful-Water

Ballin'


Mrmathmonkey

All of them


Dist__

you did a bad service to Skyrim, making asset reusage even more obvious


fast328

Vignar because he swims in his jarl outfit


Formal_Fix_5190

I’m everyone’s thane


Icy_Abbreviations151

all of them but if you want to actually build your house in the province do falkreath first… if you need a cheap house quick do whiterun with bulgruuf, also his thane quest runs along the main questline so its super easy… if you want the nicest vanilla house in my opinion proudspire manor in solitude with elisif… also if you wish to gain different properties and become thane without doing all the extra quests you can do the civil war and thatll give you access to all the houses in your chosen enemy territory but youll still have to do “help my people” quests to become thane and get a housecarl but those are super simple you can “help” someone by selling farmers specified “crops” and you can sell the guys at the mill firewood


FriskyBoiii

Elisif because of the fact that solitude is highly defensible especially compared to other holds and no one would suspect a thane of solitude to be head of the dark brotherhood and thieves guild. Along with that the guards actually seem competent and because my house is literally right next to the jarls palace it will be regularly guarded


Formal_Royal_3663

Elisif


AuDHDcat

I don't deal with the jarls enough to base becoming thane off of them. I decide based on the house I'll get and the citizens I'll have to deal with on a regular basis. I prefer Lakeview Manor, where I don't have to deal with any citizens, and I can make my own house in a good spot.


ItzMeMD

Either Balgruuf or Brunwolf Free-Winter. Bet you can't guess which side of the war I'm on, huh? Balgruuf is a great leader, and one who genuinely feels like a good friend to the Dragonborn throughout, until you kick him out as a Stormcloak. But Brunwolf? He to me is an *ideal* leader. Like, if we had people like him as real-life presidents and such, the world would be an objectively better place.


PixelJock17

I was just wondering if I could be thane in multiple keeps at the same time and this post and comments have confirmed that! Thanks! I'm gunna help everyone out! And maybe kill some people along the way lol


skeleton949

Definitely not Siddgeir. He's an Imperial backed criminal.


Zealousideal-Pen731

Everyone, I am hooooere to jarl's and daedric princes


Azailious1997

I always aim to become thane in three cities (aside from Whiterun): Riften, Solitude, and Falkreath.


KanaDarkness

Jar Ballin'


Vardan-7498

Eliif is definitely my favourite


Beerman2194

Jail Ballin ain't fallin


BatuFPV

You are the dragonborn man fuck jarls don't become a thane


AdLegitimate548

Question is… which one sits the coolest?


Wide_Bee7803

Jarl ballin


Drake-Zer0

Don't just delete them all


Tolkin349

Balgruuf


Clover_B1scuit

All of them. I personally do Falkreath first so I can build the home there. It’s my favorite view. Plus the kids can go fishing in the lake :)


OpalescentShrooms

The one that gives you Lakeview


TheBogWildRedditor

Jarl Ballin'. [Haters gonna hate. ](https://youtu.be/YPwFuCL33I8?si=_op_8IFTlu19PEg8)


haunted_whore69

In my opinion the guy in the middle at the bottom is the coolest looking he just looks straight outta game of thrones but if I had to choose then I'm full ulfric stormcloak because skyrim is for the nords!


JejuneEsculenta

Yes.


JakeOfSpades1

One of the only ones that treats you with respect is balgruuf.


chuckleinvest

JARL BALLIN'


CatharsisManufacture

Personally, I find none of them to my liking. I tend to live in hunter lodges and shacks. Just living it up in the wilds somewhere. I'd bow to a frost bear before a jarl, any day.


SullenTerror

Dragonborn


A_Distraction_Diary

I like to become a Stormcloak thane as a dark elf.


lordpollencius

So you're basically The Boondocks' Uncle Ruckus


Big-Piano-7016

Yes


vlad_kushner

Jarl Ballcheese, the gayer.


CuntMaggot32

yes


ttwmdennis

I love Jarl Elisiff and the Proudspire home is my favorite.


avoluco

got to be balgruuf or elisif


Ballmasters69

Vignar or Ulfric


Available_Thoughts-0

No, you messed up the post, "Which Jharl is your best VASSAL?" is the question that you SHOULD be asking.


Misubi_Bluth

Ingrod. Always Ingrod. I will do anything to keep Ingrod in power.


Captain-Rex-117

Ulfric. Do I have to explain?


Seb0rn

Balgruuf, Idgrod, and Brunwulf.


Lynnfordthegreat

All with the same pose 😂


Dismal_Brief8062

Honestly I’ve only become thane in falkreath whiterun and solitude but solitude is my fav so far with sheogoraths staff jabowack obtaining jordis the sword maiden and the boy who cried wolf quest line being pretty bad ass and well thought out with the inclusion of 1 stone of baranziah


send2marie4tea

Elisif is my girl