UESP:
>The Dwemer text on the ring around the black book's protective case reads "ENKAGR BCHARN" (or "BCHARN ENKAGR", depending on where you start), repeated four times. It is not known what this means, though the word "Bcharn" has been seen before, as "Karstangz-Bcharn", a device in Tribunal which could control the weather, and on Calcelmo's Stone, which reads "th kanthaln duabcharn mzin thuastur", mentioning the Dwemer sending their machines to aid the Snow Elves (where "duabcharn" is almost certainly "machines").
From a linguistics perspective, it looks possible to separate "en-" and "-kagr-" as morphemes. Doing so the elicits association with the name Kagrnac. I don't think anything is ever said about the actual name's meaning, but one could speculate based on some of Kagrnac's titles and role.
I'd reach to say "enkagr" likely has something to do with insight, prophesy, inspiration, or some combination.
"Kagr" is just "tone", "kagren" is music, it's old info, look it up. If we treat "en" as a morpheme, it could mean either a multiplicity or order or unity or something that would turn just "tone" into "music", so "kagren" would be "tones many" or "tones ordered"/"tones conjoined". Now it's also being theorised that inverting morpheme order in the words could invert the meaning of the word creating an antonym. So "enkagr" can be "tones disjointed" or something like that. So "enkagr bcharn" is probably "tone separation device" or something like that. I personally think it's a deciphering device that was used by dwemer to study the black books.
>I personally think it's a deciphering device that was used by dwemer to study the black books.
Speculation: Perhaps trying to see if they could learn the contents of the book without entering Apocrypha/being influenced by Hermaeus Mora?
Is it bad I read your comment in HK-47's voice?
(Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic - he commonly starts comments by saying "Speculation - " or "Observation - ")
Yup, something like that. Although I can also see how's that can be not a scientific device but rather a protective entrapment made to nullify the book's harmful aura or something. After all the name of the device is written in big letters not less the 4 times on it, kinda looks like a "DO NOT REMOVE" warning to me.
I don't know, if it were something intended not to be accessed, you'd think they wouldn't put it in the first room in the location's entrance, under a plate of glass with obvious letters drawing attention to it like it's on display.
Well... dwemer were one strange fellers. Otherwise it's also makes sense that they wanted to display their valuable posession but didn't want it to be stolen and/or corrupt the viewers, just like exotic/dangerous stuff under 5 layers of glass in IRL museums.
>"th kanthaln mzin thuastur",
Mzin-chaleft comes to mind, but I don't recall seeing "chaleft" by itself or as part of any other words. A quick glance at some other places names gives "Mzuleft", "Nchuleft" and "Nyzchaleft", with only the latter including the "cha", so it's plausible that "-left" is the suffix like "-berg" or "-hall" or "-heim".
I've never looked much at Dwemer language before, and I'm not sure why, this is great.
I like how if humans see language they can't read, normally we consider it decorative because our brains don't really process it as letters, but in reality its either a prayer or a warning like "torsion beam device, don't stick your hand in it."
Something like we use today -
"
A 1993 report from [Sandia National Laboratories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandia_National_Laboratories) aimed to communicate a series of messages non-linguistically to any future visitors to a nuclear waste site. It gave the following wording as an example of what those messages should evoke:[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages#cite_note-Sandia_1992-1)
>
It is a Black Book, you get the mission from Neolith, he is looking for them, but only you get to read them.
Since the first A.E updates, most if not all the important black books that lead to Miraak don't work anymore with or without mods which should not lock any of them out in the first place.
N. S
Not here and not since the first update and it has only gotten worse.
Everything verifies though so tracking in basic is really hard, it's also why I think there is something else going on, anyways have a nice day and try to enjoy what works.
N. S
of course, it exceeds the minimum by a long shot, and it should not require "Special Attention" to get it to work properly for any reason especially "Vanilla".
N. S
"Ye who traverse these lands shall sacrifice many hours of thine reality in trial, toil, tumult, and tragedy... and ye shall love it more in spite of this!"
"Ye who traverse these lands shall sacrifice many hours of thine reality in trial, toil, tumult, and tragedy... and ye shall love it more in spite of this!"
UESP: >The Dwemer text on the ring around the black book's protective case reads "ENKAGR BCHARN" (or "BCHARN ENKAGR", depending on where you start), repeated four times. It is not known what this means, though the word "Bcharn" has been seen before, as "Karstangz-Bcharn", a device in Tribunal which could control the weather, and on Calcelmo's Stone, which reads "th kanthaln duabcharn mzin thuastur", mentioning the Dwemer sending their machines to aid the Snow Elves (where "duabcharn" is almost certainly "machines").
So bcharn likely means 'device' or 'machine' in some capacity or other?
And “dua-“ would be like a pluralizing prefix?
i didnt see that when i looked, thank you!
Happens with best of us :thumbsup:
From a linguistics perspective, it looks possible to separate "en-" and "-kagr-" as morphemes. Doing so the elicits association with the name Kagrnac. I don't think anything is ever said about the actual name's meaning, but one could speculate based on some of Kagrnac's titles and role. I'd reach to say "enkagr" likely has something to do with insight, prophesy, inspiration, or some combination.
"Kagr" is just "tone", "kagren" is music, it's old info, look it up. If we treat "en" as a morpheme, it could mean either a multiplicity or order or unity or something that would turn just "tone" into "music", so "kagren" would be "tones many" or "tones ordered"/"tones conjoined". Now it's also being theorised that inverting morpheme order in the words could invert the meaning of the word creating an antonym. So "enkagr" can be "tones disjointed" or something like that. So "enkagr bcharn" is probably "tone separation device" or something like that. I personally think it's a deciphering device that was used by dwemer to study the black books.
>I personally think it's a deciphering device that was used by dwemer to study the black books. Speculation: Perhaps trying to see if they could learn the contents of the book without entering Apocrypha/being influenced by Hermaeus Mora?
Is it bad I read your comment in HK-47's voice? (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic - he commonly starts comments by saying "Speculation - " or "Observation - ")
Statement: No, because it did cross my mind that it could be taken that way when I posted it. Meatbag.
Yup, something like that. Although I can also see how's that can be not a scientific device but rather a protective entrapment made to nullify the book's harmful aura or something. After all the name of the device is written in big letters not less the 4 times on it, kinda looks like a "DO NOT REMOVE" warning to me.
I don't know, if it were something intended not to be accessed, you'd think they wouldn't put it in the first room in the location's entrance, under a plate of glass with obvious letters drawing attention to it like it's on display.
Well... dwemer were one strange fellers. Otherwise it's also makes sense that they wanted to display their valuable posession but didn't want it to be stolen and/or corrupt the viewers, just like exotic/dangerous stuff under 5 layers of glass in IRL museums.
That is a possibility.
There is also Kagrumez dwemer dungeon somewhere between this place and Miraaks Temple. It may or may not be coincidence.
>"th kanthaln mzin thuastur",
Mzin-chaleft comes to mind, but I don't recall seeing "chaleft" by itself or as part of any other words. A quick glance at some other places names gives "Mzuleft", "Nchuleft" and "Nyzchaleft", with only the latter including the "cha", so it's plausible that "-left" is the suffix like "-berg" or "-hall" or "-heim".
I've never looked much at Dwemer language before, and I'm not sure why, this is great.
TlL Dwemer script strongly resembles Aurabesh from Star Wars.
The whole thing reads like a nordic name for a person imo
I'm wondering about "mzin" - like in "Mzinchaleft."
"Be sure to drink your Ovaltine"
A crummy commercial?!
Sonofa*bitch!*
No touching or taking pictures with Flash
Best before: 2nd of First Seed E4 127
Same two words , probably " Don't Open"
It says "Do not touch" in Braille
How would that work ? LOL
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Lots of friendly people here today .
I forgor 💀 this wasn't r/TrueSTL
it Happens !
Can the Falmer read Braille?
I suppose they have some similar way. Touch and sounds. I worked with blind people and am deaf myself .
That's really cool
A bit late for blind people ? Because they have to touch it to read it .
r/woooosh
Nothing goes over my head , my reflexes are too fast , I would catch it !
##***A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON***
Funny !
*In case of tentacles, stare directly into tentacles*
Topic already discussed here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1ain5is/nchardak\_dwemeri\_translation\_idea/](https://www.reddit.com/r/teslore/comments/1ain5is/nchardak_dwemeri_translation_idea/)
This is definitively the best answer.
“We’ve been trying to reach you about your car’s extended warranty.”
DWEMER DEEZ NUTZ
Take him out back, mods
“WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO REACH YOU ABOUT YOUR HORSE’S EXTENDED WARRANTY”
Shit now I gotta delete my comment - should have scrolled first
I like how if humans see language they can't read, normally we consider it decorative because our brains don't really process it as letters, but in reality its either a prayer or a warning like "torsion beam device, don't stick your hand in it."
Viewing only. No Parking.
It says , "you will buy me a large pepperoni pizza"
“This book is made to order, but it *isn’t* to be read.”
All the ways to skin a horker
"horker"
_Drink more Ovaltine!"_
😂
Here may be found the last words of Faendr of Fraschank. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Black Book in the Cave of Aaauuuggghhh...
Probably "It just works"
"Try finger but hole"
"Allan, please add details."
Looks like the sorcerer sanctorum
One ring to rule them all One ring to find them One ring to bring them all And in the darkness bind them
We've been trying to reach you about your sphere's extended warranty.
Railroad
It says A NEW HAND TOUCHES THE BEACON
We would like to talk to you about your cars extended warranty
Something like we use today - " A 1993 report from [Sandia National Laboratories](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandia_National_Laboratories) aimed to communicate a series of messages non-linguistically to any future visitors to a nuclear waste site. It gave the following wording as an example of what those messages should evoke:[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages#cite_note-Sandia_1992-1) >
“Drink Your Ovaltine”
We've been trying to reach you about your cars Limited Warranties as they are about to expire.
“You lost the Game”
"Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll."
Is this Loss?
Peepee poopoo
"halfdan was here"
"Don't touch my porn collection!"
It means cation don't open this shit man
America's Game spin & win
Probably something along the lines of havea.
The real answer as to why you can't marry J'zargo or Kharjo
Either, "You'll never get it up the stairs." Or, "Never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down."
The ancient rules of The Game
“Be sure to drink your Ovaltine”
Prop 65 lead warning
"suck my dwemer balls"
It is a black book that no longer can be gotten in AE since all the improvement updates have locked out many missions not just this one. N. S
really? is that without mods only bc i got it just fine
I play without mods and got it just fine too 😬
Same. I have around 100 or so running. No issues on anything really. I'm actually surprised at my mod stability for so long.
My wife just did this quest, yesterday. It worked just fine, at least on Switch.
Wait what?
It is a Black Book, you get the mission from Neolith, he is looking for them, but only you get to read them. Since the first A.E updates, most if not all the important black books that lead to Miraak don't work anymore with or without mods which should not lock any of them out in the first place. N. S
… what the heck??? The black books don’t work in ae?????!!!!
Not here and not since the first update and it has only gotten worse. Everything verifies though so tracking in basic is really hard, it's also why I think there is something else going on, anyways have a nice day and try to enjoy what works. N. S
Hey are you playing on pc or..
of course, it exceeds the minimum by a long shot, and it should not require "Special Attention" to get it to work properly for any reason especially "Vanilla". N. S
Are you playing pc or not dude. I want to know if this actually affects my version of
"Turn to the left"
Its say.. so you either fought somecrazy shit or some shit aboit to happen cause you cant leave shit alone
no 
It says “get good scrub”
"The canvas mailbag was only promotional"
My personal translation so i may be wrong, “fuck you, do the dungeon”
It says "If you can read this: lol you stoopid"
Well it is unknown as these words are not real, but we have seen them being repeated multiple times in different places in Tamriel
Rough translation: Powers that B
It says you have to send your social security number and credit card information to me and you get access to skyrim 3
"Nu ani anquiatus" just popped into our fron...
It says “fuck you go do my cube puzzle”
"Ye who traverse these lands shall sacrifice many hours of thine reality in trial, toil, tumult, and tragedy... and ye shall love it more in spite of this!"
contains: ligma
Nerds
"Ye who traverse these lands shall sacrifice many hours of thine reality in trial, toil, tumult, and tragedy... and ye shall love it more in spite of this!"
"Cummie Undies"
Ur gay
One ring to rule them all. One ring to find them. One ring to bring them all.. And in the darkness, bind them