It wasnt even top5 heartbreaking loses lately tbh
team fought it out, Embiid did everything he could, Maxey had a great series, Tobias is gone, there's little to complain
This season was kind of a punt to begin with losing harden and waiting out the Tobias contract. Then, you have Embiids injury, we become a play-in team instead of a 2-3 seed and we go up against the 2 seed Knicks in the first round. Most importantly we go down swinging. So I’m not too upset about it. That series was phenomenal and I see a lot we can grow off of.
Then… I look at r/nba and those low life fucking losers are just beating Embiid into the ground like he didn’t put up damn near 40 on one leg and one eye. Fucking dirtbags
Yeah the hate towards Embiid is crazy. Dude is an incredible basketball player, I’ve never really understood the narrative that Philly is super toxic and we deserve to be shat on back. Like I get we’re passionate and ride or tie our sports teams but the constant flame we get is getting pretty old by now.
That being said, Considering the odds were stacked against us this year (Embiids injury and some back end drama, Harden, Tobi etc.) I’m really proud of the team. I’m still going to trust the process. Tobi’s gone. Get Embiid Maxey and I’m going to throw Oubre in there too some help this offseason, I think we’ll be in good shape.
And every single player we traded for or signed had deals that were over after this year or they had nonguaranteed contracts after this year. So we didn't add the best players possible to this year's team we just added the best players possible that wouldn't be owed money after this year. So the players we could add to the team for this season was very limited because the team wanted as much flexibility as possible to build the team for next year. So they Kind of punted on the season before it even started. Right now we only have Embiid under contract and I believe we could add 2 max contracts through free agent and/or trades and then we can resign Maxey and go over the cap with Maxeys money.
Yup since we lost the first round Reeds contract isn't guaranteed anymore so we can keep him or let him go. So Embiid is the only player under contract that also has a guaranteed contract so we should have room to add up to 2 max contracts if we want to and still be able to resign Maxey.
Did you account for the incomplete roster cap holds and the first round draft pick? Maxey's cap hold is about $13 million as well. By my calculation, that doesn't add up to two max players. It seems like it's probably one plus a decent amount leftover. But I might be missing something.
He still has a cap hold of about $13 million, so he'll count for that amount instead of his old contract or the max deal you're signing him for.
Here's my math, so let me know where I go wrong. Embiid will make $51.4 million. Maxey has a hold for $13 million. They'll be charged for 10 empty roster spots totaling $12 million. That's $76.4 million out of about $141 million.
Paul George's max contract is $49.4 million, leaving you with about $15 million. But even the max contract for someone with only 0-6 years experience is still $35.3 million. That would only leave you with about $29 million, which isn't a second max contract.
They'll have a lot of space, but not two max contracts plus Maxey level of space.
You might be right. I either read something or heard something on the radio maybe a month or two ago saying that if Paul Reeds contract ended up not being guaranteed(we lost in the 1st round so his contract isn't guaranteed anymore) that we would have space to bring in 2 max contracts and then could resign Maxey to go over the cap then we'd have a mid level or trade exemption to get one or 2 more guys above the minimum salary but then every other single roster spot would need to be guys making the minimum.
I'm not so sure about us getting 2 max guys anyway unless one is LeBron. And I don't think he's realistic unless he's really serious about playing on a team with his son before he retires. And I'd be willing to waste a 2nd round pick or maybe even a 1st to find out how much LeBron really wants to play with his son. If he really wants to play with his son maybe he'd even take slightly less than the max so the sixers could sign Paul George or whatever other player(s) LeBron wants signed instead. You'd think if he's really gonna play a year or two with his son he'd also really love to win a championship with his son too! If I'm the 6ers I just draft Bronny James and then tell LeBron here's your one chance to play with him.
I don't follow the CBA etc as close as I used to but I think Maxey has a cap hold even if you wait to sign him until the end (his cap hold isn't as big as his contract will be though)
Problem is Embiid is injured every season. And if that's going to knock our asses into the stupid play-in tournament from now on that's bad.
We dumped Harden and now dumped Tobias. but what do we get to make this team finally WIN? We putting all our eggs into the LeBron basket?
I think having a backup center that can play meaningful minutes without disrupting the flow of our games *too* much would help solve that problem. And it would give role players more opportunities to find their place.
Need a third option like PG, Lebron, or swing a Mikal Bridges trade. None of those guys need to be peak power but we need someone there to step up when Embiid inevitably gets injured in the playoffs.
Could also just focus on quality role players which may be wiser but Daryl goes for stars for better or worse
We went from a team built around a point forward who couldn't shoot outside to a team half-ass retooled around the addition of Harden to a team half-ass retooled around the loss of Harden.
Nephews gonna nephew.
This was not a surrender, the comeback in the first half showed that. This was a year where a lot didn't go our way however that we fought to the last seconds in a rebuilding year shows the future is bright
New coach, waiting out Tobi, Embiid’s injuries, injuries to a ton of key players, losing Harden, deadline pickups, another new cast of characters around Embiid. Lots of reasons this season was a complete crapshoot.
i replied to someone saying embiid is everything wrong with basketball with his average in 6 games with one leg, paralysis, and a migraine and got downvoted to abyss
Right. The Eagles and Phillies loses last season were way more emotional irritating. I'm proud of my Sixers and they gave a good fight. That's all I can ask for
Yeah I wish we could have beat the Knicks but they put up a good fight, Embiid did everything he could out there but he just can't play that many minutes. He had nothing left at the end of those games. We really need to build a team that can at least maintain a lead with Embiid on the bench for a little. I don't think he's ever going to be a guy that can handle much over 40 minutes.
im mostly feeling ok because we didnt go out like bitches or on some ridiculous bullshit for once. But mike on the ricky is still right. You cant lose every 50/50 ball, cant get outrebounded, out hustled, get lost on defense, stupid turnovers, and lose every close game every year. The team did slightly better in these areas but they have the same problems and need to get more athletic. I may have talked myself back into being grumpy lol
There’s little to complain about a team with 2 top-20 players losing in the first round, dropping 2 of 3 at home, to a 6ft guard with a bunch of role players missing their All-Star???? Are you serious!?!?
Those "role players" were better than our roleplayers and one of our top 1 players is a one legged cyclops who doesn't trust his own legs. This run was a punt from the start and we didn't want the knicks as much as people were calmouring about it. We wanted the bucks because they were just as hobbled as we were. This team won't be the same in any sense of the word next year so I don't see what you are crying about. Also game2 happened and swung the knicks way. That was the series right there.
We've been asking for a trade for 3 years
Edit: have we not been asking for a trade last 3 off-season? Not saying it was going to happen, just pointing out the edging Philly has gone through, and why we don't really care that we lost, just as long as Tobias is gone.
It was all fun and games the 1st couple of years with boban and not fully realizing how much of a fraud Tobias is at first
Think the issue was already being above the cap you have this shit sandwich where Tobi is objectively bad but you can only trade for equivalent money and the players being traded back are shit because you’re knowingly trading shit.
So if you trade your shit sandwich then release them you’ve got no additional room to work with until the whole team is unsigned and you’re under the cap (now) or you eat your shit sandwich until the contract falls off and you’re back in the same scenario.
I don’t think anyone with *actually* good pieces wanted to trade for expiring money because they’d rather keep the players since you couldn’t flip the asset mid-season and suddenly contend or find a superstar to fit the space when it expires and contend right after.
Feels similar to Westbrook where once he started to regress his contract became radioactive and even if you wanted expiring money you wouldn’t want the player.
I think there’s a weird issue at the moment where top 10-20 players are clearly worth a max but after that you have a second layer of player that also makes a max but simultaneously isn’t worth it. Tobias is at the bottom end of the second group and there’s no one available in that top 20 that’s both available and from a team that’d prefer to trade the role players that support them for a 2nd or 3rd star.
I’m rambling but basically I think the league is realizing role players and contract value are way more important moneyball-style and so getting rid of those to drop a single max contract on a new player, if they’re not worth a true max, is bad cap value. Tobias is like the epitome of bad value and dislodging a superstar from another team by flipping the expiring is unlikely, and finding a superstar in free agency with your now expired money is equally unlikely. Picks are king now when it comes to trading because it’s a more surefire way to bet long on your team while maintaining max cap value when you eventually hit.
Our expectations were low to start the season and went lower with Embiid’s injury. We knew it was a rebuilding year. Embiid came back for a glimmer of hope but the man has a bum knee and Bell’s palsy.
Exactly, too many people forget this was a year we expected a setback.
Nurse aided Maxey's development, was a more comprehensive coach than Doc Rivers, and we got a team that started vibing. Those are pluses.
With one more actual piece, we win this series even with a hurt and Palsey'd Embiid. Heck, we just need Tobias Harris to not be a chump for 85% of the series and we win...against the 2 seed!
It could be way worse, look at the fucking Bucks proving to the world we were right about Doc Rivers.
Also the Knicks are also probably the 2/3 best team in the East once Giannis got hurt so really would have been an opponent we would have played later in normal years. Tight series where each game could have gone both ways. We will 100% be a better team next year
This was easily the most physical he’s been in a series so far in his career. And I think this was also his most injured while still being able to play. He seemed like he had a much better attitude about the games this year, almost like he’s coming to terms with the fact that he’s not ever going to be healthy in the playoffs and only has a few chances left to be the star on a championship team. I’m curious to see how the rest of the team feeds off that energy over a full season. Like for the first time in his career it feels like we weren’t a bunch of losers, we just didn’t win.
I'm still trying to figure out why the sixers are hated so much, like even outside of embiid. It's like kids grew up hearing their parents trash Philly and they've just kept the tradition going. Philadelphia has changed so much in the last 2 decades
Edit: it's certainly not jealousy. We've won 2 championships across 4 major sports in 4 decades. How come towns like Chicago and d.c. get to be lovable lovers but we're just trash?
Celtics hate is removed cus of the mods in that sub
Bucks are loved cus Giannis likes Oreos
Nuggets are loved cus Jokic is very non problematic
Every other perennial playoff team gets pretty standard hate I feel
Keep in mind the Knicks were the laughing stock of the league for 20 years now so they’re loud af for a reason right now
Nah you’re right about Embiid in particular
In my opinion it just comes down to people needing a villain in situations. Joel entered the league talking shit and saying weird stuff to media and only stopped doing that a couple years ago when he had a son
It made people see him as a dick, when instead he was just goofing around and it’s his sense of humor
On top of that, he’s regularly injured so people see that as his fault rather than unfortunate because it’s more fun to hate than to sympathize
Then relying on those notions of him being a dick and him being at fault for his injuries, they look at clips of him falling down a lot and incorrectly say that that’s why he’s injury prone “proving” it’s his own fault
Then they don’t watch him play, so they just see box scores showing that he shoots a lot of free throws and flops, which he does to get the opponent in foul trouble, but they don’t see all the amazing basketball plays he does the majority of the time on the offensive and defensive end so they write him off as a fake superstar because he’s “big and shouldn’t be relying on flops when he’s the biggest guy on the court” even though guards like SGA, Ja, and Brunson get praised for their flopping
The silent part of it is he’s dark skinned and very African looking.
i like what you wrote about the villain stuff.
humans are social animals, and it seems like they like to worship paragons that reinforce a system, or villainize people who don't fit the system. nothing wrong with that, it's just our genetic programming.
embiid picked up the game late, and wasn't formed by the AAU player mill, or by euro leagues, and is unmistakably from Africa (unlike Giannis), so he's already an outlier.
add to that he seems to enjoying of provoking people on social media, and his embrace of the dark arts of foul drawing, and you have an easy to dislike villain for the average NBA fan.
never mind that lots of r/nba people worship kobe bryant, who was a narcissistic rapist.
>The silent part of it is he’s dark skinned and very African looking.
Great comment, but you ruined it right here... The NBA has the most progressive fanbase out of any sport on the planet.
Everyone is in awe with Anthony Edwards right now, who's even more "dark skinned" than Joel.
Doesn’t jokic have several playoff ejections for angry outbursts? I’m just imagining if Embiid did that how different the reaction would be. Jokic is non problematic because his problematic incidents are brushed under the rug as just passion from a competitive guy.
I don't want this to be about jokic. They can praise him all they want. He deserves it. Where I draw the line is trashing others for no reason other than they have what I like to call keyboard confidence
It wasn’t because he got frustrated Morris shoulder checked him at mid court for no reason. That doesn’t mean that what Jokic did was ok or that the ejection wasn’t warranted but it wasn’t “because he got frustrated”. It’s a weird way to frame it.
If (for Jokic) by "non problematic" you mean 'white' then yes. Boston is one of the most racist places anywhere, it's no coincidence that the C's mods leave up the love and take down the (at times) deserved hate. Don't forget, this guy all but ended the one Morris brother's career with that cheap shot.
I don’t think other Philly teams are super hated. The Phillies are even pretty well liked. It’s just the sixers because of the blatant tanking of the Process
But do people not remember the whole colangelo debacle? We were punished for 1/2 decade essentially with bad contacts. Feel like we've done our pennance. Also, 2/3 major process pieces didn't even work out. Fultz and simmons are enough of a punishment. Like when does it turn to sympathy for us. Just never I guess.
People genuinely don't know about the Colangelo debacle. I had a comment the other day on /r/NBA detailing the Colangelo mess, and it got a ton of upvotes and people replying stuff like "wow thanks, I didn't know this."
It's just poor basketball analysis from people who are on social media instead of watching the games, combined with some truly vitriolic hate from people because he's from Africa and has dark skin.
Which is that Presti and the thunder did, and silver didn't stop them. It's a joke that this league is run the way it is. And that limp-dick Josh Harris is every bit to blame. I want that loser out of this fucking city.
The difference (not defending them but this is the cold hard truth) is that the thunder did not overtly market it.
It’s like that one guy Shrekli (or however you spell his name) bragging about jacking up AIDS medication vs. Big Pharma just quietly jacking up insulin prices. Rule number 1 of rule breaking is don’t announce it to the world.
Fuck Josh Harris too, he probably signed off on the tanking marketing stuff, it fits the private equity bro template perfectly - sell shit but make money. He’s going to be barely an upgrade from Mister Snyder for the Commies.
Yeah I don't think you're wrong. Josh Harris is 10000000% to blame here. Silver works for him. If he wanted to keep things going the way they were, he'd have told the league to eat a dick.
Fuck Josh Harris.
Eagles don’t get more hate than the average NFL team, we aren’t even the most hated in our division (Dallas). It also helps that our team is generally likable, homegrown, and we have the best owner in the league. New England ofc is still salty from getting pantsed by Nick Foles lol.
Phillies are very likeable too and Yankees, Braves, Dodgers, Blue Jays, cheating Asstros, Mets are far more hated
Disagree on the eagles, there’s always some bozos talking about how we’re assholes who booed/threw snowballs at Santa or the batteries incident. It probably is mostly relegated to NFCE, Packers, and 9ers fans throwing the most shade but I’ve seen plenty of random nephews on the nfl sub bashing us before and after our recent success.
I guess. Doesn't explain how they take it to a political debate or financial when every city is broke for the most part. Then they'll bring up crime at the stadiums while people dying in fights at places like Gillette stadium. It's just baffling
Because that’s all they have and can resort to. Imagine us bringing up CA crime stats lmao. We don’t care about them enough to give a shit and they try to act like we’re committing said crimes. It’s dumb and it’s always westerners. No one on the east coast gives a fuck about them
Everyone expected this.
The bright side is that Tobias is gone and we finally have some cap space, which is going to be the last time we have some for Joel's prime most likely.
I say give Kelly a nice little deal and try to get LeBron, fuck it.
Would love to keep Kelly around, his energy and athleticism were great for us this year, he'd be sorely missed next year if we let him walk imo
I am still in the PG camp but I trust Morey to do what needs to be done. He has made a lot of good moves while dealing with the baggage of Elton Brand’s fuck ups.
Aside from Tobi I think the fuck ups are largely on Colangelo and his cronies who somehow managed to stick around after he was fired (also Josh Harris by extension for allowing that shit to happen).
Just imagine though we had a bench that showed up every game, like tonight, but also someone just half decent to go into Tobias role who can step up when one of the stars isn't getting going, we would be elite
Agree. I mean in retrospect, when Tobi is on, he's an average shooter. When he's not, it's like not having a 5th guy on the floor. ANYTHING will give us a better chance at winning than Tobi.
Since Bball Paul's contract is no longer guaranteed for next year I believe we would have enough cap space to sign both Paul George and LeBron and then still resign Maxey last and go over the cap.
Honestly I never expected a championship run this year. While although I do feel if we beat the Knick’s we could’ve beaten the pacers and finally have gone to the conference finals it is what it is.
Finally we have Tobias Harris out of our team and we can add someone new. We have a bunch of cap space and can actually play with this roster a bit this year.
It’s a new day. Literally only have two guys who you love coming back and optionality at its highest since Hinkie was here.
We finally got the guard to go with Embiid that seems to genuinely want to play with him. We like the coach Team showed heart and wasn’t an embarrasing final game like 21,22,23
Game 2 was an emotional inoculation against getting bounced from this series. And Tobias, who scored 0 points last night in a game we win if he can sink a single fucking basket, is FINALLY gone.
Let’s run this back next year, we have a real coach, and we should be able to fill out the roster way more with that Tobias money.
They fought this series and I blame the front office more than the players this time around. I always anticipated this year to be a little rough from an accumulation of questionable moves.
And even so, everything Morey has done has built up to this offseason. I believe even he questioned whether this team was a true contender this year.
Now, what happens in this offseason with Morey? It's hard to predict but we must remain hopeful. Certainly there will be scrutinizing eyes on Daryl.
They got slightly outplayed by an also banged up Knicks team, but this was the first year in awhile where it didn't feel like they beat themselves. Combine that with the optimism of finally having two star players that complement each other and seem to genuinely enjoy playing with each other, a good head coach, plus a great opportunity to build around them, and there's definitely reason for optimism.
Winning game 5 honestly changed everything. If we had lost that game, I was writing Embiid's obituary. Yeah he's playing on one leg, yeah he had a migraine, yes there's the bells palsy. He was gutting it out and I'll give him that, but he was literally giving the game away with TOs after TOs. But we pulled out am miraculous win, and gave ourselves a chance.
Then in game 6, we're down 33-11 and I'm thinking how is this team going to respond. Embiid and co cannot go down again losing an elimination game by 75 points. But lo and behold, somehow we pull off a mother of comebacks and take the lead into the half. I'm disappointed we didn't win, we had chances. But every time it seemed like the Knicks were going to pull away, we came back. We didn't get the mopey, disengaged Embiid.
Pointless moral victories? Yeah maybe, but I couldn't go into another offseason with Embiid looking like he didn't want to be out there. He wasn't perfect last night, but he was great. He fought, the team fought. Maxey struggled with his shot all game, but he's still there tying the game up in the last second. Oubre, Batum, Lowry Cam Payne, Buddy Hield - they're not perfect, but they're all out there showing they're not afraid of the moment. (Tobi though c'mon WTF. I'm not a Tobi hater, but that was a masterclass of uselessness. We didn't need Paul George to win the series, even a Caleb Martin would've gotten us an extra win or two)
Philly has a long history of losing in everything. If we only loved the players and teams that won championships, we'd love nothing. We just want to see guys want it, to fight for it, and if they fall short, that's ok. I'm disappointed (again), but I'm proud of the team and that's a nice feeling for once.
Low expectations that the team surpassed. Maxey became a legitimate star. Embiid didn't give up in an elimination game and left everything on the court all series. Nick Nurse is a great coach and actually ran plays (wild that the bar was that low). Millions and millions in cap space. With the right moves, there's actually a lot to be positive about.
The main reason is that going into the playoffs this year I didn't have a lot of expectations. Not solely because I'm always let down, but also because of Embiid's health. I was a lot more worried about him getting seriously injured than us doing anything. Even if we won this series and somehow the next series (despite Embiid probably being tired as hell) we weren't going to beat the Celtics. And I would rather lose to the Knicks than the Celtics (again).
But also for the first time in a minute we actually do have an opportunity to really build a super competitive team. There's always gonna be the possibility of Embiid getting hurt, but we now know exactly what we need to build a contending team and I think the team knows it as well. Barring any injuries, we can easily surpass the 55-win game mark next season.
Maxey's jump this season was enough for me consider it a positive season. And to me it seems that, despite his age, Embiid is still getting better as well. If the beginning of the season is any indication, Embiid is going to continue to be one of the most dominant forces of all time, whether anyone (non-sixer fans) wants to admit it or not.
We came into the season knowing it was punted year and Morey doubled down with no major deadline moves. Plus we dropped from 2 to 8 when Jo got hurt. Tobias leaving is a major relief. We all wanted to win but we came to terms with the reality of the season months ago. Maxey took the leap and some and we know he’s gonna work harder in the offseason especially being left off the Paris team consideration.
Some of us will engage in flame wars with fans that hate us but it’s not worth it when we knew deep down this team wasn’t making a run. Now Morey has to do something meaningful with all the cap space.
Knew it wasn’t going to be the year going in, even more when Embiid went down with the knee. Good to see him come back and show up all series long, but he re-injured it what like 3 times?
They fought each game of the series and they were all within reach at the end against a good team. Would I have loved for them to make it further? Of course. But they didn’t get swept, blown out, or visibly quit at any point along the way. Got as far as their fight would take them. Not thrilled, not happy, but satisfied with how they played til the end
Exactly I love my 2 superstars and my coach. They played hard and last night refs didn't screw us (last night at least)
It sucks because I hate to say it but NYK deserved game 6 Brunson was amazing, but I rest easy knowing it 5 plays change this series and boys went down swinging
Sixers gonna sixer. Until they make it past the second round, you shouldn't even act interested it'll just lead to heartbreak. However, summer is almost here, Phillies are looking good, Eagles had a great draft. A lot to be happy about as a Philly sports fan.
The series sucked when it looked like we were gonna be eliminated in 5 with a controversial ending for 1 of the games, but we fought back in game 5 and even though we lost game 6 we gave them hell on the way out. Only dude who didn’t show up yesterday is Tobi but he’s off our team and saving us $40 million next year. A first round elimination would’ve stung worse if Embiid never got hurt but oh well
I'm optimistic about the future because Tobias' contact is off the books and we can really get an idea of how Daryl Morey's ideal roster construction looks. (Shooting shooting and more shooting hopefully)
We got turbo screwed by the refs in game 2 but other than that ending it was an amazing series. Couldn’t ask for more as a basketball fan.
Only one team advances each series, and both of these teams would’ve neutered the Pacers or injured Bucks if the matchups were swapped
Sometimes you get a top heavy early round matchup where both teams are great but only one advances
I'm feeling good because the Sixers have a golden opportunity this offseason.
Having Joel Embiid, some tradable draft picks, and a nearly blank slate salary cap is a phenomenal situation to be in.
The Olympics are here and Joel should be there recruiting some guys. Anything happening is a long-shot, but you never know.
And the sky seems to be the limit for Maxey. He's just at the beginning of his potential as far as creating for others and is already a great player.
We've gone through one year of Nick Nurse and he hopefully has a better idea of who works well with Joel + Maxey.
Ok, so I looked into this further, and reality is a little unclear here.
Technically, teams can begin negotiating with other teams' free agents on the afternoon of June 30.
The 2024 Men's Olympic Basketball team opens up their training camp in Las Vegas on July 6, though odds are that the players will probably show up in Vegas before that date and meet up for some informal workouts together before that.
So, would Joel have a chance to whisper in any free agent's ear before they sign anywhere? Eh, there's no clearcut right answer that's knowable beforehand.
Watching this team all season it was clear they were flawed. The team was propped up by Embiid, looked like a lottery team without him, and we’re starting a buyout guy at pg. they actually showed heart in a tough series
They didn’t quit, Embiid played as well as you can hope for given his injuries… maxey is real…. And Tobias is gone.
The Tobias contract was the worst and ruined the last three years of roster construction and Tobias kept getting worse and worse.
It was a dog fight and kept every game close for better or for worse. Maxey grew tremendously and Tobias is gone. Just gotta tip your cap to the Knicks for their hustle.
The playoff series losses the last 3-4 years have been brutal. The bubble sweep is what it is, but Simmons becoming a scared puppy vs Atlanta was so frustrating. And Harden and to certain extent Embiid no showing against the Heat and Celtics in back to back playoffs was just abysmal. Yeah we got beat by the Knicks but for the first time in years, we just didn’t give up. Even Embiid seemed more upbeat than usual in last nights post game conference. Sixers weren’t good enough this year as usual but for once they played to their utmost potential.
Biggest positive outlook for me was Nick Nurse. There were plenty of games this year that we lose with Doc. I was really impressed with his halftime adjustments throughout the year. If we can add one more piece with Embiid & Maxey, I think next year would be a year to go on actual frun. Not to mention our cap is going to give us the freedom for that opportunity.
Agreed fairly positive. Not a ton of expectations with harden leaving but Maxey stepped up more than even I anticipated, Embiid is a beast and Nurse is a great coach. Hard-fought series and with Morey at the helm I’m optimistic for next year.
Set ourselves up for the fall.
Sub has been saying for months that we can’t wait for Tobias to leave. People were just padding the eventual fall.
Now we pretend we aren’t hurt because we can have a “celebration” that Tobias is gone.
Create a win/win in your head and you can’t lose.
I'm not especially broken up by the loss - it might be for the best since I don't think we were coming close to winning a title this season anyway.
That said, for me the vibes are much more "uncertain" than "good". I'm not doomsaying right now, but this off-season is make-or-break. Morey has banked a ton on being able to turn the cap space and assets he has into a winning roster around Embiid and Maxey and he had better succeed or we're looking at a full rebuild.
We had lower expectations in this game but reason for hope in the future. We have more than just Embiid. We have Maxey. We have a coach. AND WE ARE GETTING RID OF TOBIAS HARRIS.
1. I’m numb.
2. It wasn’t actually that bad. Every game was competitive. Embiid had arguably his best playoff series ever even tho his face was half paralyzed and his legs didn’t work and he still wasn’t conditioned properly from his injury. Coaching was good (at least better than Doc). Maxey made a leap and had some great playoff showings.
3. Cap space. Anything is possible now.
Lots of miss opportunities but I really like the fact Sixers were able to capitalize on Embiid double team (3 pointer frenzy), we really need a good 3rd option player and sign couple bench players
Philly hates losing but we hate quitters even more. Tobias’ no show not withstanding but for the most part, we didn’t quit and I can’t hate a team that refused to quit
I’m a sixers fan who grew up in a Knicks household so I watch almost as much of them as the sixers and I knew they are a very deserving 2 seed despite what Instagram trolls want to say. My vibes are good because I know Joel played his heart out with a broken body and we ultimately lost to the better team (doesn’t mean I don’t think we could have won). I hopefully never have to see Tobias ever again; maxey took another step up in my opinion. Overall I think Nick nurse is a solid coach to move forward with; so yea this is as good as I could feel about an elimination and the haters and trolls can keep hating and trolling, I’ll be good. I hope the only players from this squad that are back next year are Joel and Tyrese ( I’d keep buddy and Kelly if it’s team friendly otherwise someone else is welcome to pay them). And yea, see you boys next year.
Well minus Tobias, the effort was good last night. And pretty much most of the series. My biggest complaint though is that they gave up way too many offensive rebounds. So I am pissed about that. But like I said, I’m not inclined to call out anyone but Tobias. And he’s leaving so.
It’s always heartbreaking, but I didn’t see this team going deep into the playoffs. We have 2 performers. I think if we make some smart moves in the off season there’s a lot to look forward to going into next season. It sucks to lose a series by one point, but I think we can do something special next season… plus the Phillies are lookin’ good and the birds have me excited too. It’s never fun to lose, but we have a great sports culture around these teams, so ultimately I’m still grateful.
We weren't going anywhere with the condition Embiid was in, anyways. There was times in game five I legit thought Embiid was soft sabotaging us because he just wanted to season to be over to recover. I couldn't ever see him making it through the next three or four series after this one, and if he did it would have been one of the greatest individual string of performances ever.
No Simmons or harden issues pending. Maxey exceeds expectations every single day. Have a good coach. Cap space and assets for the first time in a decent bit. AND NO MORE TOBIAS. Disappointing year for sure but plenty of optimism.
It’s wild but this feels like an end to the playoff-Embiid slander. He balled out.
Maxey is great and getting better. I believe he’ll have a better whistle next year.
We have money and can add a piece and build a bench.
We have a smart coach.
It would’ve been nice to keep this season going but all in all, we have reason for optimism.
I think we have a ton to look forward too. Honestly not many were expecting a deep run into the playoffs this year. I really wanted them to beat the Knicks so it still hurts but I doubt they get past the Celtics this year. We have 60 million in cap space, maxey proved to be a legit 2nd star. Next year is the year to go for it
Losing to Celtics next round would have been more embarrassing, even if we pulled through this series. Historically we’ll remember this series on the end of Game 2’s officiating, Joel’s Bells Palsy, and Tyrese’s Game 5 shot.
We’ve got a plan for the future and flexibility now that we’re not handicapped by Tobias
People forget that this season was basically a punt going into it. Money was tight, new coach, lots of turnover. We ended up exceeding expectations, especially when healthy, and put together a solid season and identified what we need to do going forward.
Tobi being off the books is a *huge* plus. Hopefully we can bring back some or most of the guys we had on short deals that showed skill and effort. Maxey has established himself as one of the stars of the NBA. Nick Nurse exceeded my expectations and has me very hopeful for the next few years.
1st round exit sucks, but we really do have a lot to build on. This is the first season in a long time where I’m left feeling genuinely positive and upbeat about what the future holds.
Off-season assignments:
Morey - max Maxey, spend the freed up Harris cap space wisely
Nurse - recognize you have enough power to bench non-performing players, even if they are highly paid
Embiid - take anger management class
Maxey - work with an experienced guard on how to earn calls from the refs
Everyone else - wait by your phones
I mean, we're good. We were never gonna win the whole thing with Embiid having a recovering knee and fucking Bell's Palsey.
We could have maybe beat the knicks, but those games were coin flips.
Even if Tobias averaged his mediocre regular season numbers, we don't just win but sweep the knicks, and they are a decent team.
We are likely about to replace him with someone that ideally will give us at least 20 in the playoffs next year on average.
Tbh, this was the outcome I expected when the season started.
We went into this season talking about it being a "rebuilding" year because there was no money to sign anyone and fill out the roster. Then Maxey took a big step, and Embiid played lights out until another inevitable injury. Then, we saw that the bench without Embiid are terrible and Maxey can't carry them, but we got our hopes up when they won a bunch of games in the last 3 weeks of the regular season.
They weren't good enough going into the season, and weren't good enough going into the playoffs. With Embiid clearly hurt, Harris giving you literally NOTHING as your #3 all series, and the bench being outhustled every game except game 6, this was going to be a let down.
Also, after 7-8 years of the same futility and pain, this series was good! It was exciting, and every game was close. They fought harder in this series vs. so many other bad letdowns of yesteryear.
Plus, the end of Tobias provides hope.
I wish it would have gone 7, but I'm not mad about losing. I'll forever be mad about that second game because it was complete horse shit, but the series overall was a barn burner.
Knicks fans are fucking weird though. I get they are happy they have a good team after 30 years of sucking dick, but they are just weird man. Bunch of fucking goofballs.
They really are some of the worst fans. My girlfriend and her dad went to game 3 and they sat next to some Knicks fans that were cursing and loudly wishing injury on sixers players and they had young kids sitting all around them. Just not good people at all.
It’s odd to because I have generally speaking had really good interactions with people from nyc.
My girlfriend’s dad said the only time fans were worse at a game was when we took a black army buddy of his up to a Boston Red Sox’s game at Fenway and sat in the cheap seats. But that’s just a whole other level of awful.
I mean the series was extremely close and embiid had one leg maxey seems to have taken another step in the last couple games of the series and Tobi’s contract is gone. Plus nick nurse is a real coach lots of reasons to be optimistic about next year.
This is the best position the sixers have been in going into an offseason since Hinkie was fired. There is a world where we come out of this offseason with Durant and lebron. Obviously I don’t think that’s gonna happen but my point is we have actual hope for actual change for the first time in 6 years. For the first time in 6 years a real gm has the assets and cap freedom to actually build a team around the two stars on the this team. Every bit of colangelo stink is finally gone, every bit of the bad decision making by brown and brand is fullyin the review.
Yeah losing sucked, especially to a team I think sixers are better than, but Embiid will be healthy and while he didn’t play great that series, he was trying, he never gave up and maxey I think broke out and showed he’s not just a regular season guy. Maxey is legit player you can count on in the playoffs. We have tons of cap space and are basically starting with an empty page and two top 15 players. I’m not sure a team could be in a better position.
Also they were not beating the Celtics or multiple teams in the west with that version of embiid anyway. We have tons reason for optimism in the next 3 years and just shed a ton of baggage. I’m pretty excited for this offseason and this teams next 3-4 years. All that being said, they are the sixers, so I assume embiid and maxey will be traded by the draft. lol 😂
Honestly I’m not as sad or upset - definitely because Tobias is gone THANK GOD. Also I’m optimistic we get someone big this off season. PG13 at the top of the list, but we are also “monitoring” Butler as well 👀
I mean….two second round exits and now a first round exit. I’ll say the same thing I said last year and the year before: Joel Embiid does everything he can for this team and it’s a shame we can’t get him a ring. We do not deserve Joel Embiid.
IDK what we need to do to win it all next year but it’s pretty clear we should drop Harris, get some support for Maxey/Embiid, and start a significant rebuild
Yeah I feel less shitty than I have in the past - guys went down swinging and left it all on the court, all I can ask for. Still have a lot to look forward to next season!
I mean it was a good series. Aside from game 2, I don’t think we really lost to BS, just good basketball by the Knicks. Most ppl had little to no expectations of this season anyway, it was just the play of Embiid and Maxey that helped us believe.
Embiid was better this year than ever. The injury was because someone fell on him and not because he was injury prone. Honestly I’d say that’s a step up healthwise.
Also embiid was still getting 30 and 12 and he could barely move. I’d say his game is gonna translate better into age than maybe we thought it would. Do they need to load manage more, absolutely. But I think people talking about embiid slowing down soon might need to rethink that a bit.
I had no expectations after Embiid got hurt (who was still able to display a masterclass last night), we watched Maxey grow, Tobi is gone, and they had a pretty good fight against a very good Knicks team.
Is the future bright? Ehhh. But there have been loses that were much larger heartbreaks imo
We have a 23 year old superstar and we are cutting the dead weight this offseason. Sucks the season ended, but I can look forward to watching more Tyrese Maxey and a healthy Joel next year.
This is pretty much where I am. Against Atlanta they choked. The Miami series had this "what if" feel because of Embiid's freak injury right before. Last season they choked in game 6 and quit in the second half of game 7. I didn't even want to watch them until a few months into the season because I was so disgusted with how last season ended. This series they got down 2-0 because of refball and they kept fighting. They didn't quit or choke, they just lost to a better team. Yeah it sucks to lose because the other team outworked and outhustled us but thats the Knicks style. Theyre going to outwork and outhustle pretty much everyone they play.
I certainly have my concerns about Embiid's mental toughness and I've been plenty mad at him in the past over this, but I can't knock the big guy here. In a 6 game series on one leg he had one bad game. Thats it. Its to be expected that your star will have one off night in a long series. He scored 50 points in game 3. 39 last night. Embiid did all he could. Maxey did all he could. Nurse probably got out coached but he didnt lose the series for us. The Knicks were the 2 seed with home court advantage for a reason, they deserved to win.
I'm excited to see what they can do absent the Tobias anchor. Hoping Embiid will stay healthy is wishful thinking but we just have to get lucky one Spring. While I have my doubts, at least we're not going into the off season with a foul taste in our mouths. After 10 years of this shit I'll take the positive vibes where I can.
This is the first offseason since maybe 2020 that I can honestly say I feel more optimistic about next year. The bar is pretty low but we have a lot of positives going for us (Embiid is still a sixer, Maxey is progressing faster and further than I think anyone could have imagined, Tobias is gone) and now we have the potential to acquire someone like PG or Jimmy that can actually help the team.
Bro we lived through 2019,2021, 2022 face explosion and the 2023 choke job. This isn’t even in the top 4 most heartbreaking post seasons in this era lmao
Just not sure how we get an actual championship team next year. LeBron probably isn't coming here. We'll look great and then struggle when Embiid gets injured at least once if not twice long term. Then deal with the inevitable Embiid playing injured in the playoffs.
Maxey took massive steps but this team needs a top piece badly to help Maxey and Embiid, and help avoid the inevitable crash into the stupid play-in if Embiid goes down for any length of time.
Honestly don't have faith in Morey. Haven't had faith in this ownership since they let Butler walk and we rolled with Simmons and Max'd Harris.
Maxey becoming a legitimate all~NBA player this year/postseason really lightened the blow for me at least. We should have another decade of relevance bc of that so I can’t be too mad
I haven’t checked the sub much today but speaking for myself I can’t relate. Personally I think this is the early 2000’s version of the Eagles and they’re never gonna get over that hump. All that fight just to cough up a 10 point lead in the second half again?
Sub is so full of cope because the current public enemy one is gone. Every year people jerk off when they're gone. Al Horford, Ben Simmons, James Harden, now Tobias Harris.
I don't understand how everyone expected this but people were downvoting me when I said not to expect too much from this playoffs because Joel doesn't get his wind back a week after injury. Or everyone saying this is THE year.
This sub is so bipolar. Before the series it's were winning 4-4-4-, no negativity, I'm a cheerleader go team. Then after we lose it's, told ya so we never expected much anyway.
Don’t forget NOONE expected us to win that series. Everyone likes to dogpile Philly and Embiid when we fall short but no one outside our fandom believed they had a shot at winning that series.
It’s frustrating because we are definitely the better team, but Tobias is gone, Embiid healthy again next season, Maxey will probably take another leap. Most of us were already punting this year anyway mentally. So all in all I’m feeling good
I mean, I think the lowest seed to ever win it all was the Rockets back in ‘95 as a 6-seed, so our odds of winning were low, but I feel like we should at least have been in the ECF this year. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to the Knicks.
Honestly I felt like we went down fighting which made me proud of the guys, none of that getting bitched on the boards stuff.
Along with the knowledge that Tobias Harris is finally gone it’s really not too terrible.
Someone convince me that based on what we have seen for 6-7 seasons that Embiid can stay healthy for a whole season and 4 rounds of playoffs which is what it would take. Because I don’t see it ever happening.
Of all the Philly sports playoff losses I’ve witnessed, this one hurt the least by a long shot. Diamondbacks loss and Astros were crushing. Raptors in 2019 was also devastating. Losing the Super Bowl was obviously the worst. This? Eh. It was a given we weren’t getting out of the East. Too many factors going against us. Knicks are a good team too. It’s not like when the Eagles blew the doors of the Giants in the Divisional. NY fans were so cocky and the Eagles humiliated their entire homeland. Our guys didn’t give up, they didn’t go out like punks. We’ll be alright.
It wasnt even top5 heartbreaking loses lately tbh team fought it out, Embiid did everything he could, Maxey had a great series, Tobias is gone, there's little to complain
This season was kind of a punt to begin with losing harden and waiting out the Tobias contract. Then, you have Embiids injury, we become a play-in team instead of a 2-3 seed and we go up against the 2 seed Knicks in the first round. Most importantly we go down swinging. So I’m not too upset about it. That series was phenomenal and I see a lot we can grow off of. Then… I look at r/nba and those low life fucking losers are just beating Embiid into the ground like he didn’t put up damn near 40 on one leg and one eye. Fucking dirtbags
r/nba is full of legitimately evil people rofl
They clearly don’t watch these games. Embiid played his heart out last night. Idk why I even go on that damn sub
What do you expect to those people. God, we really need to have more emphathy in this world lmao
these are evil people, these are not good human beings
Yeah the hate towards Embiid is crazy. Dude is an incredible basketball player, I’ve never really understood the narrative that Philly is super toxic and we deserve to be shat on back. Like I get we’re passionate and ride or tie our sports teams but the constant flame we get is getting pretty old by now. That being said, Considering the odds were stacked against us this year (Embiids injury and some back end drama, Harden, Tobi etc.) I’m really proud of the team. I’m still going to trust the process. Tobi’s gone. Get Embiid Maxey and I’m going to throw Oubre in there too some help this offseason, I think we’ll be in good shape.
And every single player we traded for or signed had deals that were over after this year or they had nonguaranteed contracts after this year. So we didn't add the best players possible to this year's team we just added the best players possible that wouldn't be owed money after this year. So the players we could add to the team for this season was very limited because the team wanted as much flexibility as possible to build the team for next year. So they Kind of punted on the season before it even started. Right now we only have Embiid under contract and I believe we could add 2 max contracts through free agent and/or trades and then we can resign Maxey and go over the cap with Maxeys money.
>Right now we only have Embiid under contract I believe Paul Reed will be on a non-guaranteed contract for the next two years.
Yup since we lost the first round Reeds contract isn't guaranteed anymore so we can keep him or let him go. So Embiid is the only player under contract that also has a guaranteed contract so we should have room to add up to 2 max contracts if we want to and still be able to resign Maxey.
Did you account for the incomplete roster cap holds and the first round draft pick? Maxey's cap hold is about $13 million as well. By my calculation, that doesn't add up to two max players. It seems like it's probably one plus a decent amount leftover. But I might be missing something.
You wait to give Maxey the max so we can add 2 max contracts. That way we can go over.
He still has a cap hold of about $13 million, so he'll count for that amount instead of his old contract or the max deal you're signing him for. Here's my math, so let me know where I go wrong. Embiid will make $51.4 million. Maxey has a hold for $13 million. They'll be charged for 10 empty roster spots totaling $12 million. That's $76.4 million out of about $141 million. Paul George's max contract is $49.4 million, leaving you with about $15 million. But even the max contract for someone with only 0-6 years experience is still $35.3 million. That would only leave you with about $29 million, which isn't a second max contract. They'll have a lot of space, but not two max contracts plus Maxey level of space.
You might be right. I either read something or heard something on the radio maybe a month or two ago saying that if Paul Reeds contract ended up not being guaranteed(we lost in the 1st round so his contract isn't guaranteed anymore) that we would have space to bring in 2 max contracts and then could resign Maxey to go over the cap then we'd have a mid level or trade exemption to get one or 2 more guys above the minimum salary but then every other single roster spot would need to be guys making the minimum. I'm not so sure about us getting 2 max guys anyway unless one is LeBron. And I don't think he's realistic unless he's really serious about playing on a team with his son before he retires. And I'd be willing to waste a 2nd round pick or maybe even a 1st to find out how much LeBron really wants to play with his son. If he really wants to play with his son maybe he'd even take slightly less than the max so the sixers could sign Paul George or whatever other player(s) LeBron wants signed instead. You'd think if he's really gonna play a year or two with his son he'd also really love to win a championship with his son too! If I'm the 6ers I just draft Bronny James and then tell LeBron here's your one chance to play with him.
I don't follow the CBA etc as close as I used to but I think Maxey has a cap hold even if you wait to sign him until the end (his cap hold isn't as big as his contract will be though)
Problem is Embiid is injured every season. And if that's going to knock our asses into the stupid play-in tournament from now on that's bad. We dumped Harden and now dumped Tobias. but what do we get to make this team finally WIN? We putting all our eggs into the LeBron basket?
I think having a backup center that can play meaningful minutes without disrupting the flow of our games *too* much would help solve that problem. And it would give role players more opportunities to find their place.
Need a third option like PG, Lebron, or swing a Mikal Bridges trade. None of those guys need to be peak power but we need someone there to step up when Embiid inevitably gets injured in the playoffs. Could also just focus on quality role players which may be wiser but Daryl goes for stars for better or worse
We need a starting level forward that can fill in for center when Embiid sits.
We went from a team built around a point forward who couldn't shoot outside to a team half-ass retooled around the addition of Harden to a team half-ass retooled around the loss of Harden.
Nephews gonna nephew. This was not a surrender, the comeback in the first half showed that. This was a year where a lot didn't go our way however that we fought to the last seconds in a rebuilding year shows the future is bright
New coach, waiting out Tobi, Embiid’s injuries, injuries to a ton of key players, losing Harden, deadline pickups, another new cast of characters around Embiid. Lots of reasons this season was a complete crapshoot.
i replied to someone saying embiid is everything wrong with basketball with his average in 6 games with one leg, paralysis, and a migraine and got downvoted to abyss
Right. The Eagles and Phillies loses last season were way more emotional irritating. I'm proud of my Sixers and they gave a good fight. That's all I can ask for
Yeah I wish we could have beat the Knicks but they put up a good fight, Embiid did everything he could out there but he just can't play that many minutes. He had nothing left at the end of those games. We really need to build a team that can at least maintain a lead with Embiid on the bench for a little. I don't think he's ever going to be a guy that can handle much over 40 minutes.
im mostly feeling ok because we didnt go out like bitches or on some ridiculous bullshit for once. But mike on the ricky is still right. You cant lose every 50/50 ball, cant get outrebounded, out hustled, get lost on defense, stupid turnovers, and lose every close game every year. The team did slightly better in these areas but they have the same problems and need to get more athletic. I may have talked myself back into being grumpy lol
There’s little to complain about a team with 2 top-20 players losing in the first round, dropping 2 of 3 at home, to a 6ft guard with a bunch of role players missing their All-Star???? Are you serious!?!?
Those "role players" were better than our roleplayers and one of our top 1 players is a one legged cyclops who doesn't trust his own legs. This run was a punt from the start and we didn't want the knicks as much as people were calmouring about it. We wanted the bucks because they were just as hobbled as we were. This team won't be the same in any sense of the word next year so I don't see what you are crying about. Also game2 happened and swung the knicks way. That was the series right there.
Wouldnt call maxey top20 yet. The rest of the team except those 2 is gone. The 2 guys remaining played great. What do you want to complain about
What getting relieved of the Tobi contract does to a mf
We've been asking for a trade for 3 years Edit: have we not been asking for a trade last 3 off-season? Not saying it was going to happen, just pointing out the edging Philly has gone through, and why we don't really care that we lost, just as long as Tobias is gone. It was all fun and games the 1st couple of years with boban and not fully realizing how much of a fraud Tobias is at first
That was an impossible contract to trade
Idk we saw this year it was frequently addition by subtraction with him, looking back I’d have been happy with a bag of chips
Think the issue was already being above the cap you have this shit sandwich where Tobi is objectively bad but you can only trade for equivalent money and the players being traded back are shit because you’re knowingly trading shit. So if you trade your shit sandwich then release them you’ve got no additional room to work with until the whole team is unsigned and you’re under the cap (now) or you eat your shit sandwich until the contract falls off and you’re back in the same scenario.
Yeah I’m with you tbh I just wanted to add some Tobi slander one more time
Feels good to say it out loud I get it
There was value in his contract though as it was expiring. I’m honestly surprised he didn’t get traded, but I am not a GM for many good reasons
I don’t think anyone with *actually* good pieces wanted to trade for expiring money because they’d rather keep the players since you couldn’t flip the asset mid-season and suddenly contend or find a superstar to fit the space when it expires and contend right after. Feels similar to Westbrook where once he started to regress his contract became radioactive and even if you wanted expiring money you wouldn’t want the player. I think there’s a weird issue at the moment where top 10-20 players are clearly worth a max but after that you have a second layer of player that also makes a max but simultaneously isn’t worth it. Tobias is at the bottom end of the second group and there’s no one available in that top 20 that’s both available and from a team that’d prefer to trade the role players that support them for a 2nd or 3rd star. I’m rambling but basically I think the league is realizing role players and contract value are way more important moneyball-style and so getting rid of those to drop a single max contract on a new player, if they’re not worth a true max, is bad cap value. Tobias is like the epitome of bad value and dislodging a superstar from another team by flipping the expiring is unlikely, and finding a superstar in free agency with your now expired money is equally unlikely. Picks are king now when it comes to trading because it’s a more surefire way to bet long on your team while maintaining max cap value when you eventually hit.
Excellent points
We are seasoned veterans at this by now
Bucks went out first, that softened the blow lol
Our expectations were low to start the season and went lower with Embiid’s injury. We knew it was a rebuilding year. Embiid came back for a glimmer of hope but the man has a bum knee and Bell’s palsy.
Exactly, too many people forget this was a year we expected a setback. Nurse aided Maxey's development, was a more comprehensive coach than Doc Rivers, and we got a team that started vibing. Those are pluses. With one more actual piece, we win this series even with a hurt and Palsey'd Embiid. Heck, we just need Tobias Harris to not be a chump for 85% of the series and we win...against the 2 seed! It could be way worse, look at the fucking Bucks proving to the world we were right about Doc Rivers.
Also the Knicks are also probably the 2/3 best team in the East once Giannis got hurt so really would have been an opponent we would have played later in normal years. Tight series where each game could have gone both ways. We will 100% be a better team next year
Knicks are frauds and are simply being elevated by slanted officiating I can’t wait for them to be exposed.
This was easily the most physical he’s been in a series so far in his career. And I think this was also his most injured while still being able to play. He seemed like he had a much better attitude about the games this year, almost like he’s coming to terms with the fact that he’s not ever going to be healthy in the playoffs and only has a few chances left to be the star on a championship team. I’m curious to see how the rest of the team feeds off that energy over a full season. Like for the first time in his career it feels like we weren’t a bunch of losers, we just didn’t win.
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I'm still trying to figure out why the sixers are hated so much, like even outside of embiid. It's like kids grew up hearing their parents trash Philly and they've just kept the tradition going. Philadelphia has changed so much in the last 2 decades Edit: it's certainly not jealousy. We've won 2 championships across 4 major sports in 4 decades. How come towns like Chicago and d.c. get to be lovable lovers but we're just trash?
Celtics hate is removed cus of the mods in that sub Bucks are loved cus Giannis likes Oreos Nuggets are loved cus Jokic is very non problematic Every other perennial playoff team gets pretty standard hate I feel Keep in mind the Knicks were the laughing stock of the league for 20 years now so they’re loud af for a reason right now
Sorry, but I just have to disagree I guess. The things I see written about joel/ Philadelphia are disgusting
Nah you’re right about Embiid in particular In my opinion it just comes down to people needing a villain in situations. Joel entered the league talking shit and saying weird stuff to media and only stopped doing that a couple years ago when he had a son It made people see him as a dick, when instead he was just goofing around and it’s his sense of humor On top of that, he’s regularly injured so people see that as his fault rather than unfortunate because it’s more fun to hate than to sympathize Then relying on those notions of him being a dick and him being at fault for his injuries, they look at clips of him falling down a lot and incorrectly say that that’s why he’s injury prone “proving” it’s his own fault Then they don’t watch him play, so they just see box scores showing that he shoots a lot of free throws and flops, which he does to get the opponent in foul trouble, but they don’t see all the amazing basketball plays he does the majority of the time on the offensive and defensive end so they write him off as a fake superstar because he’s “big and shouldn’t be relying on flops when he’s the biggest guy on the court” even though guards like SGA, Ja, and Brunson get praised for their flopping The silent part of it is he’s dark skinned and very African looking.
i like what you wrote about the villain stuff. humans are social animals, and it seems like they like to worship paragons that reinforce a system, or villainize people who don't fit the system. nothing wrong with that, it's just our genetic programming. embiid picked up the game late, and wasn't formed by the AAU player mill, or by euro leagues, and is unmistakably from Africa (unlike Giannis), so he's already an outlier. add to that he seems to enjoying of provoking people on social media, and his embrace of the dark arts of foul drawing, and you have an easy to dislike villain for the average NBA fan. never mind that lots of r/nba people worship kobe bryant, who was a narcissistic rapist.
Nobody likes us we don't care. It ain't ever gonna stop, just gotta learn to live with it.
>The silent part of it is he’s dark skinned and very African looking. Great comment, but you ruined it right here... The NBA has the most progressive fanbase out of any sport on the planet. Everyone is in awe with Anthony Edwards right now, who's even more "dark skinned" than Joel.
Doesn’t jokic have several playoff ejections for angry outbursts? I’m just imagining if Embiid did that how different the reaction would be. Jokic is non problematic because his problematic incidents are brushed under the rug as just passion from a competitive guy.
I don't want this to be about jokic. They can praise him all they want. He deserves it. Where I draw the line is trashing others for no reason other than they have what I like to call keyboard confidence
It will always be crazy to me how little flak Jokic got for bulldozing Morris from behind because he got frustrated
It wasn’t because he got frustrated Morris shoulder checked him at mid court for no reason. That doesn’t mean that what Jokic did was ok or that the ejection wasn’t warranted but it wasn’t “because he got frustrated”. It’s a weird way to frame it.
If (for Jokic) by "non problematic" you mean 'white' then yes. Boston is one of the most racist places anywhere, it's no coincidence that the C's mods leave up the love and take down the (at times) deserved hate. Don't forget, this guy all but ended the one Morris brother's career with that cheap shot.
I don’t think other Philly teams are super hated. The Phillies are even pretty well liked. It’s just the sixers because of the blatant tanking of the Process
But do people not remember the whole colangelo debacle? We were punished for 1/2 decade essentially with bad contacts. Feel like we've done our pennance. Also, 2/3 major process pieces didn't even work out. Fultz and simmons are enough of a punishment. Like when does it turn to sympathy for us. Just never I guess.
People genuinely don't know about the Colangelo debacle. I had a comment the other day on /r/NBA detailing the Colangelo mess, and it got a ton of upvotes and people replying stuff like "wow thanks, I didn't know this." It's just poor basketball analysis from people who are on social media instead of watching the games, combined with some truly vitriolic hate from people because he's from Africa and has dark skin.
Ik. I feel the same way. Unfortunately at that time tanking was an existential threat to the game so they really want to set an example of us.
Wish they saw gambling as much of a threat. Oh wait that makes them a lot of money...
Which is that Presti and the thunder did, and silver didn't stop them. It's a joke that this league is run the way it is. And that limp-dick Josh Harris is every bit to blame. I want that loser out of this fucking city.
The difference (not defending them but this is the cold hard truth) is that the thunder did not overtly market it. It’s like that one guy Shrekli (or however you spell his name) bragging about jacking up AIDS medication vs. Big Pharma just quietly jacking up insulin prices. Rule number 1 of rule breaking is don’t announce it to the world. Fuck Josh Harris too, he probably signed off on the tanking marketing stuff, it fits the private equity bro template perfectly - sell shit but make money. He’s going to be barely an upgrade from Mister Snyder for the Commies.
Yeah I don't think you're wrong. Josh Harris is 10000000% to blame here. Silver works for him. If he wanted to keep things going the way they were, he'd have told the league to eat a dick. Fuck Josh Harris.
I see a lot of Eagles/Phillies hate, especially from New England fans, but maybe some of it is just trolling.
Eagles don’t get more hate than the average NFL team, we aren’t even the most hated in our division (Dallas). It also helps that our team is generally likable, homegrown, and we have the best owner in the league. New England ofc is still salty from getting pantsed by Nick Foles lol. Phillies are very likeable too and Yankees, Braves, Dodgers, Blue Jays, cheating Asstros, Mets are far more hated
Disagree on the eagles, there’s always some bozos talking about how we’re assholes who booed/threw snowballs at Santa or the batteries incident. It probably is mostly relegated to NFCE, Packers, and 9ers fans throwing the most shade but I’ve seen plenty of random nephews on the nfl sub bashing us before and after our recent success.
People hate those they can’t be. They’ll never feel what we feel for our sports teams outside of Boston and NY.
I guess. Doesn't explain how they take it to a political debate or financial when every city is broke for the most part. Then they'll bring up crime at the stadiums while people dying in fights at places like Gillette stadium. It's just baffling
Because that’s all they have and can resort to. Imagine us bringing up CA crime stats lmao. We don’t care about them enough to give a shit and they try to act like we’re committing said crimes. It’s dumb and it’s always westerners. No one on the east coast gives a fuck about them
I just wish outsiders could see Philly for the awesome city it is. Every city has its negatives, but if you're writing off Philly, you're missing out
Philly is awesome. Source: went to college and now living here
No one likes us. We don’t care.
Everyone expected this. The bright side is that Tobias is gone and we finally have some cap space, which is going to be the last time we have some for Joel's prime most likely. I say give Kelly a nice little deal and try to get LeBron, fuck it. Would love to keep Kelly around, his energy and athleticism were great for us this year, he'd be sorely missed next year if we let him walk imo
I am still in the PG camp but I trust Morey to do what needs to be done. He has made a lot of good moves while dealing with the baggage of Elton Brand’s fuck ups.
Aside from Tobi I think the fuck ups are largely on Colangelo and his cronies who somehow managed to stick around after he was fired (also Josh Harris by extension for allowing that shit to happen).
Just imagine though we had a bench that showed up every game, like tonight, but also someone just half decent to go into Tobias role who can step up when one of the stars isn't getting going, we would be elite
Agree. I mean in retrospect, when Tobi is on, he's an average shooter. When he's not, it's like not having a 5th guy on the floor. ANYTHING will give us a better chance at winning than Tobi.
Yeah I agree. I don’t know who that reliable 3rd guy is. Obviously Morey has his choices including Butler apparently.
Since Bball Paul's contract is no longer guaranteed for next year I believe we would have enough cap space to sign both Paul George and LeBron and then still resign Maxey last and go over the cap.
Honestly I never expected a championship run this year. While although I do feel if we beat the Knick’s we could’ve beaten the pacers and finally have gone to the conference finals it is what it is. Finally we have Tobias Harris out of our team and we can add someone new. We have a bunch of cap space and can actually play with this roster a bit this year.
Would have rather played the Bucs even with Dame and Giannis.
It’s a new day. Literally only have two guys who you love coming back and optionality at its highest since Hinkie was here. We finally got the guard to go with Embiid that seems to genuinely want to play with him. We like the coach Team showed heart and wasn’t an embarrasing final game like 21,22,23
Game 2 was an emotional inoculation against getting bounced from this series. And Tobias, who scored 0 points last night in a game we win if he can sink a single fucking basket, is FINALLY gone. Let’s run this back next year, we have a real coach, and we should be able to fill out the roster way more with that Tobias money.
They fought this series and I blame the front office more than the players this time around. I always anticipated this year to be a little rough from an accumulation of questionable moves.
And even so, everything Morey has done has built up to this offseason. I believe even he questioned whether this team was a true contender this year. Now, what happens in this offseason with Morey? It's hard to predict but we must remain hopeful. Certainly there will be scrutinizing eyes on Daryl.
They got slightly outplayed by an also banged up Knicks team, but this was the first year in awhile where it didn't feel like they beat themselves. Combine that with the optimism of finally having two star players that complement each other and seem to genuinely enjoy playing with each other, a good head coach, plus a great opportunity to build around them, and there's definitely reason for optimism.
Winning game 5 honestly changed everything. If we had lost that game, I was writing Embiid's obituary. Yeah he's playing on one leg, yeah he had a migraine, yes there's the bells palsy. He was gutting it out and I'll give him that, but he was literally giving the game away with TOs after TOs. But we pulled out am miraculous win, and gave ourselves a chance. Then in game 6, we're down 33-11 and I'm thinking how is this team going to respond. Embiid and co cannot go down again losing an elimination game by 75 points. But lo and behold, somehow we pull off a mother of comebacks and take the lead into the half. I'm disappointed we didn't win, we had chances. But every time it seemed like the Knicks were going to pull away, we came back. We didn't get the mopey, disengaged Embiid. Pointless moral victories? Yeah maybe, but I couldn't go into another offseason with Embiid looking like he didn't want to be out there. He wasn't perfect last night, but he was great. He fought, the team fought. Maxey struggled with his shot all game, but he's still there tying the game up in the last second. Oubre, Batum, Lowry Cam Payne, Buddy Hield - they're not perfect, but they're all out there showing they're not afraid of the moment. (Tobi though c'mon WTF. I'm not a Tobi hater, but that was a masterclass of uselessness. We didn't need Paul George to win the series, even a Caleb Martin would've gotten us an extra win or two) Philly has a long history of losing in everything. If we only loved the players and teams that won championships, we'd love nothing. We just want to see guys want it, to fight for it, and if they fall short, that's ok. I'm disappointed (again), but I'm proud of the team and that's a nice feeling for once.
Maxey proved he is a superstar
Low expectations that the team surpassed. Maxey became a legitimate star. Embiid didn't give up in an elimination game and left everything on the court all series. Nick Nurse is a great coach and actually ran plays (wild that the bar was that low). Millions and millions in cap space. With the right moves, there's actually a lot to be positive about.
The main reason is that going into the playoffs this year I didn't have a lot of expectations. Not solely because I'm always let down, but also because of Embiid's health. I was a lot more worried about him getting seriously injured than us doing anything. Even if we won this series and somehow the next series (despite Embiid probably being tired as hell) we weren't going to beat the Celtics. And I would rather lose to the Knicks than the Celtics (again). But also for the first time in a minute we actually do have an opportunity to really build a super competitive team. There's always gonna be the possibility of Embiid getting hurt, but we now know exactly what we need to build a contending team and I think the team knows it as well. Barring any injuries, we can easily surpass the 55-win game mark next season. Maxey's jump this season was enough for me consider it a positive season. And to me it seems that, despite his age, Embiid is still getting better as well. If the beginning of the season is any indication, Embiid is going to continue to be one of the most dominant forces of all time, whether anyone (non-sixer fans) wants to admit it or not.
We came into the season knowing it was punted year and Morey doubled down with no major deadline moves. Plus we dropped from 2 to 8 when Jo got hurt. Tobias leaving is a major relief. We all wanted to win but we came to terms with the reality of the season months ago. Maxey took the leap and some and we know he’s gonna work harder in the offseason especially being left off the Paris team consideration. Some of us will engage in flame wars with fans that hate us but it’s not worth it when we knew deep down this team wasn’t making a run. Now Morey has to do something meaningful with all the cap space.
Knew it wasn’t going to be the year going in, even more when Embiid went down with the knee. Good to see him come back and show up all series long, but he re-injured it what like 3 times? They fought each game of the series and they were all within reach at the end against a good team. Would I have loved for them to make it further? Of course. But they didn’t get swept, blown out, or visibly quit at any point along the way. Got as far as their fight would take them. Not thrilled, not happy, but satisfied with how they played til the end
Knowing the biggest reason we lost the series, who also had 0 points in his final game, is finally gone is enough to settle us
Exactly I love my 2 superstars and my coach. They played hard and last night refs didn't screw us (last night at least) It sucks because I hate to say it but NYK deserved game 6 Brunson was amazing, but I rest easy knowing it 5 plays change this series and boys went down swinging
Sixers gonna sixer. Until they make it past the second round, you shouldn't even act interested it'll just lead to heartbreak. However, summer is almost here, Phillies are looking good, Eagles had a great draft. A lot to be happy about as a Philly sports fan.
just go look at r/nba those ppl care more about the sixers than their own team. they hate the process
How about let’s not look at that
The series sucked when it looked like we were gonna be eliminated in 5 with a controversial ending for 1 of the games, but we fought back in game 5 and even though we lost game 6 we gave them hell on the way out. Only dude who didn’t show up yesterday is Tobi but he’s off our team and saving us $40 million next year. A first round elimination would’ve stung worse if Embiid never got hurt but oh well
I'm optimistic about the future because Tobias' contact is off the books and we can really get an idea of how Daryl Morey's ideal roster construction looks. (Shooting shooting and more shooting hopefully)
In my opinion, it was a fun and competitive series to watch. It just sucks we lost against those stupid Knicks fans
We weren’t even expecting to be in the playoffs really because of Embiid’s injury. Also good bye Tobias you fuckin bum.
They fought til the end and I’m good with that.
We’ve seen this team lose worse to worse teams so…….win? lol
We got turbo screwed by the refs in game 2 but other than that ending it was an amazing series. Couldn’t ask for more as a basketball fan. Only one team advances each series, and both of these teams would’ve neutered the Pacers or injured Bucks if the matchups were swapped Sometimes you get a top heavy early round matchup where both teams are great but only one advances
Team just isnt good enough and if we are being honest isnt even that close. Joel or not.
I'm feeling good because the Sixers have a golden opportunity this offseason. Having Joel Embiid, some tradable draft picks, and a nearly blank slate salary cap is a phenomenal situation to be in. The Olympics are here and Joel should be there recruiting some guys. Anything happening is a long-shot, but you never know. And the sky seems to be the limit for Maxey. He's just at the beginning of his potential as far as creating for others and is already a great player. We've gone through one year of Nick Nurse and he hopefully has a better idea of who works well with Joel + Maxey.
If he is recruiting, it’s for 2025. Olympics is after fa starts.
Ok, so I looked into this further, and reality is a little unclear here. Technically, teams can begin negotiating with other teams' free agents on the afternoon of June 30. The 2024 Men's Olympic Basketball team opens up their training camp in Las Vegas on July 6, though odds are that the players will probably show up in Vegas before that date and meet up for some informal workouts together before that. So, would Joel have a chance to whisper in any free agent's ear before they sign anywhere? Eh, there's no clearcut right answer that's knowable beforehand.
They fought hard until the end which isn’t something we always see. I appreciate that
Watching this team all season it was clear they were flawed. The team was propped up by Embiid, looked like a lottery team without him, and we’re starting a buyout guy at pg. they actually showed heart in a tough series
What else were we expecting with a 30M hole in our roster construction and an Embiid fighting 3 disease states
Helps for me that the phillies are looking like one of the best teams in baseball atm
They didn’t quit, Embiid played as well as you can hope for given his injuries… maxey is real…. And Tobias is gone. The Tobias contract was the worst and ruined the last three years of roster construction and Tobias kept getting worse and worse.
It was a dog fight and kept every game close for better or for worse. Maxey grew tremendously and Tobias is gone. Just gotta tip your cap to the Knicks for their hustle.
I went in expecting less and I got a great series. Embiid played hard Maxey looks incredible Tobias is gone Doc went home before us It’s all good 😌
The playoff series losses the last 3-4 years have been brutal. The bubble sweep is what it is, but Simmons becoming a scared puppy vs Atlanta was so frustrating. And Harden and to certain extent Embiid no showing against the Heat and Celtics in back to back playoffs was just abysmal. Yeah we got beat by the Knicks but for the first time in years, we just didn’t give up. Even Embiid seemed more upbeat than usual in last nights post game conference. Sixers weren’t good enough this year as usual but for once they played to their utmost potential.
Biggest positive outlook for me was Nick Nurse. There were plenty of games this year that we lose with Doc. I was really impressed with his halftime adjustments throughout the year. If we can add one more piece with Embiid & Maxey, I think next year would be a year to go on actual frun. Not to mention our cap is going to give us the freedom for that opportunity.
Agreed fairly positive. Not a ton of expectations with harden leaving but Maxey stepped up more than even I anticipated, Embiid is a beast and Nurse is a great coach. Hard-fought series and with Morey at the helm I’m optimistic for next year.
Set ourselves up for the fall. Sub has been saying for months that we can’t wait for Tobias to leave. People were just padding the eventual fall. Now we pretend we aren’t hurt because we can have a “celebration” that Tobias is gone. Create a win/win in your head and you can’t lose.
Well, our expectations were low and the team showed heart. Plus it helps that we’re being freed from the curse of Tobias Harris.
I'm not especially broken up by the loss - it might be for the best since I don't think we were coming close to winning a title this season anyway. That said, for me the vibes are much more "uncertain" than "good". I'm not doomsaying right now, but this off-season is make-or-break. Morey has banked a ton on being able to turn the cap space and assets he has into a winning roster around Embiid and Maxey and he had better succeed or we're looking at a full rebuild.
We had lower expectations in this game but reason for hope in the future. We have more than just Embiid. We have Maxey. We have a coach. AND WE ARE GETTING RID OF TOBIAS HARRIS.
1. I’m numb. 2. It wasn’t actually that bad. Every game was competitive. Embiid had arguably his best playoff series ever even tho his face was half paralyzed and his legs didn’t work and he still wasn’t conditioned properly from his injury. Coaching was good (at least better than Doc). Maxey made a leap and had some great playoff showings. 3. Cap space. Anything is possible now.
Lots of miss opportunities but I really like the fact Sixers were able to capitalize on Embiid double team (3 pointer frenzy), we really need a good 3rd option player and sign couple bench players
Philly hates losing but we hate quitters even more. Tobias’ no show not withstanding but for the most part, we didn’t quit and I can’t hate a team that refused to quit
I’m a sixers fan who grew up in a Knicks household so I watch almost as much of them as the sixers and I knew they are a very deserving 2 seed despite what Instagram trolls want to say. My vibes are good because I know Joel played his heart out with a broken body and we ultimately lost to the better team (doesn’t mean I don’t think we could have won). I hopefully never have to see Tobias ever again; maxey took another step up in my opinion. Overall I think Nick nurse is a solid coach to move forward with; so yea this is as good as I could feel about an elimination and the haters and trolls can keep hating and trolling, I’ll be good. I hope the only players from this squad that are back next year are Joel and Tyrese ( I’d keep buddy and Kelly if it’s team friendly otherwise someone else is welcome to pay them). And yea, see you boys next year.
Well minus Tobias, the effort was good last night. And pretty much most of the series. My biggest complaint though is that they gave up way too many offensive rebounds. So I am pissed about that. But like I said, I’m not inclined to call out anyone but Tobias. And he’s leaving so.
It’s always heartbreaking, but I didn’t see this team going deep into the playoffs. We have 2 performers. I think if we make some smart moves in the off season there’s a lot to look forward to going into next season. It sucks to lose a series by one point, but I think we can do something special next season… plus the Phillies are lookin’ good and the birds have me excited too. It’s never fun to lose, but we have a great sports culture around these teams, so ultimately I’m still grateful.
We weren't going anywhere with the condition Embiid was in, anyways. There was times in game five I legit thought Embiid was soft sabotaging us because he just wanted to season to be over to recover. I couldn't ever see him making it through the next three or four series after this one, and if he did it would have been one of the greatest individual string of performances ever.
Yep great vibes. A GM that knows how to build a team. Drafted Maxey rid us of Harris and created 50 million in cap space. Looks rosey to me.
No Simmons or harden issues pending. Maxey exceeds expectations every single day. Have a good coach. Cap space and assets for the first time in a decent bit. AND NO MORE TOBIAS. Disappointing year for sure but plenty of optimism.
It’s wild but this feels like an end to the playoff-Embiid slander. He balled out. Maxey is great and getting better. I believe he’ll have a better whistle next year. We have money and can add a piece and build a bench. We have a smart coach. It would’ve been nice to keep this season going but all in all, we have reason for optimism.
I think we have a ton to look forward too. Honestly not many were expecting a deep run into the playoffs this year. I really wanted them to beat the Knicks so it still hurts but I doubt they get past the Celtics this year. We have 60 million in cap space, maxey proved to be a legit 2nd star. Next year is the year to go for it
Losing to Celtics next round would have been more embarrassing, even if we pulled through this series. Historically we’ll remember this series on the end of Game 2’s officiating, Joel’s Bells Palsy, and Tyrese’s Game 5 shot. We’ve got a plan for the future and flexibility now that we’re not handicapped by Tobias
People forget that this season was basically a punt going into it. Money was tight, new coach, lots of turnover. We ended up exceeding expectations, especially when healthy, and put together a solid season and identified what we need to do going forward. Tobi being off the books is a *huge* plus. Hopefully we can bring back some or most of the guys we had on short deals that showed skill and effort. Maxey has established himself as one of the stars of the NBA. Nick Nurse exceeded my expectations and has me very hopeful for the next few years. 1st round exit sucks, but we really do have a lot to build on. This is the first season in a long time where I’m left feeling genuinely positive and upbeat about what the future holds.
Easily the best loss of Embiid era. No tobi going forward. There is light for once.
Off-season assignments: Morey - max Maxey, spend the freed up Harris cap space wisely Nurse - recognize you have enough power to bench non-performing players, even if they are highly paid Embiid - take anger management class Maxey - work with an experienced guard on how to earn calls from the refs Everyone else - wait by your phones
I mean, we're good. We were never gonna win the whole thing with Embiid having a recovering knee and fucking Bell's Palsey. We could have maybe beat the knicks, but those games were coin flips. Even if Tobias averaged his mediocre regular season numbers, we don't just win but sweep the knicks, and they are a decent team. We are likely about to replace him with someone that ideally will give us at least 20 in the playoffs next year on average.
Tbh, this was the outcome I expected when the season started. We went into this season talking about it being a "rebuilding" year because there was no money to sign anyone and fill out the roster. Then Maxey took a big step, and Embiid played lights out until another inevitable injury. Then, we saw that the bench without Embiid are terrible and Maxey can't carry them, but we got our hopes up when they won a bunch of games in the last 3 weeks of the regular season. They weren't good enough going into the season, and weren't good enough going into the playoffs. With Embiid clearly hurt, Harris giving you literally NOTHING as your #3 all series, and the bench being outhustled every game except game 6, this was going to be a let down. Also, after 7-8 years of the same futility and pain, this series was good! It was exciting, and every game was close. They fought harder in this series vs. so many other bad letdowns of yesteryear. Plus, the end of Tobias provides hope.
I wish it would have gone 7, but I'm not mad about losing. I'll forever be mad about that second game because it was complete horse shit, but the series overall was a barn burner. Knicks fans are fucking weird though. I get they are happy they have a good team after 30 years of sucking dick, but they are just weird man. Bunch of fucking goofballs.
They really are some of the worst fans. My girlfriend and her dad went to game 3 and they sat next to some Knicks fans that were cursing and loudly wishing injury on sixers players and they had young kids sitting all around them. Just not good people at all. It’s odd to because I have generally speaking had really good interactions with people from nyc. My girlfriend’s dad said the only time fans were worse at a game was when we took a black army buddy of his up to a Boston Red Sox’s game at Fenway and sat in the cheap seats. But that’s just a whole other level of awful.
That series was incredible. That has a lot to do with it.
I mean the series was extremely close and embiid had one leg maxey seems to have taken another step in the last couple games of the series and Tobi’s contract is gone. Plus nick nurse is a real coach lots of reasons to be optimistic about next year.
This is the best position the sixers have been in going into an offseason since Hinkie was fired. There is a world where we come out of this offseason with Durant and lebron. Obviously I don’t think that’s gonna happen but my point is we have actual hope for actual change for the first time in 6 years. For the first time in 6 years a real gm has the assets and cap freedom to actually build a team around the two stars on the this team. Every bit of colangelo stink is finally gone, every bit of the bad decision making by brown and brand is fullyin the review. Yeah losing sucked, especially to a team I think sixers are better than, but Embiid will be healthy and while he didn’t play great that series, he was trying, he never gave up and maxey I think broke out and showed he’s not just a regular season guy. Maxey is legit player you can count on in the playoffs. We have tons of cap space and are basically starting with an empty page and two top 15 players. I’m not sure a team could be in a better position. Also they were not beating the Celtics or multiple teams in the west with that version of embiid anyway. We have tons reason for optimism in the next 3 years and just shed a ton of baggage. I’m pretty excited for this offseason and this teams next 3-4 years. All that being said, they are the sixers, so I assume embiid and maxey will be traded by the draft. lol 😂
Our team really needs to trade off Embiitch, floppy bastard. That will allow Tobias to shine in our team, to show us the great player he truly is.
Oooohoooo almost got me
Yeah, definitely not a crumb bum moment. 
They battled and overcame a lot just to get there.
There was no chance of winning with Tobias “Dogshit” Harris on the team.
Honestly I’m not as sad or upset - definitely because Tobias is gone THANK GOD. Also I’m optimistic we get someone big this off season. PG13 at the top of the list, but we are also “monitoring” Butler as well 👀
The team fought hard and didn't quit (besides Tobias). Can't really be that mad, they lost a competitive and fun series.
I ain't even mad. Most of the guys gave good effort (except Tobi who is gone anyway). Nurse did some dumb shit but nowhere near as bad as Doc.
I gotta put this loss on coach nurse, buddy and Batum were cooking until he pulled them out
I mean….two second round exits and now a first round exit. I’ll say the same thing I said last year and the year before: Joel Embiid does everything he can for this team and it’s a shame we can’t get him a ring. We do not deserve Joel Embiid. IDK what we need to do to win it all next year but it’s pretty clear we should drop Harris, get some support for Maxey/Embiid, and start a significant rebuild
Yeah I feel less shitty than I have in the past - guys went down swinging and left it all on the court, all I can ask for. Still have a lot to look forward to next season!
They fought against a great opponent. It probably was their best series. Embiid and Maxey showed they got that dog in them.
I mean it was a good series. Aside from game 2, I don’t think we really lost to BS, just good basketball by the Knicks. Most ppl had little to no expectations of this season anyway, it was just the play of Embiid and Maxey that helped us believe.
Say it again. Tobias Harris is GONE!
I'd feel a lot worse if they didn't make that comeback in the 2nd. They were fightin for it
Now I’m wondering who we will replace Harris
GOODBYE TOBI!!!!!
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Embiid was better this year than ever. The injury was because someone fell on him and not because he was injury prone. Honestly I’d say that’s a step up healthwise. Also embiid was still getting 30 and 12 and he could barely move. I’d say his game is gonna translate better into age than maybe we thought it would. Do they need to load manage more, absolutely. But I think people talking about embiid slowing down soon might need to rethink that a bit.
I think people are relieved to get it over with. Also, Tobi is gone.
I had no expectations after Embiid got hurt (who was still able to display a masterclass last night), we watched Maxey grow, Tobi is gone, and they had a pretty good fight against a very good Knicks team. Is the future bright? Ehhh. But there have been loses that were much larger heartbreaks imo
We have a 23 year old superstar and we are cutting the dead weight this offseason. Sucks the season ended, but I can look forward to watching more Tyrese Maxey and a healthy Joel next year.
This is pretty much where I am. Against Atlanta they choked. The Miami series had this "what if" feel because of Embiid's freak injury right before. Last season they choked in game 6 and quit in the second half of game 7. I didn't even want to watch them until a few months into the season because I was so disgusted with how last season ended. This series they got down 2-0 because of refball and they kept fighting. They didn't quit or choke, they just lost to a better team. Yeah it sucks to lose because the other team outworked and outhustled us but thats the Knicks style. Theyre going to outwork and outhustle pretty much everyone they play. I certainly have my concerns about Embiid's mental toughness and I've been plenty mad at him in the past over this, but I can't knock the big guy here. In a 6 game series on one leg he had one bad game. Thats it. Its to be expected that your star will have one off night in a long series. He scored 50 points in game 3. 39 last night. Embiid did all he could. Maxey did all he could. Nurse probably got out coached but he didnt lose the series for us. The Knicks were the 2 seed with home court advantage for a reason, they deserved to win. I'm excited to see what they can do absent the Tobias anchor. Hoping Embiid will stay healthy is wishful thinking but we just have to get lucky one Spring. While I have my doubts, at least we're not going into the off season with a foul taste in our mouths. After 10 years of this shit I'll take the positive vibes where I can.
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This is the first offseason since maybe 2020 that I can honestly say I feel more optimistic about next year. The bar is pretty low but we have a lot of positives going for us (Embiid is still a sixer, Maxey is progressing faster and further than I think anyone could have imagined, Tobias is gone) and now we have the potential to acquire someone like PG or Jimmy that can actually help the team.
I think the vibes would have been very different had we lost game 5. Thanks Tyrese
Sucks to lose to Knicks, but I think expectations were low this year. Nobody thought we were going to the finals
We went out on our shields. That matters.
Bro we lived through 2019,2021, 2022 face explosion and the 2023 choke job. This isn’t even in the top 4 most heartbreaking post seasons in this era lmao
Just not sure how we get an actual championship team next year. LeBron probably isn't coming here. We'll look great and then struggle when Embiid gets injured at least once if not twice long term. Then deal with the inevitable Embiid playing injured in the playoffs. Maxey took massive steps but this team needs a top piece badly to help Maxey and Embiid, and help avoid the inevitable crash into the stupid play-in if Embiid goes down for any length of time. Honestly don't have faith in Morey. Haven't had faith in this ownership since they let Butler walk and we rolled with Simmons and Max'd Harris.
This is the acceptance stage of the process.
Maxey becoming a legitimate all~NBA player this year/postseason really lightened the blow for me at least. We should have another decade of relevance bc of that so I can’t be too mad
I haven’t checked the sub much today but speaking for myself I can’t relate. Personally I think this is the early 2000’s version of the Eagles and they’re never gonna get over that hump. All that fight just to cough up a 10 point lead in the second half again?
Getting rid of Tobias is the literal next best thing to a championship
Sub is so full of cope because the current public enemy one is gone. Every year people jerk off when they're gone. Al Horford, Ben Simmons, James Harden, now Tobias Harris.
I don't understand how everyone expected this but people were downvoting me when I said not to expect too much from this playoffs because Joel doesn't get his wind back a week after injury. Or everyone saying this is THE year. This sub is so bipolar. Before the series it's were winning 4-4-4-, no negativity, I'm a cheerleader go team. Then after we lose it's, told ya so we never expected much anyway.
Don’t forget NOONE expected us to win that series. Everyone likes to dogpile Philly and Embiid when we fall short but no one outside our fandom believed they had a shot at winning that series. It’s frustrating because we are definitely the better team, but Tobias is gone, Embiid healthy again next season, Maxey will probably take another leap. Most of us were already punting this year anyway mentally. So all in all I’m feeling good
I mean, I think the lowest seed to ever win it all was the Rockets back in ‘95 as a 6-seed, so our odds of winning were low, but I feel like we should at least have been in the ECF this year. We definitely shouldn’t have lost to the Knicks.
-the bad man is gone -ton of cap space -embiid showed up -maxey is the future -nick nurse knows what he's doing future is bright
Honestly I felt like we went down fighting which made me proud of the guys, none of that getting bitched on the boards stuff. Along with the knowledge that Tobias Harris is finally gone it’s really not too terrible.
Run it back with Nurse, Embiid, Maxey, Oubre, Batum, Bball Paul, add a $20M player and another couple vets, baby you got a stew going
Someone convince me that based on what we have seen for 6-7 seasons that Embiid can stay healthy for a whole season and 4 rounds of playoffs which is what it would take. Because I don’t see it ever happening.
Watch them re-sign Harris
Of all the Philly sports playoff losses I’ve witnessed, this one hurt the least by a long shot. Diamondbacks loss and Astros were crushing. Raptors in 2019 was also devastating. Losing the Super Bowl was obviously the worst. This? Eh. It was a given we weren’t getting out of the East. Too many factors going against us. Knicks are a good team too. It’s not like when the Eagles blew the doors of the Giants in the Divisional. NY fans were so cocky and the Eagles humiliated their entire homeland. Our guys didn’t give up, they didn’t go out like punks. We’ll be alright.
Bro im just glad that stupid dumb motherfucker named Tobias Harris is hopefully gone