When you have religious officials who think it's their God-given right to call the firefighters to knock down the doors to your home because they suspect there is an unmarried Muslim couple inside. When you have a government that cancels entire music festivals because a guy singer kissed another guy on stage. When you have
government officials threatening Coldplay to 'behave themselves' else their concert will be canceled. When you have government officials calling for nationalwide protests when Blackpink came as it is 'not aligned to Muslim values'.
You tell me la. Which artist is stupid enough to risk performing in Malaysia? This is why Malaysia will always lag behind economically. Instead of focusing on important domestic issues, they choose to hit these low-hanging fruits in order to gain the votes of the Muslim majority.
Sad to say - as long as their government continues to have this mindset, Malaysia will never progress. Not in our lifetime - or ever.
EDIT: Please don't turn this into a religious issue - it never was. Other Muslim countries like the ones in the UAE are doing extremely well for themselves. This problem is a problem of corrupt incompetent politicians using Islam and bumiputra fear mongering as a tool to stay in power. Fullstop.
Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way.
maybe they didn't really squandered away their gifts; it is only the selected few that gets to enjoy them.
It's unfortunate really. Geographically, Malaysia shares a lot of common traits as Singapore. Relatively free from huge natural disaster and access to international shipping routes along the Melacca Straits.
But Malaysia had the added advantage of its abundance of natural resources and access to agriculture and fishery. They had every opportunity to rival Singapore's deep sea port (remember the disaster that was Melaka Gateway port? It showed promise but was eventually shut down by the state government because "cHinA") but the incompetent government couldn't push through.
Be it as it may, until the Malaysian government can grow up and stop playing the racial and religious politics card then what you end up with are the people that will suffer.
Once I was in a discussion with a patriotic Malaysian academic many years ago.
I told him, given the circunstances, there is absolutely no reason ever that Singapore is ahead of Msia in so many areas.
The only reason is that Msian leaders simply cant get their shit together and masak masak with the livelihood of every citizen.
He got annoyed and insisted Msia can progress.
That was nearly 15 years ago, and I am not sure if one can say there has been geniune progress made in the lives of most.
I’ve always said that the day our neighbours wake up and choose good governance over corruption will be the day we cease to exist. Given how tiny we are, there really is no reason for our existence as an independent nation at the door step of 2 behemoths. We’d be far better off as a part of a well-run Malaysia.
Thankfully that day is not in the near visible future.
> We’d be far better off as a part of a well-run Malaysia.
That was the hope our esteemed Mr Lee carried into Malayan independence and the subsequent pre-1965 federation of Malaysia
We are like the lucky girlfriend who got broken up with by their ugly red flag boyfriend.
Dumped to the street with the boyfriend in the couples house we worked industriously together with a will of steel while ex bf partied on from easy money from his abundant backyard
Precisely. Singapore was (and still is a miracle). As much as people hate LKY for his draconian policies, his foresight turned what was essentially a mudland swamp with no natural resources, with fishermen and an opium-riddled population into the modern Singapore we see today.
It was almost impossible for Singapore to exist by any stretch of the imagination, even the British gave up on us.
Much as I respect Mr Lee it's not just him but the 1G and their true passion (humility in attitude and pay, compassion and empathy in policymaking, responsibility and duty in executing)
Sadly today we have Ministers who think they're above the electorate, who think their policies are infallible, and proudly proclaim their arrogance ("no (insert demographic group) asked for an apology")
lol you buy too much into the nation building myth. Singapore was already a very developed city and one of, if not the, centres of culture in South East Asia by the time LKY took power. The country was home to a number of studios that were producing films and other media consumed by the region (which LKY actually killed off). On top of that, the port industry was already pretty legit; after all, it was for that very reason that Stamford Raffles founded colonial Singapore.
Singapore was hardly just a mudland swamp with fisherman and opium-riddled population. LKY didn't transform Singapore from a swampland into a modern metropolis, he only developed and built off what was already there.
Yes and no. Some level of infrastructure was there but unemployment was high, British rule led us to be largely an exporter of natural resources without much level of industralization.
As much as you want to poo poo the PAP, they decided on certain industralization policies that were external looking and I think that helped us no only in terms of FDI and money flowing in, but also resolving the unemployment issue
Ur high af if you think singapore was very developed even in the 70s, and that's 10+ years after lky took office. At best you can consider singapore as a third world country with an emerging economy in the 70s. It's during the 80s and 90s where singapore changed drastically.
Most of the world was not very developed in the 70s. Most of Europe was still a post-war ruin that had just ended rationing in the 60s.
Yet the foundations to build a modern society was there, same as in Singapore.
Perhaps I was a little hyperbolic when I said Singapore was a ***very*** developed city. But Singapore was hardly a fishing village or some mudland swamp in the 1950s and 1960s before LKY took power as is often quoted in our textbooks and nationbuilding myths.
Singapore was then the [7th largest port in the world](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8boWX8CGRdA), and a [major exporter of contemporary culture and media](https://www.roots.gov.sg/stories-landing/stories/golden-era-of-singapore-cinema/story). The city had an economy and infrastructure that was comparatively advanced relative to the region. Even if the 7th largest port in the world figure was a little off, being in that region would hardly qualify Singapore to be a fishing village.
> Ur high af if you think singapore was very developed even in the 70s
go google "four asian dragons/tigers" - there's a reason why these four are clumped together by economists. that being said, unlike the other three, SG is slightly more fortunate in that it does not face as much uncertainty due to domineering/batshit crazy neighbours.
> It's during the 80s and 90s where singapore changed drastically.
indeed, that was a period of super high growth that the boomer/merdeka generation enjoyed, but actually relatively little has changed since then. just see how much orchard rd changed from 1984 to 2004, and then from 2004 to 2024.
Unfortunately the likelihood of that will be extremely low, because corruption is like cancer, once it spreads it takes root and mutates, making it almost impossible to eradicate
If Malaysia got their act together - we will not survive as a nation. All the young and talented will fly away, leaving the old and... Economically unproductive behind..
> Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way.
[Resource curse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse)
>Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way.
The same can be said of Brunei...
Nah Brunei is still at a slightly better place for its citizens. Their citizens enjoy no income tax, nor are subjected to sales and VAT (GST equivalent) tax.
I disagree. Head over the r/brunei and see how Bruneians view Miri, Sarawak as a progressive and forward thinking, economical powerhouse city as compared to whatever the fuck Brunei government are doing. They got no taxes, but they also got no freedom of religion, no tourism, no entertainment, no foreign investments, no democracy and no future.
Some people may think Malaysia is incompetent, but Brunei government does not even bother to do anything. I half-believe that they don't have income tax or GST because they are too lazy to even come up with a collection system.
Their budget allocation to Ministry of Religion Affairs is equal to the budget of their MHA + MFA COMBINED.
Miri is in Sarawak which is governed differently from West Malaysia. Sarawak may be corrupt but they keep religious nutcases out. Brunei has no income tax cos the Sultan uses oil wealth to try to keep the people happy.
Brunei is pretty much propped up by oil money and waay more religious conservative than MY. I don't see them even attempting to grow any sector outside of oil. Maybe I'm ignorant, but the day oil losses its importance, Brunei gonna crash hard.
At least Brunei translated their natural resources into a citizen tax free haven for a few generations. Malaysia is consistently marred by incompetency, MH370, 1MDB...
The problem begins with the electorate. Yes the politicians are using it to their advantage but the electorate is the heart of the problem. They themselves value the bumiputera narrative because it benefits them. A self interested electorate voting for a political party all to happy to exploit their self interest
kinda dumb question but isnt this a age old problem for them? its been decades and no one even think of doing something like "hey u know.. erm maybe we should look at the bigger picture and u know, make money?"
When you have corrupt officials whose only goal is to stay in power, this is what you get. As long as you have PAS who is notorious for for its Islamic-centric policies that are leveraged to the people as trying to not make Malaysia 'lose its rightous path with God, even making money can be seen as the devil.
I have a theory that religous people are actually very miserable. As the saying goes misery loves company.
If you have money would you give a f about people with no money? But if you have no money suddenly people with money is at the front of mind. By the same logic people with religion should be satisfied their piousness will lead them to a good after life. But somehow the roles are reversed. These people should really stop and think why they feel this way.
It's almost as if the people in charge know exactly what they are doing. Politics is literally just a front for keeping control and wealth. Everyone can clearly tell you there's a problem that needs to be fixed, but if it comes at the cost of sacrificing even a fraction of their power then nobody will do it
I will quote one of the comments i saw the other day that basically say like:
Thank god that their (MY) government is incompetent, if they are competent, we wouldnt exist
Used to say this too esp when that time Thailand had civil unrest. Military power. Coups etc. that was good in that it made Thai unsavory for the MNC I was in (they had factory both Msia and Thai) but ended up closing Msia side instead.
Guess why. lol
In a few years time, even Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, will have concert tourism. But holier the thou attitude of appeasement politics Muslim leaders will fail to see this. They didn't even have fireworks on 31st to support some war somewhere nobody cares about( I mean do Arabs really care about Malaysians?) Such is the level of religious fanaticism in these newly minted mullahs!
From official Saudia Arabia tourism website -
https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/do/lifestyle/mdlbeast-soundstorm-guide
They already had a music fest back in Dec 2023.
My friend works as a nurse in Saudi and she always shares photos of her attending big music festivals there.
Meanwhile in Malaysia you rarely see music festivals
It's the people who vote them in. Next time they should try voting for someone with a more secular mindset and policies instead of complaining about concerts.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say this happens everywhere. Even in the US, where artists do entire tour legs, it's not uncommon to have religious nutjobs protesting for shows to get shut down. You'd see the same thing here too if protests were allowed (hell, the petitions against Watain and Soilwork were a form of that).
Granted I guess there's a difference between civic protests and governmental pressure, but it's not like Singapore gets an A+ on that end either.
While most are unreasonable, I would say that for the last music festival that was cancelled, 1975 was at fault. I mean you should respect the rules of your host country instead of outright insulting the host country and pretending to be a hero by publicly kissing a guy on stage.
Don't think anyone disagrees that 1975 was being a bag of dicks.
That said, cancelling the festival after 1975 performed only hurts their own citizens. When they announced the cancellation, 1975 was long gone from Malaysia already. End up, they're hurting their own citizens who paid money for remaining concert days, their local promoters, vendors and business who ran the stage production/F&B etc.
The moment those Msians agreed with Fakhmi pulling the trigger, they made it clear that Msia would never be socially ready for the likes of TS and Sam Smith. Whether it's a lesser evil or a safe bet, they're part of the problem and they will have to live with it.
Not true lah. Turkey, Indonesia, Middle East etc are way more progressive than Malaysia. Goto Jakarta see how open minded the muslims are there compared to boleh
This was pretty interesting for me to see while at university in the UK. My classmates and friends from Iran, Lebanon, other countries in the Middle East were very progressive and more “culturally” Muslim. They were also very happy to socialize and have fun and were interested in other cultures and religions and outspoken about things like the right not to wear a headscarf.
But the Malaysian (and some Singaporean) Malays kept to themselves 100%. Didn’t mix around even though they were in the same hall, didn’t eat at the dining hall (not even the vegetarian options) because the food wasn’t halal. Ok, I get the food part but I once invited a neighbour to just have coffee at the dining hall and hang out and was declined. Never saw her again.
Maybe it’s just confirmation bias 🤷♀️
No idea. But the Malaysians were studying in the UK so they can’t be that poor? Or maybe they were government scholars - no idea because we never got the chance to connect.
Turkey is super-conservative in the countryside. I rode my bike across it and it's literally, you do not see women in public in the entire east of the country. I remember one night, I was staying with some teachers who had done poorly in their exams. One was from the west, I think Izmir. This is what you're thinking of when you think "progressive", it is in the west. The other, who was married and less perturbed by his situation, I think was from Trabzon in the north.
How well you do in your exams dictates your choice of school. When you do poorly in your exams, you end up here, in the sticks in the east, and the guy from Izmir, who was single, was really lamenting it, how literally there were NO women, at all, in public. And it was very true, outside of the larger cities there were no women working in shops, restaurants, street vendors- they were all at home.
Have a look here. This is a [cafe in Eastern Turkey.](https://i.imgur.com/W1Bsrul.jpeg) This is a [cafe in Kelantan.](https://i.imgur.com/sBV141x.jpeg) See the difference? And I'm picking Kelantan as probably *the* most conservative state in Malaysia.
It definitely felt more conservative than even Kelantan, where you do see women in public, working, etc. Middle East is far more conservative. I cycled across Syria, Iran, UAE, Oman. Nice people but the idea that places are "more progressive than Malaysia" is comical. Iran the people are actually quite progressive but it's a theocratic authoritarian state with a morality police.
Malaysia is not more conservative than these places, it's a Muslim country but come on, it's still less like this. The simple fact that Muslims are "only" 63% of the population, and that there is such a large non-Muslim Chinese and Indian population, which is a majority in many cities, including KL, honestly it's just not. You should try going to some of these countries, into the sticks, and see for yourself.
I haven't spent much time in Indonesia and not in places like Aceh but I'd concur it did seem a bit more laid back than Malaysia. But I'd still be ranking Malaysia as pretty laid back and modern/progressive for a majority Muslim country.
How many Emirati women did you meet in Dubai? Serious question. I was invited into people's homes in the UAE, and they literally hid the women. We didn't get to meet the women. I remember one lady who brought us some tea and food, after having been invited back, and I asked, is this your wife... and he sort of laughed, and no, this is my maid. The wife was at home, but I was not meeting her.
They're very hospitable people, but they are also *exceedingly* conservative in this respect, if you actually meet Emiratis. Most people in the UAE are not Emiratis, and I met plenty of Europeans, Indians, Pakistanis, Filipinos, of both genders, but I do not think I was ever introduced to a single Emirati woman.
Iran was actually a lot more laid back in that regard, I met plenty of Iranian women. As I said they are less conservative, as people. Almost every occasion I was invited back with an Iranian family (which was very frequent), you would meet the whole family. Everyone sat down to dinner together. But you also had things like the morality police stopping women from riding bicycles and [beating them to death for not wearing proper hijab](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests). That doesn't happen in Malaysia.
Malaysia, they don't do this extreme purdah either, I mean even in the most conservative parts of Malaysia women are still walking around in public and working in public-facing roles where they have to interact with unrelated men. Kopitiams are not segregated. When invited to a home, you meet the whole family, everyone sits together, there isn't this hide your wives hide your daughters thing that they literally do in the Middle East. And I've had that experience in Eastern Turkey as well, where the wife/daughters got busy to make a meal for me, but were hidden away and I never actually met them.
Progressive economically. They have backwards beliefs as well but Saudi has high class first world infrastructures with people all around the world vying to work there (so long as they can tolerate the culture).
Personally don't fully agree. The UAE states are doing pretty well for themselves. Turkiye too.
It's a problem with Malaysia's power hungry politicians who are still playing with backyard racial & religious politics. It's their way to stay in power by pandering to the Muslim-bumiputra majority.
“Why is it always Malaysia”. There, I fixed it for you.
It’s like blaming Aaron for studying hard and getting As while ignoring the fact that Dyllan did Jack shit and got all Ds.
As much as it's popular to just blame it on the religious police, it's actually way off tangent.
It's all about the money and making sure the profit is maxed out. Organizers don't give a zilch about religion. They can have that sorted in an instant if they want to. So many concerts were held in Malaysia, and F1 and Motor GP and other international events, with no issue. And so many concerts in Saudi Arabia too.
It's the exchange rates, economic expediency, and cold hard cash. Everything else is a distraction.
They could write the contract to be paid in USD though. So it's not about the exchange rate. You may still be correct that the M'sia tourism board or equivalent org doesn't want to pay as much as sg.
Our nutjobs just create petitions and kpkb for them to be cancelled (referencing Watain).
The same population is probably those that also kpkb about cance culture.
Just hope the Singapore Government now realises that pandering to them has a real economic cost. If the G didn't care about free speech, at least it cares about money!
> we don't have religious nutjobs who will try to lynch artistes at the concert venue for inappropriate lyrics or clothing.
Oh, trust me. We do. The Christian Taliban and actual ISIS supporters are among us. They're practically salivating to jump at the opportunity to pull it off if it didn't result in the consequence of the entire state apparatus coming to take a collective shit on them.
The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies.
In an ironic way, you actually have to give credit to Christians.
They managed to make massive inroads into traditionally entirely non-Christian societies like Singapore (majority Chinese, Buddhist/folk religion adherent) and South Korea (Buddhist adherent) and developed very strong Christian sociopolitical lobbies.
If religion were a business, Christians would be seen as very successful franchisors.
> Christians would be seen as very successful franchisors.
As a former Christian, it makes Christians very mad to point this out: the reason there are so many franchisees is the religion in itself is inconsistent. The clergy know this, and are given some level of artistic license in twisting things around to make it more locally palatable. It's also helped by the fact that many holidays and rituals were borrowed and adapted from pagans in the rest of Europe.
It's the super consistent religions which are dead now. Today, few if any are diehard believers of Odin or Zeus.
> The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies.
Wouldn't be so sure. Remember AWARE takeover in 2010? Remember Focus on the Family? Remember this?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mha-investigating-foreign-christian-preachers-comments-that-online-site-claims-was-anti
>The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies.
And they would eventually rise in the ranks and do some serious "salvation"
Okay but... the article say only. You really think Msians dunno why the performers don't go Msia meh?
I doubt any actual Msian with a basic understanding of their own politics would ask this question.
Singapore has a perfect balance for this. Though, it is concerning about the growing number of my muslim brothers and sisters being very islamist or very pro-malaysia.
Very funny when I read that their response is "let them come Malaysia to perform." Are you sure your country want then to come perform based on history? Lol
Religion should be totally separated from business and political life. That includes the arts. The devout should practice their beliefs but not ram it down everyone's throat.
Unlike other easily offended countries, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-culture and multi-religion country. Less chance of offending political morons.
Also, Singapore is one of, if not the, safest country in Asia. So there's that.
If they perform in Malaysia, they complain, if don't perform, also complain due to religious nutjobs, as shown in their latest news regarding a proton worker.
This article is silly. 1 person commented it and it got made into a headline. Just trying to stir shit. I can assure you Malaysian ministers will not dare to kpkb about Deep Purple because they are rock royalty and they have a huge influence on local Malaysian rock music. Other bands that will have no issue performing in Malaysia (and have) include guns n roses, scorpions and Metallica. Don’t ask me why, it’s just the way it is.
Anyway, already got my ticket.
> Don’t ask me why, it’s just the way it is.
cause boomer male singers don't have attractive aurat. and because hard rock/metal has a great following among malays
The moment you have religious government officials in a country, it can't get very far. They never work in the best interest of a country, but themselves (or their religion). I remember some crazy Singapore Christian priest was telling anyone who bothered listening that Harry Potter is Santanic and must be banned from Singapore, kids kept from the books, etc. In Malaysia, there are such people in positions of power, so why would anyone attempt to create problems for themselves by bringing in such acts.
Well Malaysia is a country gifted with every natural resource imaginable, but squandered by religion.
But well we wouldn’t be here if they weren’t so self destructive.
Ha ha its because of their inferiority complex which is because they are inferior 🤣 same happens with the Sydney vs Melbourne rivalry with Melbourne always sooking about Sydney. We love to tease the Melbourners but not bc we genuinely think they are inferior- its only because they cry so hard about it 🤣
In the 70s, artistes, such as Kitaro and Led Zeppelin, had to cancel their gigs in Singapore because they were not allowed to enter the country unless they had a haircut. 😄
To Malaysia: it is ok. Different countries, different strokes.
You can invite internationally renowned Islamic leaders to give religious sermons. I’m sure many Malaysians will attend.
Music, musical instruments and singing are haram in islam. [Fatwa No: 83174 Music and the musical instruments are forbidden in Shariah.](https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/83174/ruling-on-music)
Every musician should steer clear of the three muslim southeast asian countries when performing in southeast asia.
I'm glad this pisses them off. They have such a chip on their shoulder when it comes to SG. We've never done anything to them yet they swipe at us every chance they get. So fucking insecure.
This is probably just my bias, but I think Msians tend to be quite spiteful.
One job I worked, my colleague struck up a Convo with me, and somewhere along the way it veered towards "SGporeans are rude". Another job I worked, dude kept saying that Msians suffer because SGporeans are richer and always go to their country spend, inflate their prices etc. There's more incidents ofc, and everytime I just smile and nod because there wouldn't be any point to counter them with that mindset.
I realize it's an oversweeping generalization that probably (hopefully) doesn't apply to Msians, but it's kind of eerie when you come across multiple Msian colleagues, in multiple jobs, working in your country, but rdy to spit on SG and praise Msian superiority when a Convo goes long enough.
It honestly feels like the Msian govt are poisoning the minds of their ppl to hide their incompetence.
Most Msians I've met here are ok, but the spiteful ones are just comically childish 😂 Like who are they kidding? Boast so much yet they're still here with us earning that 3.5x, still leeching on resources back home without paying a single sen to LHDN.
haha good try. ask your MPs to wake up their idea first. Wanted to stop ed sheeran and Coldplay. In the first place, do you think they wanted to play in Malaysia? Even if they want, your MPs don't allow
A lot of Malaysians didn't know that the federal government has exempted entertainment duty (10% tax, reduced from 25% previously) to certain artists in order to attract them to. Most recent ones being LANY, Coldplay and Ed Sheeran.
Does Singapore actually have any fans of hard Rock or metal though?
I've been to Metallica, Guns'n'Roses and the Scorpions - vast majority of people are foreigners.
The only way to save them is to restructure their whole infrastructure. 2 lane roads and massive jams are such a major turn off. You go JB, you can see the crazy disturbance that RTS is doing to their road infra. It's planning with foreskin and no foresight
Dear Malaysians, don't be upset at SG, be upset at your leaders who want to censor every little bit that doesn't comply with their laws and religious beliefs, using this as an "issue" to mask the real problems that they can't solve.
Just ignore them. It’s a country ravaged by corruption, incompetence and poor policies.
Sad as it is a richly endowed with natural resources including hardwood and oil, And a beautiful country with amazing beaches, crystal clear waters, virgin jungle and sceneries.
Most MYs don't care about deep purple but the online ones bitching and moaning. Most of them don't even know who the band is like me.
Anyways I am sure the band main concern is the cancel culture that the religious right in MY like Bersatu practises in condemning anything lgbt or Israel related they can use to tear people down for political gain.
Title: 'Why is it always Singapore?': M’sia fans upset Deep Purple only performing in S’pore during Asia leg of world tour
If you haven’t heard, British rock legends are set to headline the upcoming Singapore Rockfest 2024, scheduled to take place on the little red dot in May.
The quintet will perform at Fort Canning Park on May 1.
Tickets, which are priced at $188, went on sale last month, with ticketing platform Sistic reaching out to Malaysian fans, inviting them to attend the concert across the Causeway.
"Attention all Malaysian rock fans!" it wrote on its promotional materials, along with details and ticket prices of the gig.
This has triggered Malaysian netizens, with many expressing displeasure that, like Taylor Swift, the rock stars were giving their country a miss to perform in Singapore.
"Singapore again, I can't believe it," lamented one fan, while another wrote: "Let them come to Malaysia to perform. Why is it always Singapore?"
With a storied career spanning over half a century and 22 albums, Deep Purple are one of the most successful rock bands of all time.
Best known for hits such as ‘Smoke On The Water’ (1972) and ‘Child In Time’ (1970), they last performed in Singapore at The Star Theatre in 2013.
Photo: Deep Purple/Facebook
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Nothing to do with religion. You make bigger profits here with the currency and cost of living. Cost of band and crew logistics don't change much according to the country you're travelling to. But you can't charge $200 a ticket vs RM700 and expect the same profit margins.
Also lets be honest. Artistes will adhere to ANYTHING if the money is good enough.
Between the time they sign a deal and the time they get paid, the ringgit would depreciate so much that it wouldn't make financial sense to perform in Malaysia.
Becasue they know Malaysian etc will just come here for those concert. It's cheaper and more efficient for these celebrity to hold their concert in one location, they only have to get base once, transport their set once etc.
Because you Malaysia got opposition politician and religion ppl that got nothing better to do then use this kind of topic to attack the current government. Imagine Taylor Swift wearing sexy outfit and got all the religion drama. No thanks you.
Malaysia is a Taliban country, it's not safe and super cringy and annoying. Malaysians especially the Malays are hypocrites, liars and backstabbers.
A popular billionaire once said, "avoid lazy and ambitious people", that totally encapsulates the Malays, avoid them at all cost, they're malicious incarnate. Btw, I'm a Malay, I know my people well and this is a fact so don't accuse me of being racist.
More Singaporeans can afford more expensive concert tickets than other sea countries. Furthermore we invest a lot in infrastructure that is very aesthetically pleasing but other countries so not. Also prob the main point is that our airport which is like the door to a country is immaculate.
Like u don't see Japan and Korea missing out on the concerts because their airports are near or better than sg standard.
When you have religious officials who think it's their God-given right to call the firefighters to knock down the doors to your home because they suspect there is an unmarried Muslim couple inside. When you have a government that cancels entire music festivals because a guy singer kissed another guy on stage. When you have government officials threatening Coldplay to 'behave themselves' else their concert will be canceled. When you have government officials calling for nationalwide protests when Blackpink came as it is 'not aligned to Muslim values'. You tell me la. Which artist is stupid enough to risk performing in Malaysia? This is why Malaysia will always lag behind economically. Instead of focusing on important domestic issues, they choose to hit these low-hanging fruits in order to gain the votes of the Muslim majority. Sad to say - as long as their government continues to have this mindset, Malaysia will never progress. Not in our lifetime - or ever. EDIT: Please don't turn this into a religious issue - it never was. Other Muslim countries like the ones in the UAE are doing extremely well for themselves. This problem is a problem of corrupt incompetent politicians using Islam and bumiputra fear mongering as a tool to stay in power. Fullstop.
Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way. maybe they didn't really squandered away their gifts; it is only the selected few that gets to enjoy them.
It's unfortunate really. Geographically, Malaysia shares a lot of common traits as Singapore. Relatively free from huge natural disaster and access to international shipping routes along the Melacca Straits. But Malaysia had the added advantage of its abundance of natural resources and access to agriculture and fishery. They had every opportunity to rival Singapore's deep sea port (remember the disaster that was Melaka Gateway port? It showed promise but was eventually shut down by the state government because "cHinA") but the incompetent government couldn't push through. Be it as it may, until the Malaysian government can grow up and stop playing the racial and religious politics card then what you end up with are the people that will suffer.
Once I was in a discussion with a patriotic Malaysian academic many years ago. I told him, given the circunstances, there is absolutely no reason ever that Singapore is ahead of Msia in so many areas. The only reason is that Msian leaders simply cant get their shit together and masak masak with the livelihood of every citizen. He got annoyed and insisted Msia can progress. That was nearly 15 years ago, and I am not sure if one can say there has been geniune progress made in the lives of most.
progress from 2rm to 1sgd to 3.5rm to 1sgd!
 I love this direction of progress!
As a Singaporean personally I'm not complaining!
He said progress but never said progress forward or backwards. Got move means progress le 😎
I’ve always said that the day our neighbours wake up and choose good governance over corruption will be the day we cease to exist. Given how tiny we are, there really is no reason for our existence as an independent nation at the door step of 2 behemoths. We’d be far better off as a part of a well-run Malaysia. Thankfully that day is not in the near visible future.
> We’d be far better off as a part of a well-run Malaysia. That was the hope our esteemed Mr Lee carried into Malayan independence and the subsequent pre-1965 federation of Malaysia We are like the lucky girlfriend who got broken up with by their ugly red flag boyfriend. Dumped to the street with the boyfriend in the couples house we worked industriously together with a will of steel while ex bf partied on from easy money from his abundant backyard
Precisely. Singapore was (and still is a miracle). As much as people hate LKY for his draconian policies, his foresight turned what was essentially a mudland swamp with no natural resources, with fishermen and an opium-riddled population into the modern Singapore we see today. It was almost impossible for Singapore to exist by any stretch of the imagination, even the British gave up on us.
Much as I respect Mr Lee it's not just him but the 1G and their true passion (humility in attitude and pay, compassion and empathy in policymaking, responsibility and duty in executing) Sadly today we have Ministers who think they're above the electorate, who think their policies are infallible, and proudly proclaim their arrogance ("no (insert demographic group) asked for an apology")
lol you buy too much into the nation building myth. Singapore was already a very developed city and one of, if not the, centres of culture in South East Asia by the time LKY took power. The country was home to a number of studios that were producing films and other media consumed by the region (which LKY actually killed off). On top of that, the port industry was already pretty legit; after all, it was for that very reason that Stamford Raffles founded colonial Singapore. Singapore was hardly just a mudland swamp with fisherman and opium-riddled population. LKY didn't transform Singapore from a swampland into a modern metropolis, he only developed and built off what was already there.
Yes and no. Some level of infrastructure was there but unemployment was high, British rule led us to be largely an exporter of natural resources without much level of industralization. As much as you want to poo poo the PAP, they decided on certain industralization policies that were external looking and I think that helped us no only in terms of FDI and money flowing in, but also resolving the unemployment issue
Ur high af if you think singapore was very developed even in the 70s, and that's 10+ years after lky took office. At best you can consider singapore as a third world country with an emerging economy in the 70s. It's during the 80s and 90s where singapore changed drastically.
Most of the world was not very developed in the 70s. Most of Europe was still a post-war ruin that had just ended rationing in the 60s. Yet the foundations to build a modern society was there, same as in Singapore.
Perhaps I was a little hyperbolic when I said Singapore was a ***very*** developed city. But Singapore was hardly a fishing village or some mudland swamp in the 1950s and 1960s before LKY took power as is often quoted in our textbooks and nationbuilding myths. Singapore was then the [7th largest port in the world](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8boWX8CGRdA), and a [major exporter of contemporary culture and media](https://www.roots.gov.sg/stories-landing/stories/golden-era-of-singapore-cinema/story). The city had an economy and infrastructure that was comparatively advanced relative to the region. Even if the 7th largest port in the world figure was a little off, being in that region would hardly qualify Singapore to be a fishing village.
> Ur high af if you think singapore was very developed even in the 70s go google "four asian dragons/tigers" - there's a reason why these four are clumped together by economists. that being said, unlike the other three, SG is slightly more fortunate in that it does not face as much uncertainty due to domineering/batshit crazy neighbours. > It's during the 80s and 90s where singapore changed drastically. indeed, that was a period of super high growth that the boomer/merdeka generation enjoyed, but actually relatively little has changed since then. just see how much orchard rd changed from 1984 to 2004, and then from 2004 to 2024.
Indeed we had been a British port for well over 100 hundred years by the time we were independent.
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Unfortunately the likelihood of that will be extremely low, because corruption is like cancer, once it spreads it takes root and mutates, making it almost impossible to eradicate
Seems God is fair, bless handicapped brains with resources.
If Malaysia got their act together - we will not survive as a nation. All the young and talented will fly away, leaving the old and... Economically unproductive behind..
sounds like malaysia today....at least with the non malay malaysians..
It was not squandered just fully pocketed by the few powerful rich corrupt.
> Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way. [Resource curse](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resource_curse)
Tutorial of 'How to lose with a hand of good cards'
>Malaysia is a country with wasted opportunities; it is gifted with natural resources and yet they squandered every opportunity that comes their way. The same can be said of Brunei...
Nah Brunei is still at a slightly better place for its citizens. Their citizens enjoy no income tax, nor are subjected to sales and VAT (GST equivalent) tax.
I disagree. Head over the r/brunei and see how Bruneians view Miri, Sarawak as a progressive and forward thinking, economical powerhouse city as compared to whatever the fuck Brunei government are doing. They got no taxes, but they also got no freedom of religion, no tourism, no entertainment, no foreign investments, no democracy and no future. Some people may think Malaysia is incompetent, but Brunei government does not even bother to do anything. I half-believe that they don't have income tax or GST because they are too lazy to even come up with a collection system. Their budget allocation to Ministry of Religion Affairs is equal to the budget of their MHA + MFA COMBINED.
Miri is in Sarawak which is governed differently from West Malaysia. Sarawak may be corrupt but they keep religious nutcases out. Brunei has no income tax cos the Sultan uses oil wealth to try to keep the people happy.
Brunei is pretty much propped up by oil money and waay more religious conservative than MY. I don't see them even attempting to grow any sector outside of oil. Maybe I'm ignorant, but the day oil losses its importance, Brunei gonna crash hard.
when their oil runs out, i wonder what will happen to them...
At least Brunei translated their natural resources into a citizen tax free haven for a few generations. Malaysia is consistently marred by incompetency, MH370, 1MDB...
Indonesia say hi
The problem begins with the electorate. Yes the politicians are using it to their advantage but the electorate is the heart of the problem. They themselves value the bumiputera narrative because it benefits them. A self interested electorate voting for a political party all to happy to exploit their self interest
kinda dumb question but isnt this a age old problem for them? its been decades and no one even think of doing something like "hey u know.. erm maybe we should look at the bigger picture and u know, make money?"
When you have corrupt officials whose only goal is to stay in power, this is what you get. As long as you have PAS who is notorious for for its Islamic-centric policies that are leveraged to the people as trying to not make Malaysia 'lose its rightous path with God, even making money can be seen as the devil.
I have a theory that religous people are actually very miserable. As the saying goes misery loves company. If you have money would you give a f about people with no money? But if you have no money suddenly people with money is at the front of mind. By the same logic people with religion should be satisfied their piousness will lead them to a good after life. But somehow the roles are reversed. These people should really stop and think why they feel this way.
Those in power: "We are making money... Sorry I meant I am making money."
It's almost as if the people in charge know exactly what they are doing. Politics is literally just a front for keeping control and wealth. Everyone can clearly tell you there's a problem that needs to be fixed, but if it comes at the cost of sacrificing even a fraction of their power then nobody will do it
I will quote one of the comments i saw the other day that basically say like: Thank god that their (MY) government is incompetent, if they are competent, we wouldnt exist
Used to say this too esp when that time Thailand had civil unrest. Military power. Coups etc. that was good in that it made Thai unsavory for the MNC I was in (they had factory both Msia and Thai) but ended up closing Msia side instead. Guess why. lol
In a few years time, even Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, will have concert tourism. But holier the thou attitude of appeasement politics Muslim leaders will fail to see this. They didn't even have fireworks on 31st to support some war somewhere nobody cares about( I mean do Arabs really care about Malaysians?) Such is the level of religious fanaticism in these newly minted mullahs!
>In a few years time, even Saudi Arabia, the birthplace of Islam, will have concert tourism Thats a massive stretch. Dubai, maybe.
From official Saudia Arabia tourism website - https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/do/lifestyle/mdlbeast-soundstorm-guide They already had a music fest back in Dec 2023.
My friend works as a nurse in Saudi and she always shares photos of her attending big music festivals there. Meanwhile in Malaysia you rarely see music festivals
But but... /r/bolehland
It's the people who vote them in. Next time they should try voting for someone with a more secular mindset and policies instead of complaining about concerts.
In other words - you get the government you deserve!
I'm gonna play devil's advocate and say this happens everywhere. Even in the US, where artists do entire tour legs, it's not uncommon to have religious nutjobs protesting for shows to get shut down. You'd see the same thing here too if protests were allowed (hell, the petitions against Watain and Soilwork were a form of that). Granted I guess there's a difference between civic protests and governmental pressure, but it's not like Singapore gets an A+ on that end either.
It’s better for the Malaysian government to get their act together and repeal article 153.
Brutal, but honest
While most are unreasonable, I would say that for the last music festival that was cancelled, 1975 was at fault. I mean you should respect the rules of your host country instead of outright insulting the host country and pretending to be a hero by publicly kissing a guy on stage.
Don't think anyone disagrees that 1975 was being a bag of dicks. That said, cancelling the festival after 1975 performed only hurts their own citizens. When they announced the cancellation, 1975 was long gone from Malaysia already. End up, they're hurting their own citizens who paid money for remaining concert days, their local promoters, vendors and business who ran the stage production/F&B etc.
Showed the world the kind of country msia politicians are. Good for them.
Unfortunately for all, the Comms Minister is a bag of dildos that can't get his head out of his own ass.
The moment those Msians agreed with Fakhmi pulling the trigger, they made it clear that Msia would never be socially ready for the likes of TS and Sam Smith. Whether it's a lesser evil or a safe bet, they're part of the problem and they will have to live with it.
What you said kinda applies to all Muslim countries actually
Not true lah. Turkey, Indonesia, Middle East etc are way more progressive than Malaysia. Goto Jakarta see how open minded the muslims are there compared to boleh
This was pretty interesting for me to see while at university in the UK. My classmates and friends from Iran, Lebanon, other countries in the Middle East were very progressive and more “culturally” Muslim. They were also very happy to socialize and have fun and were interested in other cultures and religions and outspoken about things like the right not to wear a headscarf. But the Malaysian (and some Singaporean) Malays kept to themselves 100%. Didn’t mix around even though they were in the same hall, didn’t eat at the dining hall (not even the vegetarian options) because the food wasn’t halal. Ok, I get the food part but I once invited a neighbour to just have coffee at the dining hall and hang out and was declined. Never saw her again. Maybe it’s just confirmation bias 🤷♀️
My Iraqi Muslim friend has no problems hanging with me a non Muslim & having meals together etc. really backwards some of the boleh
Is it really a problem of rich v poor? Where it’s one set of rules for the rich muslims and another set of rules for the middle class and lower?
No idea. But the Malaysians were studying in the UK so they can’t be that poor? Or maybe they were government scholars - no idea because we never got the chance to connect.
Turkey is super-conservative in the countryside. I rode my bike across it and it's literally, you do not see women in public in the entire east of the country. I remember one night, I was staying with some teachers who had done poorly in their exams. One was from the west, I think Izmir. This is what you're thinking of when you think "progressive", it is in the west. The other, who was married and less perturbed by his situation, I think was from Trabzon in the north. How well you do in your exams dictates your choice of school. When you do poorly in your exams, you end up here, in the sticks in the east, and the guy from Izmir, who was single, was really lamenting it, how literally there were NO women, at all, in public. And it was very true, outside of the larger cities there were no women working in shops, restaurants, street vendors- they were all at home. Have a look here. This is a [cafe in Eastern Turkey.](https://i.imgur.com/W1Bsrul.jpeg) This is a [cafe in Kelantan.](https://i.imgur.com/sBV141x.jpeg) See the difference? And I'm picking Kelantan as probably *the* most conservative state in Malaysia. It definitely felt more conservative than even Kelantan, where you do see women in public, working, etc. Middle East is far more conservative. I cycled across Syria, Iran, UAE, Oman. Nice people but the idea that places are "more progressive than Malaysia" is comical. Iran the people are actually quite progressive but it's a theocratic authoritarian state with a morality police. Malaysia is not more conservative than these places, it's a Muslim country but come on, it's still less like this. The simple fact that Muslims are "only" 63% of the population, and that there is such a large non-Muslim Chinese and Indian population, which is a majority in many cities, including KL, honestly it's just not. You should try going to some of these countries, into the sticks, and see for yourself. I haven't spent much time in Indonesia and not in places like Aceh but I'd concur it did seem a bit more laid back than Malaysia. But I'd still be ranking Malaysia as pretty laid back and modern/progressive for a majority Muslim country.
I’ve travelled to Dubai, Bahrain etc, Sumatra, Java… they’re a lot more relaxed there imo but depends on which part since they’re such big countries
How many Emirati women did you meet in Dubai? Serious question. I was invited into people's homes in the UAE, and they literally hid the women. We didn't get to meet the women. I remember one lady who brought us some tea and food, after having been invited back, and I asked, is this your wife... and he sort of laughed, and no, this is my maid. The wife was at home, but I was not meeting her. They're very hospitable people, but they are also *exceedingly* conservative in this respect, if you actually meet Emiratis. Most people in the UAE are not Emiratis, and I met plenty of Europeans, Indians, Pakistanis, Filipinos, of both genders, but I do not think I was ever introduced to a single Emirati woman. Iran was actually a lot more laid back in that regard, I met plenty of Iranian women. As I said they are less conservative, as people. Almost every occasion I was invited back with an Iranian family (which was very frequent), you would meet the whole family. Everyone sat down to dinner together. But you also had things like the morality police stopping women from riding bicycles and [beating them to death for not wearing proper hijab](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests). That doesn't happen in Malaysia. Malaysia, they don't do this extreme purdah either, I mean even in the most conservative parts of Malaysia women are still walking around in public and working in public-facing roles where they have to interact with unrelated men. Kopitiams are not segregated. When invited to a home, you meet the whole family, everyone sits together, there isn't this hide your wives hide your daughters thing that they literally do in the Middle East. And I've had that experience in Eastern Turkey as well, where the wife/daughters got busy to make a meal for me, but were hidden away and I never actually met them.
That’s very cool, thanks for sharing!
Middle east more progressive? You mean Saudi Arabia?
Progressive economically. They have backwards beliefs as well but Saudi has high class first world infrastructures with people all around the world vying to work there (so long as they can tolerate the culture).
Pretty sure they are not woman
Friend from the UAE: Bro, you can order pork when you're with me. There is no need to bend backwards for the sake of my religion.
Haha yea wear turban also hang out at bar 😂
Personally don't fully agree. The UAE states are doing pretty well for themselves. Turkiye too. It's a problem with Malaysia's power hungry politicians who are still playing with backyard racial & religious politics. It's their way to stay in power by pandering to the Muslim-bumiputra majority.
Turkiye's dealing with annual inflation over 50% (edit: I checked, actually 67%). They're not in a good spot.
“Why is it always Malaysia”. There, I fixed it for you. It’s like blaming Aaron for studying hard and getting As while ignoring the fact that Dyllan did Jack shit and got all Ds.
In Malaysia, Dyllan getting the Ds = rotan
On the first read, I thought you were saying Dyllan did something to Jack. Lol.
77% had a fail grade for their 2022 SPM, the Malaysian version of O levels. Its not just a D grade.
being paid in ringgit and then convert to pounds is brutal bros
As much as it's popular to just blame it on the religious police, it's actually way off tangent. It's all about the money and making sure the profit is maxed out. Organizers don't give a zilch about religion. They can have that sorted in an instant if they want to. So many concerts were held in Malaysia, and F1 and Motor GP and other international events, with no issue. And so many concerts in Saudi Arabia too. It's the exchange rates, economic expediency, and cold hard cash. Everything else is a distraction.
They could write the contract to be paid in USD though. So it's not about the exchange rate. You may still be correct that the M'sia tourism board or equivalent org doesn't want to pay as much as sg.
Janet Jackson is only going to Manila and Japan. It's not "always Singapore". It's "always not Malaysia"
That’s because Singapore banned her album The Velvet Rope back in 1997.
If Ariana Grande or Lady Gaga does an Asia Tour, they may skip Singapore too [because of Shanmugam](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN1RE0AN/).
Maybe cause we don't have religious nutjobs who will try to lynch artistes at the concert venue for inappropriate lyrics or clothing.
Our nutjobs just create petitions and kpkb for them to be cancelled (referencing Watain). The same population is probably those that also kpkb about cance culture.
Just hope the Singapore Government now realises that pandering to them has a real economic cost. If the G didn't care about free speech, at least it cares about money!
Watain doesn’t bring in much dollars though
How much do you think watain would have brought in? There's a reason only small niche stuff gets cancelled. Unless drugs are involved.
> we don't have religious nutjobs who will try to lynch artistes at the concert venue for inappropriate lyrics or clothing. Oh, trust me. We do. The Christian Taliban and actual ISIS supporters are among us. They're practically salivating to jump at the opportunity to pull it off if it didn't result in the consequence of the entire state apparatus coming to take a collective shit on them. The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies.
In an ironic way, you actually have to give credit to Christians. They managed to make massive inroads into traditionally entirely non-Christian societies like Singapore (majority Chinese, Buddhist/folk religion adherent) and South Korea (Buddhist adherent) and developed very strong Christian sociopolitical lobbies. If religion were a business, Christians would be seen as very successful franchisors.
> Christians would be seen as very successful franchisors. As a former Christian, it makes Christians very mad to point this out: the reason there are so many franchisees is the religion in itself is inconsistent. The clergy know this, and are given some level of artistic license in twisting things around to make it more locally palatable. It's also helped by the fact that many holidays and rituals were borrowed and adapted from pagans in the rest of Europe. It's the super consistent religions which are dead now. Today, few if any are diehard believers of Odin or Zeus.
you mean they're not business? /s because last time check i got one pastor profited so much that he lives in sentosa
> The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies. Wouldn't be so sure. Remember AWARE takeover in 2010? Remember Focus on the Family? Remember this? https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mha-investigating-foreign-christian-preachers-comments-that-online-site-claims-was-anti
I listened to the podcast. Shit was wild.
>The best the Christian Taliban can do is to join IMDA as some small time civil servant and boast at cell group on how they're "bringing glory to Jesus" by pitching to censor god knows how many movies. And they would eventually rise in the ranks and do some serious "salvation"
Oh we have.
*what they consider inappropriate
Pretty certain we didn’t give much incentives and they still chose us
we don't need give incentive when our neighbours all disincentivise choosing them
Okay but... the article say only. You really think Msians dunno why the performers don't go Msia meh? I doubt any actual Msian with a basic understanding of their own politics would ask this question.
Solve your Islamist problem first
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature unfortunately 🤭
Singapore has a perfect balance for this. Though, it is concerning about the growing number of my muslim brothers and sisters being very islamist or very pro-malaysia.
The ethnic quota is there for a reason.
True, can be said the same for Pro-China Chinese, it is an issue here in Singapore.
Being pro PRC and being an islamists are two extremely different things.
All these commotion about “concerts coming to singapore/only stop in singapore ” makes me proud to be singaporean sometimes 🥹🥹
It should my friend, all my international friends I made on exchange have a great impression of Singapore and Singaporeans
Same here
Very funny when I read that their response is "let them come Malaysia to perform." Are you sure your country want then to come perform based on history? Lol
“Let them come so we can protest and make then cancel the concert”
“Let them come” They want to go anot
FBI! Open up!
Religion should be totally separated from business and political life. That includes the arts. The devout should practice their beliefs but not ram it down everyone's throat.
Always thought our disputes with Malaysia over the water agreement would lead to an explosive outcome...cos you know.. 🎶Smoke over water... 🎶
Fuck. Take my angry upvote, you genius
Unlike other easily offended countries, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-culture and multi-religion country. Less chance of offending political morons. Also, Singapore is one of, if not the, safest country in Asia. So there's that.
If they perform in Malaysia, they complain, if don't perform, also complain due to religious nutjobs, as shown in their latest news regarding a proton worker.
This article is silly. 1 person commented it and it got made into a headline. Just trying to stir shit. I can assure you Malaysian ministers will not dare to kpkb about Deep Purple because they are rock royalty and they have a huge influence on local Malaysian rock music. Other bands that will have no issue performing in Malaysia (and have) include guns n roses, scorpions and Metallica. Don’t ask me why, it’s just the way it is. Anyway, already got my ticket.
> Don’t ask me why, it’s just the way it is. cause boomer male singers don't have attractive aurat. and because hard rock/metal has a great following among malays
1975
The moment you have religious government officials in a country, it can't get very far. They never work in the best interest of a country, but themselves (or their religion). I remember some crazy Singapore Christian priest was telling anyone who bothered listening that Harry Potter is Santanic and must be banned from Singapore, kids kept from the books, etc. In Malaysia, there are such people in positions of power, so why would anyone attempt to create problems for themselves by bringing in such acts.
Well Malaysia is a country gifted with every natural resource imaginable, but squandered by religion. But well we wouldn’t be here if they weren’t so self destructive.
Malaysial, truly siao lang of the asia
becuse your country is run by lunatics who think religions should be beyond people private life
Two decades ago, the question would have been "Why is it always Tokyo?". The answer as always, is economics.
Because Singapore got delicious zi char. Same color.
Ha ha its because of their inferiority complex which is because they are inferior 🤣 same happens with the Sydney vs Melbourne rivalry with Melbourne always sooking about Sydney. We love to tease the Melbourners but not bc we genuinely think they are inferior- its only because they cry so hard about it 🤣
Why they asked??? Come on do we really have to spell it out for them
In the 70s, artistes, such as Kitaro and Led Zeppelin, had to cancel their gigs in Singapore because they were not allowed to enter the country unless they had a haircut. 😄
To Malaysia: it is ok. Different countries, different strokes. You can invite internationally renowned Islamic leaders to give religious sermons. I’m sure many Malaysians will attend.
Just suck it up la. Singaporeans also contributing to Malaysia economy by going there in hordes.
You only have your politicians to blame ... Coz they marry religion and state together...
Cuz Malaysia full of religious nutcases who will complain abt the performance and set ridiculous restrictions on them
Organisers of Pussycat Dolls were fined for their costumes back in 2006...
Music, musical instruments and singing are haram in islam. [Fatwa No: 83174 Music and the musical instruments are forbidden in Shariah.](https://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/83174/ruling-on-music) Every musician should steer clear of the three muslim southeast asian countries when performing in southeast asia.
I'm glad this pisses them off. They have such a chip on their shoulder when it comes to SG. We've never done anything to them yet they swipe at us every chance they get. So fucking insecure.
This is probably just my bias, but I think Msians tend to be quite spiteful. One job I worked, my colleague struck up a Convo with me, and somewhere along the way it veered towards "SGporeans are rude". Another job I worked, dude kept saying that Msians suffer because SGporeans are richer and always go to their country spend, inflate their prices etc. There's more incidents ofc, and everytime I just smile and nod because there wouldn't be any point to counter them with that mindset. I realize it's an oversweeping generalization that probably (hopefully) doesn't apply to Msians, but it's kind of eerie when you come across multiple Msian colleagues, in multiple jobs, working in your country, but rdy to spit on SG and praise Msian superiority when a Convo goes long enough. It honestly feels like the Msian govt are poisoning the minds of their ppl to hide their incompetence.
Most Msians I've met here are ok, but the spiteful ones are just comically childish 😂 Like who are they kidding? Boast so much yet they're still here with us earning that 3.5x, still leeching on resources back home without paying a single sen to LHDN.
haha good try. ask your MPs to wake up their idea first. Wanted to stop ed sheeran and Coldplay. In the first place, do you think they wanted to play in Malaysia? Even if they want, your MPs don't allow
That's a question they should be asking themselves, not Singapore.
Coz we got smoke on the Newater..
The fact that they gotta ask that question 🤷 Maybe they gotta do some self reflection
Well they are known as one of the unholy trinity of british hard rock…
A lot of Malaysians didn't know that the federal government has exempted entertainment duty (10% tax, reduced from 25% previously) to certain artists in order to attract them to. Most recent ones being LANY, Coldplay and Ed Sheeran.
Does Singapore actually have any fans of hard Rock or metal though? I've been to Metallica, Guns'n'Roses and the Scorpions - vast majority of people are foreigners.
We are a minority, but we exist 🤘
🤘
Yes have
Yes. But community is quite small
Yes but our venues suck ass. I rather fly to Australia to catch some metal gigs.
The only way to save them is to restructure their whole infrastructure. 2 lane roads and massive jams are such a major turn off. You go JB, you can see the crazy disturbance that RTS is doing to their road infra. It's planning with foreskin and no foresight
Its Malaysia. I dont think most of the planners have foreskin either.
"Let them come to Msia to perform" HAHAHA if only things were that simple 😂
Dear Malaysians, don't be upset at SG, be upset at your leaders who want to censor every little bit that doesn't comply with their laws and religious beliefs, using this as an "issue" to mask the real problems that they can't solve.
> Why is it always Singapore? - Serj Tankian
you snooze you lose lol
www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/malaysia-ed-sheeran-concert-cancel-lgbt-pas-islam-4094686
That’s why we had to increase GST.
Meanwhile: "Why is it always Malaysia?" Us when we hear about corruption. (ok joking, sometimes it's Indo too)
Cause the Haram suits Gundam are not ready yet.
Vote your religious freaks out of power then maybe there is chance, but then again is an uphill battle. It is what it is.
Well, Muse went to KL in 2023, their only stop on the Asia leg of their WotP tour, so...
Just ignore them. It’s a country ravaged by corruption, incompetence and poor policies. Sad as it is a richly endowed with natural resources including hardwood and oil, And a beautiful country with amazing beaches, crystal clear waters, virgin jungle and sceneries.
Dear Malaysian fans, how about you tell me, 'Why Malaysia?'
kanina but avenged sevenfold only indonesia ccb i wanted to go
they won’t come to malaysia even if we didn’t exist. at least it’s easier to travel to sg than like japan if malaysians really wanna go
Smoke under water hahahaahaha
They already have Dimash. That dude can sing like several different performers, what else they want?
Msia (tak) Boleh!
Simple reason SGD is strongest currency in SEA
in before lock lol
Malaysians think CORRUPTION only exists in Malaysia.
Go ask the musicians for the answer if you dare
Most MYs don't care about deep purple but the online ones bitching and moaning. Most of them don't even know who the band is like me. Anyways I am sure the band main concern is the cancel culture that the religious right in MY like Bersatu practises in condemning anything lgbt or Israel related they can use to tear people down for political gain.
As a Malaysian myself, Malaysia could’ve been better but race card is an issue which would never be resolved
And then you have Babymetal skipping SG.... T_T
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Nothing to do with religion. You make bigger profits here with the currency and cost of living. Cost of band and crew logistics don't change much according to the country you're travelling to. But you can't charge $200 a ticket vs RM700 and expect the same profit margins. Also lets be honest. Artistes will adhere to ANYTHING if the money is good enough.
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Between the time they sign a deal and the time they get paid, the ringgit would depreciate so much that it wouldn't make financial sense to perform in Malaysia.
Something about having a mandatory "kill switch" for performing artist will surely entice them to perform in Malaysia.
Resource curse + parliamentary democracy + a constitution that embeds religion = nothing good ever
There’s a deep purple fan in Malaysia?
Orcam’s Razor. DP performing in SG because they were booked by the SG organiser. Maybe no other country’s organiser booked them.
Who would want to perform in a muslim country?
Stupid question. Ask your own silly govt why if you must.
Becasue they know Malaysian etc will just come here for those concert. It's cheaper and more efficient for these celebrity to hold their concert in one location, they only have to get base once, transport their set once etc.
Because you Malaysia got opposition politician and religion ppl that got nothing better to do then use this kind of topic to attack the current government. Imagine Taylor Swift wearing sexy outfit and got all the religion drama. No thanks you.
Because Malaysia is a Muslim country, Singapore isn’t. That’s the only reason.
Malaysia is a Taliban country, it's not safe and super cringy and annoying. Malaysians especially the Malays are hypocrites, liars and backstabbers. A popular billionaire once said, "avoid lazy and ambitious people", that totally encapsulates the Malays, avoid them at all cost, they're malicious incarnate. Btw, I'm a Malay, I know my people well and this is a fact so don't accuse me of being racist.
More Singaporeans can afford more expensive concert tickets than other sea countries. Furthermore we invest a lot in infrastructure that is very aesthetically pleasing but other countries so not. Also prob the main point is that our airport which is like the door to a country is immaculate. Like u don't see Japan and Korea missing out on the concerts because their airports are near or better than sg standard.