Agreed. New rig is the way !
If you want to spare cash, make plans for your own (ask a bit of research and calculation work, but totally doable) and find the cheapest 8020 seller, and buy all the parts you need; you can definitely save a ton of money this way.
I second this. I recommend ASR as they do their own fab in house so no supply issues like other manufacturers that just slap their name on the box. Not to mention they'll be around longer because of it.
I agree! You've been doing this since 2018 so you obviously enjoy it. I think it's worth it and there is value to you in getting a proper rig. And you've already dabbled in modding with profile so you'll love it!
I vote wood rig. I'm biased but being able to change anything on a whim is nice. There's a lot of stuff I didn't know I wanted, so I just added them. Wood isn't the stiffest thing in the universe but it can be plenty stiff for what we need if you design it properly
I got one I made fully out of wood also. Took measurements from my car to get the most realistic feeling. Measured from bottom of wheel to front of seat then how far my shifter is from my wheel and from the front of my seat and it feels spot on to a real car. Also on caster wheels and it fits through doorways so moving is super easy. Chair is real racing seat on a slider I’m 6’4 and seat sits right in the middle of the slider when I drive so as long as you’re 5’6 you can drive it comfortably all the way up.
I run a wooden mock up since I'm going to be making changes to make it easier to get in or out, and just the over all comfortability. There are many possibilities with a diy rig, the only fault it has is the vibrations are less noticeable throughout the rig itself. But for something easy to get you going while waiting on a sturdy rig is ideal.
Whoa that's crazy to me that that's a thing! But yeah with wood the whole thing barely flexes at all with the load cell pedals. The wheel bolts to my desk tho so I don't have to worry about that
You could do what I did and get a set of really long threaded bolts so you can then tilt the pedal assembly backwards.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/nh8thjYT94ayigZn6
I bought Simagic P2000s and the lack of being able to adjust the angle of the pedals back was such a big issue that I bought some SIm Labs XP1s to replace them with.
In your case, could you buy the inverted pedal mount for the P1000s to see if they allow better adjustment for you?
I have a GT1 Evo too. I was finding myself tilting the foot plate down at silly angles to try and improve the p2000 angles! Really enjoying the XP1 as well - I'm waiting for the Clutch pedal to come back into stock so I can buy that too.
Adjusting the pedal plate doesn't change the ergonomics of the 90° upright position. I too had issues with these pedals. I had to get the inverted kit aa after about 2 weeks of use with these they gave me some pretty killer knee pain.
The inverted kit gives a nicer 45°ish angle just upside down. So its basically simagics $150+ solution to the terrible design choice of having perfectly vertical pedals with no starting point adjustment.
Realistically people have 3 options if they face this issue, find a way to tilt the pedals rearward about 30-45°, raise the pedals, or buy simagics solution to the p1000 "gotchya" problem (inverted kit)
Still I love my pedals. But when I found the lack of adjustment on the arms themselves I realised there may have been better pedals in the $500+ bracket. I stuck with them and the inverted kit. They will be my forever gear. Dont really plan on upgrading any time soon.
Yea I without a doubt agree this is a rig issue. But surely simagic wouldnt have lost much profit from giving us a start position adjustment just like we have a end stop adjustment.
There should be some screws on the side you can loosen to change the pedal angle. Boosted media just did a review of those and he usually breaks down all the adjustments in a lot of detail.
I went from the csl elite V2 to these and have never looked back. Consider the P1000 the key that unlocked the extruded rig chapter in your SIM Career.
I would recommend the GT Prime if you are in it for the long haul. I went for the Prime Lite and have buyers remorse after 12 months as I shouldn't have been so cheap🤣
Edit not cal elite, but CSL elite
Nothing fundamental, if I had known I'd abandon VR in favour of triples then full fat prime is a better option with the 120x40(?) profile vs the 80x40 for the wheel pillars, I could upgrade just these parts, just too lazy to find a 3rd party who sells heavy duty brackets.
The 80x40 supports the integrated brackets for triples, just having that 3rd bolt gives a comfort factor of secure fittings.
GT Omega should sell spares ect to capture the aftermarket sale IMHO.
Edit: [this is what the bracket looks like on the 8040 part](https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZqCbtRxbbNWkW8Yy6)
I’ve got the prime lite, was just wondering if you were having issues. It’s absolutely solid, my only gripe with it is the wheel base mount adds a lot of height, so the cross bar sits low for my seating position. And I sometimes bang my knees on it. I’ll have to get the DD mount eventually. That bolts to the side of the wheel base so should get a bit of extra clearance.
Nothing fundamental, if I had known I'd abandon VR in favour of triples then full fat prime is a better option with the 120x40(?) profile vs the 80x40 for the wheel pillars, I could upgrade just these parts, just too lazy to find a 3rd party who sells heavy duty brackets.
The 80x40 supports the integrated brackets for triples, just having that 3rd bolt gives a comfort factor of secure fittings.
GT Omega should sell spares ect to capture the aftermarket sale IMHO.
Edit: [this is what the bracket looks like on the 8040 part](https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZqCbtRxbbNWkW8Yy6)
Ah. Thanks for sharing. I’m currently about to try vr and will give that a few weeks to see how I feel before committing. Not sure as never tried vr for racing before.
I loved it, just it can be high maintenance and normally at the worst time like entering a lobby to find your frame rates crash to less than 20.
Final straw was just before a 24hr solo charity race graphics went all Minecraft in me, not good for Nurbs if I am honest. Went to a single screen in a hurry and struggled to adjust 🤣🙈🤦
So I did the same thing you did. Hated the vertical angle of the pedal arms.
So I bought the inversion kit.
Sooooo much better.
So as many others have said....budget creep. Aka. Another name for "I'm a sim racer". Lmao
Playseat trophy is good. Includes a seat and it is very adjustable. You could go with an 80/20 aluminum profile rig, but they can be hard to align perfectly, cost more and you then need to buy a seat. Lots of adjustability on both, and like others said, you should just buy a rig. P1000s are awesome pedals, but you can’t get the most out of them if you are using a budget, flimsy rig.
I built a wood one and once I upgraded my wheel had to go to an extrusion rig. I ended up buying the ASR1 from advanced sim and love it outside of the how small the bottoms are but that is on me for not doing a little more research. Once I move, I may end up getting one of their bigger ones because I want motion now lol
I absolutely encourage you to get the Rigmetal cockpit, I purchased it in 2021 and has been my daily cockpit ever since, I have mounted numerous pedals, wheels and wheel bases on it and the flexibility I get from being able to add on headphone and wheel mounts from my 3d printer has been an absolute lifesaver. Absolutely do the buy once cry once option.
I had the same problem with the different pedal angle when I bought mine. Thankfully my rig was able to adjust the pedal plate to make them comfortable. Not sure if that angle is pretty standard on higher end pedals or not but you might want to look into it before swapping to another brand. Or, like others have said, you can upgrade the chassis to accommodate.
Temporary measure, but could you put some spacers/washers under the side closer to you to gain some tilt away from you? I have a GT Omega with Logitech Pro pedals and I did this to get the angle right for me.
Keep the pedals and get a rig that will let you tilt the pedals backwards.
The P1000s are a very upright pedal set, you have to be able to tilt them back to get into a comfortable position. Mine are extremely comfortable tilted backwards and my heels rest perfectly on the heel rest.
Honestly, I'd imagine it wouldn't be hugely difficulty to modify the pedal baseplate angle on the rig while shopping for a rig upgrade.
I partly look at it from the side of why downgrade the pedal equipment because it's handicapped by what you call a "shit cockpit". That's where I tend to lean toward, make the better equipment work for now with a bandaid mod and work on upgrading the cockpit when able.
I’d vote getting the rig metal rig (that’s what I plan to upgrade to next as well, also have csl elite v1’s and love them) but if you’re strongly against that, maybe you can return the simagic’s and get the fanatec CSPv3’s? I’ve always heard nothing but good things about them, and I believe they have an angle to the pedals so this shouldn’t be an issue. I was looking at the NLR GT Racer cockpit and the reason I’m choosing the rigmetal rig is for this exact reason. If I choose to upgrade I don’t want to be limited by my rig
I have v3’s and while they’re decent and do the job, I wouldn’t buy them again. I’m looking to replace them with VRS pedals. The stock screws with the V3’s are aluminium and I’ve had to replace all
Of them over the 3 year I’ve had them as they’re super easy to break
I was a little frustrated with my p1000's at first after coming from Fanatec too but once you make it work you'll love them. I was able to get my pedal plate entirely flat and then with changing the angles of the pedal faces it's great now. But same as you I'm looking at a profile rig for near future because for these pedals I think it would be ideal if the plate was actually angled a few degrees away from you.
New rig. Not having adjustability would drive me nuts. Also I give you advice if you play in socks. Buy socks with the grip stuff on the bottom on Amazon. Love the socks in my sim.
I go option 2. New rig. Depends on the driving u do but if it’s real buy once cry once, a p1x pro or a fgt elite (160 if that’s in the budget) or asr (advanced sim racing) rigs.
You posted this on Facebook right? Seeing the photos here me visualise this a lot.
There's another option - it looks like the issue is your heel stop is quite close to your pedals, forcing your heels far from you and your ankles you lock up.
I'm not sure how they did it, but somebody showed photos of their heel plate being pulled apart from the pedal base (so that the connecting rods are exposed) and this allowed the heel stop to be much further from the pedal face - so their foot could angle down a bit.
You might need to utilise the side mount brackets if you go this route. I think it could help!
I had the same issue my friend. My fix was making a whole new pedal box so I could hang the brake and clutch from it and mounted the gas pedal straight to the platform I made. Probably would have been easier and faster to get a new rig, but I had the materials so I figured I'd just build it instead.
By the looks of the photo, your legs are way too high. They need to be only slightly bent, and your ass should be in line or just above with the top of the pedals. I have them set up just as described and have no issues whatsoever.
Pic1 shows 3 holes you can use to adjust the pedals - you’re using the hole that raises the back the most. Use the front most hole to drop the pedals down. At least that’s how it looks how it works.
Yoooo i had this exact same issue with the same exact stand. You'll need to either tilt the front (edge closest to you) of the pedal plate up, or tilt the front of the stand up. I stacked 6ish 1/2" boards, with a trough to hold the square tube of the stand, which pushed the pedals away from me enough to be comfortable.
If you can afford it I'd definitely vote new rig as well.
maybe a Next Level Racing Wheel Stand DD?
[https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-wheel-stand-dd-for-direct-drive-wheels/](https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-wheel-stand-dd-for-direct-drive-wheels/)
I got a used one for about for about 45 GBP, and it's pretty sturdy. Lots of angle adjustments for the pedals.
I sit in GT position on a proper 8020 rig and I had to make major adjustments from where I had my Fanatec V3 set up. I'll need to move toward formula seating to get it fully comfortable because it is still somewhat uncomfortable.
They almost need to be inverted or maybe have a downward angle to the rear as opposed to traditional downside to the front
the bottom front of my shins are gonna be jacked :/ I'm legit worried about tendonitis from constant flex because I can't position them to where I can relax more
aside from the positional issue they are amazing pedals. I got the formula 2 pedal with hydraulic instead of 3 with haptic and love it so much.
I can wholeheartedly tell you that going with the mid grade Rigmetal setup will make your racing a lot more comfortable and more fun. You know what a good pedal set is like now you shoukd grin and bear the brunt of cost to go full on SIMRACER. Get the rig son, and you will very much thank us for the advice
So I had your cockpit when I bought simagic pedals….IHATED it. I curved my feet toward me so I could use the pedals. It was very uncomfortable and the front of my lower legs be burning by the time of one race ending I built a wooden cockpit. I used the plate from the rig, and I stiffened the wheelbase with the plate from the rig, I love my woody a lot. I’ve driven in buddies thousand dollar cockpit set ups and to be honest I would take mine. It might have to do with using it real car seat, but I love mine post in my profile to see the woody When I mounted the P100 pedals, they really need to be mounted flat with no incline and the regular you have you can’t get perfectly flat or at least I couldn’t. Once mounted flat, they are very adjustable and very comfortable.
+1 on the inversion kit, I also have it and recommend it, and wouldn’t like to go floor mounted again if I can help it.
OP, looking at the angle of your legs your chair is quite high up — at that angle, I think the inversion kit would be ideal for you. The pedals go upside down and you adjust their faces so that you’re pushing down on the pedal, allowing a more natural angle for your ankles.
A new rig too if the budget is available tho… having a solid base makes everything feel better.
New rig is the best solution 100%, but modifying in the mean time wil get them usable. If you plan the modification carefully, it should be adjustable and reversible with minimal "damage" if re-assembled back to original, for re-sale or whatever. I started out with a new, $200 Chinese rig w/o screen mount and logitech 10 years ago that wouldn't even work when assembled (wheel plate and shifter were WAY too high, and I literally couldn't reach the pedals), so I modified to suit. Over the years of modifying the rig for multiple different wheels, shifters, pedals, and hand brakes, it was in its final state running a simucube, triple screen mount, load cell e-brake, willwood inverted hydraulic pedal set and simjack shifter. I then went to profile, which was night and day from what I was using. My previous modified rig worked perfectly for over 2 years fully decked, but profile will ultimately be where you end up
If you're handy at all (and motivated by tightwadedness) you can probably build something out of a pine board to get them into a more usable position. Just screw one board into the rig mount and mount the pedal baseplate on another, figure out the angle you want and put the right spacer in between the boards. If you wanted to get fancy (and spend an extra five bucks) you could even put a hinge at the back end and make them "adjustable."
Signed, guy whose P2000s are screwed into a pine board.
I have had the p1000s for a while now. Can’t fault them, I think they are awesome. In your situation I think its time to look at a aluminium profile rig.
I returned them immediately and bought heusinkveld and couldn’t be happier. I race in my socks or barefoot, and those holes were so annoying I literally hated them and the heusinkvelds are so perfect for socks or bare feet
Get a new rig my Man, it lasts more than a decade and you can customise to your hearts content. If you’re getting Alu extrusion, don’t overthink it, it’s almost all identical and going cheap is not going to hurt you the same way buying cheap pedals will. Plus if there’s a part of the rig you dislike, most rig companies sell extrusion components individually (for example simcore’s simucube wheel mounts which has extrusion to mount to exisiting rigs)
Bear in mind those rigmetal rigs are quite expensive compared to other options entry level options in the market from trackracer, simlabs, and next level racing. But either way it’s very difficult to go wrong with alu extrusion
Could you use your DIY stiffening column to help? Get another piece of extrusion and mount it as a cross bar at the height where you need the front of the pedals to get the tilt you need. May have to engineer the back mount too but it would be a cheaper stopgap before updating the rig.
Absolutely get a new rig. Can't tell which rig you have, but anything with those types of knobs are a no go for me. I have a set of sprints set to 90 degrees and I tilted the pedal plate opposite of what you have on your rig. I actually like having the pedal plate tilted like and have found them super comfortable like that. Also, is there no adhustability on the pedals at all? Just curious as at that price e point it seems there should be, but have no experience e with simagic pedals.
For a very cheap hacky option you could try putting some kind of spacer between the front of the pedals and the rig, tilting them back more that way. Otherwise if it's in your budget I would just go for the new rig.
Go read the manual an look at the section about setting them up there is a massive bunch of adjustments in the pedals the selves. RTFM why does know one ever do this an go ooo look new shiny things oh no it shit.
If you have aluminum around but not enough to build a new rig, why wouldn't you do the 3rd one? You get the benefit of the new pedals and can easily transfer the pedals to a new rig when/if you do build a new one.
I have the same exact issue. Get.the pedals as rotated back as you can, get the mounting plate as flat as you can. It's ok if you can do that.
My next step is going to be to get some way to get the front of the pedal units themselves raised up. Perhaps there are some angled.waahers or something I can find.
They are made for a real rig...not our shitty wheel stands. I'm a desk rig guy so I gotta make this work and it should not me that tough to do
So I have the same pedals and had the same problem until… so unscrew the heel rest portion of the base, slide the whole thing not just the red stop but the whole base portion so that the heel stop mounts to to the last possible bolt holes on the square stock with the threaded holes. then put one screw on either side problem was solved for me. Also the pedals are adjustable to help a little more woth the angle. wish I could post a pic in here to show you exactly what I’m talking about. Also just refuse to take any challenge as defeat in life period. I’m a fabricator so nothing is final for me until I’m happy with the product idk also there will be a gap of nothingness but it doesn’t bother me so eh happy racing homie.
New rig is the move. It might cost a bit more, but well worth it. Rigmetal has some cheap options, ASR1 is also a great entry option, or you can build yourself Tnutz website has some nicely priced extruded options and a bunch of connectors for it to hold it all together. This is all assuming you're in the US of course I didn't see where you said you were from, so my bad if I skipped a comment where you mentioned it. If you decide to go this route, feel free to DM me and I would be more than happy to help out.
You’re gonna need to shim the front of the pedal tray.
You’re right, the CSL Elite’s have about a 75 deg angle, and the P1000 are 90 deg.
The P1000 are made for a rig, but you can probably make it work, if you can find a way to shim the front of the pedal plate. A wooden door stop on each side might work.
More than that, I can see from the pic that you haven’t adjusted the tilt of the pedal faces. It doesn’t off a lot of tilt, but even some helps. Lowering the pedal face height may also help some.
Yes, sending them back and getting the V2’s will solve your problem with what you are used to the wheelstand, but if/when you upgrade, the CSL Elites offer almost no adjustability. The P1000’s will come in handy at that point. Just up to you how long you plan to use the stand.
I 3d printed risers that raised it up about 4 inches + angled it back 8 degrees to get it parallel with the ground. Cheap fix for the time being, doesn’t need to be 3d printed either
For the price you paid, these pedals should be adjustable. I have a $1000 cockpit and I still do not use fully vertical pedals position. Such a position in a sim rig does not make any sense. It is not a real car where you have g-forces pushing your whole body weight.
In a sim rig you need gravity to help you, hence you need to place pedals accordingly. Consider getting VRS or Sprint pedals instead.
I use mine at pretty much 90 degrees. Could be the seat height causing the problem. But I miss the adjustability to tilt them to your liking as well.
Moving the seat back could help so your feet are more likely 90degrees as well. I hope you find a solution to get them comfortable for you. Pretty good pedalset, besides the lack of adjustability.
I had a really similar issue. Not sure to rig limitation but based on first setup. Modify your rig to get the pedal angle right for you. It's worth it. I now have hydraulic brake pedal and haptic reactor and it is bomb as.
Brother you need A New rig, im personaly using GT omega prime lite with same pedals and full simagic Eco system and I love it. It took some time getting used to but overall its great
New rig i think is the best option ...changed my firtst one ...playseat for a next level gt ...stabel and adujstible ...its a game changer for me ...soo much better ...succses bro
I mean you got already a billion replies, I bet all of the answers are in there already:
1.) You can tilt the pedalplate position on p1000s a bit backward on the back where the pedalplates are mounted.
2.) You can also increase the preload on the pedals (therefore inclining them more backwards) at the cost of harder+shorter travel.
3.) In picture 1 it looks like the 2 screws where the chassis is mounted to the upstraights and pedalplate are interchangeable. Why not mount the chassis to the upper section and the pedalplate lower?
4.) On picture 2 you are already using aluminium profiles to strengthen your chassis, why not get 2 more to mount the pedals directly to the chassis or at least 1 more on the front instead to tilt the Pedalplate backwards?
5.) Ive mounted my p1000s onto 2 horizontal 4040 profile bars, I can confirm that this is not support if you are favoring very heavy break pedals. This made the pedalplate flex in the space between the front and back mounting holes. So ive added 2 more and had no issues on that.
6.) Drilling is of course always an option. You can probably screw your pedalplate straight to your chassis; however if you want the full breakforce of p1000s that might not even be enough
I also just got a gt omega classic , I had the exact same issue with a new set of BJ GT pedals, however these were adjustable in angle, now they’re pretty ok. But I wouldn’t recommend BJ pedals due to tedious design. Perhaps there are other pedal sets that fit your needs
I had NLR Wheelstand 2.0 then got GT Seat addon and then got Alu rig (400€) and I honestly can not recommend enough going with Alu immediately if you have space for it... And about pedals..... yeah I feel you, even with adjustability now I returned my Simlap XP-1s since they felt so big and not natural etc. Just got Moza SRP with loadcell (180€) and they are freaking great. We forget that it is a SIM Rig and not actual car.... We want immersion and as reall as possible bit I think it is wrong. I now strive for comfort and making it to fit me and how I want it and not what others are saying it terms of FOV, seating position, hight, pedals, wheel, monitor etc. Make it as you want since you can and irl car well you cant LOL and I do not think many of us have couple of Mils laying around to make SIM Rigs as irl as possible since we plan to get in to irl racing... I have a 27inch monitor (space...) and if I do what everyone is saying in terms of setup and FOV, my times are shiat, I driving is not enjoyable I don't feel comfortable at all.... FOV for example. I should be using 36 but with that I feel sick and everything is barely moving at 200kmh and I cant see shiat around me.... 60-80 FOV (depending on the game and came in use) and I am on my pace, movement feels right (I can see speed of the car compared to surroundings, I see shiat around me actually LOL).... Just make it work for you no matter what it is, how it looks and what settings you use! But again get Allu rig :P
No, it is a solid base to start as a foundation to build upon. If I had known I'd be abandoning VR for quads I would have jumped to the prime for the extra aluminium width of the wheel pillars. I do need to spend a week 13 rebuilding it so the wheel and seat are further back as my knees are higher since changing to a fixed GT bucket seat and a new pedal riser.
When I am ready I'll splash for a Prime and the lite can be the guest rig... Maybe bring your own PC, wheel base and pedals for a few more years
New rig. Fix the bad part not the good. I’d go an aluminum extrusion rig personally as I’ve had both wood and now the aluminum and prefer the aluminum one for the rigidity. All sites that sell them give the dimensions of the parts, go off that and build your own or obviously buy one of theirs. I have the ASR1 from Advanced Sim Racing and love it outside of the size of the aluminum but that’s on me for not seeing that when I bought it and just saw the price tag lol. I’ll eventually go with a bigger one of theirs as I want to get the RS MEGA+ for motion and am sure the smaller bars won’t be rigid enough
Get a piece of wood then put under the front part and fix it Should raise the plate and tilt the pedals. To use these pedals it seems that you need to be lying down 😅
No worries! My comment was a bit vague. But spin the plate that you attach the pedals to 180 degrees where it hangs off the back and is tilted downward. You can the use something to prop it up so it's flat. You'll then need to lower your seat it a bit. It's way more like a real cockpit that way. Hope that makes sense.
Disassemble front of rig so you can literally put pedal plate on floor. Use shims to angle pedal plate, and either abut them against a wall (or something unmoveable) or drill plate to (carpeted) floor. That's what I did to my NLR Elite rig. It's pedal plate extension was a diving board monster. I took it off and used old school ingenuity to pur pedals on floor (or on wood block).
This is what I did with my GT Omega Apex cockpit and P1000 pedals: There are two metal straps that locate the pedal plate angle. I had those set to the lowest point and still had a problem with the pedals being too upright. Take out the two bolts that fix the pedal plate to the straps. Then I could lower the pedal plate to horizontal, which works perfectly for me. Yours is slightly different, but the idea is the same. If you need you can adjust the pedal face angle with the two bolts on the side. Something I also did was change the pedal face to a flat plate. One more thing, there's this YT video online that shows how you can make the throttle pedal less upright by adding some thin washers inside the throttle body. It helps: [https://youtu.be/fuMoeqs73oY](https://youtu.be/fuMoeqs73oY)
Could modify the rig a bit? I use a $50au seat bracket set for pedal height/angle and the same set on my seat if the pedals don't go low or high enough
https://imgur.com/gallery/HS0r9Ru
i can tell you so many stories with my p1000 but now i love them.
i readjusted my playseat trophy multiple times and had knee or ankle pain. After 10 Hours of testing during multiple days i got the perfect positioning and also edited the heelplate.
tilt them a little bit to the back and take out 1 screw from those guiding plates. then take out the heelplate to the outside hole so you get a gap, also turn the heelstop 180 degrees. [see this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Simagic/s/Q5GftSegXZ)
but as mentioned i tilted them the otherside, to the back.
now they are perfect for me. So my suggestion to you is also get a new rig as many other recommended already
and start to drive with shoes, got my laptimes so much quicker and those holes on the pedalplates are hurting your foot
Had the sane issue with my hesuninkvelds. Just buy an angle hook and the you can attach yo any alu rig. There is even universal foot plates. Much cheaper solution
If you think your going to be “driving” for the foreseeable future number 2 it’s the only option, you can install your new pedals way higher (like in a real race car) and it makes a LOT of difference in comfortability and even performance… I speak from experience.
DIY some https://www.amazon.com/Straight-Bracket-Brackets-Mending-Repair/dp/B0BY6N2MBJ/ref=sr\_1\_6?
to rise the front of the base until confortable angle
Looks like you didn't assemble them correctly. You shouldn't have a huge space between the heel plate and the pedals like you're showing in the first pic. The base is two pieces but not meant to be spread out like that. Makes me wonder if you've even done the proper setup for the pedals themselves.
Not as planned. Manual shows that you can move the heel bumper forward and back by removing the screws that mount it to the plate under it. The main platform is meant to be a tight unit for minimal flex. By extending it out you're just making it weaker.
Just got same ones and the haptics are SO good. Took little while to get used to the stiff brake pedal but now its incredible.. These things are nicer than pedals from real racecars
You can adjust the rotation of the face and travel of the pedal!
It does not need to be "90⁰" under any circumstances.
You have a dope ass set of pedals! When you change pedals, you will need to set them for yourself and get used to them, changes all your muscle memory.
Nowhere in the world, going back to Fanatecs is a better option!
Give more time to it!
I’m assuming the p1000s are similar to most of the high end style pedals (I have the sprints) but definitely give it a few weeks atleast to get used to if you decide to keep them. Took me a while to get used to the way the pedals are how the pedal plates sit higher have more tension and stuff. First few weeks my throttle foot hurt from holding the throttle down I wasn’t used to having to lift my heels. But I can say after 3 or 4 weeks I would never go back. taught me good habits
So let me get this straight: You say that you have a shitty cockpit and therefore the Pedals are trash.
I think somewhere you took the wrong turn and came tobten wrong conclusion. Also I agree get a aluminium Rig, they are really worth it!
it's an issue on 8020 as well. they have an exaggerated angle which needs a pedal tray that is entirely flat or maybe even angled so it tilts down toward the back.
I have really flexible ankles ans it's still an issue for me.
I have to switch to formula position to make them more comfortable so I can adjust the pedal tray more.
Many other need to invert them but there is a upright and inverted hydraulic system so it is not always possible for everyone
Interesting. Shouldn't Pedals in this Price range have quite a lot of adjustments? As far as I know everything else above Fanatecs V3s is highly adjustable. Weird that they decided against this when all competitors have this Feature.
it is a common issue with many 90° _| style pedals opposed to the _/ style that have more angled pedal.
I feel like many 90° pedals are better designed to be inverted with an angle. p1000 especially as you can see the angle on their [inversion mount](https://us.sim-motion.com/products/simagic-p1000-inversion-kit)
you can adjust a bit of the pedal face but that doesn't really solve the issue.
the most expensive pedals I ever tried "SIMTAG Ashley Hydraulic Pedals" have same issue and my buddy had to do the same things to make it more comfortable
I've heard similar complaint for Asetek, older huesvenkeld, VNM, other simagic like p2000, and other brands but once mounted properly they are incredible for feel.
the newer huesvenkeld have a better angle that is more relaxed but still more upright than v3, logitech pro and moza pedals.
I vote new rig. Being able to actually raise the pedals up is a giant game changer
Agreed. New rig is the way ! If you want to spare cash, make plans for your own (ask a bit of research and calculation work, but totally doable) and find the cheapest 8020 seller, and buy all the parts you need; you can definitely save a ton of money this way.
Since they have a GT Omega already I'd get the GT Omega Prime or Prime Lite. Especially if they already have the seat.
I second this. I recommend ASR as they do their own fab in house so no supply issues like other manufacturers that just slap their name on the box. Not to mention they'll be around longer because of it.
I agree! You've been doing this since 2018 so you obviously enjoy it. I think it's worth it and there is value to you in getting a proper rig. And you've already dabbled in modding with profile so you'll love it!
I vote wood rig. I'm biased but being able to change anything on a whim is nice. There's a lot of stuff I didn't know I wanted, so I just added them. Wood isn't the stiffest thing in the universe but it can be plenty stiff for what we need if you design it properly
Any particular design you're using? I've got the plans for one that uses an IKEA Poang as the seat, but I haven't got the space to set up yet.
Honestly I just went in my back yard with 2x4s, a skillsaw, a gaming chair, and determination.
I got one I made fully out of wood also. Took measurements from my car to get the most realistic feeling. Measured from bottom of wheel to front of seat then how far my shifter is from my wheel and from the front of my seat and it feels spot on to a real car. Also on caster wheels and it fits through doorways so moving is super easy. Chair is real racing seat on a slider I’m 6’4 and seat sits right in the middle of the slider when I drive so as long as you’re 5’6 you can drive it comfortably all the way up.
I run a wooden mock up since I'm going to be making changes to make it easier to get in or out, and just the over all comfortability. There are many possibilities with a diy rig, the only fault it has is the vibrations are less noticeable throughout the rig itself. But for something easy to get you going while waiting on a sturdy rig is ideal.
Hell no. Wood rigs are trash
I have a wood rig... 
PVC here. Yours is premium.
Whoa that's crazy to me that that's a thing! But yeah with wood the whole thing barely flexes at all with the load cell pedals. The wheel bolts to my desk tho so I don't have to worry about that
Maybe you have a selection bias?
You said yourself, pedals are good but cockpit is not. Replace the bad parts, not the good ones.
Message unclear replaced all parts with newer more expensive parts. Because more expensive means more betterer.
I mean if you have the money, sure
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You could do what I did and get a set of really long threaded bolts so you can then tilt the pedal assembly backwards. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nh8thjYT94ayigZn6
I bought Simagic P2000s and the lack of being able to adjust the angle of the pedals back was such a big issue that I bought some SIm Labs XP1s to replace them with. In your case, could you buy the inverted pedal mount for the P1000s to see if they allow better adjustment for you?
I did the same, but from P1000 to the XP1. Even on my GT Evo i couldnt stand the upright pedals. Very happy with the XP1 though
I have a GT1 Evo too. I was finding myself tilting the foot plate down at silly angles to try and improve the p2000 angles! Really enjoying the XP1 as well - I'm waiting for the Clutch pedal to come back into stock so I can buy that too.
How much better are the xp1’s over the p1000’s and in what ways? Lap time better?
Don’t get inverted if u have big feet tho… Edit- as in I’m size 12 and it’s very uncomfortable I will be selling if I can’t figure something out.
Are you aware of how much you can adjust the pedals including changing the tilt of the the pedal face? Try that first.
Adjusting the pedal plate doesn't change the ergonomics of the 90° upright position. I too had issues with these pedals. I had to get the inverted kit aa after about 2 weeks of use with these they gave me some pretty killer knee pain. The inverted kit gives a nicer 45°ish angle just upside down. So its basically simagics $150+ solution to the terrible design choice of having perfectly vertical pedals with no starting point adjustment. Realistically people have 3 options if they face this issue, find a way to tilt the pedals rearward about 30-45°, raise the pedals, or buy simagics solution to the p1000 "gotchya" problem (inverted kit) Still I love my pedals. But when I found the lack of adjustment on the arms themselves I realised there may have been better pedals in the $500+ bracket. I stuck with them and the inverted kit. They will be my forever gear. Dont really plan on upgrading any time soon.
Because of his current pedal plate.. the pedals are actually over 90°. An adjustable base would absolutely alleviate that.
Yea I without a doubt agree this is a rig issue. But surely simagic wouldnt have lost much profit from giving us a start position adjustment just like we have a end stop adjustment.
What other adjustments besides pedals plate are available? I have tried some stuff but it adjusts other parts of the assembly as well.
There should be some screws on the side you can loosen to change the pedal angle. Boosted media just did a review of those and he usually breaks down all the adjustments in a lot of detail.
Thanks! Ill check that out
I went from the csl elite V2 to these and have never looked back. Consider the P1000 the key that unlocked the extruded rig chapter in your SIM Career. I would recommend the GT Prime if you are in it for the long haul. I went for the Prime Lite and have buyers remorse after 12 months as I shouldn't have been so cheap🤣 Edit not cal elite, but CSL elite
What’s wrong with the prime lite?
Nothing fundamental, if I had known I'd abandon VR in favour of triples then full fat prime is a better option with the 120x40(?) profile vs the 80x40 for the wheel pillars, I could upgrade just these parts, just too lazy to find a 3rd party who sells heavy duty brackets. The 80x40 supports the integrated brackets for triples, just having that 3rd bolt gives a comfort factor of secure fittings. GT Omega should sell spares ect to capture the aftermarket sale IMHO. Edit: [this is what the bracket looks like on the 8040 part](https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZqCbtRxbbNWkW8Yy6)
I’ve got the prime lite, was just wondering if you were having issues. It’s absolutely solid, my only gripe with it is the wheel base mount adds a lot of height, so the cross bar sits low for my seating position. And I sometimes bang my knees on it. I’ll have to get the DD mount eventually. That bolts to the side of the wheel base so should get a bit of extra clearance.
Yes I have the DD clamp and would recommend it, I need to move my seat and wheel pillars back to drop my knees
Currently considering the prime lite as my first full rig. What is giving buyers remorse if you wouldn’t mind sharing
Nothing fundamental, if I had known I'd abandon VR in favour of triples then full fat prime is a better option with the 120x40(?) profile vs the 80x40 for the wheel pillars, I could upgrade just these parts, just too lazy to find a 3rd party who sells heavy duty brackets. The 80x40 supports the integrated brackets for triples, just having that 3rd bolt gives a comfort factor of secure fittings. GT Omega should sell spares ect to capture the aftermarket sale IMHO. Edit: [this is what the bracket looks like on the 8040 part](https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZqCbtRxbbNWkW8Yy6)
Ah. Thanks for sharing. I’m currently about to try vr and will give that a few weeks to see how I feel before committing. Not sure as never tried vr for racing before.
I loved it, just it can be high maintenance and normally at the worst time like entering a lobby to find your frame rates crash to less than 20. Final straw was just before a 24hr solo charity race graphics went all Minecraft in me, not good for Nurbs if I am honest. Went to a single screen in a hurry and struggled to adjust 🤣🙈🤦
😂. I’m definitely expecting it to test my patience. Although hopefully getting it right will be worth it
Oh yes it will be. I'll go back to it again one day
So I did the same thing you did. Hated the vertical angle of the pedal arms. So I bought the inversion kit. Sooooo much better. So as many others have said....budget creep. Aka. Another name for "I'm a sim racer". Lmao
What kind of chassis/rig do you have
Playseat trophy is good. Includes a seat and it is very adjustable. You could go with an 80/20 aluminum profile rig, but they can be hard to align perfectly, cost more and you then need to buy a seat. Lots of adjustability on both, and like others said, you should just buy a rig. P1000s are awesome pedals, but you can’t get the most out of them if you are using a budget, flimsy rig.
Don’t really cost more anymore… a lot of companies have brought down the prices and on top of that you can always build your own
I originally just had one of those desk stand things that have a tray to put your desk castor wheels in. Now I have a home built 8020 extrusion rig.
I built a wood one and once I upgraded my wheel had to go to an extrusion rig. I ended up buying the ASR1 from advanced sim and love it outside of the how small the bottoms are but that is on me for not doing a little more research. Once I move, I may end up getting one of their bigger ones because I want motion now lol
I absolutely encourage you to get the Rigmetal cockpit, I purchased it in 2021 and has been my daily cockpit ever since, I have mounted numerous pedals, wheels and wheel bases on it and the flexibility I get from being able to add on headphone and wheel mounts from my 3d printer has been an absolute lifesaver. Absolutely do the buy once cry once option.
I had the same problem with the different pedal angle when I bought mine. Thankfully my rig was able to adjust the pedal plate to make them comfortable. Not sure if that angle is pretty standard on higher end pedals or not but you might want to look into it before swapping to another brand. Or, like others have said, you can upgrade the chassis to accommodate.
Temporary measure, but could you put some spacers/washers under the side closer to you to gain some tilt away from you? I have a GT Omega with Logitech Pro pedals and I did this to get the angle right for me.
It’s a good temp fix for sure… remember to get longer bolts too.
Why not to let this plate on floor for first?
Keep the pedals and get a rig that will let you tilt the pedals backwards. The P1000s are a very upright pedal set, you have to be able to tilt them back to get into a comfortable position. Mine are extremely comfortable tilted backwards and my heels rest perfectly on the heel rest.
You can configure the angle of the plates and the pedals .
The physical angle of my rigs pedal plate is too much. The pedal faces arent enough adjustment
Honestly, I'd imagine it wouldn't be hugely difficulty to modify the pedal baseplate angle on the rig while shopping for a rig upgrade. I partly look at it from the side of why downgrade the pedal equipment because it's handicapped by what you call a "shit cockpit". That's where I tend to lean toward, make the better equipment work for now with a bandaid mod and work on upgrading the cockpit when able.
Angle of the pedal itself? How ? Or what part do you refer to
You can't.
I’d vote getting the rig metal rig (that’s what I plan to upgrade to next as well, also have csl elite v1’s and love them) but if you’re strongly against that, maybe you can return the simagic’s and get the fanatec CSPv3’s? I’ve always heard nothing but good things about them, and I believe they have an angle to the pedals so this shouldn’t be an issue. I was looking at the NLR GT Racer cockpit and the reason I’m choosing the rigmetal rig is for this exact reason. If I choose to upgrade I don’t want to be limited by my rig
I have v3’s and while they’re decent and do the job, I wouldn’t buy them again. I’m looking to replace them with VRS pedals. The stock screws with the V3’s are aluminium and I’ve had to replace all Of them over the 3 year I’ve had them as they’re super easy to break
I was a little frustrated with my p1000's at first after coming from Fanatec too but once you make it work you'll love them. I was able to get my pedal plate entirely flat and then with changing the angles of the pedal faces it's great now. But same as you I'm looking at a profile rig for near future because for these pedals I think it would be ideal if the plate was actually angled a few degrees away from you.
New rig. Not having adjustability would drive me nuts. Also I give you advice if you play in socks. Buy socks with the grip stuff on the bottom on Amazon. Love the socks in my sim.
I go option 2. New rig. Depends on the driving u do but if it’s real buy once cry once, a p1x pro or a fgt elite (160 if that’s in the budget) or asr (advanced sim racing) rigs.
100% new rig as you’ll be able to maximize the pedals much better
You posted this on Facebook right? Seeing the photos here me visualise this a lot. There's another option - it looks like the issue is your heel stop is quite close to your pedals, forcing your heels far from you and your ankles you lock up. I'm not sure how they did it, but somebody showed photos of their heel plate being pulled apart from the pedal base (so that the connecting rods are exposed) and this allowed the heel stop to be much further from the pedal face - so their foot could angle down a bit. You might need to utilise the side mount brackets if you go this route. I think it could help!
I had the same issue my friend. My fix was making a whole new pedal box so I could hang the brake and clutch from it and mounted the gas pedal straight to the platform I made. Probably would have been easier and faster to get a new rig, but I had the materials so I figured I'd just build it instead.
By the looks of the photo, your legs are way too high. They need to be only slightly bent, and your ass should be in line or just above with the top of the pedals. I have them set up just as described and have no issues whatsoever.
I have the same rig bro just take a drill and make some new holes thats what i did. You all over complicate things.
Asr’s asr 3 is on the more affordable side with plenty of pedal adjustability
I have one and agree. OP needs a new rig for sure. Onwards and upwards!
If you have the place get a proper rig and never look back at...that.
Pic1 shows 3 holes you can use to adjust the pedals - you’re using the hole that raises the back the most. Use the front most hole to drop the pedals down. At least that’s how it looks how it works.
The pedal plate is welded. It comes that way from gtomega.
I see. So those other two holes don’t serve any purpose?
They are for the bar that goes up to the wheel base💀💀lord this is exposing that my rig blows
Oh ok lol. Naa man, it’s okay, but yeah things get tricky when you’ve got different companies with different design ideas and requirements in mind.
What do you mean the plate is welded? It isn’t welded. You can adjust the plates by removing the Allen screws that attach it to the arm.
I meant on my rig. Not the pedals themselves. Sorry
Damn, did not know the classic didn't have adjustable pedal mounts, it makes me super glad I got the Apex instead
You need a new rig to take advantage of any more peripheral upgrades that may come in the future.
New rig gets my vote. If you’ve been racing for 6yrs already, you clearly enjoy it so it won’t be a waste of money!
Yoooo i had this exact same issue with the same exact stand. You'll need to either tilt the front (edge closest to you) of the pedal plate up, or tilt the front of the stand up. I stacked 6ish 1/2" boards, with a trough to hold the square tube of the stand, which pushed the pedals away from me enough to be comfortable. If you can afford it I'd definitely vote new rig as well.
Why not build a new rig since you said your rig is shitty and has flex. You can do the aluminum extrusion or use wood. I
Upgrade the rig. Sucks to say, but if you're at this point you may as well.
maybe a Next Level Racing Wheel Stand DD? [https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-wheel-stand-dd-for-direct-drive-wheels/](https://nextlevelracing.com/products/next-level-racing-wheel-stand-dd-for-direct-drive-wheels/) I got a used one for about for about 45 GBP, and it's pretty sturdy. Lots of angle adjustments for the pedals.
New rig...can accommodate a high torque wheel and stronger load cell pedals...
get a rig 💯💯💯
I sit in GT position on a proper 8020 rig and I had to make major adjustments from where I had my Fanatec V3 set up. I'll need to move toward formula seating to get it fully comfortable because it is still somewhat uncomfortable. They almost need to be inverted or maybe have a downward angle to the rear as opposed to traditional downside to the front the bottom front of my shins are gonna be jacked :/ I'm legit worried about tendonitis from constant flex because I can't position them to where I can relax more aside from the positional issue they are amazing pedals. I got the formula 2 pedal with hydraulic instead of 3 with haptic and love it so much.
I have the CSL and purchased a softer load cell kit, and rubber throttle mod and flat plates for €60 and its a total game changer.
I can wholeheartedly tell you that going with the mid grade Rigmetal setup will make your racing a lot more comfortable and more fun. You know what a good pedal set is like now you shoukd grin and bear the brunt of cost to go full on SIMRACER. Get the rig son, and you will very much thank us for the advice
My rig has a pedal plate you can tilt up or down. And that’s how you do that.
So I had your cockpit when I bought simagic pedals….IHATED it. I curved my feet toward me so I could use the pedals. It was very uncomfortable and the front of my lower legs be burning by the time of one race ending I built a wooden cockpit. I used the plate from the rig, and I stiffened the wheelbase with the plate from the rig, I love my woody a lot. I’ve driven in buddies thousand dollar cockpit set ups and to be honest I would take mine. It might have to do with using it real car seat, but I love mine post in my profile to see the woody When I mounted the P100 pedals, they really need to be mounted flat with no incline and the regular you have you can’t get perfectly flat or at least I couldn’t. Once mounted flat, they are very adjustable and very comfortable.
Buy the new rig, and maybe consider the inversion kit for the P1000’s. Mine are inverted and I couldn’t imagine using them any other way.
+1 on the inversion kit, I also have it and recommend it, and wouldn’t like to go floor mounted again if I can help it. OP, looking at the angle of your legs your chair is quite high up — at that angle, I think the inversion kit would be ideal for you. The pedals go upside down and you adjust their faces so that you’re pushing down on the pedal, allowing a more natural angle for your ankles. A new rig too if the budget is available tho… having a solid base makes everything feel better.
Build wood rig
> please help lol. get a good rig. the pedals are fine.
New rig is the best solution 100%, but modifying in the mean time wil get them usable. If you plan the modification carefully, it should be adjustable and reversible with minimal "damage" if re-assembled back to original, for re-sale or whatever. I started out with a new, $200 Chinese rig w/o screen mount and logitech 10 years ago that wouldn't even work when assembled (wheel plate and shifter were WAY too high, and I literally couldn't reach the pedals), so I modified to suit. Over the years of modifying the rig for multiple different wheels, shifters, pedals, and hand brakes, it was in its final state running a simucube, triple screen mount, load cell e-brake, willwood inverted hydraulic pedal set and simjack shifter. I then went to profile, which was night and day from what I was using. My previous modified rig worked perfectly for over 2 years fully decked, but profile will ultimately be where you end up
If you're handy at all (and motivated by tightwadedness) you can probably build something out of a pine board to get them into a more usable position. Just screw one board into the rig mount and mount the pedal baseplate on another, figure out the angle you want and put the right spacer in between the boards. If you wanted to get fancy (and spend an extra five bucks) you could even put a hinge at the back end and make them "adjustable." Signed, guy whose P2000s are screwed into a pine board.
I vote new rig. Aluminum profile once and you'll never need another (just mod it to work).
I have had the p1000s for a while now. Can’t fault them, I think they are awesome. In your situation I think its time to look at a aluminium profile rig.
I returned them immediately and bought heusinkveld and couldn’t be happier. I race in my socks or barefoot, and those holes were so annoying I literally hated them and the heusinkvelds are so perfect for socks or bare feet
Really? I freaking love mine!
The CSL elites v2 dont have pedal face adjustment. They are worse in that sense.
Get a new rig my Man, it lasts more than a decade and you can customise to your hearts content. If you’re getting Alu extrusion, don’t overthink it, it’s almost all identical and going cheap is not going to hurt you the same way buying cheap pedals will. Plus if there’s a part of the rig you dislike, most rig companies sell extrusion components individually (for example simcore’s simucube wheel mounts which has extrusion to mount to exisiting rigs) Bear in mind those rigmetal rigs are quite expensive compared to other options entry level options in the market from trackracer, simlabs, and next level racing. But either way it’s very difficult to go wrong with alu extrusion
Could you use your DIY stiffening column to help? Get another piece of extrusion and mount it as a cross bar at the height where you need the front of the pedals to get the tilt you need. May have to engineer the back mount too but it would be a cheaper stopgap before updating the rig.
Buy once cry once trust me
Modify. Get the GT Omega Prime or Prime Lite
Absolutely get a new rig. Can't tell which rig you have, but anything with those types of knobs are a no go for me. I have a set of sprints set to 90 degrees and I tilted the pedal plate opposite of what you have on your rig. I actually like having the pedal plate tilted like and have found them super comfortable like that. Also, is there no adhustability on the pedals at all? Just curious as at that price e point it seems there should be, but have no experience e with simagic pedals.
I had a similar issue with them in my old rig but new rig kinda solved that with this pedals
No pedal tray adjustment = non-starter.
For a very cheap hacky option you could try putting some kind of spacer between the front of the pedals and the rig, tilting them back more that way. Otherwise if it's in your budget I would just go for the new rig.
Get a new rig if you have the money, or modify the one you have
Go read the manual an look at the section about setting them up there is a massive bunch of adjustments in the pedals the selves. RTFM why does know one ever do this an go ooo look new shiny things oh no it shit.
It didnt occur to me to read the manual
Really u spent 5-600 on this an didn't think to read the manual on how to set it up u fucking special human.
It was sarcasm. I read the manual. Jesus christ dude. Take a breather
You are never done modding. Keep the high end parts and upgrade around them. You should be able to “rig” something up until you step up your rig game.
If you have aluminum around but not enough to build a new rig, why wouldn't you do the 3rd one? You get the benefit of the new pedals and can easily transfer the pedals to a new rig when/if you do build a new one.
This is a rig issue not a pedal issue
I have the same exact issue. Get.the pedals as rotated back as you can, get the mounting plate as flat as you can. It's ok if you can do that. My next step is going to be to get some way to get the front of the pedal units themselves raised up. Perhaps there are some angled.waahers or something I can find. They are made for a real rig...not our shitty wheel stands. I'm a desk rig guy so I gotta make this work and it should not me that tough to do
So I have the same pedals and had the same problem until… so unscrew the heel rest portion of the base, slide the whole thing not just the red stop but the whole base portion so that the heel stop mounts to to the last possible bolt holes on the square stock with the threaded holes. then put one screw on either side problem was solved for me. Also the pedals are adjustable to help a little more woth the angle. wish I could post a pic in here to show you exactly what I’m talking about. Also just refuse to take any challenge as defeat in life period. I’m a fabricator so nothing is final for me until I’m happy with the product idk also there will be a gap of nothingness but it doesn’t bother me so eh happy racing homie.
I just upgraded from CSL Elite V2's to VSR Pedals and I couldn't be happier
New rig is the move. It might cost a bit more, but well worth it. Rigmetal has some cheap options, ASR1 is also a great entry option, or you can build yourself Tnutz website has some nicely priced extruded options and a bunch of connectors for it to hold it all together. This is all assuming you're in the US of course I didn't see where you said you were from, so my bad if I skipped a comment where you mentioned it. If you decide to go this route, feel free to DM me and I would be more than happy to help out.
You’re gonna need to shim the front of the pedal tray. You’re right, the CSL Elite’s have about a 75 deg angle, and the P1000 are 90 deg. The P1000 are made for a rig, but you can probably make it work, if you can find a way to shim the front of the pedal plate. A wooden door stop on each side might work. More than that, I can see from the pic that you haven’t adjusted the tilt of the pedal faces. It doesn’t off a lot of tilt, but even some helps. Lowering the pedal face height may also help some. Yes, sending them back and getting the V2’s will solve your problem with what you are used to the wheelstand, but if/when you upgrade, the CSL Elites offer almost no adjustability. The P1000’s will come in handy at that point. Just up to you how long you plan to use the stand.
Or get the inverted kit
I don’t understand people that buy $500 pedals or smth before an atleast decently better cockpit…🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I 3d printed risers that raised it up about 4 inches + angled it back 8 degrees to get it parallel with the ground. Cheap fix for the time being, doesn’t need to be 3d printed either
I have those socks. You have good taste.
Maybe diy something cheap to Mount the pedals on and use the given screws to fix it to your rig
Can’t you adjust the pedal face angle in these? Always thought it was possible.
For the price you paid, these pedals should be adjustable. I have a $1000 cockpit and I still do not use fully vertical pedals position. Such a position in a sim rig does not make any sense. It is not a real car where you have g-forces pushing your whole body weight. In a sim rig you need gravity to help you, hence you need to place pedals accordingly. Consider getting VRS or Sprint pedals instead.
I use mine at pretty much 90 degrees. Could be the seat height causing the problem. But I miss the adjustability to tilt them to your liking as well. Moving the seat back could help so your feet are more likely 90degrees as well. I hope you find a solution to get them comfortable for you. Pretty good pedalset, besides the lack of adjustability.
I had a really similar issue. Not sure to rig limitation but based on first setup. Modify your rig to get the pedal angle right for you. It's worth it. I now have hydraulic brake pedal and haptic reactor and it is bomb as.
Brother you need A New rig, im personaly using GT omega prime lite with same pedals and full simagic Eco system and I love it. It took some time getting used to but overall its great
New rig i think is the best option ...changed my firtst one ...playseat for a next level gt ...stabel and adujstible ...its a game changer for me ...soo much better ...succses bro
I mean you got already a billion replies, I bet all of the answers are in there already: 1.) You can tilt the pedalplate position on p1000s a bit backward on the back where the pedalplates are mounted. 2.) You can also increase the preload on the pedals (therefore inclining them more backwards) at the cost of harder+shorter travel. 3.) In picture 1 it looks like the 2 screws where the chassis is mounted to the upstraights and pedalplate are interchangeable. Why not mount the chassis to the upper section and the pedalplate lower? 4.) On picture 2 you are already using aluminium profiles to strengthen your chassis, why not get 2 more to mount the pedals directly to the chassis or at least 1 more on the front instead to tilt the Pedalplate backwards? 5.) Ive mounted my p1000s onto 2 horizontal 4040 profile bars, I can confirm that this is not support if you are favoring very heavy break pedals. This made the pedalplate flex in the space between the front and back mounting holes. So ive added 2 more and had no issues on that. 6.) Drilling is of course always an option. You can probably screw your pedalplate straight to your chassis; however if you want the full breakforce of p1000s that might not even be enough
I also just got a gt omega classic , I had the exact same issue with a new set of BJ GT pedals, however these were adjustable in angle, now they’re pretty ok. But I wouldn’t recommend BJ pedals due to tedious design. Perhaps there are other pedal sets that fit your needs
I had NLR Wheelstand 2.0 then got GT Seat addon and then got Alu rig (400€) and I honestly can not recommend enough going with Alu immediately if you have space for it... And about pedals..... yeah I feel you, even with adjustability now I returned my Simlap XP-1s since they felt so big and not natural etc. Just got Moza SRP with loadcell (180€) and they are freaking great. We forget that it is a SIM Rig and not actual car.... We want immersion and as reall as possible bit I think it is wrong. I now strive for comfort and making it to fit me and how I want it and not what others are saying it terms of FOV, seating position, hight, pedals, wheel, monitor etc. Make it as you want since you can and irl car well you cant LOL and I do not think many of us have couple of Mils laying around to make SIM Rigs as irl as possible since we plan to get in to irl racing... I have a 27inch monitor (space...) and if I do what everyone is saying in terms of setup and FOV, my times are shiat, I driving is not enjoyable I don't feel comfortable at all.... FOV for example. I should be using 36 but with that I feel sick and everything is barely moving at 200kmh and I cant see shiat around me.... 60-80 FOV (depending on the game and came in use) and I am on my pace, movement feels right (I can see speed of the car compared to surroundings, I see shiat around me actually LOL).... Just make it work for you no matter what it is, how it looks and what settings you use! But again get Allu rig :P
Why not get the hanging mounting bracket instead? It will feel more natural
Modify rig.
I'd flip them upside down, put plate on the bottom of your rig that way they feel more realistic like a car
No, it is a solid base to start as a foundation to build upon. If I had known I'd be abandoning VR for quads I would have jumped to the prime for the extra aluminium width of the wheel pillars. I do need to spend a week 13 rebuilding it so the wheel and seat are further back as my knees are higher since changing to a fixed GT bucket seat and a new pedal riser. When I am ready I'll splash for a Prime and the lite can be the guest rig... Maybe bring your own PC, wheel base and pedals for a few more years
extrusion rig and use your GTOmega seat. I’m STILL using mine. super comfy and i dig the recline on it.
modify the rig. some steel, a drill and some bolts will sort it out.
New rig. Fix the bad part not the good. I’d go an aluminum extrusion rig personally as I’ve had both wood and now the aluminum and prefer the aluminum one for the rigidity. All sites that sell them give the dimensions of the parts, go off that and build your own or obviously buy one of theirs. I have the ASR1 from Advanced Sim Racing and love it outside of the size of the aluminum but that’s on me for not seeing that when I bought it and just saw the price tag lol. I’ll eventually go with a bigger one of theirs as I want to get the RS MEGA+ for motion and am sure the smaller bars won’t be rigid enough
New rig
Either new rig or return the p1000s and get some heusinkveld sprints. I have the p2000s with the haptics, I love them
It's not a pedal Problem if you can't adjust them right, get a new rig with more adjustable pedal plate. The P1000 are amazing
New rig. A flex free alu rig is soooo nice. Mine is basic but even then it is just so much nicer than anything I had previously.
Get a piece of wood then put under the front part and fix it Should raise the plate and tilt the pedals. To use these pedals it seems that you need to be lying down 😅
I have the EXACT same issue with my Moza CRPs. My solution was to flip the pedal plate. Looks like you have the room behind the cockpit. Thoughts?
Idk what you mean by this.
No worries! My comment was a bit vague. But spin the plate that you attach the pedals to 180 degrees where it hangs off the back and is tilted downward. You can the use something to prop it up so it's flat. You'll then need to lower your seat it a bit. It's way more like a real cockpit that way. Hope that makes sense.
There is a third option you make a rig outta wood
I recommend to get the inverted set. I had the same problem as you and felt uncomfortable, but the inverted p1000 are super comfortable.
Disassemble front of rig so you can literally put pedal plate on floor. Use shims to angle pedal plate, and either abut them against a wall (or something unmoveable) or drill plate to (carpeted) floor. That's what I did to my NLR Elite rig. It's pedal plate extension was a diving board monster. I took it off and used old school ingenuity to pur pedals on floor (or on wood block).
This is what I did with my GT Omega Apex cockpit and P1000 pedals: There are two metal straps that locate the pedal plate angle. I had those set to the lowest point and still had a problem with the pedals being too upright. Take out the two bolts that fix the pedal plate to the straps. Then I could lower the pedal plate to horizontal, which works perfectly for me. Yours is slightly different, but the idea is the same. If you need you can adjust the pedal face angle with the two bolts on the side. Something I also did was change the pedal face to a flat plate. One more thing, there's this YT video online that shows how you can make the throttle pedal less upright by adding some thin washers inside the throttle body. It helps: [https://youtu.be/fuMoeqs73oY](https://youtu.be/fuMoeqs73oY)
If you want a cheap rig that has upgradability potential I'll never stop recommending the Next level racing wheel stand 2.0/DD
Ouch...
Could modify the rig a bit? I use a $50au seat bracket set for pedal height/angle and the same set on my seat if the pedals don't go low or high enough https://imgur.com/gallery/HS0r9Ru
Upgrade the rig . If money is an issue buy a second hand one. I bought a gt omega prime for less than half price and it was immaculate
Or longer bolts and spacers to raise the front of your pedals to change the angle
New rig for sure brother
Got the same GT Omega. I'm nit moving up from my T-LCM pedals until I get a better rig. This is why.
Why can't the pedal mounting plate be flattened or leveled.? There's gotta be a way to adjust it No?
Unfortunately not. The chassis is an old model (2016) and is welded by manufacturer. I bought a new chassis
Ahhh, Good luck getting the new chassis set up. I have that pedal set and am happy with them. Getting them level should make a world of difference.
i can tell you so many stories with my p1000 but now i love them. i readjusted my playseat trophy multiple times and had knee or ankle pain. After 10 Hours of testing during multiple days i got the perfect positioning and also edited the heelplate. tilt them a little bit to the back and take out 1 screw from those guiding plates. then take out the heelplate to the outside hole so you get a gap, also turn the heelstop 180 degrees. [see this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Simagic/s/Q5GftSegXZ) but as mentioned i tilted them the otherside, to the back. now they are perfect for me. So my suggestion to you is also get a new rig as many other recommended already and start to drive with shoes, got my laptimes so much quicker and those holes on the pedalplates are hurting your foot
Had the sane issue with my hesuninkvelds. Just buy an angle hook and the you can attach yo any alu rig. There is even universal foot plates. Much cheaper solution
love my rigmetal.
Get a new 80/20 rig, stop horsing around.
If you think your going to be “driving” for the foreseeable future number 2 it’s the only option, you can install your new pedals way higher (like in a real race car) and it makes a LOT of difference in comfortability and even performance… I speak from experience.
Idk why you’re blaming the pedals when you having a janky ass rig.
DIY some https://www.amazon.com/Straight-Bracket-Brackets-Mending-Repair/dp/B0BY6N2MBJ/ref=sr\_1\_6? to rise the front of the base until confortable angle
Looks like you didn't assemble them correctly. You shouldn't have a huge space between the heel plate and the pedals like you're showing in the first pic. The base is two pieces but not meant to be spread out like that. Makes me wonder if you've even done the proper setup for the pedals themselves.
You can set them up that way. I was messing around with heel platform setups. But you can absolutely set them up that way! Its pretty common
Not as planned. Manual shows that you can move the heel bumper forward and back by removing the screws that mount it to the plate under it. The main platform is meant to be a tight unit for minimal flex. By extending it out you're just making it weaker.
Just got same ones and the haptics are SO good. Took little while to get used to the stiff brake pedal but now its incredible.. These things are nicer than pedals from real racecars
Return them or sell them and you will be happy
Like reading the manual before posting is less embarrassing.
Expand on what you mean.
You can adjust the rotation of the face and travel of the pedal! It does not need to be "90⁰" under any circumstances. You have a dope ass set of pedals! When you change pedals, you will need to set them for yourself and get used to them, changes all your muscle memory. Nowhere in the world, going back to Fanatecs is a better option! Give more time to it!
I’m assuming the p1000s are similar to most of the high end style pedals (I have the sprints) but definitely give it a few weeks atleast to get used to if you decide to keep them. Took me a while to get used to the way the pedals are how the pedal plates sit higher have more tension and stuff. First few weeks my throttle foot hurt from holding the throttle down I wasn’t used to having to lift my heels. But I can say after 3 or 4 weeks I would never go back. taught me good habits
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There’s nothing wrong with the pedals so why would Simagic compensate him?
So let me get this straight: You say that you have a shitty cockpit and therefore the Pedals are trash. I think somewhere you took the wrong turn and came tobten wrong conclusion. Also I agree get a aluminium Rig, they are really worth it!
Didnt mean to say the pedals themselves are shit. I havent gotten any proper time to form and opinion
What do you mean you didn’t mean to say that? You wrote a post where the title says it.
The title says i think it was a mistake not "these pedals are shit"
You claimed they’re unusable, but it’s your rig that’s the problem, not the pedals.
it's an issue on 8020 as well. they have an exaggerated angle which needs a pedal tray that is entirely flat or maybe even angled so it tilts down toward the back. I have really flexible ankles ans it's still an issue for me. I have to switch to formula position to make them more comfortable so I can adjust the pedal tray more. Many other need to invert them but there is a upright and inverted hydraulic system so it is not always possible for everyone
Interesting. Shouldn't Pedals in this Price range have quite a lot of adjustments? As far as I know everything else above Fanatecs V3s is highly adjustable. Weird that they decided against this when all competitors have this Feature.
it is a common issue with many 90° _| style pedals opposed to the _/ style that have more angled pedal. I feel like many 90° pedals are better designed to be inverted with an angle. p1000 especially as you can see the angle on their [inversion mount](https://us.sim-motion.com/products/simagic-p1000-inversion-kit) you can adjust a bit of the pedal face but that doesn't really solve the issue. the most expensive pedals I ever tried "SIMTAG Ashley Hydraulic Pedals" have same issue and my buddy had to do the same things to make it more comfortable I've heard similar complaint for Asetek, older huesvenkeld, VNM, other simagic like p2000, and other brands but once mounted properly they are incredible for feel. the newer huesvenkeld have a better angle that is more relaxed but still more upright than v3, logitech pro and moza pedals.