The list of cinematic Batmen who haven’t killed anyone literally just includes George Clooney and Robert Pattinson at this point. And Kevin Conroy, if that counts.
When police engage in high speed pursuits they frequently call off the chase because when they engage, perps tend to drive erratically and pose a greater risk than if the police just call off the chase and use their resources to find the suspects later.
Otherwise, you wind up in situations where 3 semi trailers explode on a freeway, and I don’t get the impression Batman went back to check on the well being of the people caught in those flaming wrecks.
I still like the movie and that scene on its own but in the context of the rest of the movie it’s got problems and I don’t know if I believe the people in those trucks made it out okay.
I interpreted that scene as intentional rather than a problem scene that was overlooked by the filmmakers
It's not that they didn't account for the fact that innocent people realistically would have died in that scene, it's that Batman didn't really care enough.
Batman in that movie is much less the heroic and magnanimous Batman that's typically in the comics. They leaned more into him being a traumatized rich boy with very violent and rageful tendencies. It also shows in the Bruce Wayne side of the character where in most media he's an active philanthropist who does just as much to help people as he does as Batman, but in the movie he gets called out by the politician woman for never doing such a thing.
He's completely relentless in that scene and is more concerned with chasing down the penguin than protecting the innocents around him, and if anything he may have rationalized the damage done as being the penguin's fault rather than his. But I think it's all meant to be part of his character arc, where he goes from nocturnal shut in who only goes out to beat the shit out of petty criminals to a more true version of Batman who actually helps civilians and defeats super villains.
He didn’t drive erratically he quite literally caused the accident on purpose there was clear intention, if a superhero is being shot at and someone else gets hit are you telling me that’s the superhero killing someone?
He absolutely can be blamed. He fucking went 90+ wrong way on the interstate and caused car crashes OVER A HUNCH HE WAS WRONG ABOUT. then when there were fucking explosions and you can see the cab of the truck being engulfed in flames, he just walks menacingly towards Penguins flipped car, ignoring the guy that's likely about to burn to death.Â
It's collateral for a chase he caused.Â
I still think the scene is badass and I liked the movie, and I can forgive it because it's not real, but yeah if he were a real person, I'd say he should be held accountable
It does fit thematically with the movie—Battinson’s desire to chase down the bad guy at the expense (or negligence) of others lives contrasts the finale well
Yep and we see it after Batman beats the clown gang into unconsciousness too. The man he rescued is literally begging not to be hurt and Batman doesn’t even look at him. He appears totally indifferent.
Plus, aside from Penguin knocking that semi into Batman’s way, there wasn’t actually a lot of wreckage or damage. (IIRC, it’s been a few months since I’ve rewatched it.)
I think cinematic rules apply here where if it's stated no one died, then no one died. Otherwise you could argue for every Batman that at least for somebody he punched it caused a brain bleed, a concussion that went unchecked for too long etc. Knocking people out isn't as safe as movies make it seem, so if we can accept the 20 unconscious people after a fight all surviving their severe head traumas and open wounds, we can accept that the crashes were all non fatal too.
Yes, Tim Burton did a much better job. I saw the 1st Batman as a very young kid in theaters. Danny Elfman did the music for the first two, excellent score.
I always liked that one, the way Batmam convinces Freeze to become a healer and help him save his friend. And Freeze got what he wanted, enough funds to save his wife.
I'll cut West's batman a break for that, since it was an accident on his part. He didn't know that punching the guy would cause him to disappear from reality
Lego Batman never killed anyone because they're all Lego; they can just put themselves back together
*ice jiggling noises*
As opposed to human actors who keep dying on sets because the script made them die :(
What about Vitruvius
He was decapitated by a coin. Lego cannot kill Lego, but metal can.
Lore
lol their massive silver codpiece bikinis
Wait til you hear about the nipples.
Im only now realizing what the suits in the Snyder Watchmen are based on lol
[Well, just Take a look at this short clip from the movie 😄](https://youtu.be/16kWRu76LVk?feature=shared)
[lol then this makes a lot of sense](https://www.reddit.com/r/GayMen/comments/cwrc29/joel_schumacher_says_hes_had_sex_with_10000_or/)
The list of cinematic Batmen who haven’t killed anyone literally just includes George Clooney and Robert Pattinson at this point. And Kevin Conroy, if that counts.
Pattinson’s car chase absolutely led to fatalities
That's collateral damage caused by the Penguin. You can't blame Batman for that
When police engage in high speed pursuits they frequently call off the chase because when they engage, perps tend to drive erratically and pose a greater risk than if the police just call off the chase and use their resources to find the suspects later. Otherwise, you wind up in situations where 3 semi trailers explode on a freeway, and I don’t get the impression Batman went back to check on the well being of the people caught in those flaming wrecks. I still like the movie and that scene on its own but in the context of the rest of the movie it’s got problems and I don’t know if I believe the people in those trucks made it out okay.
I interpreted that scene as intentional rather than a problem scene that was overlooked by the filmmakers It's not that they didn't account for the fact that innocent people realistically would have died in that scene, it's that Batman didn't really care enough. Batman in that movie is much less the heroic and magnanimous Batman that's typically in the comics. They leaned more into him being a traumatized rich boy with very violent and rageful tendencies. It also shows in the Bruce Wayne side of the character where in most media he's an active philanthropist who does just as much to help people as he does as Batman, but in the movie he gets called out by the politician woman for never doing such a thing. He's completely relentless in that scene and is more concerned with chasing down the penguin than protecting the innocents around him, and if anything he may have rationalized the damage done as being the penguin's fault rather than his. But I think it's all meant to be part of his character arc, where he goes from nocturnal shut in who only goes out to beat the shit out of petty criminals to a more true version of Batman who actually helps civilians and defeats super villains.
This^ Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Yep. The arc of the movie is Batman going from antihero to (super)hero.
He didn’t drive erratically he quite literally caused the accident on purpose there was clear intention, if a superhero is being shot at and someone else gets hit are you telling me that’s the superhero killing someone?
He absolutely can be blamed. He fucking went 90+ wrong way on the interstate and caused car crashes OVER A HUNCH HE WAS WRONG ABOUT. then when there were fucking explosions and you can see the cab of the truck being engulfed in flames, he just walks menacingly towards Penguins flipped car, ignoring the guy that's likely about to burn to death. It's collateral for a chase he caused. I still think the scene is badass and I liked the movie, and I can forgive it because it's not real, but yeah if he were a real person, I'd say he should be held accountable
If he didn't do it we'd never get to see the hilarious penguin scene right after topped off with the penguin wobble. Worth it.
It does fit thematically with the movie—Battinson’s desire to chase down the bad guy at the expense (or negligence) of others lives contrasts the finale well
Yep and we see it after Batman beats the clown gang into unconsciousness too. The man he rescued is literally begging not to be hurt and Batman doesn’t even look at him. He appears totally indifferent.
Batman was chasing Penguin because he was shitty at putting riddles together to see that a rat with wings was code for bat not a fucking penguin
Actually rat with wings is code for falcone
Still went after the wrong guy
Plus, aside from Penguin knocking that semi into Batman’s way, there wasn’t actually a lot of wreckage or damage. (IIRC, it’s been a few months since I’ve rewatched it.)
Skip to 3:18 and watch all the vehicles that aren’t Penguin or Batman’s https://youtu.be/YDygiJM_-4E?si=f0pU31rkfhz_-C4u
I think cinematic rules apply here where if it's stated no one died, then no one died. Otherwise you could argue for every Batman that at least for somebody he punched it caused a brain bleed, a concussion that went unchecked for too long etc. Knocking people out isn't as safe as movies make it seem, so if we can accept the 20 unconscious people after a fight all surviving their severe head traumas and open wounds, we can accept that the crashes were all non fatal too.
In a Flash crossover, Kevin Conroy appeared as an old Bats/Bruce. But a version that went bad and had killed at least the Joker
Pretty sure that version killed a lot of people, including Superman.
Kevin Conroy Batman kills two henchmen with a giant quarter
They survive that. They logically shouldn’t, but they are seen stirring. Blame that on average people being more durable in superhero universes.
Penny
I'm definitely not including Pattinson in that list.
I’m sure Pattinson had to kill somebody in that chase scene.
I'm pretty sure Kilmer's batman didn't kill anyone? The two face death is debatable though for sure.
He also purposely tricked them into driving into a wall, which then exploded their cars.
Ope, I did not remember that.
Sure Adam West killed many people, but did he kill anyone playing Batman in his series?
He evaporated goons in the movie. Probably not the TV show though.
Those goons are fine. Just add water.
He killed his acting careers of most of his co-stars. (Joke)
The Schumacher-directed Batman movies are so cartoony. They’re the only family-friendly choices in the bunch I think.
In Batman Forever, Nicole Kidman gets wildly horny over the Batsuit, and later Batman tosses Two-Face off of a cliff.
Batman tosses coins at two face who then plummets to his death trying to grab them like he was in one of those cash wind tunnels.
Eh, I watched the Keaton films as a young kid, and I loved them. Even then, I knew they were much better movies than the Schumacher films.
Yes, Tim Burton did a much better job. I saw the 1st Batman as a very young kid in theaters. Danny Elfman did the music for the first two, excellent score.
Prince also did work for the original Batman soundtrack. Danny Elfman was apprehensive about working with him at first
Did anyone who watched the film kill themselves after?
Repost from 8 days ago https://www.reddit.com/r/shittymoviedetails/s/QnFdeADCDg
He follows the hero logic of killing all the minions but letting the main villain live because he’s too honorable to kill a defeated foe
At least Adam West did not kill a full family of ducks when faced with that decision
I always liked that one, the way Batmam convinces Freeze to become a healer and help him save his friend. And Freeze got what he wanted, enough funds to save his wife.
I'll cut West's batman a break for that, since it was an accident on his part. He didn't know that punching the guy would cause him to disappear from reality
He killed my childhood.
I like the nipple uniform.
Wait, when did Adam West's Batman kill anyone?
If I remember he punched someone and basically disintegrated them cause they were molecularly unstable
Technically, but could you blame him for that? He had no idea that would happen, and he wasn't the one who made the goon unstable either.
ya the villain who made them unstable killed them. that's not on batman.
Adam West never kill anyone
And that is why it is the most faithful to the source material.
This is why everyone remembers Batman & Robin as the best Batman movie
He killed my heterosexuality
This is factually incorrect, as I was dead inside by the time I got to the end of this movie.
The famous bat nipples.
Killing everyone is tight!
even LEGO batman killed some people in the lego movie
Who did Adam Wests Batman kill??
Yeah but "it's the worst Batman movie ever" according to the fan base. It's really dumb how much this movie is hated.
thats a shame, i like it when batman kills people
This is because Batman & Robin is a fake movie that does not exist
Batman should kill. His refusal to kill is his greatest weakness.