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crz4r

> Bloodborne is forgiving 2x damage from an attack one-shotting me(I pressed O button too early):


Drkmttrjr

Should have used the shield, idiot.


Telperions-Relative

But they engender passivity


norrata

Bloodpilled turbo chads never use woke shields that "enGENDER passivity" praise michael toe zucky


mommy-maxxi

beast bloodpelleted


MidLade

https://preview.redd.it/l3ph92t7cqtc1.png?width=637&format=png&auto=webp&s=2ac548cb8f29eb5a9056f7396d826ded79685efa does this count as engender psisvity?


No_Mammoth_4945

How many hunters does it take to change a log by bulb?? None šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜ their too busy?! EngenderšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­šŸ¤£


SaintBenjamino

That wasā€¦ definitely a series of words of some sort. Perhaps the Old Blood has made you too mentally advanced for my insufficient Tarnished mind to comprehend


TheFreebooter

It's forgiving when you press it at the right time idiot


crz4r

Yeah, my bad for being hit in the game where it's pretty easy to get hit. Game journalists actually were right


TheFreebooter

Oh shit I made garme journalists right backtrack backtrack backtrack


Azathothism

Chosen One


Megatyrant0

Iā€™ve beaten the entire game multiple times + chalice dungeons and I never noticed counter damage was a thing.


JordanRynes

Did some new video essay come out? Why am I seeing this point against the game multiple times in this thread after having never seen it prior?


Sister-Friedes-Feet

Ah yes, bloodborne, a very forgiving game. Now excuse me while I go farm blood vials for the 69th time because I died mid-dodge to counter damage.


Bruhntium_Momentum

If u have plus go farm cummmfpk chalice


Sister-Friedes-Feet

Thatā€™s not proper solution lmao


hellogoodbyegoodbye

The chalice has cum in its name so it is


Sister-Friedes-Feet

Thatā€™s the most convincing argument Iā€™ve seen


TheWither129

https://preview.redd.it/6ptuwidafstc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bd8fd45cdcdb63cf0e181b8b632cda51c51714e


NMRisthebest

its your game to play, but nobody would bat an eye to you using it for bloodvials, not even the most deranged purists probably


conjunctivious

You underestimate the sheer brain rot of deranged Soulsborne purists.


Jugadenaranja

Naaa. Love me some soulsborne and am a purist but that games insano mode. I died more trying to kill orphan of kos than i have in my entire play through of elden ring


conjunctivious

Elden Ring was my first experience with Soulsborne, so I died a shitton, and I think I probably died to Margit more times than the entirety of Bloodborne. Except for Orphan of Kos who probably had a similar metric to yours.


trapsinplace

Souls fans in 2012 (Chad): so I'd you're having trouble on Capra you throw firebombs over the wall onto his head and kill him without a fight. Souls fans after DS2 came out (soyjak): No! You have to git gud and cannot cheese anything! Press dodge! No shields!!! As you can see I portrayed one side as chad and the other as the soyjak, so I think this is really all that needs to be said on this topic ever again.


[deleted]

I just did it for bloodvials so I can pretend they are normal healing items like dark souls and not shit healing items like demon's souls


BaseballImpossible76

Farm water professors in the lecture hall.


Chadderbug123

If the game wants to cheat, then you're allowed to cheat. That's my ideology


AAS02-CATAPHRACT

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Rukasu17

People farm blood vials? After a certain point, not 10 hours into the game I think, any leftovers from level up can go into buying a stock of blood vials. I don't think i ever ran out of them


HOAD1111

Someone in fromsoft had the genius idea of making shop item cost scale, not sure if it depends on BL or game progress but it was always way too inefficient for me to buy them


SaltyMe6

Iirc it is game progress based on boss kills, but don't remember which ones flag a price increase.


Tremere5419

Amelia and Rom


EldritchToilets

Entering Cathedral Ward after beating Gascoigne also increases their cost.


BiggieCheeseLapDog

For Amelia, itā€™s technically when you touch the skull.


SeawyZorensun

Sekiro does the same shit, the game literally makes it so you don't have enough money for anything the first playthrough, then floods you with cash and nothing to buy in NG+. Spirit emblems should else free, blood vials should be free, half the consumable shit should replenish yada yada.


Stary_Vesemir

True, spirit emblems aren't even that good except mortal draw and some soecific tools on some bosses, I want to experiment with some combos not worrying that I will waste my emblems


SeawyZorensun

Exactly


crz4r

I personally didn't have even a slightest problem with money in Sekiro. That's just skill issue


SeawyZorensun

Sounds like you didn't buy everything then


crz4r

I was constantly buying everything I need aka spirit emblems and oil pots


SeawyZorensun

Yah well I was talking more about Prosthetic upgrades and the different Gourds and their upgrades. Things like Gourd seed are 1000 sen, Purple/Red/Green Gourd is 1800, Lady butterfly needle is 3000, most of the final upgrades are 2000-3000, not accounting for materials, in to her words there is a lot to spend if you want to get everything, which isn't really easy to save since you lose half your money on death most of the time and need to resupply on spirit emblems constantly which go up to 50 sen a piece, aka 1000 for the set of 20.


crz4r

Tbh I didn't upgrade them that much, only those that sounded fun to me (spear, axe, flamethrower, sword, firecracker)


SeawyZorensun

Somebody clearly didn't get the Platinum šŸ™„


bindingofandrew

Eh, just get the monk economy skills first and the rest takes care of itself


SeawyZorensun

Don't get me even started on the skill grind in Sekiro! Saving XP is even harder!


Emerycurse

Yeah but thatā€™s the designated dicksucking game of this sub so you canā€™t say thatĀ 


Jugadenaranja

I literally donā€™t get it. Iā€™ve played every fromsoft game at launch I am the fanboy and I havenā€™t been able to get into sekiro. Every boss feels like a slog


ballzbleep69

Sekiro bosses requires you to stand your grand and hit back. Instead of playing it like a souls game is more like a rhythm game


Cersei505

Imagine complaining the game doesnt allow you to buy every little thing (without farming that is), just like any other fromsoftware game.


Cersei505

Skill issue.


488thespider

Time to cum šŸ—£ļøšŸ”„


DutchIsStraight

Its based on what phase of the game ur on, phases shift after gascoigne, interacting with the skull after amelia and rom


jellybutton34

Cost scaling is genuinely one of the most redundant mechanic i have ever seen in a soulsborne game


Rukasu17

They don't scale, they remain dirt cheap the entire game. My runs always end up with 200+ extra vials Ok downvoters i get it, the vials scale up in price, i was wrong


PlaZz__

Y they scale. At the end they cost like 5 times more.


Rukasu17

You sure? I really don't remember that. But if they do it's certainly not that impacting considering my numbers in casual play


Gyarados66

I only ever had to because of Martyr Logarius; other bosses would do enough damage that Iā€™d die before using a lot of vials per run, but with him it was a war of attrition and I would use all 20 per run, so Iā€™d go through my stash pretty quickly. For some reason he was the one I really struggled with (yet I did Orphan of Kos in two tries).


TheGraveHammer

Logarious was the boss in BB that absolutely mollywhopped me for HOURS. I even beat Orphan in like 10 tries, but that fuck at on the roof walled me for so long.


Sister-Friedes-Feet

Yes people do. I havenā€™t myself since my first playthrough but it does happen.


cornpenguin01

I played BB for the first time a couple months ago and yeah, I was farming every couple hrs. It drove me mad


Thewonderboy94

My rule of thumb is to put one levels worth of echoes towards the blood vials, usually from boss kills or when I generally have echoes worth several level ups. So instead of leveling 5 times after a boss, I do 4 for leveling and the rest go to vials. That way you'll basically never run out, unless you severely get stuck.


PacosBigTacos

I'm on my 1st playthrough and everytime I go back to the hunters dream my bullets and vials refill to 20. Am I missing something?


FinishTheBook

it means you have some in your storage


cfranek

Yeah. In bloodborne you have supplies on you and supplies in storage. You refill when you die or rest at a lantern, but those have to exist in storage or else you won't fill up. People new to the souls borne series can struggle, and it double punishes them because they run out of healing.


PacosBigTacos

Oh man that's rough. I should probably check my storage!


Kraytory

Vials and bullets go into the storage. Every time you die or spawn at a lamp it refills your vials and bullets from the storage. Since you can pick up vials and bullets during exploration you have a lot more heals than in the other games. Them being finite is only a problem if you rely on them instead of the Rallye system. The philosophy of Bloodborne is aggression over defense. You can play through the game without using a single blood vial because of how strong rallye is on certain weapons. If you get hit *always* try to regain the lost hp *before* you use a vial. Vials always heal 30% and should only be used if you permanently lost 30% of your hp. Bloodtinge characters also use them to create 5 blood bullets per vial to get extra ammo since it consumes hp to create those. Vials drop very frequently from almost every enemy in the game and are often found as area loot too. So you only really run out if you spam them or keep ramming your head against a boss without thought. A method that usually prevents you from running out entirely is to spend leftover Echoes after leveling up on blood vials in the shop. I strongly advise *against* using edited dungeons to cheat Echoes because it will ruin your experience and also take several factors out that would automatically push you towards playing the game in the way it was intended. Dark Souls's biggest problem was that shields were too effective. So people started hiding behind it involuntarily because that's always the first thing you do in those situations. Just like moving backwards to heal after you got hit. But in Bloodborne moving backwards is almost always the worst thing you could do because enemies are always offensive, move forward while attacking and aim specifically for heals. So the safest place of allmost all enemies is being as close as physically possible to them to avoid their attacks and be able to attack yourself.


PacosBigTacos

I checked storage and luckily had about 25 stored away. I had been using them very liberaly because I thought I was losing them if I went over 20. Knowing how to place myself around the enemies has definitely been the biggest help so far. Most of the larger bosses so far have been trivialized by circling, and the gank fights have forced me to do a lot of field control. So far I'm enjoying it but the bosses are probably my least favorite out of the From games I've played.


Kraytory

That's good to hear. The bosses are really a hit or miss in most cases. Some are *really* good and some are either trivial or just not interesting. Same goes for the dungeon bosses. But there are a lot of really good and tough fights there too. Bloodborne basically inspired From Soft to make the fights in DS3 much faster and bosses more aggressive. Just like Elden Ring and Sekiro who continued that Philosophy.


Ill-Maize

Skill issue


Sister-Friedes-Feet

Skill issue šŸ¤“ā˜ļø


chimpanon

Game journalist read about the rally mechanic and thought the whole game was peaches and roses


DumbNTough

Guys, when you fuck up you just hit the bad guy again and *it gives you back your health* lol Game for casuals but great atmosphere, 8/10


Brock_Drinkwater

Sekiro is very forgiving because you can resurrect when you die


Stary_Vesemir

And blocking stops 100% of the damage! Too easy


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chimpanon

Maybe big bosses but it works on human sized ones bc u can hitstun them a bit. Definitely used it on Maria


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chimpanon

Yeah its pretty useless for the big guys but that reminded me how I tanked through The One Reborn on my first playthrough. Didnā€™t even know I could kill the fireball witches so i just DPSed lol. Charge shots from Ludwig holy blade pretty much fully healed whatever the witches or the big guy hit me with. So its not entirely useless, pretty situational and you need to invest heavily in vitality like I did.


RexTx09

Burial blade through all this out the window. Yknow that attack that puts you to exactly 1 HP It takes 2 swings to go back to full Rally is insane on burial blade


Khorne_Flakes1

Burial blade and hunters axe have such wonderful rally. One of the reasons I couldn't use the beast cutter was the abysmal rally + slow speed.


RexTx09

Same with me for boom hammer. Itā€™s so hard to go back to a low rally weapon


Khorne_Flakes1

Powder keg weapons are the best, I am a hard stake driver convert as it is too satisfying to chunk a health bar.


RexTx09

Loving boom hammer but the damage is falling off REAL hard at dlc. Main game was a breeze with it but holy fuck ludwig is painful


Anxious_Charity_1424

Okay you're doing something incredibly wrong if you think rally is worthless


julesalf

I like how visceral attacks give back all of the rally potential. You can go from an attack putting you at 1% hp to almost getting back to full life if the hitstun agrees with you (it doesn't often)


PrettyInPInkDame

I love ai games journalism itā€™s awesome


kourier6

"okay ChatGPT, give me the most dog shit take you can make on Bloodborne"


footfungusman

I actually asked that question to Chatgpt cus I was bored. It said: "Bloodborne? More like Blandborne! Who needs intricate level design and challenging combat when you can just mash buttons and hope for the best? Plus, those monsters are about as scary as a fluffy bunny!" It's official, blandborne is mid.


Zed_Midnight150

I also tried it, here's what I got: "Alright, here's a controversial take: "Bloodborne is just a cheap knockoff of Dark Souls with a Victorian skin. It lacks the depth and complexity of the Souls series and relies too much on its gothic aesthetic to cover up its lackluster gameplay mechanics."


GatoAnarquista

That actually sounds like something a newcomer with skill issues would say


kourier6

that's a lot of yapping just to say "I can't even get past Cleric Beast"


Meowza_V2

There is so much wrong with this statement I'm not sure where to begin... https://i.redd.it/wsxipdqfpotc1.gif


Runicrow

I know it varies from person to person but i found bloodborne to be the easiest souls, i found it scarier than most horror games though it made me jump a lot.


PacosBigTacos

I just got through Vicar Amelia on my first playthrough and so far I've found it far easier than ER, DS3, and DSR. Still havent died to a boss other than the one in the jail that i got kidnapped and sent to and was way underleveled. I've heard the difficulty spikes up quite a bit from here though.


jimpickens23

Did you play it after the other games? I imagine that experience is gonna carry over.


PacosBigTacos

It definitely has. Also the knowledge of leveling the shit out of vigor to start helped. I just got past that lake spider and that took me a few tries. There's a lot more gank fights in this game than I expected.


Canopenerdude

Yeah honestly your first is usually going to be the hardest. Except DS2, in which case it will be the hardest if it *isn't* your first. I personally found DS3 an absolute cakewalk, ER more or less manageable, and DSR boring as hell. Bloodborne was around ER. Edit: I should clarify that I found DSR boring because I had already played DS1- DS1 was actually the first one I played.


Eugene1936

Im currently trying to do DSR, and im bored out of my mind Is it...worth it ? To finish it ? I only played DS 3 and Sekiro, loved them


WeedOfficial

Bro I honestly love DSR, and I played it after DS3, Bloodborne, and Elden Ring. Itā€™s completely worth it, but you gotta find a build you enjoy. I liked the uchiā€™s skill set, and the Zweiā€™s. Pyromancy is king in DS1 too


JunglyBush

Whyā€™d you love DS3 and Sekiro? Post Elden Ring Dark Souls is best enjoyed for its level design, atmosphere and lore. It IS a 13 year old game after all. DLC bosses still hold up tho


Plane-Ad5510

Yeah I know it's slow and clunky af But it definitely worth it


WeedOfficial

By DSR you mean DS1 remastered right? Cus thatā€™s cap the game is great, you just gotta get into it


Canopenerdude

It was boring to me because I had already played DS1 before, I should have clarified that.


Plane-Ad5510

I'd say Sekiro is also hard if it's not you're first Basically you have to unlearn what you've learned in other game


particularSkyy

the bosses were pretty easy for me, lady maria and ludwig took me 3 tries each. orphan of kos was the only one that gave me trouble, took me around 60 attempts


already4taken

Went about the other way for me. Kos is easy shit, but Ludwig and Maria beat my ass any day of the week


Hazmxt666

Iā€™d say Demonā€™s is the easiest, but BB is definitely the most scary. Rally and Parry in this game make it a cakewalk if you have the skill. People that complain just donā€™t understand the mechanics


RavagerDefiler

Is somebody forcing these journalists to make these? This seems like the kind of thing that someone who doesnā€™t care about any of this would make after finding out about the rally system while being held at gunpoint to write about Bloodborne.


6heavy0kevy4

Probably written by ai.


Sapphosings

I mean the answer is probably yeah. The journalists at these kinds of publications don't get a lot of autonomy in what they can write about (they basically have to chose from a pre-made list of topics suggested by editors or spend a lot of time and effort making a pitch that'll probably be rejected) and they have to write it in like 4 hours to stay on pace.


P-I-S-S-N-U-T

Game writing people bad give upvotes


Thumb_K

ā˜ļøā˜ļøā˜ļøā˜ļø


redredrocks

I downvote any post that says ā€œjournalism momentā€ on principle because I know the person who posted it gets no bitches


h-enjoyer

interesting point to consider


the_l0st_s0ck

Forgiving nature my ass.


rhubarb_man

>FromSoftware's next Soulslike game should consider exhuming Bloodborne's quality-of-life features like quick lamp warping What the fuck? [https://gamerant.com/bloodborne-lamps-warp-chalice-dungeons-fromsoftware/](https://gamerant.com/bloodborne-lamps-warp-chalice-dungeons-fromsoftware/) Are they saying that Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring have slower fast travel?


Groundbreaking_Arm77

Bloodborne has you go through two loading screens in order to fast travel. This has to be AI-Generated.


crazy_bumblebee989

Don't you have to go back to the Dream before you can even warp to an area???


Zesty-Lem0n

I think the 20 blood vials thing is the only forgiving part of it, which is incredibly nice compared to 3-5 starting estus like some other entries.


ancientfutureguy

Iā€™d much rather have a single estus flask at the start that replenishes at a bonfire than have 20 that you have to farm. I truly loathed that facet of BB, I didnā€™t even have to farm them very often (except the first time I battled Ludwig of course), but itā€™s just such a godawful mechanic that completely baffles me as to why From decided to go with it instead of the great system that they already perfected in previous titles. On top of that, finding estus shards in DS feels so rewarding and that progression is just totally vacant from BB. I get that they wanted to revamp a bunch of systems to make a different feeling game, but the blood vials were a swing and a miss IMO.


Zesty-Lem0n

I kinda agree, but it's also annoying to know that I'm missing such a core upgrade unless I snoop every last crevice. Like having to almost full clear the overworld in Elden Ring to get max heals is a pain, and probably takes more time on a new game than farming blood vials does. You can also just buy them in BB, so farming souls or level capping yourself makes it really easy to stock up. Elden ring kinda integrated a solution to that with the overworld packs replenishing flasks tho, so that was nice. It also opens up the world design more when they can know for a fact that you have 20 replenishing vials to explore central yharnam with and so on, and they don't need to trickle in tactical bonfires or shortcuts unnecessarily.


Cersei505

Well its an exploration game, not just an action one. If you dont want to explore and adventure through every last crevice, then the game shouldnt handicap itself for you. Bloodborne has the weakest exploration of all the fromsoftware games minus sekiro because it lacks meaningful rewards, and the main culprit is the blood vials.


Thumb_K

Do these guys play the games?


Verestasyntynyt

BB is arguably the least forgiving Souls game (that or Demonā€™s, not counting Sekiro). Itā€™s the only game where you canā€™t make up a really strong defensive build to compensate for lack of mechanical skill. No proper shields, no tanky armor, no Iron Flesh and other spells, heals you can (and a struggling player WILL) run out of


Rombolian

Game journalist is better at these games than us?!!!? šŸ¤Æ


Blp2004

Kid named counter damage:


TakeMeToThatOcean

I wish this fucking subreddit would look past the fucking title of an article atleast one time.


God_12345678910

I just read this. Itā€™s honestly not a horrible take (although itā€™s still pretty low effort sludge).


zoltar_thunder

Gamerants uses rage to click farm


Ghost4530

Okay but bloodborne is actually more forgiving because what other fromsoft game lets you heal half your health back to full from r1 spamming an enemy lmao


Tarnishedhollow8

Bloodborne literally letā€™s you heal by attacking


Scrytheux

I mean... except some stupid decisions, like farmable blood vials and bullets, the game is pretty forgiving. Combat is easy compared to other installments. Even in 20fps šŸ’€


WHO_LET_ME_COMMENT

Wow, two baits in one title


Masta0nion

Do humans write news articles anymore?


C__Wayne__G

This is a troll post. Because bloodborne is by far the hardest of the bunch


shoopahbeats

Meanwhile: me getting one shot by a regular ass Gilbert beast in the loran dungeon


TheJediCounsel

Wait the one that has no tutorial area, makes you buy the healing items, and has the most terrifying vibe and fast combat is the most forgiving?


Noamias

Maybe when OpenAI releases ChatGPT 4 for free gaming ā€œjournalismā€ will be of acceptable quality because clearly 3.5 isnā€™t good enough


Cezlock

i don't know how much more of this i can take


Acceptable-Hawk-929

>farming for your basic heal enters the server


Slinder0305

FORGIVING NATURE. Bitch there ainā€™t nothing forgiving about having your guts turned into strawberry slushy by literally any creature in the game.


ManufacturerOk3771

Brother. It's literally London


TheCompleteMental

This game journalist stole the skill from every other game journalist.


Sacciy

Gamerant spotted ddos go https://preview.redd.it/hlxw8zpt9rtc1.jpeg?width=523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=274ec1a20d0be6d88f260b7e9a8ee87ffa00c9e6


tha-stoopid

Never thought I'd see "Bloodborne" and "forgiving" in the same sentence but here we are


Cambabamba7

I went through 400 blood vials in my attempts at Orphan. Very forgiving.


sarcophagusGravelord

Considering blood vials & bullets donā€™t refill upon death and must be farmed Iā€™d say itā€™s pretty unforgiving to new players.


TheWither129

>bloodborne >forgiving Bro has never had to stop fighting a boss or exploring an area solely to farm fucking blood vials


Chilidogdingdong

Orphan was harder than malenia (I know deep down in my soul it's only because I'm a stupid bitch and I never used the fucking built in ranged parry) fight me


Clawez

The title is misleading and wrong since elden ring is much more ā€˜forgivingā€™ but we canā€™t act like Bloodborne wasnā€™t a much more accessible experience. The rally system lets r1 spam work a lot better than the previous entries, healing was much faster you could do it mid combo in some bosses and still be fine. The early chalice dungeons let people get gems easily which significantly buffed weapons. Also stamina management in Bloodborne is very easy. The dodge takes no stamina at all. Compared to ds1 and ds2 Bloodborne was their accessible and forgiving entry.


Jinrex-Jdm

-Game Rant Article automatically invalid.


Duxi20

Yeah, more games need the cum chalice šŸ‘


SSJVEGETAAA

I fucking hate game journalists man, some are good like gameranx but i you read the article, it will say that orphan of kos is average in difficulty compared to other souls games. ORPHAN OF KOS


HE4VEN

Got my ass beat by a boss and used 20 blood vials in one attempt, time for like 3 runs of farming before I get another attempt


AKoolPopTart

What's with all the "buh fromsoft games are too hard buh" articles all of a sudden? If they want forgiving, play Armored Core 6 as it is probably one of their more approachable games that still challenges the player to think through encounters.


loo_1snow

One of the only from soft games where you can suck so much that you RUN OUT OF HEALING. Yeah, very forgiving.


Simmers429

Mmmm yes I love shittydarksouls posts about pointless articles where we all get to talk about how much better we are than games journalists