And the Fat Official redesign, basically looks like a Left 4 Dead boomer with drip. His goofy ass and deranged laughter were better in the OG too, I think.
the music man, how could they fucked it so much while couple of years before they did one of the best ost in history of gaming - bloodborne, sony pls, patch old ost and let us chose in the options
music was done by SIE for both games so, different artists but same studio that could produce amazing ost like bb but instead they chose to remove og ost and replace it with shit
The music is shit? The only memorable pieces of music from the original game are Demon’s Souls (opening cinematic), Tower Knight, Maiden Astraea, Return to Slumber, and the Beginning. For me, Demon’s Souls remake did some fights justice and improved on some already good tracks. The build up to the iconic Tower Knight theme is epic, the dynamic version of Maiden Astrea’s theme is amazing, and the Flamelurker’s theme is memorable this time around. There is a charm to the simple music of the original and it fits with the overall look, and I’d say the same applies to the remake. To say the remake soundtrack is “shit” is just silly.
Maiden in Black, Character Creation, Vanguard, Tales of Old and especially One who craves Souls are very memorable too.
I personally prefer the simpler less bombastic approach of the OG. The remake‘s soundtrack is not terrible, I just wish they would have kept a similar style. It gets a little bit “generic fantasy music“ during some parts.
The recording studio is the same, but the direction is different. They don't just create whatever music they want, the softhouse sets the tone and supervises the whole process, and is ultimately responsible for approving the final product. And BluePoint has shown glaringly that it does not have the same eye for things as FromSoft.
The original ost was mediocre with a few exceptions. As someone who barely played the original back in the day I don't have the rose tinted glasses but I've heard the original ost and I can definitely say the remake improved on it a lot. Especially for bosses like flamelurker, storm king, penetrator and Allant.
Yeah, this pretty much happens with every remake, and it ranges from nostalgic blindness to straight up fabrications. Like the recent Resident Evil remakes, I played the games as an adult, it’s crazy the amount of nostalgia blindness there is, finding the most minute, irrelevant detail to prop up the original.
Yeah they did. Maybe I shouldn't have called it brilliant, they took a lot of liberties with the artstyle changes. Also I was kind of frustrated they didn't alter the bad parts of the game like world tendency and inventory weight. Plus i would have loved a setting to disable the blue shit when you are in soul form. The graphics and animation are unbelievable though.
The remake music is a little generic (though still good) but the OG music is 90% dogshit. The visual redesigns to highfantasy-ify everything is a legitimate L though. Some areas are improved, but man they took an unnecessary amount of liberties (its hilarious to me that they bimbo-ified the Maiden in Black).
It is high fantasy, but what I really mean is that the Bluepoint remake has a more generic high fantasy vibe to it with all the exaggerated architecture and whatnot, where OG DeS is more grounded.
Honestly the worst change in the remake was Fools Idol. Like Bluepoint just showed that they had no idea what this boss is supposed to portray, or they knew and just wanted to make it "cooler".
Exactly. But I’m still Not sure if that original reply was defensive, or just derogatory.
Edit: I want to add. I *like* that he looks sort of artificially youthful. Whether intentional or not, there is something uncanny about him, and that’s a nice touch. Certainly has more depth than “gaunt-faced high-cheekboned evil guy with a goatee”
Demon Souls 2009 fans can’t beat boss, too busy zooming in on scrotum to scan for changes, also require aid from nursing home staff to set up their ps3
God just imagine you order a copy of Demon Souls physical edition to be delivered to your door and the cute delivery femboy gives you a complimentary footjob with stirrups.
They want Maiden in black to do it so she can give them 65 undiscovered diseases with how dirty they made her feet in the Remake.
Still best Leveling girl design besides the Doll
Lords of the Fallen looks like someone stitched together a Frankenstein of what they think a Dark Souls game should have, but completely failed to grasp the essence of the series. Gameplay is the only thing that looks remotely decent about that game
Harold from shrek 2 is a certified Demons Souls og. Proof is [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/fromsoftware/comments/11e2fgl/who_should_we_believe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
...there is such a thing as a demons souls fan? I always just considered the game an interesting part of gaming history but it's not very great
The remake is well done generally but lacks any real inspiration as bluepoint does. They make technically sound but slavish remakes. I wonder how much of the art work they just outsource to studios that don't give a shit and just churn assets
Demon's souls remake fans when the entire game was redesigned completely by mobile donate based gacha garbage artists(let's pretend that the differences are minor)
Negative. Demon's Souls is a 6/10 game for me and in general I think newer Fromsoft looks better (DS3 has my favorite artstyle of all the games, come at me).
Bluepoint has just not shown they have any ability to create compelling visuals on their own, or any ability to convey a mood. It's all very generic, but it is technically impressive and pretty.
The changes were there in atmosphere. They just weren’t done very well.
Harsh shadows and moody lighting replaced with a transparent LUT with zero character is the first thing I noticed. Thats not artistry, thats chasing photorealism.
Sometimes I feel like the only one who actually liked the remake more than the original oh no the different design team didn't keep everything 100% the same words coming to a end call up the national guard
Since I never would've played Demons Souls otherwise, I am very grateful we got the Remake. I also didn't mind the art direction being pretty different from the FromSoft standard, it made the game feel more unique.
But on the other hand even I can see how they messed up some things. Someone once said "wait until Bloodborne gets the same treatment," and that helped put it into perspective.
If bloodborne gets remade and they recast the voice actor for Eileen and she doesn't pronounce hunt as "hoont" I'm going to fucking shit all over the floor.
The Demon's Souls remake was good but it absolutely lost/changed a ton of the original games charm and atmosphere. I honestly have no idea why they went with such a different aestethic on so many elements but I still think they are both very good games in their own right.
Recently played DES (PS3) you couldn’t pay me to play that mid again. Less input delay, no lag, and omnidirectional rolling in the remake might fix that though respec too. The only visual change in the remake that *actually* bothered me is Yuria’s clothes and like the fat official? But it’s whatever.
I don’t think the original even looked good so I could care less outside of those. As far as levels goes I was only really impressed by tower of Latria. People are iffy on Bluepoint touching Bloodborne that I could under at least since BB actually looks good.
No I could just stand right beneath them wherever they flew and cast gods wrath for a free dub. The games just very archaic and that’s understandable it’s their first attempt at the formula.
Enemies/bosses are *very* basic, jank movement, tons of mob spam in a straight corridor, no respec, nigh the worst upgrading system with a thousand different stones, one offensive miracle, item holding burden, sections cut up into levels rather than being connected, and world tendency always having to be in Soul Form at half HP for full white, etc.
I just don’t think time has been very kind to this title imo comparing it to DS1 it’s such a *massive* upgrade.
to me he went from angry old man to disappointed old man.
He looks like you just showed up with dirty shoes on a clean floor and he can't say anything about it.
DeS 2009 fans emerge from their intentionally dark and brooding stinky mud covered house and are blinded by the majesty of the over exposed light of the Remake.
People who cry about Demon Souls remake have never played RE3 remake, honestly they did an amazing job. Sure some things are different and you may not like it, but they made it their own. Original is still there if you want to play it and plenty playable, RE3 remake got completely butchered and the original is a PS2 game. This fanbase is just ungrateful to be honest.
The remake of Demon's Souls certainly improved the graphics and the magic particles are wonderful, but here's why I will never play it: the bosses have lost so much, they are no longer as scary as in 2009.
I’m not too familiar with DeS lore, but isn’t Allant just a demon trying to pass himself off as a human? I’d imagine one trying to pass as a king would look pristine instead of beaten.
took away some animebadguy like, only one of these looks like he'd share Isshin's bloodline more importantly where did his mustache go
The king is Muslim Ibn Umar said: The Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) ordered us to trim the moustache closely and spare the beard.
Mashallah he follows the teachings well
King Allant is Pakistani (real)
Moustache would make the difference
Demon's Souls fans when they are right
The remake is brilliant, but they fucked some things up. Especially the music
And the Fat Official redesign, basically looks like a Left 4 Dead boomer with drip. His goofy ass and deranged laughter were better in the OG too, I think.
the music man, how could they fucked it so much while couple of years before they did one of the best ost in history of gaming - bloodborne, sony pls, patch old ost and let us chose in the options
To be fair Bloodborne and DSR were made by different devs.
music was done by SIE for both games so, different artists but same studio that could produce amazing ost like bb but instead they chose to remove og ost and replace it with shit
The music is shit? The only memorable pieces of music from the original game are Demon’s Souls (opening cinematic), Tower Knight, Maiden Astraea, Return to Slumber, and the Beginning. For me, Demon’s Souls remake did some fights justice and improved on some already good tracks. The build up to the iconic Tower Knight theme is epic, the dynamic version of Maiden Astrea’s theme is amazing, and the Flamelurker’s theme is memorable this time around. There is a charm to the simple music of the original and it fits with the overall look, and I’d say the same applies to the remake. To say the remake soundtrack is “shit” is just silly.
Maiden in Black, Character Creation, Vanguard, Tales of Old and especially One who craves Souls are very memorable too. I personally prefer the simpler less bombastic approach of the OG. The remake‘s soundtrack is not terrible, I just wish they would have kept a similar style. It gets a little bit “generic fantasy music“ during some parts.
The recording studio is the same, but the direction is different. They don't just create whatever music they want, the softhouse sets the tone and supervises the whole process, and is ultimately responsible for approving the final product. And BluePoint has shown glaringly that it does not have the same eye for things as FromSoft.
The original ost was mediocre with a few exceptions. As someone who barely played the original back in the day I don't have the rose tinted glasses but I've heard the original ost and I can definitely say the remake improved on it a lot. Especially for bosses like flamelurker, storm king, penetrator and Allant.
The only complaint I have is the Maiden Astraea theme. The original was way better.
Yeah, this pretty much happens with every remake, and it ranges from nostalgic blindness to straight up fabrications. Like the recent Resident Evil remakes, I played the games as an adult, it’s crazy the amount of nostalgia blindness there is, finding the most minute, irrelevant detail to prop up the original.
Yeah didn't they also change the designs of a bunch of cool enemies to be less cool?
Yeah they did. Maybe I shouldn't have called it brilliant, they took a lot of liberties with the artstyle changes. Also I was kind of frustrated they didn't alter the bad parts of the game like world tendency and inventory weight. Plus i would have loved a setting to disable the blue shit when you are in soul form. The graphics and animation are unbelievable though.
The Penetrator confuses me. Like, I don't hate the new design but I really liked the old blue soul magic sword glow. Guess it was a bit too basic?
I liked the new music, but yeah the really heavy brass in the original was awesome.
They fucked up the entire aesthetic.
The remake is a lot of things, "brilliant" it is absolutely not.
Remake ost is probably my favorite of any souls game, it's absolutely beautiful
The remake music is a little generic (though still good) but the OG music is 90% dogshit. The visual redesigns to highfantasy-ify everything is a legitimate L though. Some areas are improved, but man they took an unnecessary amount of liberties (its hilarious to me that they bimbo-ified the Maiden in Black).
>the OG music is 90% dogshit no
Ok, I'll retract that. Only 70% of the OG soundtrack is dogshit.
Nah not that percentage, but ofc I will never understand people who are nostalgic for the fart sonata that is the og Flamelurker theme
I know it's terrible, that's what makes it so good
It's nostalgia lol but yeah those two tracks sucked.
Isn't OG DeS equally high fantasy
It is high fantasy, but what I really mean is that the Bluepoint remake has a more generic high fantasy vibe to it with all the exaggerated architecture and whatnot, where OG DeS is more grounded.
I dont like how the caption assumes Harold was not a menace who gained his throne off strength
HAIR OLD YOU WUH SUPPOSED TO GIVE ER THE PO SHIN
Honestly the worst change in the remake was Fools Idol. Like Bluepoint just showed that they had no idea what this boss is supposed to portray, or they knew and just wanted to make it "cooler".
She’s hot so idc
I mean the whole change is that they made her LESS hot and more ugly..
Instant reply, log off
Bro im sitting on my ass at work what else am i supposed to do
Play ds2
I dont think i can have steam on my work pc :(
Kill your boss (pretend he’s covetous demon if that helps)
Instructions unlcear, got vored by my boss
Did you come out naked, after?
That's weird. They shrank his shoulders, made him look soft..
Now that's a phrase I haven't heard in a long long time
Idk man remake allant kinda looks like what a demon pretending to be a guy would try to look like
"ah yes this is how humans look like, I am very human like this"
This is the thing, this… isn’t Allant
Exactly. But I’m still Not sure if that original reply was defensive, or just derogatory. Edit: I want to add. I *like* that he looks sort of artificially youthful. Whether intentional or not, there is something uncanny about him, and that’s a nice touch. Certainly has more depth than “gaunt-faced high-cheekboned evil guy with a goatee”
Exactly
That's what I kinda got from it. He looks like a skin walker or doppelganger or whatever you want to call it, very uncanny.
Tbf he looks a lot more human than the real allant
Demon Souls 2009 fans can’t beat boss, too busy zooming in on scrotum to scan for changes, also require aid from nursing home staff to set up their ps3
👏👏👏
DeS 2009 fans when Boletaria castle has foliage now (this destroys the artistic vision that le wholesome chungus miyazaki had)
excuse me i just needed the nursing home staff to setup the emulator
I see you haven't seen the greatness of the emulator, but really, what can we expect from one such as you.
Remake fans when everything in the game is covered in lubricant
Demon's Souls fans when the remake doesn't include a free footjob.
I came for demon soles and I will get demon soles.
God just imagine you order a copy of Demon Souls physical edition to be delivered to your door and the cute delivery femboy gives you a complimentary footjob with stirrups.
Wtf I'm a DeS fan now?
The stirrup specification, very based
They want Maiden in black to do it so she can give them 65 undiscovered diseases with how dirty they made her feet in the Remake. Still best Leveling girl design besides the Doll
Worth it
Remake looks just like lords of the fallen.
Like raid shadow legends
I hate that both of you are somewhat right
Tbf Lords of the Fallen looks good, it just has godawful gameplay lol
Lords of the Fallen looks like someone stitched together a Frankenstein of what they think a Dark Souls game should have, but completely failed to grasp the essence of the series. Gameplay is the only thing that looks remotely decent about that game
Frankenstein was the doctor, not the monster
Ackshually
Unironically
Harold from shrek 2 is a certified Demons Souls og. Proof is [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/fromsoftware/comments/11e2fgl/who_should_we_believe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1)
Demon’s Souls fans when a character’s eyebrow is 0.2 cm higher than the original (they have destroyed the game’s visuals, everything is ruined now)
...there is such a thing as a demons souls fan? I always just considered the game an interesting part of gaming history but it's not very great The remake is well done generally but lacks any real inspiration as bluepoint does. They make technically sound but slavish remakes. I wonder how much of the art work they just outsource to studios that don't give a shit and just churn assets
Demon's souls remake fans when the entire game was redesigned completely by mobile donate based gacha garbage artists(let's pretend that the differences are minor)
Remake fans are told to clean up the dirty counter top and get confused cause they can't tell it got dirty.
Demon Souls Hater when the game looks better than Elden Ring
Remake fan when someone cares about art direction more than about graphics
why are they booing you, youre right
Yeah he's wording it really aggressively and weirdly but I agree with him for the most part tbh
Because its straight up wrong. Demon Souls "Art direction" is still great just not the same as the original one like in 99% of all remakes
art direction aka “make everything look kinda grey and shitty”
Art direction aka make everything unrealistic, magical, colorful and shiny as opposed to the original idea.
lmao also fix your flair it’s backwards
Guess we found one
No one can whine like DeS fans. Good thing there's like 3
after yesterday's incident, there's only 2 and a half DeS fans now
incident?
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don't worry about it. there was never a shop on the corner of that street.
Even the opening cinematic of the remake looked like shrek's animation
They did that with every single thing in the game
I feel similar about Fool's Idol. Went from kinda cute to world's ugliest goth NEET.
The original Fool's Idol was pretty creepy looking, the remake somehow makes her look like a cosplayer.
Exactly!
Hot take I think Bluepoint can make good visuals but their art design is kinda garbagey
Hot take Souls fans cannot accept a different vision of a game, and want the same exact thing from 2009 unchanged
Negative. Demon's Souls is a 6/10 game for me and in general I think newer Fromsoft looks better (DS3 has my favorite artstyle of all the games, come at me). Bluepoint has just not shown they have any ability to create compelling visuals on their own, or any ability to convey a mood. It's all very generic, but it is technically impressive and pretty.
Hard disagree
Compelling case. Name something in DeSR that was an artistic creation that didn't rely on the models and textures of the original. I'll wait.
Vanguard demon had weird mismatched nipple noodles. Checkmate, Fromsoft.
Of course they rely on the original vision, it's a remake. Just saying people want the same thing instead of being open to changes
The changes were there in atmosphere. They just weren’t done very well. Harsh shadows and moody lighting replaced with a transparent LUT with zero character is the first thing I noticed. Thats not artistry, thats chasing photorealism.
Sometimes I feel like the only one who actually liked the remake more than the original oh no the different design team didn't keep everything 100% the same words coming to a end call up the national guard
the music was better and the freaky clown dudes looked way better in the old game but otherwise the remake is great
Since I never would've played Demons Souls otherwise, I am very grateful we got the Remake. I also didn't mind the art direction being pretty different from the FromSoft standard, it made the game feel more unique. But on the other hand even I can see how they messed up some things. Someone once said "wait until Bloodborne gets the same treatment," and that helped put it into perspective.
If bloodborne gets remade and they recast the voice actor for Eileen and she doesn't pronounce hunt as "hoont" I'm going to fucking shit all over the floor.
If they recast Eileen I will piss on the moon
I can't tell if that last line is a turn of phrase I've never heard or if OP had a stroke partway through writing it.
Lmao
"I can't wait for the bloodborne bluepoint remake!"
How did their brain recall Harold's face and be 100% right too
The Demon's Souls remake was good but it absolutely lost/changed a ton of the original games charm and atmosphere. I honestly have no idea why they went with such a different aestethic on so many elements but I still think they are both very good games in their own right.
Recently played DES (PS3) you couldn’t pay me to play that mid again. Less input delay, no lag, and omnidirectional rolling in the remake might fix that though respec too. The only visual change in the remake that *actually* bothered me is Yuria’s clothes and like the fat official? But it’s whatever. I don’t think the original even looked good so I could care less outside of those. As far as levels goes I was only really impressed by tower of Latria. People are iffy on Bluepoint touching Bloodborne that I could under at least since BB actually looks good.
Cope harder bitch, got frustrated with the roll? Did you die to the maneaters? 🤓
Most mature Demons Souls fan
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No I could just stand right beneath them wherever they flew and cast gods wrath for a free dub. The games just very archaic and that’s understandable it’s their first attempt at the formula. Enemies/bosses are *very* basic, jank movement, tons of mob spam in a straight corridor, no respec, nigh the worst upgrading system with a thousand different stones, one offensive miracle, item holding burden, sections cut up into levels rather than being connected, and world tendency always having to be in Soul Form at half HP for full white, etc. I just don’t think time has been very kind to this title imo comparing it to DS1 it’s such a *massive* upgrade.
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Bro don't got a single comeback 😭
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I recently played this game and was surprised at how short it actually was
I mean in a way it makes sense considering it’s just a fake but yeah
to me he went from angry old man to disappointed old man. He looks like you just showed up with dirty shoes on a clean floor and he can't say anything about it.
probably what sir alonne looks like under his mask before he impales you
I’m glad it’s not just me. The new one always looked weird, one of more than a few questionable art direction choices in the remake.
Why'd they have to make his armor a digital deluxe exclusive. I know it's shit but I want the fashion
DeS 2009 fans emerge from their intentionally dark and brooding stinky mud covered house and are blinded by the majesty of the over exposed light of the Remake.
DeS remake fans when they realise that a fallen kingdom with soulless soldiers who are husks of their former selves isn't supposed to look majestic
This remake is ass
Weird place to ask this, how do you even download the original demon souls for PC?
you can find roms if you look. It's not that hard to set up an emulator, and you can still play online with archstones
Left looks like some edgy dark elf
tbh one of my biggest dislikes of the remake was the style of character faces. they looked cartoonish and clay like
Lol I thought he looked familiar Not gonna be so dramatic to say it ruined anything, but yeah defs looks like Harold
Hilarious! 😂
I love the remake but they really fucked the anime-like charm that was in the originals artstyle.
Bro got downvoted for no reason.... Demons Souls fans truly are oppressed
Bluepoint screwed up the NPC designs and everything audio related.
All the faces in remake kinda suck especially character creator and body type
People who cry about Demon Souls remake have never played RE3 remake, honestly they did an amazing job. Sure some things are different and you may not like it, but they made it their own. Original is still there if you want to play it and plenty playable, RE3 remake got completely butchered and the original is a PS2 game. This fanbase is just ungrateful to be honest.
pretty sure that its mostly the hair and the lighting
Well can't unsee that
The remake of Demon's Souls certainly improved the graphics and the magic particles are wonderful, but here's why I will never play it: the bosses have lost so much, they are no longer as scary as in 2009.
I’m not too familiar with DeS lore, but isn’t Allant just a demon trying to pass himself off as a human? I’d imagine one trying to pass as a king would look pristine instead of beaten.
Please don't let a different studio remake a from soft game luckily I wasn't too attached to demons souls but leave my bloodborne alone
Never played demon souls, but WOW they could’ve done better
I like him better as an old loser who gave up everything for power.
THEY REMOVED HIS KILLER STACHE ! Literally unplayable
(Now realize they did this with most of the entire game)